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[Phil]

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Now is there really something so different with the cars wiring if that is installed?

Yes there is.

Depending on the factory headunit the buttons on the wheel work differently

Also if you have the GID as opposed to a MID then you cant get a driver that works the display

[Hillper]

Glad it's in and sounding good!

But these adaptors seem a bit hit and miss.

Good luck!

[Marks DTM Calib]

It should work....the display interface and steering controls are the same for all models (unless you had a CCRT700 in which case the display interface is different),

I wouldn't worry about quality to much....its a car and your playing MP3's so the quality is already screwed before you start...just get the tonal balance to your liking.

[Jimbob]

It should work....the display interface and steering controls are the same for all models (unless you had a CCRT700 in which case the display interface is different),

I wouldn't worry about quality to much....its a car and your playing MP3's so the quality is already screwed before you start...just get the tonal balance to your liking.

Cheers for that, its what I thought too, will have another try before RMA
it was a CCR600 originally and normal MID

http://www.incarexpress.co.uk/view_product.php?partno=CADPI150
In the manual (http://www.incarexpress.co.uk/pdfs/cadpi150.pdf) , there is a reference to CDR500 CD5000 as exclusive models with CAN-BUS behind the radio, doesnt make sense to me.

As for the quality, think you misread, its fantastic, never had such good audio in a car!

[bestseany]

Make sure you keep the receipt for your Pioneer mate. Mine went back for repair under warranty 5 times in the first year of owning it! Each time with a different fault! I've had it nearly 3 years now though, and it's been ok since, although the face now refuses to stay up unless you play about with it.

The sound quality is excellent, but the build quality isn't. I was quite surprised to be honest.

I didn't bother keeping the MID information when I fitted my Pioneer into my Omega. I just cut a wire on the back of it so the MID still shows the date when the stereo is on.

[Jimbob]

Make sure you keep the receipt for your Pioneer mate. Mine went back for repair under warranty 5 times in the first year of owning it! Each time with a different fault! I've had it nearly 3 years now though, and it's been ok since, although the face now refuses to stay up unless you play about with it.

The sound quality is excellent, but the build quality isn't. I was quite surprised to be honest.

I didn't bother keeping the MID information when I fitted my Pioneer into my Omega. I just cut a wire on the back of it so the MID still shows the date when the stereo is on.

Cheers for the heads up,
Strangely my MID shows the date without tinkering.

[bestseany]

Cheers for the heads up,
Strangely my MID shows the date without tinkering.

I might have just had a bad one, but you never know. I'd probably buy an Alpine next if I had to replace it.

The wire I had to cut on the MID is the same one used for the electric aerial (or the aerial amplifier in the case of an Omega). So if that isn't connected then I guess you won't get that problem.

[Marks DTM Calib]

MP3 quality is pants unless you run minimal compression at which point you might as well of just used CD's hence the source quality is questionable....it looses a lot of top end detail and direction....fine for a noisey car environment with compromised amp design and noisey supplies but, not to be confused with HiFi quality which is a different league...

The Pioneer is 'tuned' to the average brits ear (as most are these days)...so will probabaly sound sharper and a bit tighter on the bass (I suspect) but, in reality its nothing more than an internal fiddle of the tone controls...it has a reasonable DAC (pointless given the poor source) and a better quality amp (still likely to be a compromised class D or B affair in bridge mode).

Bound to sound better then the factory unit coz that ones not fiddled with and most people dont like a flt response on the audio processing.....

[Jimbob]

MP3 quality is pants unless you run minimal compression at which point you might as well of just used CD's hence the source quality is questionable....it looses a lot of top end detail and direction....fine for a noisey car environment with compromised amp design and noisey supplies but, not to be confused with HiFi quality which is a different league...

The Pioneer is 'tuned' to the average brits ear (as most are these days)...so will probabaly sound sharper and a bit tighter on the bass (I suspect) but, in reality its nothing more than an internal fiddle of the tone controls...it has a reasonable DAC (pointless given the poor source) and a better quality amp (still likely to be a compromised class D or B affair in bridge mode).

Bound to sound better then the factory unit coz that ones not fiddled with and most people dont like a flt response on the audio processing.....

I'll happily grant you all that....

The fact remains this HU sounds better than any of my car audio ever, OEM, Pioneer, Sony, Panasonic, Kenwood,   Goodmans  regardless of source.  Only really used MP3(320kbps) so far, dont tend to put originals in the car.  When I do put a real CD in, I imagine it will be better still.
And I still need to set it up as I like it yet!

