Topic: MPG.... what do YOU get? (Read 5467 times)

51M0N · « **on:** 20 May 2011, 13:12:24 »

I'm currently averaging 18.8mpg mostly in stop start driving and idiots hesitating.

What return do you see?

I'm hoping a good service will improve this slightly.

I_want_an_Omega · « **Reply #1 on:** 20 May 2011, 13:18:45 »

I put mine to the test this week actually.

My usual average pootling about and on 10 mile runs is 28.

I did a 100 mile round trip and by nursing it there got 34, and by driving normally got 31 on the way back. Was pretty pleased with that from a 3.0 Auto

51M0N · « **Reply #2 on:** 20 May 2011, 13:20:56 »

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I put mine to the test this week actually.

My usual average pootling about and on 10 mile runs is 28.

I did a 100 mile round trip and by nursing it there got 34, and by driving normally got 31 on the way back. Was pretty pleased with that from a 3.0 Auto

WHAT!!!

cem_devecioglu · « **Reply #3 on:** 20 May 2011, 13:25:21 »

21-25 depending on the traffic..

I_want_an_Omega · « **Reply #4 on:** 20 May 2011, 13:25:29 »

Yep - gospel - honest

(climate was off) but that's the trip computer figure so who knows if its accurate.

I've done a lot of work/TLC on mine in the last year so am happy that it's running right. Getting the wheels tracked helped as was getting some scrub before.

Could regularly average mid 30's from my manual 3.0 MV6 when I had it some years back. Problem is in not giving in to the tempatation to welly it.

twiglet · « **Reply #5 on:** 20 May 2011, 13:34:28 »

25 around town, 30+ on a run. That's usually with 2 people, minimal luggage, and sensible, progressive driving!

Oh, and if it helps.... I'm now getting the equivalent of 200mpg from my diesel Cavalier, running 75% wvo!!

51M0N · « **Reply #6 on:** 20 May 2011, 13:35:03 »

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Yep - gospel - honest (climate was off) but that's the trip computer figure so who knows if its accurate.

I've done a lot of work/TLC on mine in the last year so am happy that it's running right. Getting the wheels tracked helped as was getting some scrub before.

Could regularly average mid 30's from my manual 3.0 MV6 when I had it some years back. Problem is in not giving in to the tempatation to welly it.

Mine needs a service just waiting for payday. Going to clean the throttle body etc and also get the tracking done as its wayyyyy out. Tbf I find trip computers to be way out. I work it out from how many litres of fuel it takes to fill and how many miles I did before.

aaronjb · « **Reply #7 on:** 20 May 2011, 14:15:18 »

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I'm currently averaging 18.8mpg mostly in stop start driving and idiots hesitating.

What return do you see?

I'm hoping a good service will improve this slightly.

19 seems low from a manual car to me, unless you drive it like you stole it permanently

how long since the cambelt was done? Might be worth doing it early just so you can eliminate the possibility of it being a tooth out and mullering your economy.

FWIW I get 19mpg around town out of the 3.2 Auto and ~28mpg on a 340 mile run at 80mph the whole way.

51M0N · « **Reply #8 on:** 20 May 2011, 14:19:41 »

and my battery was f**ked just tested it now kept going flat. that wont help with the alternator charging non stop

aaronjb · « **Reply #9 on:** 20 May 2011, 14:21:09 »

Actually thinking about it I get more like 21-22mpg around town usually (calculated on petrol put in vs. distance covered, not with the OBC

).. so 19 in the manual 3.0 definitely sounds a tad low.

Jimbob · « **Reply #10 on:** 20 May 2011, 14:21:16 »

3.2 Auto estate - over last 1500 miles, 21.2 mpg, mainly local, some decent runs.

Fairly typical for me.

aaronjb · « **Reply #11 on:** 20 May 2011, 14:26:26 »

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3.2 Auto estate - over last 1500 miles, 21.2 mpg, mainly local, some decent runs.

Fairly typical for me.

Ditto although I always forlornly hope for some miracle that gives me more

51M0N · « **Reply #12 on:** 20 May 2011, 14:30:56 »

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3.2 Auto estate - over last 1500 miles, 21.2 mpg, mainly local, some decent runs.

