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Chat Area => General Car Chat => Topic started by: omega3000 on 18 November 2012, 20:40:26
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I like the old classic cars "thats why i bought the omega" ;D But this one really is nice STANDARD (http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/1960-STANDARD-ENSIGHN-RUNS-AND-DRIVES-EASY-RESTORATION-SOLID-RARE-CAR-/190754893877?pt=Automobiles_UK&hash=item2c69e0b035) :)
Never heard of this make , too young ::)
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Standard bought and merged with Triumph. That's why many Triumph parts are marked 'Stanpart'
My hotrod project to be started next year is a 1939ish Standard Flying 12 drophead convertible. One of probably 6 left.
The owners club is going to hate me, but that's OK.
They're not going to be able to catch me!
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Standard bought and merged with Triumph. That's why many Triumph parts are marked 'Stanpart'
My hotrod project to be started next year is a 1939ish Standard Flying 12 drophead convertible. One of probably 6 left.
The owners club is going to hate me, but that's OK.
They're not going to be able to catch me!
Sounds great nick , hopefully we could have a peek at the project a bit later on :)
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You'd think the seller would be able to spell the model of his car, especially as it's in big letters on the front!!! ;D ;D ;D
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haha what a gorgeous little car.
this has prompted my old man telling me to look for loads of different cars from his era ::) :y
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prefer this one more though
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/OPEL-DIPLOMATIC-5-4-1971-ONLY-ONE-COUNTRY-VERY-VERY-RARE-/221153151522?_trksid=p2047675.m2109&_trkparms=aid%3D555001%26algo%3DPW.CURRENT%26ao%3D1%26asc%3D29%26meid%3D3556891999057867510%26pid%3D100010%26prg%3D1013%26rk%3D3%26sd%3D190754893877%26 (http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/OPEL-DIPLOMATIC-5-4-1971-ONLY-ONE-COUNTRY-VERY-VERY-RARE-/221153151522?_trksid=p2047675.m2109&_trkparms=aid%3D555001%26algo%3DPW.CURRENT%26ao%3D1%26asc%3D29%26meid%3D3556891999057867510%26pid%3D100010%26prg%3D1013%26rk%3D3%26sd%3D190754893877%26)
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I like the old classic cars "thats why i bought the omega" ;D But this one really is nice STANDARD (http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/1960-STANDARD-ENSIGHN-RUNS-AND-DRIVES-EASY-RESTORATION-SOLID-RARE-CAR-/190754893877?pt=Automobiles_UK&hash=item2c69e0b035) :)
Never heard of this make , too young ::)
My parents had a Standard 10 but that was way way before my time. :y
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Think the Ensign followed on from the Vanguard, and i`m sure they used the engine in the early Triumph TR/2, great big lump of a motor.theses are all my era cars :y :D
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That Diplomat is a cracker.
keith B
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Here's one restored :)
(http://i219.photobucket.com/albums/cc41/milleblack/StandardEnsign1.jpg)
Lovely ..
(http://i219.photobucket.com/albums/cc41/milleblack/StandardEnsign2.jpg)
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I am afraid I knew them only too well, being old enough to remember them going around in large numbers! :D
An uncle of mine had a lovely Standard 10, in red, which I traveled on a number of occasions until he smashed it up and almost killed himself. He went on to have Triumphs, Herald's and Vitesse
The Standard 10 like my Uncle's:
(http://i282.photobucket.com/albums/kk247/lizziefreeman/Standard10.jpg)
My Driving instructor in 1970 had one of these a Standard Vanguard if I remember correctly. It was super to ride in:
(http://i282.photobucket.com/albums/kk247/lizziefreeman/StandardCar.jpg)
:y
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Well they look like well built tubs to me , worth restoring and driving tax free :-*
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Well they look like well built tubs to me , worth restoring and driving tax free :-*
I well remember my old one .. 0-50 (it never EVER reached 60 .. even downhill with a force 9 behind it) in about 3 1/2 hours .... and when it rained you had to keep taking your foot off the accelerator to give a bit of "suck" to the vacuum powered wipers !!
But it had more room on the back seat than the moggie minor had .. and at the time that was a VERY important point.
The standard was swapped for a Consol Mk 1 fairly quickly... as I discovered the benefits of a bench front seat, column gear change and "umbrella" hand brake ...... :y :y :y :y :D :D :D :D
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Well they look like well built tubs to me , worth restoring and driving tax free :-*
Yes, I think you are right there; they were well built for their time. The engines could easily break, and the bodywork would eventually rust badly, with no rustproofing as I am aware. But that was typical of all cars built in the 1950s and 1960s.
They were heavy beasts of thick steel, and that is why a number still survive. If I remember correctly from that time it was the engine that always spelt the end for those cars. I know my father in law preferred to buy old Austin Westminster's, Humber Super Snipes, and some other larger 1950s, early 1960 cars. They all died due to engine problems (big ends gone, cylinder head cracking, carburetters wearing out, pistons burning through). I know the Humber Super Snip (what a lovely heavy beast for me to drive, double-de-clutching with no power steering for three tons of car) I 'broke' when a valve rocker snapped. There were also a knocking big end, so my father in law decided to scrape it as it was only worth £50! :'( ::)
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Think the Ensign followed on from the Vanguard, and i`m sure they used the engine in the early Triumph TR/2, great big lump of a motor.theses are all my era cars :y :D
Ensign used the basic Vanguard body shell and was fitted with a 1670cc motor. It was in fact sold as a basic model against the more up market Vanguard - the Vanguard being fitted with a detuned TR engine (1991 or 2138cc dependant on year of manufacture). A few of the last Ensigns were supplied fitted with the detuned TR4 2138cc motor.
Hope that clarifies :y
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I seem to recall my late uncle having something called a Standard Vanguard. When he sold that he bought a brand new 1965 Victor 101.
As a nipper it seemed huge to me. :y
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Well they look like well built tubs to me , worth restoring and driving tax free :-*
Yes, I think you are right there; they were well built for their time. The engines could easily break, and the bodywork would eventually rust badly, with no rustproofing as I am aware. But that was typical of all cars built in the 1950s and 1960s.
They were heavy beasts of thick steel, and that is why a number still survive. If I remember correctly from that time it was the engine that always spelt the end for those cars. I know my father in law preferred to buy old Austin Westminster's, Humber Super Snipes, and some other larger 1950s, early 1960 cars. They all died due to engine problems (big ends gone, cylinder head cracking, carburetters wearing out, pistons burning through). I know the Humber Super Snip (what a lovely heavy beast for me to drive, double-de-clutching with no power steering for three tons of car) I 'broke' when a valve rocker snapped. There were also a knocking big end, so my father in law decided to scrape it as it was only worth £50! :'( ::)
Is this the later "vasectomy model" Lizzie?. The one without any lead in it's pencil........ahem... ::) ::) ::) I mean petrol. ;)
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If I remember correctly from that time it was the engine that always spelt the end for those cars
Oh dear :( Best drop something a bit more lively into it , which is what i would do . Something like a straight 6 , upgrade the brakes and job done ... if only i could convince my back arms and legs to do such a job ::) ;D
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They did a Vanguard six from memory with the Triumph 2000 lump fitted :y
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They did a Vanguard six from memory with the Triumph 2000 lump fitted :y
Yep this 6 pot was to be later used in the Triumph 2000. In the vanguard it had all of 80bhp!!
