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Re: Why does Jaime have Tech 2?
« Reply #45 on: 13 October 2006, 12:17:19 »

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And the crap sub has no remote switch on, so though I can use remote to turn amp/tuner on, I have to get up to turn sub on. Very weak design/bundle.

Maybe I have a later model....my Sony sub has auto mode on it......goes into power saving mode when not in use and auto turns back on when it detects a signal

My amp is a DB940.....paid about £800 for that
And about £800 for SA-WMS7 (sub) with SS-MS7 (speakers)

I got em of Richer Sounds....the Sony centre wanted £2k for the same package.

Dont know how they rate in the world of home cinema stuff  :-/

And dont often use it......too worried about peeing the neighbours off esp with the sub, it makes the floor vibrate!!
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Re: Why does Jaime have Tech 2?
« Reply #46 on: 13 October 2006, 12:25:06 »

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Unlike Sony who lately have made cheap stuff really expensive ;)


They have just screwed up - trying to take on the budget brands - their cheap stuff is no better than other peoples stuff, trying to compete on price was a mistake, your TV was an example, the slightly older more basic TaxiDriver one is better made but less featured, mine is slightly newer than TDs but older than yours and is a 50Hz which was slightly more expensive than a lot of 100Hz other brand TVs. Mine has been problem free after the DVB-T tuner was updated. OK it was £200 more due to being integrated digital but try buying a digital TV tuner 7 years ago - you couldn't

From what I can remember the FQ75 & 80 models were an issue and I think  similar issues also affected the same era IDTVs but not to same scope.

Wegas, the earliest (FD1), first reasonable price, (FX60, FX20, DX20, DS60), all 50Hz (FX20, DX20, 30, 40 ect ect), all later Wegas have been excellent TVs. All the problem ones were early DRC-MF

Expensive Sony stuff has always been good, notably their projectors, and their video cameras are still top class.

If your TV had been £100 more all spent on slightly better components you would have had no problems, but would you have bought it at that price?

That said I found a 20 year old CD player in the garage which still works.

I know you like winding me up, but some of your Sony kit was not even Sony! A lot of Sony kit is Samsung (some VCRs, some basic DVD all in ones) or Hitachi (some VCRs). Basically Sony themselves have not made a Vhs VCR.

TBH I would not buy anything else (consumer electronics wise) other than Sony, but I speak from experience of their older offerings.

They haven't been without their problems, early Trinitron Widescreens suffered from either LOPT or chopper Transformer failures, which could render a seven year old set scrap. Early 90's Hi Black Trinitron tubes were not setup properly at the factory, so you either had perfect focus, or it'd take an age to setup. My parents recently upgraded to a 5 yr old 28 inch flat trinitron widescreen and it's perfect, their 1993 KVX2162U CRT was still going, but the tube suffered the poor focusing issues that affected Sony back then.

Personally I have a lot of Sony equipment from the 1980's, which, IMHO was the best era for Consumer electronic quality. I have a 1985 KV21XRTU stereo Sony TV that still produces a crisp, sharp picture and works reliably, I also have a 1988 27 inch trinitron set, one of the first Nicam sets, which is our main TV, and this is excellent quality and very well built.

Plus around 7 betamax VCR's and a Sony BMC200 Beta camcorder. (if anyone has an SLHF950UB or an SLC9UB they want rid of for a reasonable price, PM me)

Problem is, Sony learnt from the Betamax thrashing in this country (last US NTSC beta machine was built in 2002), that they needed to produce items more cheaply, this showed in the early 90's with the Bridgend tube debacle, the power failures of the early widescreens and a slight drop in quality now.

James.
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Re: Why does Jaime have Tech 2?
« Reply #47 on: 13 October 2006, 13:42:52 »

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And the crap sub has no remote switch on, so though I can use remote to turn amp/tuner on, I have to get up to turn sub on. Very weak design/bundle.

Maybe I have a later model....my Sony sub has auto mode on it......goes into power saving mode when not in use and auto turns back on when it detects a signal

My amp is a DB940.....paid about £800 for that
And about £800 for SA-WMS7 (sub) with SS-MS7 (speakers)

I got em of Richer Sounds....the Sony centre wanted £2k for the same package.

Dont know how they rate in the world of home cinema stuff  :-/

And dont often use it......too worried about peeing the neighbours off esp with the sub, it makes the floor vibrate!!