Fairly typical for me.

Ditto although I always forlornly hope for some miracle that gives me more

Also I guess the "performance" additions will help it slurp

bob.dent · « **Reply #13 on:** 20 May 2011, 14:37:58 »

Currently averaging 23-25mpg from my 3.2 auto estate based on 50 mile journey each day to and from work which is mixture of urban and a bit of motorway.
It's improved since it was serviced recently and using only Shell fuel saver fuel seems to make a difference. Prior to that I was averaging 21-23. On my fairly regular motorway trips to North Devon, I get around 30mpg at around 80mph.

Jimbob · « **Reply #14 on:** 20 May 2011, 14:46:20 »

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3.2 Auto estate - over last 1500 miles, 21.2 mpg, mainly local, some decent runs.

Fairly typical for me.

Should add can get considerably more with more careful / slower driving

Reckon I could get mid - high 20's with some care (providing not too much town driving)

fiend61 · « **Reply #15 on:** 20 May 2011, 14:49:41 »

2.5 manual - 32/33 mpg motorway 80+
28/29 mpg round town

3.0 mv6 auto-34/35 mpg motorway 80+
27/28 mpg round town

3.2 estate auto- 25/26 mpg motorway 80+
21/22 mpg round town

but really depends how heavy the right foot is

100+ and it drastically changes

tonyyeb · « **Reply #16 on:** 20 May 2011, 15:37:48 »

As a general average, 24 mpg from my 3.0 Auto (saloon).

lee4206 · « **Reply #17 on:** 20 May 2011, 16:41:40 »

18.8mpg but I only do 3-5 miles a day so it doesn't really get off choke. On a run I've had 38mpg with careful driving. I should add my car is regularly serviced (every 2k ). So yours isn't that far off to me.

Lazydocker · « **Reply #18 on:** 20 May 2011, 16:51:32 »

I try not to look at it TBH

The trouble with LPG is that you don't really worry about the running costs so much

MID on the 3.0 Auto Saloon shows 26.something over 360 ish miles of mixed motorway and fast roads with a little town driving. This is the petrol consumption (not LPG) and used to be spot on when I checked it on brim to brim fills

51M0N · « **Reply #19 on:** 20 May 2011, 16:59:28 »

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18.8mpg but I only do 3-5 miles a day so it doesn't really get off choke. On a run I've had 38mpg with careful driving. I should add my car is regularly serviced (every 2k ). So yours isn't that far off to me.

It's the same! hahaha i do 4 miles each way to work but as I said its all stop start and people taking ages to decide what to do.

2boxerdogs · « **Reply #20 on:** 20 May 2011, 17:37:01 »

8-)Hi, i have a 2.6 cdx on a 54 mile round trip to & from work always average 30 mpg, around town 19 mpg had to go to Hainult in Essex yesterday 220 mile round trip 34mpg .

51M0N · « **Reply #21 on:** 20 May 2011, 17:57:17 »

Some big daily commutes here

Nick W · « **Reply #22 on:** 20 May 2011, 18:19:50 »

My 3.0l auto estate does about 31mpg on the motorway without any pretence of driving economically. Generally it averages about 26. Which makes it more economical than the 525 manual estate I used to have; that never managed more than 27, and averaged 24 over the four years I owned it.

Incidentally, correcting the cam timing on my car(all 4 were a tooth out) not only made it drive better, but improved the enonomy by 2mpg!

TheBoy · « **Reply #23 on:** 20 May 2011, 19:13:12 »

3.0 auto over a tank or an extended (multiple fillups)
Best - 32mpg over 1800 miles
Worse - 16mpg over a tank

3.2 auto
Best - 29.9 mpg over a tank
Worse - 18.5 mpg over a tank

geoffr70 · « **Reply #24 on:** 20 May 2011, 20:58:48 »

3.0 litre elite auto 18 round town, 35 on the motorway sat at 80
3.0 litre mv6 manual 25-26 round town, 35 on motorway sat at 80

Tezray · « **Reply #25 on:** 20 May 2011, 21:04:20 »

My 3.0 MV6 auto is currently averaging just over 29mpg that's a mix of 75/25 motorway/town.

