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Never assume anything
« on: 23 February 2021, 13:06:08 »

When I got rid of my 1.4 petrol astra J, I nicked the space saver out of it for my 2.0 diesel astra J, got to be the same, right? Wrong  :( Got a slow puncture and thought I'd change the wheel for the space saver. Dog crate, two plastic boxes, various towels and other dog related bits out. Jack out, space saver out. Wheel off, fck, it won't fit. Reversal of above procedure and no better off.  ;D
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Re: Never assume anything
« Reply #1 on: 23 February 2021, 13:12:38 »

I thought they were the same. Unless you've got 4 stud v 5 stud?
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Re: Never assume anything
« Reply #2 on: 23 February 2021, 13:19:04 »

Different pcds :-\
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« Reply #3 on: 23 February 2021, 13:24:25 »

Different pcds :-\
Yes. Just ordered a wheel from Vauxhall, he tells me the callipers on mine are much bigger or something, so different offsets. 65 for the wheel, not bad, and, as they're both 16", I can get the existing (brand new) tyre changed over.
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« Reply #4 on: 23 February 2021, 13:24:49 »

Wow.
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Re: Never assume anything
« Reply #5 on: 23 February 2021, 13:29:07 »

I've just been very nice to my local tyre man and he will fix my puncture tomorrow. I know they hate you driving in rather than dropping the wheel off, because it's a fiddly, not-much-money job, but I've he'd enough tyres off him in the past.
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« Reply #6 on: 23 February 2021, 13:31:08 »

It's a side effect of a front wheel puncture with bigger brakes. Swap the space saver onto the rear, then fit the 'rear'* wheel on to the punctured front.

*assuming the same width. Also the space saver is designed to get you somewhere safe, not to the next MoT  ;D
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Re: Never assume anything
« Reply #7 on: 23 February 2021, 14:08:48 »

astra up to and including the H (so up to 2010 ish )  was 4 x 100 or 5 x 110 pcd

after that it could be 5 x 115 or 5 x 105 pcd

so regardless of brake clearance ,fitting front or back ,it won't fit

it's a similar story with other vauxhall models  :y

i've got 4 new 5 x 110 space savers to go on the next car i scrap from the fleet ,taken from the boots of the astra H's and replaced with full size spares . I don't think the weight increase will massively effect the MPG of the fleet (2 1.6 petrol and 2 1.7 cdti)
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« Reply #8 on: 23 February 2021, 14:13:18 »

I should have been clearer, that was on the Omega with Monaro front brakes... 17" fit, but not the 15/16" spares ;)

Changing one wheel on the side of the A3 was bad enough, but having to change two because one doesn't fit is irksome ;D
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« Reply #9 on: 23 February 2021, 14:52:02 »

astra up to and including the H (so up to 2010 ish )  was 4 x 100 or 5 x 110 pcd

after that it could be 5 x 115 or 5 x 105 pcd

so regardless of brake clearance ,fitting front or back ,it won't fit

it's a similar story with other vauxhall models  :y

i've got 4 new 5 x 110 space savers to go on the next car i scrap from the fleet ,taken from the boots of the astra H's and replaced with full size spares . I don't think the weight increase will massively effect the MPG of the fleet (2 1.6 petrol and 2 1.7 cdti)
Yes, I knew that already, but both of mine are astra J's, 2012 1.4 petrol won't fit 2014 2.0 diesel.
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Re: Never assume anything
« Reply #10 on: 23 February 2021, 15:05:29 »

And astra J won't fit astra K.
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« Reply #11 on: 23 February 2021, 15:13:39 »

astra up to and including the H (so up to 2010 ish )  was 4 x 100 or 5 x 110 pcd

after that it could be 5 x 115 or 5 x 105 pcd

so regardless of brake clearance ,fitting front or back ,it won't fit

it's a similar story with other vauxhall models  :y

i've got 4 new 5 x 110 space savers to go on the next car i scrap from the fleet ,taken from the boots of the astra H's and replaced with full size spares . I don't think the weight increase will massively effect the MPG of the fleet (2 1.6 petrol and 2 1.7 cdti)
Yes, I knew that already, but both of mine are astra J's, 2012 1.4 petrol won't fit 2014 2.0 diesel.
Ah Ok ,
so the 1.4 wheel is probably 5 x 105 and the 2L diesel is probably 5 x 115
Obviously Astra J or K are not rusty enough yet for me to consider buying  ;)
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« Reply #12 on: 23 February 2021, 15:17:57 »

astra up to and including the H (so up to 2010 ish )  was 4 x 100 or 5 x 110 pcd

after that it could be 5 x 115 or 5 x 105 pcd

so regardless of brake clearance ,fitting front or back ,it won't fit

it's a similar story with other vauxhall models  :y

i've got 4 new 5 x 110 space savers to go on the next car i scrap from the fleet ,taken from the boots of the astra H's and replaced with full size spares . I don't think the weight increase will massively effect the MPG of the fleet (2 1.6 petrol and 2 1.7 cdti)
Yes, I knew that already, but both of mine are astra J's, 2012 1.4 petrol won't fit 2014 2.0 diesel.
Ah Ok ,
so the 1.4 wheel is probably 5 x 105 and the 2L diesel is probably 5 x 115
Obviously Astra J or K are not rusty enough yet for me to consider buying  ;)
Never seen a rusty J, and the oldest are 11 years old now.
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Re: Never assume anything
« Reply #13 on: 23 February 2021, 18:05:36 »

Lucky it wasn't a fast puncture then.....
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Re: Never assume anything
« Reply #14 on: 23 February 2021, 18:32:01 »

Lucky it wasn't a fast puncture then.....
My thoughts exactly, Tigger. On the motorway, in the dark, pissing down, etc,  ;D
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