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They did a Vanguard six from memory with the Triumph 2000 lump fitted :y
Yep this 6 pot was to be later used in the Triumph 2000. In the vanguard it had all of 80bhp!!
Up to a heady 98bhp for thr T2000 & Vitesse,104 for the mk2 Vitesse,god I want a mk 2 Vitesse,one day :-\
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They did a Vanguard six from memory with the Triumph 2000 lump fitted :y
Yep this 6 pot was to be later used in the Triumph 2000. In the vanguard it had all of 80bhp!!
Up to a heady 98bhp for thr T2000 & Vitesse,104 for the mk2 Vitesse,god I want a mk 2 Vitesse,one day :-\
You'd be better off with a TR mate ;) You know it makes sense ::)
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I like the old classic cars "thats why i bought the omega" ;D But this one really is nice STANDARD (http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/1960-STANDARD-ENSIGHN-RUNS-AND-DRIVES-EASY-RESTORATION-SOLID-RARE-CAR-/190754893877?pt=Automobiles_UK&hash=item2c69e0b035) :)
Never heard of this make , too young ::)
Is that a pipe holder, on the top of the dash, to the right of the clocks?...... :D :D
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I like the old classic cars "thats why i bought the omega" ;D But this one really is nice STANDARD (http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/1960-STANDARD-ENSIGHN-RUNS-AND-DRIVES-EASY-RESTORATION-SOLID-RARE-CAR-/190754893877?pt=Automobiles_UK&hash=item2c69e0b035) :)
Never heard of this make , too young ::)
Is that a pipe holder, on the top of the dash, to the right of the clocks?...... :D :D
;D could be :-\
And that white thing below it with the slits in it :-\
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I like the old classic cars "thats why i bought the omega" ;D But this one really is nice STANDARD (http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/1960-STANDARD-ENSIGHN-RUNS-AND-DRIVES-EASY-RESTORATION-SOLID-RARE-CAR-/190754893877?pt=Automobiles_UK&hash=item2c69e0b035) :)
Never heard of this make , too young ::)
Is that a pipe holder, on the top of the dash, to the right of the clocks?...... :D :D
;D could be :-\
And that white thing below it with the slits in it :-\
Looks to me like the handle to perhaps an ash tray or similar cubby hole, which they did not really do at that age..... :-\ :-\ :-\ My money is on an ash tray... :)
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how about this view=what most other car drivers see :y
(http://i1181.photobucket.com/albums/x429/sy427/Photobucket%20Desktop%20-%20ME-PC/blackrose015.jpg)
no slow boat ;D ;D ;D
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Well they look like well built tubs to me , worth restoring and driving tax free :-*
Yes, I think you are right there; they were well built for their time. The engines could easily break, and the bodywork would eventually rust badly, with no rustproofing as I am aware. But that was typical of all cars built in the 1950s and 1960s.
They were heavy beasts of thick steel, and that is why a number still survive. If I remember correctly from that time it was the engine that always spelt the end for those cars. I know my father in law preferred to buy old Austin Westminster's, Humber Super Snipes, and some other larger 1950s, early 1960 cars. They all died due to engine problems (big ends gone, cylinder head cracking, carburetters wearing out, pistons burning through). I know the Humber Super Snip (what a lovely heavy beast for me to drive, double-de-clutching with no power steering for three tons of car) I 'broke' when a valve rocker snapped. There were also a knocking big end, so my father in law decided to scrape it as it was only worth £50! :'( ::)
Is this the later "vasectomy model" Lizzie?. The one without any lead in it's pencil........ahem... ::) ::) ::) I mean petrol. ;)
;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D Oh dear, my typing is getting no better Opti!! ::) ::)
Yes, it should be "Snipe".....................I think?! ;D ;D ;D
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You started a great thread EMD :y :y :y
It could develop into a "Bus Nostalgia" type thread, but for all old cars pre-1970 (?)
I just love looking at all those old models, like the Standard Ensign originally shown. Takes me back to my childhood when our road had no more than three cars in it! :-* :-* :-*
How about these for the more unusual cars going around in those days:
Armstrong Whitley 6
(http://i282.photobucket.com/albums/kk247/lizziefreeman/ArmstrongWhitley6Light.jpg)
Armstrong Siddeley
(http://i282.photobucket.com/albums/kk247/lizziefreeman/ArmstrongSiddeleySapphire.jpg)
PS EMD, sorry for perhaps hijacking your thread, and I will start another one if you so wish ;)
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PS EMD, sorry for perhaps hijacking your thread, and I will start another one if you so wish
Ok with me lizzie :-* ;D A classic a classic within reason what some mite call a classic ::) ;D
I like the triumphs mainly but its only as i have owned one , its great looking and finding new cars ive never seen like the standard ensign ... pictures help too ;D :y
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PS EMD, sorry for perhaps hijacking your thread, and I will start another one if you so wish
Ok with me lizzie :-* ;D A classic a classic within reason what some mite call a classic ::) ;D
I like the triumphs mainly but its only as i have owned one , its great looking and finding new cars ive never seen like the standard ensign ... pictures help too ;D :y
Thanks EMD! :y :y
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:D :D
This the same model, a Humber Hawk, that was owned by my father in law and I drove:
(http://i282.photobucket.com/albums/kk247/lizziefreeman/humber_03.jpg)
I loved the bench seats and the solid feel to the car. The only drawback, as with so many big cars at this time, was the lack of power steering. You had instead a very big steering wheel to change the direction of 3 tons of car!
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This, the famous Ford Cortina Mk2 1600E, will always be one of my favourite cars from the late 1960s. A real classic :-* :-*
(http://i282.photobucket.com/albums/kk247/lizziefreeman/1600e1large.jpg)
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Then there is my first car, a 1960 Farina bodied Austin A40:
The one I owned was a real rust bucket on wheels, but apart from it being my first car, bought for £15, I learnt a lot of my car mechanic skills on it keeping it going after replacing the valves, piston rings, and all oil seals:
(http://i282.photobucket.com/albums/kk247/lizziefreeman/093s.jpg)
:-* :-* :-* :-* :-* :y
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This, the famous Ford Cortina Mk2 1600E, will always be one of my favourite cars from the late 1960s. A real classic :-* :-*
(http://i282.photobucket.com/albums/kk247/lizziefreeman/1600e1large.jpg)
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I had wanted one of those in my late teens , but gradually went off them and wanted a capri ;D i bought the capri for £50 that was sitting in a car park for 2 yrs , a new windscreen and brake/engine service ... flew through the MOT :o :D
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This, the famous Ford Cortina Mk2 1600E, will always be one of my favourite cars from the late 1960s. A real classic :-* :-*
(http://i282.photobucket.com/albums/kk247/lizziefreeman/1600e1large.jpg)
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I had wanted one of those in my late teens , but gradually went off them and wanted a capri ;D i bought the capri for £50 that was sitting in a car park for 2 yrs , a new windscreen and brake/engine service ... flew through the MOT :o :D
Ah yes, the sporty version of a Cortina, certainly in 1600 form! :y
The 2.8i versions that came out in the 1980s were rather special, but some how in some sectors were considered a poor mans sports car. "So what" I thought at the time, and personally admired them but never managed to even drive one.