Pure motorway is 34-35 which i think is very good for a 3.0 auto. My old ex-plod manual MV6 used to return around 19-20mpg, but I did drive it like I stole it! My driving is more leisurely nowadays 8-)

barclay03 · « **Reply #26 on:** 20 May 2011, 23:35:43 »

bout 18 was what i average... all local driving

Vamps · « **Reply #27 on:** 20 May 2011, 23:51:09 »

Looking at these figures the V6 is not much worse than the 2.2 4pot....

I average 25 - 27 mpg on the computer, mostly around town, 12 mile each way commute rarely over 60.....Strangely I used 'sport' the week before last and got nearly 28..figure that....

henryd · « **Reply #28 on:** 20 May 2011, 23:52:43 »

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Looking at these figures the V6 is not much worse than the 2.2 4pot.... I average 25 - 27 mpg on the computer, mostly around town, 12 mile each way commute rarely over 60.....Strangely I used 'sport' the week before last and got nearly 28..figure that....

the words "sport" and "2.2" don't sound right together

Vamps · « **Reply #29 on:** 20 May 2011, 23:56:22 »

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Looking at these figures the V6 is not much worse than the 2.2 4pot.... I average 25 - 27 mpg on the computer, mostly around town, 12 mile each way commute rarely over 60.....Strangely I used 'sport' the week before last and got nearly 28..figure that....

the words "sport" and "2.2" don't sound right together

It can go pretty well if you floor it.......

Mr Hagon · « **Reply #30 on:** 20 May 2011, 23:58:35 »

Computer says 19.7mpg average, mostly do a 7 miles each way round town commute. Starts at 30mph, then 40mph with a smidge of dual carriageway just before the end.

Steady cruising on Inst. Cons. has always been around 23mpg, with 3/4 a tank doing me 200 miles give or take meaning I fill up every other week.

henryd · « **Reply #31 on:** 21 May 2011, 00:01:53 »

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Looking at these figures the V6 is not much worse than the 2.2 4pot.... I average 25 - 27 mpg on the computer, mostly around town, 12 mile each way commute rarely over 60.....Strangely I used 'sport' the week before last and got nearly 28..figure that....

the words "sport" and "2.2" don't sound right together

It can go pretty well if you floor it.......

I don't do that very often in mine any more,makes the fuel gauge flicker too much

geoffr70 · « **Reply #32 on:** 21 May 2011, 00:07:57 »

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Looking at these figures the V6 is not much worse than the 2.2 4pot.... I average 25 - 27 mpg on the computer, mostly around town, 12 mile each way commute rarely over 60.....Strangely I used 'sport' the week before last and got nearly 28..figure that....

the words "sport" and "2.2" don't sound right together

It can go pretty well if you floor it.......

I don't do that very often in mine any more,makes the fuel gauge flicker too much

Get it all burnt hahahahahahaha that's what it's there for! Burn it!!!!!!!!!!!

M · « **Reply #33 on:** 22 May 2011, 08:32:29 »

Up to 50.1 mpg on a recent run from Nottingham to North Wales....

30mpg all day long around town.

For the size of the car I cant moan about that

Drewomega · « **Reply #34 on:** 22 May 2011, 10:49:13 »

On a run to Gloucester a couple of weeks ago with 5 people in and 5 cases I returned 29.5mpg. That was on a distance of 960 miles.

tunnie · « **Reply #35 on:** 22 May 2011, 10:58:27 »

no idea, £40 of gas gets me about 370-400 miles

Grrrrrr · « **Reply #36 on:** 22 May 2011, 11:55:55 »

Mixture of local and motorway gets me 25 point something or other mpg in my 2.6 auto. Seems pretty consistent.

omegaman2 · « **Reply #37 on:** 22 May 2011, 14:16:06 »

39-40mpg back and to work
45-50 on the motorway cruising at 70-75mph

TheBoy · « **Reply #38 on:** 22 May 2011, 18:55:25 »

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Up to 50.1 mpg on a recent run from Nottingham to North Wales....

30mpg all day long around town.

For the size of the car I cant moan about that

Petrol or diesel? I know the Superb is more Vectra sized (cabin space), but must be light footed to get 50mpg from a petrol one though

. If diesel, thats pretty poor by today's standards, esp as the Audi 2.0TDi is an economical unit.