STR-DB940 - that is pretty good, cost around £400 when new, I have the predecessor - the 930

Speakers - possibly mid range - I don't know
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Re: Why does Jaime have Tech 2?
« Reply #48 on: 13 October 2006, 13:48:28 »

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Unlike Sony who lately have made cheap stuff really expensive ;)


They have just screwed up - trying to take on the budget brands - their cheap stuff is no better than other peoples stuff, trying to compete on price was a mistake, your TV was an example, the slightly older more basic TaxiDriver one is better made but less featured, mine is slightly newer than TDs but older than yours and is a 50Hz which was slightly more expensive than a lot of 100Hz other brand TVs. Mine has been problem free after the DVB-T tuner was updated. OK it was £200 more due to being integrated digital but try buying a digital TV tuner 7 years ago - you couldn't

From what I can remember the FQ75 & 80 models were an issue and I think  similar issues also affected the same era IDTVs but not to same scope.

Wegas, the earliest (FD1), first reasonable price, (FX60, FX20, DX20, DS60), all 50Hz (FX20, DX20, 30, 40 ect ect), all later Wegas have been excellent TVs. All the problem ones were early DRC-MF

Expensive Sony stuff has always been good, notably their projectors, and their video cameras are still top class.

If your TV had been £100 more all spent on slightly better components you would have had no problems, but would you have bought it at that price?

That said I found a 20 year old CD player in the garage which still works.

I know you like winding me up, but some of your Sony kit was not even Sony! A lot of Sony kit is Samsung (some VCRs, some basic DVD all in ones) or Hitachi (some VCRs). Basically Sony themselves have not made a Vhs VCR.

TBH I would not buy anything else (consumer electronics wise) other than Sony, but I speak from experience of their older offerings.

They haven't been without their problems, early Trinitron Widescreens suffered from either LOPT or chopper Transformer failures, which could render a seven year old set scrap. Early 90's Hi Black Trinitron tubes were not setup properly at the factory, so you either had perfect focus, or it'd take an age to setup. My parents recently upgraded to a 5 yr old 28 inch flat trinitron widescreen and it's perfect, their 1993 KVX2162U CRT was still going, but the tube suffered the poor focusing issues that affected Sony back then.

Personally I have a lot of Sony equipment from the 1980's, which, IMHO was the best era for Consumer electronic quality. I have a 1985 KV21XRTU stereo Sony TV that still produces a crisp, sharp picture and works reliably, I also have a 1988 27 inch trinitron set, one of the first Nicam sets, which is our main TV, and this is excellent quality and very well built.

Plus around 7 betamax VCR's and a Sony BMC200 Beta camcorder. (if anyone has an SLHF950UB or an SLC9UB they want rid of for a reasonable price, PM me)

Problem is, Sony learnt from the Betamax thrashing in this country (last US NTSC beta machine was built in 2002), that they needed to produce items more cheaply, this showed in the early 90's with the Bridgend tube debacle, the power failures of the early widescreens and a slight drop in quality now.

James.

My 22 year old portable still works but never gets used, But my main TV is Sony - a 50Hz 32" IDTV, the amp is Sony (an award winner), my Vcrs (working 3 Sony 1 Sanyo), video camera old HVC400P and new TRV33, MD recorder, MD Walkman, my wifes digital camera, my turntable, my bedroom DVD player (worn out but works occasionally).

I record TV onto a Pace Twin PVR now, I rarely use a VCR, especially on one of them (the Sanyo) the heads were replace about 8 years ago with the penultimate set.

Now to upset you!

[size=36]I OWN A SL-HF950[/size]
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Re: Why does Jaime have Tech 2?
« Reply #49 on: 13 October 2006, 16:51:54 »

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Unlike Sony who lately have made cheap stuff really expensive ;)


They have just screwed up - trying to take on the budget brands - their cheap stuff is no better than other peoples stuff, trying to compete on price was a mistake, your TV was an example, the slightly older more basic TaxiDriver one is better made but less featured, mine is slightly newer than TDs but older than yours and is a 50Hz which was slightly more expensive than a lot of 100Hz other brand TVs. Mine has been problem free after the DVB-T tuner was updated. OK it was £200 more due to being integrated digital but try buying a digital TV tuner 7 years ago - you couldn't

From what I can remember the FQ75 & 80 models were an issue and I think  similar issues also affected the same era IDTVs but not to same scope.

Wegas, the earliest (FD1), first reasonable price, (FX60, FX20, DX20, DS60), all 50Hz (FX20, DX20, 30, 40 ect ect), all later Wegas have been excellent TVs. All the problem ones were early DRC-MF

Expensive Sony stuff has always been good, notably their projectors, and their video cameras are still top class.

If your TV had been £100 more all spent on slightly better components you would have had no problems, but would you have bought it at that price?

That said I found a 20 year old CD player in the garage which still works.

I know you like winding me up, but some of your Sony kit was not even Sony! A lot of Sony kit is Samsung (some VCRs, some basic DVD all in ones) or Hitachi (some VCRs). Basically Sony themselves have not made a Vhs VCR.

