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Front Strut removal
« on: 13 September 2012, 12:27:27 »

Cant find a "how to" anywhere ...

Do I need spring compressors to remove the strut or can that be done off the car and is it easy to do ?
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Re: Front Strut removal
« Reply #1 on: 13 September 2012, 12:28:42 »

Cant find a "how to" anywhere ...

Do I need spring compressors to remove the strut or can that be done off the car and is it easy to do ?
comes out as a complete unit. :y
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Re: Front Strut removal
« Reply #2 on: 13 September 2012, 12:30:56 »

Yeah comes out as one unit, worth measuring the camber setup before removal. So you can at least get it roughly in same place, when re-fitting.  :y
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Re: Front Strut removal
« Reply #3 on: 13 September 2012, 12:34:49 »

Is there a how too on camber ?... is that the one with the spirit level etc?

So when removing it is essentially the 2 bolts at the bottom, the drop link and the bolt inside the engine bay at the top of the wings?
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Re: Front Strut removal
« Reply #4 on: 13 September 2012, 12:41:07 »

Yeah thats it  :y

I just used an old block of wood to measure the camber  ;D - Never get it spot on, but enough not to wreck tyres too much, as you will need a trip to WIM once you've re-fitted.

I used spring compressors  :)
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Re: Front Strut removal
« Reply #5 on: 13 September 2012, 12:48:05 »

Just worried if I take out the top bolt while in the car the stryt wil explode ... what is holding the spring in place I cant work it out

Also something like these compressors?...32cm long enough ??
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Re: Front Strut removal
« Reply #6 on: 13 September 2012, 13:21:09 »

If you open the bonnet and look at the strut-top, you'll see a nut with a round metal plate under it. These hold the strut assembly to the car. You undo the droplink first, then the two bolts that hold the strut to the hub carrier, and then the nut at the top. Ensure that you are holding the strut securely as it's heavy!

Now you need the spring compressors. Omega springs are big, oddly shaped and powerful. If you don't have some robust compressors, you should seriously consider paying to use professional kit as you can really hurt yourself. The wimpy sets sold for doing mk1 Escorts and the like are not up to the job.

Once you have the spring securely compressed, then you undo the nut at the top of the strut, and remove the rubber top mount and the bearing underneath it. If you do nothing else before reassembly, gently pry the bearing apart to clean, inspect and grease it. As it contains about 2 dozen small ball bearings which you don't want to lose, I would recommend you do this job in  a container. Something like a 1litre icecream tub is ideal. Clean the whole lot with your favourite solvent(I like thinners as it's cheap, effective and I keep it in stock, but a few squirts of brake cleaner or white spirit will do), and check that the metal races are not worn, and that the ball bearing are still evenly shiny. Then reassemble the lot with a bit of fresh grease. I found on my car that the bearings were dry, and caused a loud creak when the steering wheel was turned.

Then you reassemble the strut, which is the tricky bit if your compressors are small.

Refitting is the reverse of disassembly.


This isn't a difficult job, but good equipment and good practice are vital. Another pair of hands is useful.
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Re: Front Strut removal
« Reply #7 on: 13 September 2012, 13:47:50 »

Excellent thanks for that .... how did you know I had an escort mk1??...and that I changed the springs on it ???

Spooky!

Seriously ... that is very helpful ..I just had visions of undoing the top bolt and the whole assembly shooting out but I now realise there are 2 bolts at the top ... one to hold the strut together and one to hold the strut in the car...... Will try to get lots of pics and post a how to if I can

I too have that funny creeking noise and I am certain it is from the top bearing ... I guess I will soon find out!!
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Re: Front Strut removal
« Reply #8 on: 13 September 2012, 14:07:54 »

Most of the cheaper spring compressors are pretty flimsy, which doesn't matter much with the low spring rates and parallel sided springs of old cars. Modern springs tend to be shorter, with much higher rates and barrel shaped. So the older compressors don't get much of a grip, or enough travel. I've a mate who recently had 3 days in hospital whilst they screwed his hand back together after getting in the way of a Mondeo spring when the compressor slipped. Pete's an experienced machine fitter and has been doing this work for over 30 years. Suspension springs contain a lot of energy, and so can be dangerous.

As for the bearing, have you checked Eurocarparts website? Look under 'suspension mountings', and you'll find SKF bearings for £17. Which is what I'll do if I ever need to take my struts off again.

Be careful!
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Re: Front Strut removal
« Reply #9 on: 13 September 2012, 14:14:42 »

I will probably go for the "claw " type as if I remember rightly the ones with smaller hooks tend to slip in quite an explosive manner ... very frightening

Will prob go for these....what do you think

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/GERMAN-SUSPENSION-SPRING-COMPRESSORS-NEW-FOR-VW-AUDI-/390459152724?pt=UK_CarsParts_Vehicles_CarParts_SM&hash=item5ae92dd954#ht_1727wt_952

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Re: Front Strut removal
« Reply #10 on: 13 September 2012, 14:16:23 »

I have similar, worked fine for me

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Re: Front Strut removal
« Reply #11 on: 13 September 2012, 18:01:44 »

When ever I have needed to replace front springs on the Omega,I have removed the entire strut and spring.

Then gone to local "speedy fit center" with a nice crisp note  ;D and the 2 new springs.Had a word with one of the fitters and explain there is drink involved and that tends to get them changed over with no problem. :y

Arriving mid morning usual is best as they tend to be at there quitest and cash exchange is less than buying a spring compressor of dubious quality and potential dangers involved. :y
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Re: Front Strut removal
« Reply #12 on: 13 September 2012, 18:12:49 »

So the older compressors don't get much of a grip, or enough travel. I've a mate who recently had 3 days in hospital whilst they screwed his hand back together after getting in the way of a Mondeo spring when the compressor slipped. Pete's an experienced machine fitter and has been doing this work for over 30 years. Suspension springs contain a lot of energy, and so can be dangerous.


>looks at damage to thumb from when he was 18< Yep, I'd agree with that...  ;D
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Re: Front Strut removal
« Reply #13 on: 13 September 2012, 18:43:15 »

I will probably go for the "claw " type as if I remember rightly the ones with smaller hooks tend to slip in quite an explosive manner ... very frightening

Will prob go for these....what do you think

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/GERMAN-SUSPENSION-SPRING-COMPRESSORS-NEW-FOR-VW-AUDI-/390459152724?pt=UK_CarsParts_Vehicles_CarParts_SM&hash=item5ae92dd954#ht_1727wt_952

I used those ones as well and they worked fine, just keep even pressure and take it slowly and keep your head back!!, getting the springs off the car is easy, the second side will be twice as fast!!
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Re: Front Strut removal
« Reply #14 on: 13 September 2012, 18:48:43 »

For removal, I lay the shock on its side, and subscribe to the "foot on spring, then see how far up the drive you can fire the shock when it's undone with a windy gun" method. :)

Depend on the length of spring, but it doesnt actually go that far tbh. Very disapointing :(

;D

If lowered springs such as irmschers 30mill drop, as Mark showed me at Newent once, you don't need spring compressors at all, as the springs are just short enough with a bit of leaning on. Any longer though, and compressors are a must. ;)
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