A good example of one, a 1983 2.8i version:
(http://i282.photobucket.com/albums/kk247/lizziefreeman/Capri28i1983.jpg)
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Mine was a 1.6L :-[ but with 2.8 leaf springs , rock solid car and never welded in its life ...was the first car i attempted adjustment of valves and succeeded :) I went on to replace the 4 speed box to a cortina mk5 5 speed ....So simple mechanics , nothing like today's cars :(
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Mine was a 1.6L :-[ but with 2.8 leaf springs , rock solid car and never welded in its life ...was the first car i attempted adjustment of valves and succeeded :) I went on to replace the 4 speed box to a cortina mk5 5 speed ....So simple mechanics , nothing like today's cars :(
Yes indeed :y :y
That is what I constantly mutter about when working on the miggy ::) ::) Once it was sooooo easy to undertake car mechanics. It is the bloody electronics / sensors/ cabling that gets in the way now. :(
The 1.6 Capri's were rather nippy for their day but actually had no more performance than my 1.6 Cortina's. Just looked better! :-*
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This is similar to my last Cortina in 1980, a Cortina Estate MkV:
(http://i282.photobucket.com/albums/kk247/lizziefreeman/CortinaEstateV.jpg)
:y
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This, the famous Ford Cortina Mk2 1600E, will always be one of my favourite cars from the late 1960s. A real classic :-* :-*
(http://i282.photobucket.com/albums/kk247/lizziefreeman/1600e1large.jpg)
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I had wanted one of those in my late teens , but gradually went off them and wanted a capri ;D i bought the capri for £50 that was sitting in a car park for 2 yrs , a new windscreen and brake/engine service ... flew through the MOT :o :D
Ah yes, the sporty version of a Cortina, certainly in 1600 form! :y
The 2.8i versions that came out in the 1980s were rather special, but some how in some sectors were considered a poor mans sports car. "So what" I thought at the time, and personally admired them but never managed to even drive one.
A good example of one, a 1983 2.8i version:
(http://i282.photobucket.com/albums/kk247/lizziefreeman/Capri28i1983.jpg)
The 1600E was more the luxury version,the Gt and the Lotus ticked the sporty boxes better,still love the E though :y
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I had a white mk5 cortina with a body kit on it ;D Very enjoyable revvy engine when it went ::) Inner wings fell to bits and electrics always kept you busy ;D Loved owning that car and it kept me busy just like the omega >:( ;D
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I had a white mk5 cortina with a body kit on it ;D Very enjoyable revvy engine when it went ::) Inner wings fell to bits and electrics always kept you busy ;D Loved owning that car and it kept me busy just like the omega >:( ;D
Very nice EMD. :y I miss those cars ;)
However they were not called "Dagenham Dustbins" for nothing ;D ;D ;D ;D
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Another car i would like to own is one like THIS ONE (http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/1967-MORRIS-MINOR-BLACK-/290817556676?pt=Automobiles_UK&hash=item43b613c0c4) very appealing and simple mechanics :) Tax free of course :y
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Another car i would like to own is one like THIS ONE (http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/1967-MORRIS-MINOR-BLACK-/290817556676?pt=Automobiles_UK&hash=item43b613c0c4) very appealing and simple mechanics :) Tax free of course :y
That's a posh one .. very modern .. :)
Mine was 1952 version .. split front screen - all glass was still "flat" ... 918cc side valve engine ... vacuum wipers .. semaphore indicators ... :)
If I still had it just what would it be worth !!!! :)
Edit ... just love the way he describes the boot rack as a "rear bike rack" .... I just wonder how you'd get a bike on there !!! :)
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Another car i would like to own is one like THIS ONE (http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/1967-MORRIS-MINOR-BLACK-/290817556676?pt=Automobiles_UK&hash=item43b613c0c4) very appealing and simple mechanics :) Tax free of course :y
That's a posh one .. very modern .. :)
Mine was 1952 version .. split front screen - all glass was still "flat" ... 918cc side valve engine ... vacuum wipers .. semaphore indicators ... :)
If I still had it just what would it be worth !!!! :)
Edit ... just love the way he describes the boot rack as a "rear bike rack" .... I just wonder how you'd get a bike on there !!! :)
Was that supposed to be a picnic box rack originally :-\ Lovely condition that car :)
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Another car i would like to own is one like THIS ONE (http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/1967-MORRIS-MINOR-BLACK-/290817556676?pt=Automobiles_UK&hash=item43b613c0c4) very appealing and simple mechanics :) Tax free of course :y
That's a posh one .. very modern .. :)
Mine was 1952 version .. split front screen - all glass was still "flat" ... 918cc side valve engine ... vacuum wipers .. semaphore indicators ... :)
If I still had it just what would it be worth !!!! :)
Edit ... just love the way he describes the boot rack as a "rear bike rack" .... I just wonder how you'd get a bike on there !!! :)
Oh yes Entwood, the very classic Morris Minor :-* :-* :-*
Like this:
(http://i282.photobucket.com/albums/kk247/lizziefreeman/MorrisMinor.jpg)
With Trafficator
(http://i282.photobucket.com/albums/kk247/lizziefreeman/Trafficator.jpg)
:-*
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That's the one Lizzie .. :)
EMD .. it was just an additional storage rack ... the boot was not that big, so suitcase or picnic box, or whatever, went on them.
I fitted one to my MGB Roadster as the boot on that was useless !! :)
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And here Entwood is an example of a Morris Minor (1000cc) engine.
What beautiful simplicity:
(http://i282.photobucket.com/albums/kk247/lizziefreeman/MorrisMinorEngine.jpg)
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That's the one Lizzie .. :)
EMD .. it was just an additional storage rack ... the boot was not that big, so suitcase or picnic box, or whatever, went on them.
I fitted one to my MGB Roadster as the boot on that was useless !! :)
Yes, so many were small then. Was it due to them being in an era of non-major shopping? Before the supermarkets came our mothers brought small amounts regularly from the numerous local shops, and often on foot (no car!). Those boots I believe were just designed for casual loads like a small picnic or spare petrol, tools, etc. Even holidays away were rare, and that is where the roof rack really came into its own as you rightly point out Entwood. ;)
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And here Entwood is an example of a Morris Minor (1000cc) engine.
What beautiful simplicity:
(http://i282.photobucket.com/albums/kk247/lizziefreeman/MorrisMinorEngine.jpg)
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Far too technical .. the side valve one was even smaller !!!
http://seriesmm.mmoc.org.uk/Features/Mazengarb.htm
Although it was "tweakable" .. but the conversion kit would have cost the same as the car cost me !!
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And here Entwood is an example of a Morris Minor (1000cc) engine.