[Admin]

You have to understand Mark is a bit of an Audiophile, so his acceptable standards are totally different to the rest of us!

The car is not the best environment to listen to music from a purists view because you have strange shapes and obstacles that disturb the flow of the sound waves.
To this end, the manufacturers modify the way the sound is produced.

I have to be honest though, I am no audiophile so these things don't unduly worry me.

To you and I, it sounds great, and ultimately this is what matters.

[Jimbob]

Update:
All works fine, display & remote

Helps if you connect the cable labeled 'system remote control'  

 

Thanks again

[Admin]

  I think we have all done things like that!

[Jimbob]

Been using this a while now, and generally very happy
just fixed the last problem - since installing the adaptor, I lost on / off with ignition, and memory.
Assumed I had unplugged the switched live connector during install, took it out, was all fine, thought 'what if' and swapped the live / switched back to default in case the adaptor was that clever.....and it was, so all sorted, just need to fix my aerial connector I accidently pulled off now

So impressions.

CD / MP3 - sounds excellent, very happy
Tuner - sounded fine the brief time I used it, not really a radio person
Bluetooth - Excellent, my motorola (due for replacement next month) doesnt autoconnect, so 2 buttons to establish connection.  Nokia's however work fine.

Adaptor - Sorry to say a little poor.  The controls all work perfectly, but for some designers idea that the stereo must beep quietly whenever one is pressed, Why!!!
The display driver is what really lets it down, I hoped for track names to be relayed, but no, just get the timer for current song, and track number, a bit pointless really.
The radio does give station name though
Also expected the phone interface to show number calling, or at least 'phone', but nothing, just sits where the cd is paused.

So, would I buy it again, maybe, depends what else I could find
Love the stereo, but the interface lets it down, would prefer expanded display items and rid of that beep.  Doesnt do a lot for what it cost.
I would probaly buy the stereo again, but a cheaper autoleads adaptor and lose the display
(if you disconnect the blue wire (system remote) then you still get the date on the MID.)


At the End of the day, the £230 got me a good stereo, bluetooth hands free kit and steering contol  & display adaptor, I couldnt match that from other manufactures.

[bestseany]

Been using this a while now, and generally very happy
just fixed the last problem - since installing the adaptor, I lost on / off with ignition, and memory.
Assumed I had unplugged the switched live connector during install, took it out, was all fine, thought 'what if' and swapped the live / switched back to default in case the adaptor was that clever.....and it was, so all sorted, just need to fix my aerial connector I accidently pulled off now

So impressions.

CD / MP3 - sounds excellent, very happy
Tuner - sounded fine the brief time I used it, not really a radio person
Bluetooth - Excellent, my motorola (due for replacement next month) doesnt autoconnect, so 2 buttons to establish connection.  Nokia's however work fine.

Adaptor - Sorry to say a little poor.  The controls all work perfectly, but for some designers idea that the stereo must beep quietly whenever one is pressed, Why!!!
The display driver is what really lets it down, I hoped for track names to be relayed, but no, just get the timer for current song, and track number, a bit pointless really.
The radio does give station name though
Also expected the phone interface to show number calling, or at least 'phone', but nothing, just sits where the cd is paused.

So, would I buy it again, maybe, depends what else I could find
Love the stereo, but the interface lets it down, would prefer expanded display items and rid of that beep.  Doesnt do a lot for what it cost.
I would probaly buy the stereo again, but a cheaper autoleads adaptor and lose the display
(if you disconnect the blue wire (system remote) then you still get the date on the MID.)


At the End of the day, the £230 got me a good stereo, bluetooth hands free kit and steering contol  & display adaptor, I couldnt match that from other manufactures.

If you disconnect the system remote cable then you'll also lose the aerial amplifier mate. I cut the wire at the back of the MID instead.

Saying that though, my standard stereo is back in at the minute as my the earth cable is coming out of the loom for my Pioneer and keeps shorting out! Shame my standard CD changer doesn't work properly.

[Jimbob]

Cheers,
Wouldn't have noticed about the aerial due to having broken it....on the list for replacement  
Done yours yet?

Those CD changers are a right PIA, mine was driving me mad!
at the end, it would intermittantly eject the mag or not, lots of button jabbing needed.
When playing, loads of skipping, bit of interference, would only really play about the 1st few songs on a CD.

Very happy to be rid of it.

Does sounds like you have had very bad luck with yours