TBH I would not buy anything else (consumer electronics wise) other than Sony, but I speak from experience of their older offerings.

They haven't been without their problems, early Trinitron Widescreens suffered from either LOPT or chopper Transformer failures, which could render a seven year old set scrap. Early 90's Hi Black Trinitron tubes were not setup properly at the factory, so you either had perfect focus, or it'd take an age to setup. My parents recently upgraded to a 5 yr old 28 inch flat trinitron widescreen and it's perfect, their 1993 KVX2162U CRT was still going, but the tube suffered the poor focusing issues that affected Sony back then.

Personally I have a lot of Sony equipment from the 1980's, which, IMHO was the best era for Consumer electronic quality. I have a 1985 KV21XRTU stereo Sony TV that still produces a crisp, sharp picture and works reliably, I also have a 1988 27 inch trinitron set, one of the first Nicam sets, which is our main TV, and this is excellent quality and very well built.

Plus around 7 betamax VCR's and a Sony BMC200 Beta camcorder. (if anyone has an SLHF950UB or an SLC9UB they want rid of for a reasonable price, PM me)

Problem is, Sony learnt from the Betamax thrashing in this country (last US NTSC beta machine was built in 2002), that they needed to produce items more cheaply, this showed in the early 90's with the Bridgend tube debacle, the power failures of the early widescreens and a slight drop in quality now.

James.

My 22 year old portable still works but never gets used, But my main TV is Sony - a 50Hz 32" IDTV, the amp is Sony (an award winner), my Vcrs (working 3 Sony 1 Sanyo), video camera old HVC400P and new TRV33, MD recorder, MD Walkman, my wifes digital camera, my turntable, my bedroom DVD player (worn out but works occasionally).

I record TV onto a Pace Twin PVR now, I rarely use a VCR, especially on one of them (the Sanyo) the heads were replace about 8 years ago with the penultimate set.

Now to upset you!

[size=36]I OWN A SL-HF950[/size]

Damn you and your SL-HF950 ownership :).

I have....

1x Sanyo VTC NX10
1x Sanyo VTC5000 (doesn't everyone!!)
2x Sony SL C5 UB
1x Sony SL C7
1x Sanyo VTC 6500
2x Sony SLF1UB TTF1 UB and a HVC3000 camera, external charger and two batteries for the F1
1x Sony BMC200 Betamax Camcorder
1x Sony KV21 XRTU
1x Sony KV27 something somthing, has an early AE1 chassis apparently (that is sad!)

Amps, either a Heathkit S88A stereo intergrated Valve Amplifier from 1968 or a Denon.

Turntable, Sony PV21 with PLL timing
Tape decks, Aiwa AD6500 (complies to DIN 45500 or HiFi, circa June 1976) and a Marantz of some sort...
Speakers, a pair of B&O S45's I think......

A running theme of Sony gear!! would like a U-Matic Hi band machine, and an SLHF950 or a C9 and a B&O beogram 4000 with linear arm stylus, just cause they look cool, ohh and a Rogers Cadet 3 or a pair of Quad valve monoblocks....

James
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Martin_1962

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Re: Why does Jaime have Tech 2?
« Reply #50 on: 13 October 2006, 20:07:47 »

This is war ;D

My Beta VCRs

Sony SL-HF950 of course - the ultimate deck (mine has NICAM)
Sony SL-HF100P duplicator
Sanyo VTC-M40 HiFi
Sony SL-F1UB Working
Sony SL-F1UB broken

Sanyo NX100 free with 100 and broken

Sold Sanyo VTC6500
Scrapped Sony C6

Non Beta
Some Sony branded Vhs crap I was given which doesn't work

Sold a Philips N1502 with broken heads

Sony Kit
DC-TRV33 - video camera
KV32DX20U - Wega IDTV
KV1430UB - my first TV
STR-DB930 - AV receiver

Minidisc recorder, Walkman, Head Unit, CD Changer

Stored or out of use
DVP-S715 - first DVD
Most of a midi system my dad used to have CDP30 CD player not in use but turntable on my AV rack

I have a Pioneer play anything DVD player, and DVD burner
Pace Twin PVR
Relisys RLT1730 - bedroom with Pace DTVA, holiday with Twin
Castle HiFi speakers

I have the slightly useless ONdigital CAM and two cards

Oh and a burglar alarm
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Re: Why does Jaime have Tech 2?
« Reply #51 on: 13 October 2006, 20:08:52 »

Oh forgot the HVC4000P camera MD is MD-JE330 and MD 5970
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Re: Why does Jaime have Tech 2?
« Reply #52 on: 13 October 2006, 20:29:20 »

Hello,

That's an impressive range of Taunt ware :).