What beautiful simplicity:
(http://i282.photobucket.com/albums/kk247/lizziefreeman/MorrisMinorEngine.jpg)
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Far too technical .. the side valve one was even smaller !!!
http://seriesmm.mmoc.org.uk/Features/Mazengarb.htm
Ah yes, the sidevalves, with such long pushrods that could be bent so easily :D ;)
Those carbs on those conversions! ;D ;D ;D
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I posted in the wrong section ;D :-[ :-[ :-[
This delivered fresh bread to us
(http://i219.photobucket.com/albums/cc41/milleblack/1456968.jpg)
So easy to work on and enough space for a battery on the scuttle ::)
(http://i219.photobucket.com/albums/cc41/milleblack/1456974.jpg)
Must type faster ;D
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I posted in the wrong section ;D :-[ :-[ :-[
This delivered fresh bread to us
(http://i219.photobucket.com/albums/cc41/milleblack/1456968.jpg)
Great memories there :-* :-*
I love the other example of the simple engine that was in these, as posted in the Safety First thread :y
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If anyone posts a picture of a Riley Elf Lizzie will faint. ;D ;D ;)
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If anyone posts a picture of a Riley Elf Lizzie will faint. ;D ;D ;)
...............or a Wolsley Hornet III Opti! ;D ;D ;D ;)
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If anyone posts a picture of a Riley Elf Lizzie will faint. ;D ;D ;)
Never had an "Elf" .. but did have a Hillman Imp for a while, until it got bent around a tree, that's when I learned that it was best to uprate the brakes whenever you did something silly to an engine .... "stopping" is just as important as "going" ... but I was young and foolish then .... as against old and foolish now !!
:)
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If anyone posts a picture of a Riley Elf Lizzie will faint. ;D ;D ;)
...............or a Wolsley Hornet III Opti! ;D ;D ;D ;)
Like this:
(http://i282.photobucket.com/albums/kk247/lizziefreeman/WolseleyHornetIII.jpg)
this is exactly like yet another car in our collection in the 1980s. A 1968 registration.
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If anyone posts a picture of a Riley Elf Lizzie will faint. ;D ;D ;)
Never had an "Elf" .. but did have a Hillman Imp for a while, until it got bent around a tree, that's when I learned that it was best to uprate the brakes whenever you did something silly to an engine .... "stopping" is just as important as "going" ... but I was young and foolish then .... as against old and foolish now !!
:)
The 'pretender' which tried to take sales away from the Mini; some chance! ;D ;D ;D
(http://i282.photobucket.com/albums/kk247/lizziefreeman/HillmanImp.jpg)
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If anyone posts a picture of a Riley Elf Lizzie will faint. ;D ;D ;)
...............or a Wolsley Hornet III Opti! ;D ;D ;D ;)
Like this:
(http://i282.photobucket.com/albums/kk247/lizziefreeman/WolseleyHornetIII.jpg)
this is exactly like yet another car in our collection in the 1980s. A 1968 registration.
Oh dear. Sadly not all crushed yet. ::) ::) ;)
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If anyone posts a picture of a Riley Elf Lizzie will faint. ;D ;D ;)
...............or a Wolsley Hornet III Opti! ;D ;D ;D ;)
Like this:
(http://i282.photobucket.com/albums/kk247/lizziefreeman/WolseleyHornetIII.jpg)
this is exactly like yet another car in our collection in the 1980s. A 1968 registration.
Oh dear. Sadly not all crushed yet. ::) ::) ;)
Leave the poor little cars alone Opti. They were lovely, and I would love one now! ;D ;D ;D
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If anyone posts a picture of a Riley Elf Lizzie will faint. ;D ;D ;)
Never had an "Elf" .. but did have a Hillman Imp for a while, until it got bent around a tree, that's when I learned that it was best to uprate the brakes whenever you did something silly to an engine .... "stopping" is just as important as "going" ... but I was young and foolish then .... as against old and foolish now !!
:)
I remember when I was young(ish) and had a Morris 1100 that I couldn't start,I was going off on one and my dear old Granpa said to me"a car you can't start is better than one you can't stop",wise words although totally lost on me at the time :-X
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And here Entwood is an example of a Morris Minor (1000cc) engine.
What beautiful simplicity:
:y :y :y
Far too technical .. the side valve one was even smaller !!!
http://seriesmm.mmoc.org.uk/Features/Mazengarb.htm
Although it was "tweakable" .. but the conversion kit would have cost the same as the car cost me !!
Tweakable - the MGB engine and box fits ok :y
Or if you are talking the 1952 car the 1500cc B series came out in the Morris Oxford in '54 :y
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And here Entwood is an example of a Morris Minor (1000cc) engine.
What beautiful simplicity:
:y :y :y
Far too technical .. the side valve one was even smaller !!!
http://seriesmm.mmoc.org.uk/Features/Mazengarb.htm
Although it was "tweakable" .. but the conversion kit would have cost the same as the car cost me !!
Tweakable - the MGB engine and box fits ok :y
I don't think the MGB had even been thought of then !!! As for an 1800cc overhead cam engine .. that was F1 territory !!
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And here Entwood is an example of a Morris Minor (1000cc) engine.
What beautiful simplicity:
:y :y :y
Far too technical .. the side valve one was even smaller !!!
http://seriesmm.mmoc.org.uk/Features/Mazengarb.htm
Although it was "tweakable" .. but the conversion kit would have cost the same as the car cost me !!
Tweakable - the MGB engine and box fits ok :y
I don't think the MGB had even been thought of then !!! As for an 1800cc overhead cam engine .. that was F1 territory !!
Yes, those cam rods again! ::) ::) :D
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And here Entwood is an example of a Morris Minor (1000cc) engine.
What beautiful simplicity:
:y :y :y
Far too technical .. the side valve one was even smaller !!!
http://seriesmm.mmoc.org.uk/Features/Mazengarb.htm
Although it was "tweakable" .. but the conversion kit would have cost the same as the car cost me !!
Tweakable - the MGB engine and box fits ok :y
I don't think the MGB had even been thought of then !!! As for an 1800cc overhead cam engine .. that was F1 territory !!
Yep - modified my post above - 1954 1.5Lit B series and box from Morris Oxford :y
B series MGB was not overhead cam!! ::)
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And here Entwood is an example of a Morris Minor (1000cc) engine.
What beautiful simplicity:
:y :y :y
Far too technical .. the side valve one was even smaller !!!
http://seriesmm.mmoc.org.uk/Features/Mazengarb.htm
Although it was "tweakable" .. but the conversion kit would have cost the same as the car cost me !!
Tweakable - the MGB engine and box fits ok :y
I don't think the MGB had even been thought of then !!! As for an 1800cc overhead cam engine .. that was F1 territory !!
