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Welfare Cap
« on: 21 January 2012, 20:18:15 »

The Government is currently passing a new bill on welfare through Parliament at the moment, part of this is to limit all welfare payments to a maximum of £26,000pa.  :y

Ian Duncan-Smith admins there are a number of benefit claimants with large families, especially in London, who get more than £100,000pa. He say the new measures will be liberating for them as they can now get an average wage job, without a big decrease in benefits, which is trapping them from doing this.

This I think is a reasonable comment and it shows how far our benefits system is devoid from the realities of the average hard working family.  >:( >:( >:( >:(

But then you get that left wing Limpdem tw*t Simon Hughes, who's comment "We cannot allow families to be unjustifiably and retrospectively penalised and left with not enough money to stay in their homes and be literally forced onto the street".

So it's alright then that families that have been pushed over the financial edge, due to NIC, VAT and council tax rises and had their houses repossessed and are out on the street, as long as they should continue to be good tax payers and fund the £100,000+ benefit claimants.  >:( >:( >:( >:(

With tw*ts like him and all the other do gooders in Parliament, you can see why welfare is where it is, and is by far the Governments biggest bill. That's why for the average earning taxpayer in this country are typically paying 45-50% of what their economic activity earns in taxes and suffering as a consequence.  >:( >:( >:(
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Re: Welfare Cap
« Reply #1 on: 21 January 2012, 20:21:44 »

Agreed. Paying people who are fit to work more than they are worth in the job market is nonsensical.
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Re: Welfare Cap
« Reply #2 on: 21 January 2012, 20:48:44 »

£26,000 is much too high imo.to take that home in earnings from a job you would need to be earning approx. £40,000 p.a. ffs !
I believe average earnings are around £26,000 before deductions. ::)
As for paying families in London £100,000 p.a. in benifits - its rather obscene. >:( >:(
If they cant afford to live there and keep their own kids,thay should move somewhere else and stop having kids.
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Re: Welfare Cap
« Reply #3 on: 21 January 2012, 20:55:10 »

£26,000 is much too high imo.to take that home in earnings from a job you would need to be earning approx. £40,000 p.a. ffs !
I believe average earnings are around £26,000 before deductions. ::)
As for paying families in London £100,000 p.a. in benifits - its rather obscene. >:( >:(
If they cant afford to live there and keep their own kids,thay should move somewhere else and stop having kids.

Totally agree Albs........ >:( >:(
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Re: Welfare Cap
« Reply #4 on: 21 January 2012, 21:04:59 »

My x needs to clear 32k to equal her benefits.
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Re: Welfare Cap
« Reply #5 on: 21 January 2012, 21:22:01 »

 >:( >:(where they get there £26000 from ive no ideaq i have been on benefits for 3 yrs now due to total nerve failure in all my body & ck5 kiddney failure i cant work due to these diseases though i want toim in a wheelchair with no feeling an where and on dyalisis 3 times aweek  i get including rent & dla £9000 ayear so i would like to know how they do it
sorry for rant but sombody is fiddling somwhere
   ozzycat >:( >:( >:(
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Re: Welfare Cap
« Reply #6 on: 21 January 2012, 21:37:53 »

Approx 12yrs ago my next door neighbour got caught claiming as a single parent with 2 kids. it was 55k she claimed in all. during her case they told her to stop claiming or she faces prosecution. that was the end of it. she cancelled her claim. didn't have to pay a penny back.   >:( >:(
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« Reply #7 on: 21 January 2012, 21:40:51 »

When you do your self assessment at the end of the tax yr. 1 of the questions is "Are you party to any tax avoidance schemes"  i wonder how many people say yes.
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« Reply #8 on: 21 January 2012, 22:33:06 »

>:( >:(where they get there £26000 from ive no ideaq i have been on benefits for 3 yrs now due to total nerve failure in all my body & ck5 kiddney failure i cant work due to these diseases though i want toim in a wheelchair with no feeling an where and on dyalisis 3 times aweek  i get including rent & dla £9000 ayear so i would like to know how they do it
sorry for rant but sombody is fiddling somwhere
   ozzycat >:( >:( >:(

I think the higher figures will be for people who have (or claim to have) quite a few children. I read recently about an interpreter who quit her job because legal advisers on being told by claimants that they had two children were advising them to claim they had 6 children as it would make a huge diffeence to their benefits.She had to interpret this and wasnt allowed to blow the whistle as she was bound by client confidentiality.
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Re: Welfare Cap
« Reply #9 on: 21 January 2012, 22:34:31 »

>:( >:(where they get there £26000 from ive no ideaq i have been on benefits for 3 yrs now due to total nerve failure in all my body & ck5 kiddney failure i cant work due to these diseases though i want toim in a wheelchair with no feeling an where and on dyalisis 3 times aweek  i get including rent & dla £9000 ayear so i would like to know how they do it
sorry for rant but sombody is fiddling somwhere
   ozzycat >:( >:( >:(

It's when kids come into it that the benefits seems to go through the roof. Also don't forget, these figures include the raft of other things people are automatically 'entitled' to when on certain benefots like free prescriptions, free school meals, free dental care, the list goes on, and the fact that they don't pay tax.
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Re: Welfare Cap
« Reply #10 on: 21 January 2012, 22:39:00 »

I can't see any end to it though, the attitude of labour and lib dems is inconceivable, and the tories aren't a real tory party. No-one will dare chmake the drastic changes needed for fear of losing votes as the 'benefits' culture is so widespread. People who earn just shy of 30k get chid benefit for flip sake! Surely if you earn that much you don't need it, and it's your responsibility to pay for your offspring not the state.
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Re: Welfare Cap
« Reply #11 on: 21 January 2012, 23:24:41 »

 :y :y all true i just wish that i was healthy again so i could do my duty and provide for my wife and kids like im suposed to do
i dont like claiming the benefits i get but i have no chiose mabee one day they will find somthing to help me and i bcan go back to doing what i feel i should be doing that suporting my family instead of them caring for me
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« Reply #12 on: 21 January 2012, 23:27:36 »

Nothing wrong in recieving benefits when your genuinely ill mate. Its those ***** who are playing the system who I cant stand. :y
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« Reply #13 on: 21 January 2012, 23:46:07 »

I can't see any end to it though, the attitude of labour and lib dems is inconceivable, and the tories aren't a real tory party. No-one will dare chmake the drastic changes needed for fear of losing votes as the 'benefits' culture is so widespread. People who earn just shy of 30k get chid benefit for flip sake! Surely if you earn that much you don't need it, and it's your responsibility to pay for your offspring not the state.

Not living in UK. maybe I am out of touch, but I gotta say that 30k doesn't sound like a huge salary, especially in the South. Not that I am advocating giving tens of thousands out to one family each year, whilst the potential earner does sweet F.A.
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« Reply #14 on: 21 January 2012, 23:46:57 »

... and yes benefits should be capped, whether this loses votes or not.
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