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Oil. How hard can it be.
« on: 06 November 2017, 19:56:11 »

Grrrr. I swear most of these specs are there just to make it impossible, so you end up buying the properly expensive stuff  >:(

Found a couple that meet the spec, at a not too outrageous 30 for 5l.


I hope actually changing it is easier than trying to find it ;D.  Guessing not, seeing as no dipstick, and all geared up for sucking out (but does have a sump plug, but its a pig to get to).  Chuck in 5l, wait 10m, then read the level, and repeat from there?
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Re: Oil. How hard can it be.
« Reply #1 on: 06 November 2017, 20:07:13 »

Presumably the sump plug is roughly at the lowest point of the sump... And on the side, next to the subframe which is shaped to be just big enough to fit the sump pan in ::)
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Re: Oil. How hard can it be.
« Reply #2 on: 06 November 2017, 20:25:18 »

Presumably the sump plug is roughly at the lowest point of the sump... And on the side, next to the subframe which is shaped to be just big enough to fit the sump pan in ::)
Nope. Quite accessible. Once you get the 3,000 screws holding the undertray on out...
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Re: Oil. How hard can it be.
« Reply #3 on: 06 November 2017, 20:31:37 »

Is it really that special Dexos2 wont do?

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Re: Oil. How hard can it be.
« Reply #4 on: 06 November 2017, 20:35:42 »

If is 3.0 diesel then about 7L
Pm reg and tell you exactly

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Spec oil it's bit tricky now days as I find same engine but in different make need different oil which is odd but there you go
If you do oil change every 6-8k Gmail 5w30 will be fine
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Re: Oil. How hard can it be.
« Reply #5 on: 07 November 2017, 10:22:51 »

Grrrr. I swear most of these specs are there just to make it impossible, so you end up buying the properly expensive stuff  >:(

Found a couple that meet the spec, at a not too outrageous 30 for 5l.


I hope actually changing it is easier than trying to find it ;D. Guessing not, seeing as no dipstick, and all geared up for sucking out (but does have a sump plug, but its a pig to get to).  Chuck in 5l, wait 10m, then read the level, and repeat from there?


The digital readout is a pain in the arse. The slightest incline can get it to read just about anything. :-\

With no dipstick I can't tell if the oil has been changed. :-\

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Re: Oil. How hard can it be.
« Reply #6 on: 07 November 2017, 11:27:21 »

Grrrr. I swear most of these specs are there just to make it impossible, so you end up buying the properly expensive stuff  >:(

Found a couple that meet the spec, at a not too outrageous 30 for 5l.


I hope actually changing it is easier than trying to find it ;D. Guessing not, seeing as no dipstick, and all geared up for sucking out (but does have a sump plug, but its a pig to get to).  Chuck in 5l, wait 10m, then read the level, and repeat from there?


The digital readout is a pain in the arse. The slightest incline can get it to read just about anything. :-\

With no dipstick I can't tell if the oil has been changed. :-\

Isn't there provision for a 'service' dip-stick? Those Mercs with an electronic dip-stick do, apparently it's like a flexible net curtain wire.
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Re: Oil. How hard can it be.
« Reply #7 on: 07 November 2017, 13:39:21 »

Grrrr. I swear most of these specs are there just to make it impossible, so you end up buying the properly expensive stuff  >:(

Found a couple that meet the spec, at a not too outrageous 30 for 5l.


I hope actually changing it is easier than trying to find it ;D. Guessing not, seeing as no dipstick, and all geared up for sucking out (but does have a sump plug, but its a pig to get to).  Chuck in 5l, wait 10m, then read the level, and repeat from there?


The digital readout is a pain in the arse. The slightest incline can get it to read just about anything. :-\

With no dipstick I can't tell if the oil has been changed. :-\

Isn't there provision for a 'service' dip-stick? Those Mercs with an electronic dip-stick do, apparently it's like a flexible net curtain wire.



Yes. My CLS 500 came with this 'option'

70,000 for a car and then you pay extra for a dipstick. Tight German gits. :-X
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Re: Oil. How hard can it be.
« Reply #8 on: 07 November 2017, 13:48:08 »

Grrrr. I swear most of these specs are there just to make it impossible, so you end up buying the properly expensive stuff  >:(

Found a couple that meet the spec, at a not too outrageous 30 for 5l.


I hope actually changing it is easier than trying to find it ;D. Guessing not, seeing as no dipstick, and all geared up for sucking out (but does have a sump plug, but its a pig to get to).  Chuck in 5l, wait 10m, then read the level, and repeat from there?


The digital readout is a pain in the arse. The slightest incline can get it to read just about anything. :-\

With no dipstick I can't tell if the oil has been changed. :-\

Isn't there provision for a 'service' dip-stick? Those Mercs with an electronic dip-stick do, apparently it's like a flexible net curtain wire.



Yes. My CLS 500 came with this 'option'

70,000 for a car and then you pay extra for a dipstick. Tight German gits. :-X

Everything else is an option too ..... no 2 cars are the same.
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Re: Oil. How hard can it be.
« Reply #9 on: 07 November 2017, 17:30:36 »

Is it really that special Dexos2 wont do?
Doesn't meet the spec. In fact dexos2 might not be suitable for DPF cars?
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Re: Oil. How hard can it be.
« Reply #10 on: 07 November 2017, 17:32:33 »

If is 3.0 diesel then about 7L
Pm reg and tell you exactly

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Spec oil it's bit tricky now days as I find same engine but in different make need different oil which is odd but there you go
If you do oil change every 6-8k Gmail 5w30 will be fine
6.6l for change (8.something l for dry), according to the book.

For 30 for 5l, I can get euroshite's TQX or Coma Ecolife, both meeting C1, with Ecolife explicitly stating the required Ford spec (934-B).

Decisions decisions.
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Re: Oil. How hard can it be.
« Reply #11 on: 07 November 2017, 17:51:09 »

Is it really that special Dexos2 wont do?
Doesn't meet the spec. In fact dexos2 might not be suitable for DPF cars?

My Zafira is DPF, and runs Dexos2 as standard

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Re: Oil. How hard can it be.
« Reply #12 on: 07 November 2017, 17:59:51 »

Grrrr. I swear most of these specs are there just to make it impossible, so you end up buying the properly expensive stuff  >:(

Found a couple that meet the spec, at a not too outrageous 30 for 5l.


I hope actually changing it is easier than trying to find it ;D. Guessing not, seeing as no dipstick, and all geared up for sucking out (but does have a sump plug, but its a pig to get to).  Chuck in 5l, wait 10m, then read the level, and repeat from there?


The digital readout is a pain in the arse. The slightest incline can get it to read just about anything. :-\

With no dipstick I can't tell if the oil has been changed. :-\
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Why do they change something so basic but so vital ?
Never understood the no spare wheel nonsense either , wouldn't entertain a vehicle with no spare, and as for no dipstick even dafter.
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Re: Oil. How hard can it be.
« Reply #13 on: 07 November 2017, 18:00:18 »

Just checked, Dexos2 is C3, so doesn't meet the spec I need.
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Re: Oil. How hard can it be.
« Reply #14 on: 07 November 2017, 18:18:33 »

Simple answer?
It isn't: look up the spec and buy some from whatever supplier has it in stock at an acceptable price. It's not like you need some for a ForkawahallrenMWgeot Aardvark ZKQ running on crushed dodo beaks.
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