Yep - modified my post above - 1954 1.5Lit B series and box from Morris Oxford :y
B series MGB was not overhead cam!! ::)
The great family car the Morris Oxford of the 1960s. My father had one of these, nearly new as his first car in 1966; reg AOU 772C. :-*
(http://i282.photobucket.com/albums/kk247/lizziefreeman/MorrisOxford.jpg)
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This was taken at p6 national rally in August-mine is nearest-it won award for best of day :y
(http://i1181.photobucket.com/albums/x429/sy427/roverrally2012071.jpg)
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These took my fancy as well , the old dolly sprint which the cops used ;D
(http://i219.photobucket.com/albums/cc41/milleblack/lmao.jpg)
Seem to recall overheating issues that put me off buying one years ago :-\
(http://i219.photobucket.com/albums/cc41/milleblack/800px-Triumph_Dolomite_Sprint.jpg)
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I remember the ads for the dolly sprint when they first appeared in about 1973. It went something along the lines of....."What's yellow and black and laps Mira at 116mph?
Answer. The brand new Triumph Dolomite sprint. :y
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This was taken at p6 national rally in August-mine is nearest-it won award for best of day :y
(http://i1181.photobucket.com/albums/x429/sy427/roverrally2012071.jpg)
That is a great sight Symes! 8) 8) 8) 8)
I personally always liked the V8 3.5 version, which I see is represented in the picture, but I know at the time many of these Rovers suffered breakdowns. Still loved them though :-*
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Still like the Mk1 cortina , my friend had one back in the 80s that we use to drive around in . The memories of that car still stick with me :)
(http://i219.photobucket.com/albums/cc41/milleblack/cortina-mark1.jpg)
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Luverly :)
Had a couple of those ...and WHY, just WHY, did we all put so many spotlights on the front ?? :) I know on one of mine if you out ALL the lights on the battery light would be on even at 4000 rpm !!, and a mate who put 8 Cibie's on had the main wiring from the battery start to melt !! :)
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....I know on one of mine if you out ALL the lights on the battery light would be on even at 4000 rpm !!, and a mate who put 8 Cibie's on had the main wiring from the battery start to melt !! :)
Weren't dynamos great! ::) ;D ;D
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Luverly :)
Had a couple of those ...and WHY, just WHY, did we all put so many spotlights on the front ?? :) I know on one of mine if you out ALL the lights on the battery light would be on even at 4000 rpm !!, and a mate who put 8 Cibie's on had the main wiring from the battery start to melt !! :)
Never seen those angled like that on the picture above though , i had them on my Mk2 escort estate :)
(http://i219.photobucket.com/albums/cc41/milleblack/AJWEscort2.jpg)
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Still like the Mk1 cortina , my friend had one back in the 80s that we use to drive around in . The memories of that car still stick with me :)
(http://i219.photobucket.com/albums/cc41/milleblack/cortina-mark1.jpg)
I loved the Lotus Cortina Mk1. To see the Lotus badge was always special on a basic mass production car, but one uprated for motor sport. :y :y
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Luverly :)
Had a couple of those ...and WHY, just WHY, did we all put so many spotlights on the front ?? :) I know on one of mine if you out ALL the lights on the battery light would be on even at 4000 rpm !!, and a mate who put 8 Cibie's on had the main wiring from the battery start to melt !! :)
Never seen those angled like that on the picture above though , i had them on my Mk2 escort estate :)
(http://i219.photobucket.com/albums/cc41/milleblack/AJWEscort2.jpg)
That 2 door version of the Mk1 Escort Estate I thought was rather appealing to the eye, with the large, well formed, rear window. :y
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ahh yes .. lotus cortina .... mmmm mate had one that he managed to spin, rear end a wall, bounce down a culvert, smash the rear axle, but the rest of it was hardly damaged. So I gave him £50 for the engine and gearbox .. and we fitted it to my standard 1300 .....except we kept the 1300 diff and drive shafts ........ :)
Top speed wasn't very good, but the acceleration was immense :)..... Until the day I was on a rally in Wales when one of the drive shafts decided it had had enough ... snapped at a most inopportune moment ... I'd just dropped it into 3rd, power down and semi-drifting around a corner, when ... BANG and all the drive went to this flailing piece of metal under the back end .... I ended up nicely wrapped around a tree .... :(
Moral of the tale ... DON't mix high performance, powerful bits of kit with bog standard lowly family saloon parts ...... they don't like it and will tell you so ... dramatically !!
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ahh yes .. lotus cortina .... mmmm mate had one that he managed to spin, rear end a wall, bounce down a culvert, smash the rear axle, but the rest of it was hardly damaged. So I gave him £50 for the engine and gearbox .. and we fitted it to my standard 1300 .....except we kept the 1300 diff and drive shafts ........ :)
Top speed wasn't very good, but the acceleration was immense :)..... Until the day I was on a rally in Wales when one of the drive shafts decided it had had enough ... snapped at a most inopportune moment ... I'd just dropped it into 3rd, power down and semi-drifting around a corner, when ... BANG and all the drive went to this flailing piece of metal under the back end .... I ended up nicely wrapped around a tree .... :(
Moral of the tale ... DON't mix high performance, powerful bits of kit with bog standard lowly family saloon parts ...... they don't like it and will tell you so ... dramatically !!
Yep, with the infamous Ford's rigid axle that they hung onto for too long, the drive shafts were a definite weakness. The times I knew of Ford's losing them. :P
Anyway, to bring back great memories Entwood here is the beast, but without all the untidy front lights they gained later when being raced out not!
(http://i282.photobucket.com/albums/kk247/lizziefreeman/LotusCortinaMk1.jpg)
After modification to rally mode:
(http://i282.photobucket.com/albums/kk247/lizziefreeman/LotusCortinaMk1WithFogs.jpg)
:y :y
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.........................and talking about Lotus:
A Lotus Carlton
(http://i282.photobucket.com/albums/kk247/lizziefreeman/lotus_carlton.jpg)
:-* :-* :y
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One of the best Classics, in my mind, is still the Vauxhall Cresta PA:
(http://i282.photobucket.com/albums/kk247/lizziefreeman/VxCrestaPA.jpg)
:-* :-* :-* :-* :-*
I have admired them since I was a child, but never actually rode in one! :'( :'(
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I sense some American influence here, Lizzie. Wings and fins. :y
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Yep, with the infamous Ford's rigid axle that they hung onto for too long, the drive shafts were a definite weakness. The times I knew of Ford's losing them. :P
Anyway, to bring back great memories Entwood here is the beast, but without all the untidy front lights they gained later when being raced out not!
They're hardly weak, considering the small, 'English' axle, will take 100hp more than it was intended to in a lightweight car. There's no point in considering changing one in an Escort, Anglia, or Prefect unless you're making nearly 200hp. It will do that with stock halfshafts and diff. The only reason to change an English axle in a Capri is that the Atlas is a bolt in. Hardly surprising, as that was its original home. And an Atlas will easily handle over 300hp with no more than a rebuild. It's the basis for most European Ford high performance axles.
If you want weak axles, then you've already posted pics of cars that suffer from them: Morris Minors! It's the second thing to upgrade if you add a bit more power. Even a healthy 1300 will snap half shafts, and the diff isn't much stronger.
