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[samrey4u]

is this system any good to pay for ? already in car but needs reactivating probs posted in wrong area sorry guys

[KillerWatt]

TomTom's can do the same as TM, but the TM system is quicker.


Edited by TheBoy

[samrey4u]

TomTom's can do the same as TM, but the TM system is quicker.

cheers thank you , how much is the subscription ?

[KillerWatt]

how much is the subscription ?

Subscription to what, TM or TomTom?

[samrey4u]

how much is the subscription ?

Subscription to what, TM or TomTom?

tm

[samrey4u]

Ah right, can't help you on that because I have never used it.
I'm quite happy with TomTom because the updates don't cost anything if you look in the right places

champion thanks again i will think about a tom tom once i have it no more paymnts etc

[TheBoy]

Thread pruned, as absolutely no discussion about copyright infringements etc.

[TheBoy]

Pretty certain TM is about £30 a year.

Its usefulness depends on where you drive. And remember, its a guide, not a definative source.

I have it, and would not be without it, but most of the time I ignore what it says.  Take going up to York last weekend - it was saying about numerous 30m delays, but a glance at map showed it would be better to sit in it.

[KillerWatt]

Thread pruned, as absolutely no discussion about copyright infringements etc.

Can I ask, since when is stating that TT software is all over the net been classified as "copyright infringement"?

Come to that, when did it become illegal to discuss copyright infringement?

I'd understand if links were being posted along with full blown tutorials, but clamping down on stating what people know already......jeez TB, not even Nu Labia are that anal.

[TheBoy]

Thread pruned, as absolutely no discussion about copyright infringements etc.

Can I ask, since when is stating that TT software is all over the net been classified as "copyright infringement"?

Come to that, when did it become illegal to discuss copyright infringement?

I'd understand if links were being posted along with full blown tutorials, but clamping down on stating what people know already......jeez TB, not even Nu Labia are that anal.

Who ever said discussing copyright infringement was illegal?

Pruned, as the implication was it was encouraging looking for a way around paying people for their product/service.

Where to draw the line is always going to be controversial, but OOF's Admin Team have clearly stated our line in the Forum Guidelines posted at the top of every board.

Hope that clarifies

[Lazydocker]

Thread pruned, as absolutely no discussion about copyright infringements etc.

Can I ask, since when is stating that TT software is all over the net been classified as "copyright infringement"?

Come to that, when did it become illegal to discuss copyright infringement?

I'd understand if links were being posted along with full blown tutorials, but clamping down on stating what people know already......jeez TB, not even Nu Labia are that anal.

Who ever said discussing copyright infringement was illegal?

Pruned, as the implication was it was encouraging looking for a way around paying people for their product/service.

Where to draw the line is always going to be controversial, but OOF's Admin Team have clearly stated our line in the Forum Guidelines posted at the top of every board.

Hope that clarifies

Yep... Most of us have inadvertently breached the rules... I personally think the Admin team have the right attitude in clamping down on any mention, that way they are free from any headaches and we can all enjoy OOF

TB, There's a bit in one of the posts containing Quoted text

[Lazydocker]

In answer to the question... TM Subscription was £30 last year and I find it both incredibly useful and very annoying!

They usefulness, as TB states, does rely on your intelligence too. Sometimes it'll tell you of a delay but it's just not worth the hassle of going round it! I find the best usage is to combine TM, a BBC Radio station with TP turned on (normally playing CDs instead of the Radio anyway when on a long run), and a telephone service, like 401100, combined give the best picture of what is happening

It's intensely annoying because it only give information for the next 10 miles, it only covers the Major road network (with blue camera's at the side of the road) and sometimes a transmission will get stuck and you'll get reported delays which aren't there. I had this a few weeks ago for 5 days, at all times of day and night!

In summary, I would say if you travel enough miles you will probably benefit from it... I know I have and I'm planning to renew it when it runs out

[nick v6]

i fitted tm in my mig
i had the box off ebay and there was still some subcripton left on it
yes it is annoying and sometimes uesfull
i don't use it enough to pay out £30 a year so i will be taking it out

[TheBoy]

In answer to the question... TM Subscription was £30 last year and I find it both incredibly useful and very annoying!

They usefulness, as TB states, does rely on your intelligence too. Sometimes it'll tell you of a delay but it's just not worth the hassle of going round it! I find the best usage is to combine TM, a BBC Radio station with TP turned on (normally playing CDs instead of the Radio anyway when on a long run), and a telephone service, like 401100, combined give the best picture of what is happening

It's intensely annoying because it only give information for the next 10 miles, it only covers the Major road network (with blue camera's at the side of the road) and sometimes a transmission will get stuck and you'll get reported delays which aren't there. I had this a few weeks ago for 5 days, at all times of day and night!

In summary, I would say if you travel enough miles you will probably benefit from it... I know I have and I'm planning to renew it when it runs out

The later types give a 'short range' (up to 10m/2jnc) and 'long range' (unclear how far

[Dave DND]

Thread pruned, as absolutely no discussion about copyright infringements etc.

Can I ask, since when is stating that TT software is all over the net been classified as "copyright infringement"?

Come to that, when did it become illegal to discuss copyright infringement?

I'd understand if links were being posted along with full blown tutorials, but clamping down on stating what people know already......jeez TB, not even Nu Labia are that anal.

Before accusing people of being Anal, please be aware of a few things

1) Just because its on the net does not mean that it is legitamately in the public domain. The  Intellectual property rights (especially in this instance) belong to a company who are very heavy handed when it comes to law enforcement.

2) As OOF is a registered and accountable organisation, it would be deemed liable to prosecution if it allowed its members to discuss any illegal activities within its open forum.

Bottom line - There are moderators here to ensure that the site runs smoothly, professionally and within the law, and as far as I am concerned, if a moderator ever says NO! - then that is not up for debate. They both run and own the forum that we are all enjoying, and we have to abide by their rules.