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[zirk]

Makes a change to see Sony getting getting a good kicking, rather than the usual Dr Bose and His secret world of inventions.
 

[Dave DND]

Makes a change to see Sony getting getting a good kicking, rather than the usual Dr Bose and His secret world of inventions.

 


Many years ago, I used to operate a Sony Prestige service centre, the highest achivement level that could be attained, I built one of their Manufacturer demo cars, and I absolutely loved the stuff - In fact, back then, if you cut my arm off, my veins, like a stick of rock would probably have said Sony through them.

So it really goes against the grain for me to knock the brand, but the manufacturing quality and reliability standards nowadays are so very poor, that the product is not even close to what it once was. It really is truly awfull in my professional opinion.

Rumours are also still rife within the industry that Sony are actually going to be pulling out of car audio imminantly. Maybe they too have realised just how bad the stuff is.

 

[zirk]

Makes a change to see Sony getting getting a good kicking, rather than the usual Dr Bose and His secret world of inventions.

 


Many years ago, I used to operate a Sony Prestige service centre, the highest achivement level that could be attained, I built one of their Manufacturer demo cars, and I absolutely loved the stuff - In fact, back then, if you cut my arm off, my veins, like a stick of rock would probably have said Sony through them.

So it really goes against the grain for me to knock the brand, but the manufacturing quality and reliability standards nowadays are so very poor, that the product is not even close to what it once was. It really is truly awfull in my professional opinion.

Rumours are also still rife within the industry that Sony are actually going to be pulling out of car audio imminantly. Maybe they too have realised just how bad the stuff is.

 

Well I wasn't going to say anything, but glad you said that as when I acquired my Cossie many moons ago it came with a Sony HU, Sony Amp and some JBL's (No Subs) and I have to admit it sounded remarkably clean, so yea, very surprised they've gone down hill so much these days.

Maybe they should stick to making gadgets for the Bond Movies. 

[Marks DTM Calib]

As for using household speakers, they are far from ideal.

Car audio speakers have a suspension setup with much less compliance so as minimise vibration effects (from the engine, drive train, road surface etc) and microphony.

Dave, what amps IC's are Sony using these days?. The last ones I saw (a fair few years ago!) where Philips TDA1554 jobs and variants there of in bridge mode. I recall they were horrible class B things with pretty poor cross over distortion.

Are there any digital amps about now?

[Dave DND]

most of the Sony`s still seem to be using poor quailty TDA7xxx amps, or cheapie variations thereof, and a pre amp stage designed by Mr M.Mouse.

Not seen any true Digital devices in car audio as yet, although I think that some of the really high end stuff have "dabbled" but not sure if it made it to production models - I`m thinking early variants of Alpine F-1 and Mackintosh - but the stuff is so rare that I just don`t get to play with them, and certainly not inside when I do.

[Lampynoiseboy]

Makes a change to see Sony getting getting a good kicking, rather than the usual Dr Bose and His secret world of inventions.

 


Many years ago, I used to operate a Sony Prestige service centre, the highest achivement level that could be attained, I built one of their Manufacturer demo cars, and I absolutely loved the stuff - In fact, back then, if you cut my arm off, my veins, like a stick of rock would probably have said Sony through them.

So it really goes against the grain for me to knock the brand, but the manufacturing quality and reliability standards nowadays are so very poor, that the product is not even close to what it once was. It really is truly awfull in my professional opinion.

Rumours are also still rife within the industry that Sony are actually going to be pulling out of car audio imminantly. Maybe they too have realised just how bad the stuff is.

 

Well I wasn't going to say anything, but glad you said that as when I acquired my Cossie many moons ago it came with a Sony HU, Sony Amp and some JBL's (No Subs) and I have to admit it sounded remarkably clean, so yea, very surprised they've gone down hill so much these days.

Maybe they should stick to making gadgets for the Bond Movies. 

And some internals for Iphones..... I see a pattern emerging!

[Martian]

Maybe they should stick to making gadgets for the Bond Movies. 

Ironically they do make some decent handsets. I had a C902 Titanium (Quantum Of Solace) and that was rock solid, but they do seem to be dragging their backsides on the Smartphone front where (official) firmware updates are concerned.

[Martin_1962]

Makes a change to see Sony getting getting a good kicking, rather than the usual Dr Bose and His secret world of inventions.

 


Many years ago, I used to operate a Sony Prestige service centre, the highest achivement level that could be attained, I built one of their Manufacturer demo cars, and I absolutely loved the stuff - In fact, back then, if you cut my arm off, my veins, like a stick of rock would probably have said Sony through them.

So it really goes against the grain for me to knock the brand, but the manufacturing quality and reliability standards nowadays are so very poor, that the product is not even close to what it once was. It really is truly awfull in my professional opinion.

Rumours are also still rife within the industry that Sony are actually going to be pulling out of car audio imminantly. Maybe they too have realised just how bad the stuff is.

 

I have a MDX5970 (I think that is right oldish MD head unit) is that one of the quality units?

Also the Xplod stuff - is that the cheapy junk?

[Dave DND]

In my opinion, the Sony stuff peaked around the late nineties to the turn of the millenium - and I`d say from 2002 onwards went downhill fast.

Ironic that they launched a product called Xplod, as many of them started to  !! Those that stayed running long enough that is !

 

[Martin_1962]

In my opinion, the Sony stuff peaked around the late nineties to the turn of the millenium - and I`d say from 2002 onwards went downhill fast.

Ironic that they launched a product called Xplod, as many of them started to  !! Those that stayed running long enough that is !

 

1999 model then.

So in that period.

And yes a Sony Centre moaned at me for being disparaging about Xplod

[Lampynoiseboy]

In my opinion, the Sony stuff peaked around the late nineties to the turn of the millenium - and I`d say from 2002 onwards went downhill fast.

Ironic that they launched a product called Xplod, as many of them started to  !! Those that stayed running long enough that is !

 

With the exception of Bravia Tv's, I think that applies to everything they make- not just ICE

[Dave DND]

With the exception of Bravia Tv's, I think that applies to everything they make- not just ICE

I`m not sure that Bravia TV`s can be attributed to them, I had a feeling that the good ones used the screens from the LG factory, albeit under a licensed name ?

[fiend61]

I had a feeling that the good ones used the screens from the LG factory

yup LG and samsung 

[Lampynoiseboy]

I had a feeling that the good ones used the screens from the LG factory

yup LG and samsung 

iirc, there's only about 5 companies in the world make plasma screens, although the quality obviously varies by cost and end manufacturer

Much like only 2 people in the uk make baked beans (Heinz & HP), however the recipe/cost/taste is vastly different between happy shopper & Tesco finest!!

[tidla]

As for using household speakers, they are far from ideal.

Car audio speakers have a suspension setup with much less compliance so as minimise vibration effects (from the engine, drive train, road surface etc) and microphony.

Dave, what amps IC's are Sony using these days?. The last ones I saw (a fair few years ago!) where Philips TDA1554 jobs and variants there of in bridge mode. I recall they were horrible class B things with pretty poor cross over distortion.

Are there any digital amps about now?

i can vouch for that.

many moons ago a mate had them on the back shelf of his chevette.

i still have the lump on the back of my head..