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Victor with tin tent , i dont recall these at any point :-\
(http://i219.photobucket.com/albums/cc41/milleblack/victor12.jpg)
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I sense some American influence here, Lizzie. Wings and fins. :y
Oh yes Opti! :y
I love America and it's people, and American cars from the 1950/1960 era. Among my passions is a pink 1960 Cadillac and a 1958 black Chevrolet Impala like this:
(http://i282.photobucket.com/albums/kk247/lizziefreeman/CheviImpala.jpg)
(http://i282.photobucket.com/albums/kk247/lizziefreeman/CheviImpalaRear.jpg)
Corrrrrrr what a car!! :-* :-* :-* :-* :-* :-* 8)
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Yep, with the infamous Ford's rigid axle that they hung onto for too long, the drive shafts were a definite weakness. The times I knew of Ford's losing them. :P
Anyway, to bring back great memories Entwood here is the beast, but without all the untidy front lights they gained later when being raced out not!
They're hardly weak, considering the small, 'English' axle, will take 100hp more than it was intended to in a lightweight car. There's no point in considering changing one in an Escort, Anglia, or Prefect unless you're making nearly 200hp. It will do that with stock halfshafts and diff. The only reason to change an English axle in a Capri is that the Atlas is a bolt in. Hardly surprising, as that was its original home. And an Atlas will easily handle over 300hp with no more than a rebuild. It's the basis for most European Ford high performance axles.
If you want weak axles, then you've already posted pics of cars that suffer from them: Morris Minors! It's the second thing to upgrade if you add a bit more power. Even a healthy 1300 will snap half shafts, and the diff isn't much stronger.
I remember Nick that in the 1960s and 70s they were often at the side of the road with collapsed front struts, either with the nearside or offside gone.
In regards to the Ford rigid axles, the motoring critics in the 1970s often wrote about that company continuing to build cars, like the Escort's, Cortina's and Granada's with "crude, old fashioned rigid axles" and leaf springs. It was considered by us who drove them on business, clocking up a lot of miles, that the handling would have been a lot better with "modern" suspension systems. Ford stuck with a system of suspension and transmission that dated right back to the Model T and was well past it's sell by date in the late 1960s/70s. :)
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Victor with tin tent , i dont recall these at any point :-\
(http://i219.photobucket.com/albums/cc41/milleblack/victor12.jpg)
I am afraid I do EMD! :( :(
I remember riding in a brand new Victor in 1960, a car belonging to a friend of my Dad's. In fact throughout 1960 and 1961 I went in that car, a very big novelty for me at the time, many times, and I loved it. :y :y
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Yep, with the infamous Ford's rigid axle that they hung onto for too long, the drive shafts were a definite weakness. The times I knew of Ford's losing them. :P
Anyway, to bring back great memories Entwood here is the beast, but without all the untidy front lights they gained later when being raced out not!
I remember Nick that in the 1960s and 70s they were often at the side of the road with collapsed front struts, either with the nearside or offside gone.
In regards to the Ford rigid axles, the motoring critics in the 1970s often wrote about that company continuing to build cars, like the Escort's, Cortina's and Granada's with "crude, old fashioned rigid axles" and leaf springs. It was considered by us who drove them on business, clocking up a lot of miles, that the handling would have been a lot better with "modern" suspension systems. Ford stuck with a system of suspension and transmission that dated right back to the Model T and was well past it's sell by date in the late 1960s/70s. :)
I've welded plenty of strut top-mounts, and that's not restricted to Fords. We've recently removed 30 years worth of 'repairs' from the inner wings of a mk1 Escort a mate had whilst we were at school(and we left 24 years ago!) that had 8 patches on one side, and 7 on the other. The bottom ones were brazed on, and that hasn't been legal for years.
Granadas always had semi-trailing arm rear suspensions, just like BMWs and Mercs of similar ages. Or even late Omegas. It was only mk3 Granadas that went to strut front ends, the earlier ones had a decent double wishbone setup. They still ride and handle pretty well today. Actually, most modern cars have such a hard ride that wouldn't be difficult! My mother's Focus rides worse than the leaf sprung, live axled 2.8i Capri I had when she got it. I can't say it handles any better either, but then I like Capris. I've had 10 of the things.
Mk3 onward Cortinas don't have leaf sprung axles, but use an angled 4 link coil sprung setup(called a Satchell link), just like Avengers, Dolomites, numerous Fiats etc. These might ride a bit better when new, but introduce the interesting problem of knackered suspension bushes, something I remember Cortinas suffering from, and also have experience of in Sunbeams, Avengers and Dolomites. The late mk5 Cortina I paid £25 for 12 years ago was stable and comfortable on the motorway, and out-handled a 325 BMW on the Manor Royal roundabout every morning for 5 months!
Model Ts have an entirely different driveline; a single transverse leaf spring at each end, located by a wishbone with a single pivot near the gearbox. They work really well on the unmetalled, rutted roads common when the car was designed. Even Ford stopped using such suspension in the forties!
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Rover P5B convertible :-*, first one ive seen with rag top :o
(http://i219.photobucket.com/albums/cc41/milleblack/P5BROVER.jpg)
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Yep, with the infamous Ford's rigid axle that they hung onto for too long, the drive shafts were a definite weakness. The times I knew of Ford's losing them. :P
Anyway, to bring back great memories Entwood here is the beast, but without all the untidy front lights they gained later when being raced out not!
I remember Nick that in the 1960s and 70s they were often at the side of the road with collapsed front struts, either with the nearside or offside gone.
In regards to the Ford rigid axles, the motoring critics in the 1970s often wrote about that company continuing to build cars, like the Escort's, Cortina's and Granada's with "crude, old fashioned rigid axles" and leaf springs. It was considered by us who drove them on business, clocking up a lot of miles, that the handling would have been a lot better with "modern" suspension systems. Ford stuck with a system of suspension and transmission that dated right back to the Model T and was well past it's sell by date in the late 1960s/70s. :)
I've welded plenty of strut top-mounts, and that's not restricted to Fords. We've recently removed 30 years worth of 'repairs' from the inner wings of a mk1 Escort a mate had whilst we were at school(and we left 24 years ago!) that had 8 patches on one side, and 7 on the other. The bottom ones were brazed on, and that hasn't been legal for years.
Granadas always had semi-trailing arm rear suspensions, just like BMWs and Mercs of similar ages. Or even late Omegas. It was only mk3 Granadas that went to strut front ends, the earlier ones had a decent double wishbone setup. They still ride and handle pretty well today. Actually, most modern cars have such a hard ride that wouldn't be difficult! My mother's Focus rides worse than the leaf sprung, live axled 2.8i Capri I had when she got it. I can't say it handles any better either, but then I like Capris. I've had 10 of the things.
Mk3 onward Cortinas don't have leaf sprung axles, but use an angled 4 link coil sprung setup(called a Satchell link), just like Avengers, Dolomites, numerous Fiats etc. These might ride a bit better when new, but introduce the interesting problem of knackered suspension bushes, something I remember Cortinas suffering from, and also have experience of in Sunbeams, Avengers and Dolomites. The late mk5 Cortina I paid £25 for 12 years ago was stable and comfortable on the motorway, and out-handled a 325 BMW on the Manor Royal roundabout every morning for 5 months!