TheBoy · « **Reply #39 on:** 22 May 2011, 18:56:20 »

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no idea, £40 of gas gets me about 370-400 miles

£40 of gas gets me around 270 miles in the MV6. Driven like its been stolen, obviously...

M · « **Reply #40 on:** 22 May 2011, 21:16:02 »

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Up to 50.1 mpg on a recent run from Nottingham to North Wales....

30mpg all day long around town.

For the size of the car I cant moan about that

Petrol or diesel? I know the Superb is more Vectra sized (cabin space), but must be light footed to get 50mpg from a petrol one though . If diesel, thats pretty poor by today's standards, esp as the Audi 2.0TDi is an economical unit.

Its a petrol 2.0, drove it at 50-55mph from here in Nottingham via the motorway and A55 to North Wales, average was 50.1mpg, came back through the mountains but still showed 41.9 by the time we got home....

Cant really compare it to a Vectra spacewise, its much more spacious....

Getting bored of listening to myself going on about how good a car it is (for our needs).......

05omegav6 · « **Reply #41 on:** 22 May 2011, 22:38:59 »

£30 @ 135ppl sees between 110 and 130 miles depending on how its driven, not known for hanging about though and I do a fair bit of town work too. 3.2 manual btw.

2woody · « **Reply #42 on:** 23 May 2011, 09:00:06 »

3.0 manual - getting 31 on a trip and 26 everyday
3.0 auto - getting 26 on a trip and 21 everyday
2.6 manual - getting 27 on a trip and 25 everyday
5.7 manual - getting 31 on a trip and 22 or so everyday

51M0N · « **Reply #43 on:** 23 May 2011, 13:25:21 »

This weekend I got 190 miles to 40 litres.

hmmmmmmmmmm

tunnie · « **Reply #44 on:** 23 May 2011, 13:28:43 »

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no idea, £40 of gas gets me about 370-400 miles
£40 of gas gets me around 270 miles in the MV6. Driven like its been stolen, obviously...

Why not fit a button as the throttle? On/Off? Suit your driving style

51M0N · « **Reply #45 on:** 23 May 2011, 13:43:08 »

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no idea, £40 of gas gets me about 370-400 miles
£40 of gas gets me around 270 miles in the MV6. Driven like its been stolen, obviously...

HOW AND HOW?

Shimmy · « **Reply #46 on:** 23 May 2011, 13:46:54 »

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no idea, £40 of gas gets me about 370-400 miles
£40 of gas gets me around 270 miles in the MV6. Driven like its been stolen, obviously...

HOW AND HOW?

'Cos it's LPG.

Costs half as much to fill up remember!

51M0N · « **Reply #47 on:** 23 May 2011, 13:50:28 »

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no idea, £40 of gas gets me about 370-400 miles
£40 of gas gets me around 270 miles in the MV6. Driven like its been stolen, obviously...

HOW AND HOW?

'Cos it's LPG.

Costs half as much to fill up remember!

Lazydocker · « **Reply #48 on:** 23 May 2011, 16:07:34 »

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no idea, £40 of gas gets me about 370-400 miles
£40 of gas gets me around 270 miles in the MV6. Driven like its been stolen, obviously...

HOW AND HOW?

'Cos it's LPG.

Costs half as much to fill up remember!

I can assure you that I won't ever forget that again... And it's only been 3 fill-ups

tunnie · « **Reply #49 on:** 23 May 2011, 16:51:44 »

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no idea, £40 of gas gets me about 370-400 miles
£40 of gas gets me around 270 miles in the MV6. Driven like its been stolen, obviously...

HOW AND HOW?

'Cos it's LPG.

Costs half as much to fill up remember!

Yup, last fill (£41) got me 76L of lovely go go ~~juice~~ gas

Shelby · « **Reply #50 on:** 23 May 2011, 17:10:55 »

According to my trip comp, doing a 40 mile round trip along major roads with a few junctions and roundabouts, sitting at a steady 60-65, I showed an average of 29.2 over about 3/4 tank, pretty rubbish really for a 2.0l

51M0N · « **Reply #51 on:** 23 May 2011, 19:38:26 »

not enough grunt for the weight saying that my 2.0 i had years ago did 200 miles to 25 litres of fuel at a constant 70

TheBoy · « **Reply #52 on:** 23 May 2011, 19:47:18 »

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Up to 50.1 mpg on a recent run from Nottingham to North Wales....

