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[kcl]

I suspect my wishbone bushes are shot but how can I be sure? When levering the front bush with pry bar in/out it moves quite easily but how hard it should be to move it? Is there any good method to make sure it's the bushes that are shot?

[feeutfo]

They should be very stiff. Yours are fubar.

If the rearward bush is not split fit Polly.

[kcl]

Ok, thanks 
Poly's might be the best option but I think I will only put some pattern wishbones in and have the opportunity to re-do all within a few miles as this is kind of a hobby to me  And I get a permit to go to my garage and the only extra loss will be another wheel alignment

[Shackeng]

Ok, thanks 
Poly's might be the best option but I think I will only put some pattern wishbones in and have the opportunity to re-do all within a few miles as this is kind of a hobby to me  And I get a permit to go to my garage and the only extra loss will be another wheel alignment

This is a correct assessment if you use pattern 'bones. I speak from experience. Lemforders will last better. 

[05omegav6]

Just fit the polys Can be done in situ, thus preserving geometry

[kcl]

Just fit the polys Can be done in situ, thus preserving geometry

What? How is that possible? Just the fronts I think? I thought you'd need a press to do that? Where can I get ones?

[Michael2.6]

I think you need press to get the old bushes out

or a good hacksaw and screwdrive

impossible with wishbone on the car

[05omegav6]

I think you need press to get the old bushes out

or a good hacksaw and screwdrive

impossible with wishbone on the car

No it's not, and it preserves the track/camber setting There is a nice Video of it being done round here somewhere

Hacksaw/chisel. Basically, you cut the middle out with a knife or blow torch, then cut through the outer bushing, taking care not to cut through the arm itself. Use the chisel to knock the outer bush in on itself and it should fall out easily enough. Polys then just push in.

#Same procedure as off car but less hassle

http://www.omegaowners.com/forum/index.php?topic=90676.0

[feeutfo]

impossible with wishbone on the car

Sorry Micheal but that's rubbish. Where are you getting your info?

[05omegav6]

Delicately put...

[05omegav6]

Found the video

http://s696.photobucket.com/albums/vv327/Turkpix/?action=view&current=HowtofitFrontPoly-Bush-1.mp4

Watch and learn

[geoffr70]

How many people here have actually removed the front bush with the wb still on the car? I bet more have with it off. I think for all intents and purposes it is impossible, assuming you don't have your own personal pit and pit jack, or a car lift, and reciprocating saw.

I've just polybushed my elite a few days ago. With the car on stands on the drive like 99% of people will go this job, it's easier to just take it off, after all it's no great hardship once you've gone that far and it's only nuts and bolts. And it allows extra clearance and leverage when working on the old wishbone.

The video doesn't actually show the bush being removed, and it needs some bloody encouragement I can tell you, even with a few relief cuts.

[omega3000]

Where do we get the poly bushes ? What we talking price wise for both sides .
Also does that metal insert come with the new poly bush , never replaced with polys so just presuming the insert comes in with the replacement kit 

[05omegav6]

Where do we get the poly bushes ? What we talking price wise for both sides .
Also does that metal insert come with the new poly bush , never replaced with polys so just presuming the insert comes in with the replacement kit 

No insert, just push the 2 halves in to the arm, metal bush comes with the bushes and just pushes in.

How many people here have actually removed the front bush with the wb still on the car? I bet more have with it off. I think for all intents and purposes it is impossible, assuming you don't have your own personal pit and pit jack, or a car lift, and reciprocating saw.

I've just polybushed my elite a few days ago. With the car on stands on the drive like 99% of people will go this job, it's easier to just take it off, after all it's no great hardship once you've gone that far and it's only nuts and bolts. And it allows extra clearance and leverage when working on the old wishbone.

The video doesn't actually show the bush being removed, and it needs some bloody encouragement I can tell you, even with a few relief cuts.

A valid point Geoff, I did mine before fitting the new arms to the car, biggest hardship was the blunt hacksaw blade . An electric hacksaw would make fairly light work of the bush . The video also shows just how far you can move the arm down in order to work on it.
With the car driven up on a pair of ramps, you've a bit more space to play with, granted it won't be comfortable, but it is feasible...

[Lazydocker]

Seen a few pairs changed without removing the wishbone, one of which at Newent

But it will still need the geometry setting up anyway so I would generally remove it. As for cheap wishbones always failing early... Not always true I had a pair that out lasted MarkDTM's Lemforders But the next pair, from the same supplier, weren't as good

So it's pot luck