Model Ts have an entirely different driveline; a single transverse leaf spring at each end, located by a wishbone with a single pivot near the gearbox. They work really well on the unmetalled, rutted roads common when the car was designed. Even Ford stopped using such suspension in the forties!
Thanks Nick! :y :y
That is great information from someone who obviously knows about these things. This is what I love about cars, I never stop learning about the true technicalities of them, and when it is about the old cars we love, it is even of greater interest.
I have learn't something again Nick :-* :-* :y :y :y :y
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Rover P5B convertible :-*, first one ive seen with rag top :o
(http://i219.photobucket.com/albums/cc41/milleblack/P5BROVER.jpg)
Yes they are another love of mine, being a truly heavy British car that was luxurious at the time, well to me anyway!! :D Is that shown the big engined, 3.5 ltr, example? :( I know there is a way you can tell, but I have now forgotten how! ::)
I always watch the series George Gently on BBC because it is a great programme with a lovely key actor, but also for the old cars, including George's Rover. :-* :-* :-* :-*
When you think how Rover ended up, it is so sad, making unimpressive faceless cars. :'( :'( :'(
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..............and going back to my dream American cars, the muscle example of all time, well for me:
The 1968 Ford Mustang Fastback (with Steve McQueen!! :-* :-* :-*):
(http://i282.photobucket.com/albums/kk247/lizziefreeman/FordMustang1968.jpg)
(http://i282.photobucket.com/albums/kk247/lizziefreeman/SteveMcQueenFordMustang.jpg)
:y :y
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.............and after my discussion with Nick about the Ford Model T, well on the American theme here is one that was apparently the "Sports Tourer" version!! LOL ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D:
(http://i282.photobucket.com/albums/kk247/lizziefreeman/FordModelTSportsTourer.jpg)
;D ;D ;D
I once knew someone who was restoring an early example and I seem to remember it had just one cylinder, in, to us now, a very basic engine ;)
STOP PRESS Just done some research, and the Model T engine was like this; a bit bigger than a one cylinder engine!
(http://i282.photobucket.com/albums/kk247/lizziefreeman/ModelTEngine.jpg)
Now that leaves me with a mystery. What was the one cylinder engine I saw, or thought I saw, still in the chassis of, what I understood, a Model T???? Anyone???? ??? ??? ??? ???
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If memory serves he drove a 390GT ( as well as a Ford Puma) ::) ::) ;). I believe that 390 cubic inches equates to roughly six point something litres. :y. Very nice.
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Rover P5B convertible :-*, first one ive seen with rag top :o
(http://i219.photobucket.com/albums/cc41/milleblack/P5BROVER.jpg)
Yes they are another love of mine, being a truly heavy British car that was luxurious at the time, well to me anyway!! :D Is that shown the big engined, 3.5 ltr, example? :( I know there is a way you can tell, but I have now forgotten how! ::)
I always watch the series George Gently on BBC because it is a great programme with a lovely key actor, but also for the old cars, including George's Rover. :-* :-* :-* :-*
When you think how Rover ended up, it is so sad, making unimpressive faceless cars. :'( :'( :'(
And set in Gods Country, the North East and in places that I remember from my childhood.... :y :y
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I just couldn't resist showing another Rover P5B 3.5 V8:
(http://i282.photobucket.com/albums/kk247/lizziefreeman/Rover35VP5B.jpg)
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I just love them. I may buy one some day! :D :D ;)
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Then you have the earlier experimental Rover, the 1950 JET1, a turbine powered car:
(http://i282.photobucket.com/albums/kk247/lizziefreeman/RoverJET1.jpg)
(http://i282.photobucket.com/albums/kk247/lizziefreeman/RoverJET1Car.jpg)
:) :y
It could accelerate 0-60 in 14 seconds, and top speed recorded was 90mph! ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
My miggy certainly does better than those figures :D ;)
http://news.bbc.co.uk/onthisday/hi/dates/stories/march/8/newsid_2516000/2516271.stm
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Thats probably one older car i do remember , wonder how many can make out what that is at the side of it behind the pillar :-\ No i dont know either ;D
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Thats probably one older car i do remember , wonder how many can make out what that is at the side of it behind the pillar :-\ No i dont know either ;D
It is only a guess, but could it be a Fiat? ;)
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I must complete the Rover theme with the 1960s P5 3.0 litre version:
(http://i282.photobucket.com/albums/kk247/lizziefreeman/Trains%20Planes%20Buses%20%20Cars/rover_p5saloon_left_1.jpg)
Trust me, but I think the V8 P5B must get my vote. 8)
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To change the theme slightly, my all time favourite classic car; the 1912 Rolls Royce Silver Ghost :
(http://i282.photobucket.com/albums/kk247/lizziefreeman/Trains%20Planes%20Buses%20%20Cars/SilverGhost.jpg)
What a beautiful car that apparently, according to my Great Uncle Bill who drove one as a chauffeur for Lord and Lady Pilkington, just purred along with a very very quiet engine.
Beauty Personified! 8) 8) 8) 8)
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I just couldn't resist showing another Rover P5B 3.5 V8:
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You forgot the 'Coupe' ....... ;) ;)
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I must complete the Rover theme with the 1960s P5 3.0 litre version:
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saloon ;) ;)
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(http://i282.photobucket.com/albums/kk247/lizziefreeman/Rover35V8P5BCoupe.jpg)
Well for you Andy this is the 3.5 V8 P5B Coupe, but I must say it looks soooooo similar to the previous saloon shown! :D :D
Worth showing though as I just love them :-* :-*
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Well I am getting confused now Andy!! ;D ;D ;D ;D
THIS is the Rover 4 door 3.5 V8 P5B Saloon:
(http://i282.photobucket.com/albums/kk247/lizziefreeman/Rover35V8P5BSaloon.jpg)
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This one was for sale at £14,995, and I would pay it if I had the cash! 8) 8)
(http://i282.photobucket.com/albums/kk247/lizziefreeman/Rover35V8P5BsaloonFS.jpg)
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Rover P5B convertible :-*, first one ive seen with rag top :o
(http://i219.photobucket.com/albums/cc41/milleblack/P5BROVER.jpg)
You can tell a lot of work has gone into making this convertible. The doors have been lengthened along with the trim on them.
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Well I am getting confused now Andy!! ;D ;D ;D ;D ...
Whether they are early cars or later V8s with the built in fog lamps, the easiest way to tell a coupe from a saloon is that the coupe has a parallel quarter light & the saloon has a triangular quarter light. Roof lines on a coupe are lower at the back but are only obvious when the two cars are next to each other. :y :y
(http://www.carandclassic.co.uk/uploads/cars/rover/878304.jpg)
(http://www.carandclassic.co.uk/uploads/cars/rover/2916477.jpg)
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Aye , got to admit have liked these cars for some time :)
Built like tanks ..
(http://i219.photobucket.com/albums/cc41/milleblack/GScotlandSeptember31.jpg)
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Well I am getting confused now Andy!! ;D ;D ;D ;D ...