30mpg all day long around town.

For the size of the car I cant moan about that

Petrol or diesel? I know the Superb is more Vectra sized (cabin space), but must be light footed to get 50mpg from a petrol one though . If diesel, thats pretty poor by today's standards, esp as the Audi 2.0TDi is an economical unit.

Its a petrol 2.0, drove it at 50-55mph from here in Nottingham via the motorway and A55 to North Wales, average was 50.1mpg, came back through the mountains but still showed 41.9 by the time we got home....

Cant really compare it to a Vectra spacewise, its much more spacious....

Getting bored of listening to myself going on about how good a car it is (for our needs).......

It is Vectra/Mundano size for cabin space.

Must have a light foot

M · « **Reply #53 on:** 23 May 2011, 20:06:56 »

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Up to 50.1 mpg on a recent run from Nottingham to North Wales....

30mpg all day long around town.

For the size of the car I cant moan about that

Petrol or diesel? I know the Superb is more Vectra sized (cabin space), but must be light footed to get 50mpg from a petrol one though . If diesel, thats pretty poor by today's standards, esp as the Audi 2.0TDi is an economical unit.

Its a petrol 2.0, drove it at 50-55mph from here in Nottingham via the motorway and A55 to North Wales, average was 50.1mpg, came back through the mountains but still showed 41.9 by the time we got home....

Cant really compare it to a Vectra spacewise, its much more spacious....

Getting bored of listening to myself going on about how good a car it is (for our needs).......

It is Vectra/Mundano size for cabin space.

Must have a light foot

I think you need to get into the back of one and then say its Vectra/Mondeo size.

Its Passat size plus 4inch extra legroom.....

Did have a light foot, on that journey anyway!! Wanted to see what I could get out of it.....

TheBoy · « **Reply #54 on:** 23 May 2011, 20:17:26 »

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I think you need to get into the back of one and then say its Vectra/Mondeo size.

Its Passat size plus 4inch extra legroom.....

Did have a light foot, on that journey anyway!! Wanted to see what I could get out of it.....

I am frequently in the back (and front) of one

I'm glad it works for you, but I don't think its anything special. Its not a bad car, its quite a good car, but not worth creaming your jeans over it at every opportunity

M · « **Reply #55 on:** 23 May 2011, 20:40:02 »

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I think you need to get into the back of one and then say its Vectra/Mondeo size.

Its Passat size plus 4inch extra legroom.....

Did have a light foot, on that journey anyway!! Wanted to see what I could get out of it.....

I am frequently in the back (and front) of one

I'm glad it works for you, but I don't think its anything special. Its not a bad car, its quite a good car, but not worth creaming your jeans over it at every opportunity

lol

51M0N · « **Reply #56 on:** 23 May 2011, 22:20:32 »

erm.....

So we establish my 18mpg is bad then

Andy B · « **Reply #57 on:** 23 May 2011, 22:29:33 »

the trip computer on mine is showing 23 mpg, mostly knocking about town.

henryd · « **Reply #58 on:** 23 May 2011, 22:41:51 »

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the trip computer on mine is showing 23 mpg, mostly knocking about town.

which is about what mine reads kicking around the lanes down here

Seth · « **Reply #59 on:** 24 May 2011, 01:10:12 »

Locally: 33mpg
Spirited cross-country dash: 40mpg
Steady motorway cruising 43mpg
Towing caravan: 22mpg

All above using the 'brim the tank' method.

Grrrrrr · « **Reply #60 on:** 30 May 2011, 11:57:52 »

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So we establish my 18mpg is bad then

Sounds a bit low but if it is all very short stop start trips then it will be. Try resetting trip and have a day out somewhere!

51M0N · « **Reply #61 on:** 31 May 2011, 09:18:01 »

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So we establish my 18mpg is bad then

Sounds a bit low but if it is all very short stop start trips then it will be. Try resetting trip and have a day out somewhere!

