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Author Topic: The windscreen saga - New Poll!  (Read 8896 times)

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Re: The windscreen saga
« Reply #60 on: 13 February 2008, 20:00:42 »


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their workshop caught fire,the omega is now a burnt out shell,they have ordered every single component needed to build a new omega from the local vx stealer,and their team of highly skilled craftsmen are going to assemble the new car overnight and deliver it to your door at 8a.m tomorrow..........am i close? ;D

I was with you untill you got to the bit about highly skilled  :-/ ....... which is where all credibilty went out of the window. ;D   ;D
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« Reply #61 on: 13 February 2008, 20:01:07 »

On a slightly different note..........ive had both front windows replaced by RAC autoglass..........due to lowlifes.

Something i noticed a month or so ago........they've fitted ordinary glass to both sides.......should be thermal glass!!
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Re: The windscreen saga
« Reply #62 on: 13 February 2008, 20:02:33 »

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On a slightly different note..........ive had both front windows replaced by RAC autoglass..........due to lowlifes.

Something i noticed a month or so ago........they've fitted ordinary glass to both sides.......should be thermal glass!!

Take it back!!! You know you want to.  :y  :y
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Re: The windscreen saga
« Reply #63 on: 13 February 2008, 20:04:17 »

what is thermal glass and how do you spot the difference :-/
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Re: The windscreen saga
« Reply #64 on: 13 February 2008, 21:45:12 »

still waiting ;)
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Re: The windscreen saga
« Reply #65 on: 13 February 2008, 21:50:52 »

Right.......took it in, spoke to the person on reception, re-iterated the faults and that they had said they would be fitting a new screen (this had also been told to the customer services department and the depot manager on the phone!)

So, went to get it and asked if they found the problem.

Yes sir, 4 inches of sealant missing along the bottom.....(must have been fitted by Steve Wonder!).

OK, so went and checked it and the rubbers still do not seal against the body work and its the same bloody screen with the damage on it!

Pointed this out and was told, ow, thats just a defect in the laminate.....so we re-fitted the screen

I pointed out that its was not, its damage,  and that it would wick water up, freeze and fail again.......

So, they are doing it AGAIN next Wednesday but this time its at work and under my watchful eye!


The correct answer therefore was.....third time lucky!
« Last Edit: 13 February 2008, 21:56:17 by Mark »
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Re: The windscreen saga
« Reply #66 on: 13 February 2008, 21:53:42 »

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Re: The windscreen saga
« Reply #67 on: 13 February 2008, 21:58:02 »

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Right.......took it in, spoke to the person on reception, re-iterated the faults and that they had said they would be fitting a new screen (this had also been told to the customer services department and the depot manager on the phone!)

So, went to get it and asked if they found the problem.

Yes sir, 4 inches of sealant missing along the bottom.....(must have been fitted by Steve Wonder!).

OK, so went and checked it and the rubbers still do not seal against the body work and its the same bloody screen with the damage on it!

Pointed this out and was told, ow, thats just a defect in the laminate.....so we re-fitted the screen

I pointed out that its was not, its damage,  and that it would wick water up, freeze and fail again.......

So, they are doing it AGAIN next Wednesday but this time its at work and under my watchful eye!


The correct answer therefore was.....third time lucky!

this is a requirement..

but try to be patient if they make mistakes again..

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Re: The windscreen saga
« Reply #68 on: 13 February 2008, 22:00:13 »

If they make mistakes again I shall take the tools and do it myself!
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Re: The windscreen saga
« Reply #69 on: 13 February 2008, 22:02:27 »

will be better I think..But only when placing the window on fresh isolator, you will need another pair of hands..

and also when taking it out..
« Last Edit: 13 February 2008, 22:02:57 by cem_devecioglu »
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Re: The windscreen saga
« Reply #70 on: 13 February 2008, 22:05:29 »

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will be better I think..But only when placing the window on fresh isolator, you will need another pair of hands..

and also when taking it out..


I suspect one of the main causes is that they are not taking the time to remove the old sealent. Its critical on complex screens (and the Omega is a pretty complex shape).

We used to work at getting it to a max of 1mm before applying the new bonding (used to cut a V in the end of the nozel to get the right shape bead) to about 1/2 an inch thickness.

Then give it 10 mins to go off slightly (depends on the bonding you are using) before fitting the screen.

We used to use clamps in the corners to hold them down whilst it went off for 20 minutes!
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Re: The windscreen saga
« Reply #71 on: 13 February 2008, 22:09:34 »

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If they make mistakes again I shall take the tools and do it myself!
its not right tho is it
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Re: The windscreen saga
« Reply #72 on: 13 February 2008, 22:20:04 »

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So, they are doing it AGAIN next Wednesday but this time its at work and under my watchful eye!


The correct answer therefore was.....third time lucky!


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surely the correct answer should be ... HOPEFULLY third time lucky ....    the job is not yet done .......   :(
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Re: The windscreen saga
« Reply #73 on: 13 February 2008, 22:20:17 »

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will be better I think..But only when placing the window on fresh isolator, you will need another pair of hands..

and also when taking it out..


I suspect one of the main causes is that they are not taking the time to remove the old sealent. Its critical on complex screens (and the Omega is a pretty complex shape).

We used to work at getting it to a max of 1mm before applying the new bonding (used to cut a V in the end of the nozel to get the right shape bead) to about 1/2 an inch thickness.

Then give it 10 mins to go off slightly (depends on the bonding you are using) before fitting the screen.

We used to use clamps in the corners to hold them down whilst it went off for 20 minutes!

From the time I changed as far I can remember they work considerable amount of time when cleaning..What scared me was they use very sharp materials for cleaning near the paint..

And after when they placed the window they dont push with hands ..Only use slight taps with a plastic small hammer..

After they put bandage all around and let for a whole night..

I forgot to say they use vacuum holders when they are placing it..

the isolation material was black and used as a very thick layer..
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Re: The windscreen saga
« Reply #74 on: 13 February 2008, 22:23:20 »

Yes, vac holders for positioning and then clamps to hold it in whilst the bonding goes off.

The tool I have used for removing the sealent is a bit like a potato peeler so the blade never actualy makes contact with the paint....
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