Whether they are early cars or later V8s with the built in fog lamps, the easiest way to tell a coupe from a saloon is that the coupe has a parallel quarter light & the saloon has a triangular quarter light. Roof lines on a coupe are lower at the back but are only obvious when the two cars are next to each other. :y :y
(http://www.carandclassic.co.uk/uploads/cars/rover/878304.jpg)
(http://www.carandclassic.co.uk/uploads/cars/rover/2916477.jpg)
Thanks Andy :y
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Aye , got to admit have liked these cars for some time :)
Built like tanks ..
(http://i219.photobucket.com/albums/cc41/milleblack/GScotlandSeptember31.jpg)
Beautiful in all respects EMD!! :-* :-* :-* :-* :y
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How about a P5 motorhome?
(http://i1181.photobucket.com/albums/x429/sy427/nec2006123.jpg)
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How about a P5 motorhome?
(http://i1181.photobucket.com/albums/x429/sy427/nec2006123.jpg)
Well that is different! :o :o 8) 8)
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How about a P5 motorhome?
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Seen that one too at the NEC a few years back. Someone needed shooting doing that to a P5B V8 coupe
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How about a P5 motorhome?
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Seen that one too at the NEC a few years back. Someone needed shooting doing that to a P5B V8 coupe
Could'nt make handling any worse though eh ;D ;D
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Could'nt make handling any worse though eh ;D ;D
Can't see why you'd want a 35 cwt car to be able to be flung around corners. ;)
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to be honest p5 handles worse than p6 yet p6 was meant to replace the p5 but did'nt? and P6 first car to win a safety award due to inbuilt safety features
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This is how the P6 looked in 1958 – David Bache had already decided on the sloping roofline and distinctive window contours. The front end would come under serious scrutiny, not least from upper management.
:o
(http://i219.photobucket.com/albums/cc41/milleblack/p6_05.jpg)
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Yes but then came T4 turbine-front wheel drive did 150mph on test track :y This is nearest for runner to P6-bodywise
(http://i1181.photobucket.com/albums/x429/sy427/images2.jpg)
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Oooer that looks very similar to a
citroen :-\
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It was meant to compete technically yo the DS
Citenro
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you can see how rear is very similar between T4 and P6
T4
(http://i1181.photobucket.com/albums/x429/sy427/download1-1.jpg)
P6 -ok its mine but see what I mean
(http://i1181.photobucket.com/albums/x429/sy427/Photobucket%20Desktop%20-%20ME-PC/blackrose015.jpg)
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Yes but then came T4 turbine-front wheel drive did 150mph on test track :y This is nearest for runner to P6-bodywise
(http://i1181.photobucket.com/albums/x429/sy427/images2.jpg)
Never seen that one before!
It looks rather appealing for the 1970s market, or even for a later one. Shame it never came into production. :(
Was that down to technical problems with the turbine? ???
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you can see how rear is very similar between T4 and P6
T4
(http://i1181.photobucket.com/albums/x429/sy427/download1-1.jpg)
P6 -ok its mine but see what I mean
(http://i1181.photobucket.com/albums/x429/sy427/Photobucket%20Desktop%20-%20ME-PC/blackrose015.jpg)
They are similar! 8)
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Nice chrome hub caps to polish with some chrome cleaner , that stuff stinks but does a good job ;D
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Yes but then came T4 turbine-front wheel drive did 150mph on test track :y This is nearest for runner to P6-bodywise
(http://i1181.photobucket.com/albums/x429/sy427/images2.jpg)
Never seen that one before!
It looks rather appealing for the 1970s market, or even for a later one. Shame it never came into production. :(
Was that down to technical problems with the turbine? ???
built in 1960 an d fuel economy also anything behind it got scorched by exhaust!!! IT is a jet engine and was put into Avro Vulcun bombers as a generator unit
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Yes but then came T4 turbine-front wheel drive did 150mph on test track :y This is nearest for runner to P6-bodywise
(http://i1181.photobucket.com/albums/x429/sy427/images2.jpg)
Never seen that one before!
It looks rather appealing for the 1970s market, or even for a later one. Shame it never came into production. :(
Was that down to technical problems with the turbine? ???
built in 1960 an d fuel economy also anything behind it got scorched by exhaust!!! IT is a jet engine and was put into Avro Vulcun bombers as a generator unit
That was early then! :o :o I should have guessed from it's pre-1963 reg. ::) ::) :-[
Now that would be some car; A Rover Vulcan Jet! 8) 8) 8) :D
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If you go to Gaydon Heritage Museum they have T4 there and several other rover turbine cars :y :y
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If you go to Gaydon Heritage Museum they have T4 there and several other rover turbine cars :y :y
You do wonder Symes why Rover, after developing and testing turbine Rovers since 1950, didn't go for a full production version.
Apart from land speed record cars, is there a turbine road car out there? :(
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Chrysler made A load 1962-1964 but consumption was an issue so here you go 1962 Turbine
(http://i1181.photobucket.com/albums/x429/sy427/download2.jpg)
(http://i1181.photobucket.com/albums/x429/sy427/download3.jpg)
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Very ugly car, but I love the turbine principle. :y :y
As ugly as this Ford Edsel
(http://i282.photobucket.com/albums/kk247/lizziefreeman/Ford-Edsel-Citation-Convertible-195.jpg)
:D :D :D ;)
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As ugly as this Ford Edsel
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I've started to quite like the Edsel .......... they're that ugly, they're good looking! ;D ;D ;D
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Thats a 1959 Edsel :y :y :y :y :y :y I love them and the 1959 Skyliner
(http://i1181.photobucket.com/albums/x429/sy427/images3.jpg)
(http://i1181.photobucket.com/albums/x429/sy427/images4.jpg)
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Well i never :o
(http://i219.photobucket.com/albums/cc41/milleblack/0.jpg)
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Thats a 1959 Edsel :y :y :y :y :y :y I love them and the 1959 Skyliner
(http://i1181.photobucket.com/albums/x429/sy427/images3.jpg)
(http://i1181.photobucket.com/albums/x429/sy427/images4.jpg)
Now that version I do like :-* :-* :y
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Pick your viva ;D You were spoilt for choice in them days ::)
(http://i219.photobucket.com/albums/cc41/milleblack/5100451514_0a5306413c_o.jpg)
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Pick your viva ;D You were spoilt for choice in them days ::)
(http://i219.photobucket.com/albums/cc41/milleblack/5100451514_0a5306413c_o.jpg)
Sorry EMD but whenever I see "Viva's" I think rust.............lots of it in the wings.......everywhere.
I know many would argue that, but I did see so many like it when I drove around in my gleaming new Ford Escort Mk1 in 1972. ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;)
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The Viva GT from the late sixties had a 2 litre lump to help it along. Went pretty well, I think. :y
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The SDI , another favorite ... the garage just got bigger ;D
(http://i219.photobucket.com/albums/cc41/milleblack/rover-sd1-05.jpg)
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The SDI , another favorite ... the garage just got bigger ;D
(http://i219.photobucket.com/albums/cc41/milleblack/rover-sd1-05.jpg)
I know were theres a twin plenum for sale ;)
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Another favorite i forgot about is the 121 :-*
(http://i219.photobucket.com/albums/cc41/milleblack/121volvo.jpg)