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hydraulic handbrake setup ?
« on: 29 October 2016, 13:27:27 »

Hi im about to fit a hydraulic handbrake to my 2.2petrol. I bin looking at the pipes that come from the abs pump. I need to link both rears together to send into the feed side of the handbrake the split it again from outlet to both rear calipers ???
Question I have is will I still have abs ???

Thanks to anyone who takes the time to read this.any help would be a life saver   
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Re: hydraulic handbrake setup ?
« Reply #1 on: 29 October 2016, 13:59:25 »

The ABS will possibly still work, but unless you intend to go drifting your Omega, why do you want a hydraulic handbrake fitting...?
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Re: hydraulic handbrake setup ?
« Reply #2 on: 29 October 2016, 14:06:59 »

The ABS will possibly still work, but unless you intend to go drifting your Omega, why do you want a hydraulic handbrake fitting...?
You got it one mate its booked on santa pod end of next month  ;D I m about to cut the lines now so fingers crossed.
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Re: hydraulic handbrake setup ?
« Reply #3 on: 29 October 2016, 19:11:54 »

The ABS will possibly still work, but unless you intend to go drifting your Omega, why do you want a hydraulic handbrake fitting...?
You got it one mate its booked on santa pod end of next month  ;D I m about to cut the lines now so fingers crossed.
Lazy...

A bit of effort and imagination would see the mechanical handbrake replaced with hydraulic one and leaving the main brakes, and more importantly, the ABS intact :-X
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Re: hydraulic handbrake setup ?
« Reply #4 on: 29 October 2016, 19:30:38 »

The ABS will possibly still work, but unless you intend to go drifting your Omega, why do you want a hydraulic handbrake fitting...?
You got it one mate its booked on santa pod end of next month  ;D I m about to cut the lines now so fingers crossed.

Surely the 2.2 is not the correct car to drift? My 2.5's will spin the rear wheels, but my 2.2 won't. They are all Auto though...
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Re: hydraulic handbrake setup ?
« Reply #5 on: 29 October 2016, 20:12:19 »

The ABS will possibly still work, but unless you intend to go drifting your Omega, why do you want a hydraulic handbrake fitting...?
You got it one mate its booked on santa pod end of next month  ;D I m about to cut the lines now so fingers crossed.
Lazy...
Interesting would it still ratchet for mot purpose? No instructions came with the handbrake and that was the first thing that came to mind I could be wrong ?

A bit of effort and imagination would see the mechanical handbrake replaced with hydraulic one and leaving the main brakes, and more importantly, the ABS intact :-X
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Re: hydraulic handbrake setup ?
« Reply #6 on: 29 October 2016, 20:25:57 »

Steve6367 my auto with welded diff goes in the wet pretty good but have to use the weight and massive lead foot in the dry the manual one just needs the clutch kicked in second and a lead foot even with its open diff  ;D  not really got enough grunt but for my first proper drifter its gonna get wrecked on the track.
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Re: hydraulic handbrake setup ?
« Reply #7 on: 29 October 2016, 21:38:48 »

Is it still to be used on the road?
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Re: hydraulic handbrake setup ?
« Reply #8 on: 29 October 2016, 22:21:41 »

Yes mate still needs to be street legal if possible I think its to heavy for a 3.5t beavertail  :'(
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Re: hydraulic handbrake setup ?
« Reply #9 on: 30 October 2016, 08:14:55 »

Steve6367 my auto with welded diff goes in the wet pretty good but have to use the weight and massive lead foot in the dry the manual one just needs the clutch kicked in second and a lead foot even with its open diff  ;D  not really got enough grunt but for my first proper drifter its gonna get wrecked on the track.

I hadn't considered the diff, guess locking that helps  :y Wrecked, Omega, Wrecked  :D  :'(
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Re: hydraulic handbrake setup ?
« Reply #10 on: 30 October 2016, 10:40:30 »

Don't join lines into one hydraulic cylider. Get two cylinders, linked to one lever, and run brake lines to each cylinder.

PS. how is it for everyday use with weldded diff? Noticable understeer?
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Re: hydraulic handbrake setup ?
« Reply #11 on: 30 October 2016, 11:08:20 »

The 2.2 can become a powerful weapon with the correct bits bolted to it - like a supercharger....

You should at leats be able to get the rear to slide, but doubt it has the grunt to hold it in a drift....

I used to get mine to slide (V6 2.5 235BHP) on my local track, especially in the wet.... but that was with an auto and standard diff... which didnt help TBH.... was looking for a LSD but none came up at a good price....

With a manual, you should be able to get it to slide, especially with a welded diff. I wouldnt like to drive it on a normal road though....
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Re: hydraulic handbrake setup ?
« Reply #12 on: 30 October 2016, 12:30:31 »

Steve6367 my auto with welded diff goes in the wet pretty good but have to use the weight and massive lead foot in the dry the manual one just needs the clutch kicked in second and a lead foot even with its open diff  ;D  not really got enough grunt but for my first proper drifter its gonna get wrecked on the track.

I hadn't considered the diff, guess locking that helps  :y Wrecked, Omega, Wrecked  :D  :'(

I hope I dont wreck it lol she's a clean motor will try post some pic later it wont let me on my tablet
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Re: hydraulic handbrake setup ?
« Reply #13 on: 30 October 2016, 12:43:16 »

Don't join lines into one hydraulic cylider. Get two cylinders, linked to one lever, and run brake lines to each cylinder.

PS. how is it for everyday use with weldded diff? Noticable understeer?

Now that would be perfect im not sure there is enough room for twin cylinders ?

As for every day use its fine mate done over 5k in my auto. You can hear the tyres skip abit on tight lock especially on shiny tarmac car parks then you get some funny looks  ;D the only time it broke lose on normal driving was in a strom the other week when the road became a river.
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Re: hydraulic handbrake setup ?
« Reply #14 on: 30 October 2016, 13:01:20 »

The 2.2 can become a powerful weapon with the correct bits bolted to it - like a supercharger....

You should at leats be able to get the rear to slide, but doubt it has the grunt to hold it in a drift....

I used to get mine to slide (V6 2.5 235BHP) on my local track, especially in the wet.... but that was with an auto and standard diff... which didnt help TBH.... was looking for a LSD but none came up at a good price....

With a manual, you should be able to get it to slide, especially with a welded diff. I wouldnt like to drive it on a normal road though....

im interested I  your supercharger idea I had thought of the saab 9000 2.3 turbo unit petty sure its the same bell housing pattern? I had 1 yonks ago stage 3 map 480bhp. Now then I would have a serious machine maybe comp spec it and enter  :) its fine to dive mate
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