Then I'd use the BMW lol 50mpg

Lazydocker · « **Reply #62 on:** 31 May 2011, 09:30:02 »

Errm... I'd rather not look at mine because having had LPG for over 2 years the driving style isn't going to give good MPG figures

Ian_D · « **Reply #63 on:** 31 May 2011, 12:37:12 »

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Locally: 33mpg
Spirited cross-country dash: 40mpg
Steady motorway cruising 43mpg
Towing caravan: 22mpg

All above using the 'brim the tank' method.

Wow! Surprised you dont get more that 22MPG towing the caravan, unless its a massive thing?

For me:

To work and back (old job): 14-16mpg
To work and back (new job): 18mpg
General pottering around: 24-25mpg ish
On a good run (with car loaded with people): 32mpg ish
On a good run (car empty): 27-28mpg ish.
Mainly motorways with caravan: 22mpg

All with the 3.0 Auto.

Abiton · « **Reply #64 on:** 31 May 2011, 12:57:10 »

456 miles to the first occurrence of the fuel light very recently. Not sure how many litres it was to refill from there, but I'm pretty sure it was a best ever.

2.0 manual petrol BTW.

51M0N · « **Reply #65 on:** 31 May 2011, 13:21:02 »

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For me:

To work and back (old job): 14-16mpg
To work and back (new job): 18mpg
General pottering around: 24-25mpg ish
On a good run (with car loaded with people): 32mpg ish
On a good run (car empty): 27-28mpg ish.
Mainly motorways with caravan: 22mpg

All with the 3.0 Auto.

eh?

Marks DTM Calib · « **Reply #66 on:** 31 May 2011, 13:43:07 »

er indoors used to get 24-28 around town and it would do 34-35 at 70 fully loaded on a run.

I have seen 38-41 on a run at about 65, I could never bring myself to drive less than that on a motorway!

Ian_D · « **Reply #67 on:** 31 May 2011, 13:44:44 »

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For me:

To work and back (old job): 14-16mpg
To work and back (new job): 18mpg
General pottering around: 24-25mpg ish
On a good run (with car loaded with people): 32mpg ish
On a good run (car empty): 27-28mpg ish.
Mainly motorways with caravan: 22mpg

All with the 3.0 Auto.

eh?

I take its steady when I've got passengers!

On my own, well... I need to check that I've got 200+ horses pulling me along every now and then

All boils down to driving style...
I remember when I had a 1.8 Vectra, I Managed to get from one side of York to the other via town centre (at 11pm ish, so avoiding drunks etc) Hit every traffic light at red, and still got 42mpg.

Not easy to achieve though – You basically can’t use the brakes, and use the throttle very lightly. Plan ahead as far as you can see almost, and when slowing down, use engine braking so the fuel injectors turn off, that said don’t start engine braking to early, or you will need to accelerate again, like wise, don’t start engine braking too late because you loose valuable time when the engine could be in over run (injectors turned off)! Also, remember that while engine braking, there’s no brake lights! Always keep the car rolling if possible.

51M0N · « **Reply #68 on:** 31 May 2011, 16:08:50 »

I am the master of economy driving when I want to. Thats how I can get 40-50mpg out of a petrol BMW. Its not that fast so I just plod along. progressive driving and planning ahead

other idiot drivers ruin it though. when they hesitate or make you slow down for no reason.

Omega paul · « **Reply #69 on:** 31 May 2011, 18:54:36 »

Try a cata-clean it works wonders

pirate · « **Reply #70 on:** 31 May 2011, 19:05:44 »

only get 16 to the gallon. till i leval off at 135 mph
in germany of course.
seen 38 at 80 mph so shes in good health.

51M0N · « **Reply #71 on:** 31 May 2011, 20:20:04 »

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Try a cata-clean it works wonders

Sell that at work.

Not much use to me though.

kevb · « **Reply #72 on:** 11 June 2011, 12:27:01 »

around town mid 20s but on a run down the m3 last month sticking to around 70-75 at about 1750 rpm on board computer was showing 46.9 i think i must of been seeing things not bad for a 2.5td manual i think

henryd · « **Reply #73 on:** 11 June 2011, 13:23:52 »

I did a 90 mile round trip last night,even mix of dual carriage and A roads and got 26.4 average which isn't bad as I was ahem pressing on

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