Before this weeks stupidity I actually thought OOF had "grown up" and was a nicer place to be, there was "less" agro and pointless posts.. and an awful lot less "ego masaging" but it looks like that is all returning.
Personally, what some folks seem to think is "banter" is actually just plain rudeness, after 38 years in the military I KNOW what banter is .. and a "masked swear word off" is not banter in any way, shape, or form.
One of the reasons, quite simply, that OOF will never return to what it was 5 years ago, is the price of the cars.
Now this will probably offend someone, but it is my view.
When the cars were £8000 (as mine when I bought it 4 years ago) there was never any discussion about "chaving them up", or scrapping because a cam sensor had gone.... the members did everything to keep the cars on the road, and - to be perfectly honest - the members were of a "type" that, whilst not throwing money away, never did things "on the cheap".
It is now almost cheaper to buy one than to do a full service, brakes and a set of tyres... so a different "type" of person is buying them, joining the forum, and taking part in Gen Dis.... a KOS (military term) like me will never have the same viewpoint as a 20 year old .... in politics, interests, music, humour, and most importantly, how to converse with others.
What I think rude and objectionable is, to others, normal and acceptable, it is called change.... and it happens all the time... and is unstoppable.... probably IMHO unfortunately ..
Forums don't make people .. people make forums ... and the people will decide what they want, simply by either staying if they agree, or leaving if they don't. ... and the rules won't change that ... just look how many of OOF's present, very simple, rules are ignored .... by most ..