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Omega General Help / Re: Iv fooked it i think

« on: 25 February 2017, 18:16:21 »

Belt a tooth off at the top, remove it, position and retension it correctly.

This were the marks after we turned it by hand

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Omega General Help / Re: Iv fooked it i think

« on: 25 February 2017, 17:20:05 »

Belt a tooth off at the top, remove it, position and retension it correctly.

Both marks lined up though is it ok to run

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General Car Chat / Re: So what have you done to your car today?

« on: 25 February 2017, 16:34:20 »

Successfully managed to get her up and runnin after the issue with the timing/belt am now very sore

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Omega General Help / Re: Iv fooked it i think

« on: 25 February 2017, 16:26:36 »

Done more of these cambelts and top end v6 rebuilds than I care to remember - I will gladly take a trip over for the cost of fuel and a small contribution to my "fix the beemer" fund

JamesV6CDX I very much appreciate it it is now running after a mate of mine come over and give me a hand it was 180* out timing wise so started from scratch and although its running the best way i can discribe is it sounds like a diesel with the belt vibrating on top between the cams but is taught everywhere else  any ideas

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Omega General Help / Re: Iv fooked it i think

« on: 24 February 2017, 22:39:48 »

I was going to try to post up a how to but thought this link would offer better guidance. It might not be the correct engine code so you will have to take note of your cam markings and alignment marks but the principle is the same.
If you are re-timing it, be VERY careful when repositioning the crank as this is where you can cause damage. DO NOT force anything in to position.
If you have less idlers than the example shown, the principle is still the same regarding the timing marks.

http://replace-timing-belt.com/how-to-replace-timing-belt-on-vauxhallopel-frontera-b-2-2i/

Good luck. 

Thank you EVERYONE i managed to get myself a copy of autodata this evening and this has given me the exact same info so plan is

1) Restart by removing Belt
2) manually time engine up to TDC
3) Follow above instructions/autodata to the t again
4) Hope and pray once reassembled

Wish me Luck 

Let's start simply

Set the crank to 90 degrees before or after TDC, then set the cams and lock them. Then set the crank to TDC and fit the cambelt

Follow Mark's advice above regarding setting the crank to a safe position first though. 

I was editing to say that but i will let you know how it goes

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Omega General Help / Re: Iv fooked it i think

« on: 24 February 2017, 22:24:25 »

Thank you EVERYONE for your help i have managed to get myself a copy of autodata this evening and this has given me the exact same info so plan is

1) Restart by removing Belt

2) manually time engine up to TDC as per

Let's start simply

Set the crank to 90 degrees before or after TDC, then set the cams and lock them. Then set the crank to TDC and fit the cambelt

3) Follow instructions/autodata to the t again

I was going to try to post up a how to but thought this link would offer better guidance. It might not be the correct engine code so you will have to take note of your cam markings and alignment marks but the principle is the same.
If you are re-timing it, be VERY careful when repositioning the crank as this is where you can cause damage. DO NOT force anything in to position.
If you have less idlers than the example shown, the principle is still the same regarding the timing marks.

http://replace-timing-belt.com/how-to-replace-timing-belt-on-vauxhallopel-frontera-b-2-2i/

Good luck. 

4) Hope and pray once reassembled and hand turned

Wish me Luck 

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Omega General Help / Re: Iv fooked it i think

« on: 24 February 2017, 21:12:12 »

If you've turned it by hand then you are highly unlikely to have done damage - unless you've forced it?

Strip it all apart and start from scratch

To do the cam reposition do i have to crack the cam bolts that hold cams in a reposition that way after putting c/s in tdc

Look..not being funny...but I think you need to get someone else to do it.

Are u offering iv just had a real bad day we all get them but i just need to get it done

Me? Oh no..you don't wanna let me near it 

Sounded like you were offering your services

That would be a sure fire way of ensuring it never ran again 

Have i missed something or have i found my brother from another mother distroyer

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Omega General Help / Re: Iv fooked it i think

« on: 24 February 2017, 21:08:52 »

If you've turned it by hand then you are highly unlikely to have done damage - unless you've forced it?

Strip it all apart and start from scratch

To do the cam reposition do i have to crack the cam bolts that hold cams in a reposition that way after putting c/s in tdc

Look..not being funny...but I think you need to get someone else to do it.

Are u offering iv just had a real bad day we all get them but i just need to get it done

Me? Oh no..you don't wanna let me near it 

Sounded like you were offering your services

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Omega General Help / Re: Iv fooked it i think

« on: 24 February 2017, 20:55:37 »

If you've turned it by hand then you are highly unlikely to have done damage - unless you've forced it?

Strip it all apart and start from scratch

To do the cam reposition do i have to crack the cam bolts that hold cams in a reposition that way after putting c/s in tdc

Look..not being funny...but I think you need to get someone else to do it.

Are u offering iv just had a real bad day we all get them but i just need to get it done

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Omega General Help / Re: Iv fooked it i think

« on: 24 February 2017, 20:44:37 »

If you've turned it by hand then you are highly unlikely to have done damage - unless you've forced it?

Strip it all apart and start from scratch

To do the cam reposition do i have to crack the cam bolts that hold cams in a reposition that way after putting c/s in tdc

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Omega General Help / Re: Iv fooked it i think

« on: 24 February 2017, 19:25:12 »

You have removed the cam lock?

You laugh... I had a hell of a job trying to turn the crank first time I tried it on my own... turns out I had left the car in gear and couldn't turn the crank any further than the slop in the flywheel

Point is, don't overlook the obvious

I wont/havent i just need to get her purring again

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Omega General Help / Re: Iv fooked it i think

« on: 24 February 2017, 19:18:22 »

Do you have a workshop manual that covers the 2.2? its not in the Omega Haynes one, because, well ..... Haynes

I have a frontera manual, which does cover the 2.2. Let me know if you want anything emailed.

Oil in the wells is an easy (ish) one to solve, new gasket and clean the breathers. Although probably the focus should initially be on getting it running 

That is the main focus but am going to have ro remove plugs to find tdc n anything you think will help with retiming the engine please ANYTHING i need her running at least by monday

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Omega General Help / Re: Iv fooked it i think

« on: 24 February 2017, 19:08:10 »

Assuming you've only turned the engine by hand, and thus you haven't bent any valves the only reason I can think of that the cams won't turn is because they're hitting the pistons. ie - it's timed wrong. 

I hope so but i ran out of light theres some oil in plug wells so got to clean that up first then removed all plugs n hope i can retime it

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Omega General Help / Re: Iv fooked it i think

« on: 24 February 2017, 19:06:22 »

You have removed the cam lock?

  not that stupid (although feel it at moment)

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Meetings, gatherings, parties etc / Re: Possible Hampshire Meet

« on: 24 February 2017, 18:28:12 »

I'd be up for a cheeky meet 

Might even bring the V8 omega 

Cambelt party comes to mind. 

Dont get me started on cambelts iv fooked mine see other thread
http://www.omegaowners.com/forum/index.php?topic=138802.0