The M40 is another deck I'd like, but I am not as keen on Sanyos Beta offerings, they seemed to take their own approach to the standard, their machines also have a slightly cheaper feel, though the 6500 is okay if a little brash looking.

I found that Sanyo Beta machines had a problem copying Macrovision protected VHS tapes to Betamax, on Sony and toshiba decks, the AGC would wipe out the macrovision signal, thus allowing you to 'back up' Macrovision protected VHS cassettes to Betamax......apparently.

The duplicator sounds a nice bit of kit....

Another weird item I have in my collection is this Sony device that takes photo negatives and basically turns them into a video signal that is then recorded onto a betamax cassette, allowing you to put your photo collection onto Betamax. A very primative Video CD if you will.

I have a waterproof back and strap for my F1 so I can take it out and about if I so desired.

Tape collection wise, I've got around 3-400 cassettes with varying films including Star Wars on Betamax, and a cased copy of Back To the Future :).

I sometimes think about selling my whole collection, but probably never will as I found the whole format facinating. It's suprising how much of a following Betamax has, 950's sometimes pop up on ebay, and you won't get much change from £250. As I keep saying, their the modern, valueable antique.

James
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« Reply #53 on: 13 October 2006, 20:47:39 »

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Oh and a burglar alarm

Ohhh i have one of those too.....when shes not snoozing  ;D
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Martin_1962

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« Reply #54 on: 13 October 2006, 21:13:21 »

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Hello,

That's an impressive range of Taunt ware :).

The M40 is another deck I'd like, but I am not as keen on Sanyos Beta offerings, they seemed to take their own approach to the standard, their machines also have a slightly cheaper feel, though the 6500 is okay if a little brash looking.

I found that Sanyo Beta machines had a problem copying Macrovision protected VHS tapes to Betamax, on Sony and toshiba decks, the AGC would wipe out the macrovision signal, thus allowing you to 'back up' Macrovision protected VHS cassettes to Betamax......apparently.

The duplicator sounds a nice bit of kit....

Another weird item I have in my collection is this Sony device that takes photo negatives and basically turns them into a video signal that is then recorded onto a betamax cassette, allowing you to put your photo collection onto Betamax. A very primative Video CD if you will.

I have a waterproof back and strap for my F1 so I can take it out and about if I so desired.

Tape collection wise, I've got around 3-400 cassettes with varying films including Star Wars on Betamax, and a cased copy of Back To the Future :).

I sometimes think about selling my whole collection, but probably never will as I found the whole format facinating. It's suprising how much of a following Betamax has, 950's sometimes pop up on ebay, and you won't get much change from £250. As I keep saying, their the modern, valueable antique.

James


Oooh the duplicator needs servicing - plays a bit wobbly

The M40 handles Macraprovision quite well, one on Ebay hit £400

Got around 300 cassettes - quite a few railway videos - all backed up now to DVD

I've got the slide/negative adaptor - uses the HVC400P
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« Reply #55 on: 13 October 2006, 21:19:20 »

The 6500 sale was a bit of a mistake, I got carried away on Ebay.

The controls were all split and the clock had failed.

Not a bad VCR at all but mine was near end of life.

Never had a 5000 - they are a bit naff.

950 - built like a brick outhouse proper Sony quality.

The Beta HiFi demo is what kicked off my interest in Home Cinema. Bob Monkhouse used to own SL-F1s, and I also met the person who sold him a 950. I have also met someone who sold Prince Charles a very large screen 4x3 Sony (pre widescreen).

I ran the M40 as everyday VCR until I got the PVR - avoided Vsh as much as possible
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« Reply #56 on: 13 October 2006, 21:41:46 »

I should say I used to only buy Sony (hence why I bought that crap telly) - in the same way some drivers will only consider BMW.  Then, after the sagas with some Sony stuff I bought 4 or 5 years ago, I saw the light....
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« Reply #57 on: 13 October 2006, 21:42:50 »

I should add that I am surprised I have a Tech2 - its made by Hewlett Packard, another company that seemed to lose its way a bit around 4 or 5 yrs ago...
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« Reply #58 on: 13 October 2006, 23:25:25 »

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I should add that I am surprised I have a Tech2 - its made by Hewlett Packard, another company that seemed to lose its way a bit around 4 or 5 yrs ago...

Remeber the Laserjet III?
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« Reply #59 on: 13 October 2006, 23:27:29 »

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I should add that I am surprised I have a Tech2 - its made by Hewlett Packard, another company that seemed to lose its way a bit around 4 or 5 yrs ago...
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