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NCDC 2013 Radio safe ?
« on: 10 December 2011, 23:17:06 »

Just wired my headunit/screen/amp/speakers up and connected them to 12v supply in order to attempt to test the system.While Im happy to report that the previous problem of no volume control,due to front panel not put back correctly has been cured,I cant test much in the way of functionality due to "radio safe" message on screen.
I thought these didnt require a code etc. as long as the screen and HU were kept together.I did have the HU connected and working before the screen. Have I inadvertently disconnected on from the other ? :-\ :'(
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Re: NCDC 2013 Radio safe ?
« Reply #1 on: 11 December 2011, 11:16:25 »

Can only suggest to check all of the lives and earths are present on the bench

Strange one indeed !!

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Re: NCDC 2013 Radio safe ?
« Reply #2 on: 11 December 2011, 14:07:26 »

There were plenty of spare wires hanging around Dave. :y ;D......dont think any of them were Red or brown though so I didntconnect them to anything. :-[
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Re: NCDC 2013 Radio safe ?
« Reply #3 on: 11 December 2011, 22:31:45 »

Anyone have definitive info on what to connect in order to test (as far as is possible) that all is well please ?
Tia. :y

Im guessing TB or VXLV6 would be the chaps with the relevant answers ?
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Re: NCDC 2013 Radio safe ?
« Reply #4 on: 12 December 2011, 17:52:21 »

Are you sure you have connected up the CANL and CANH pins across all of the devices?

HU pin 32 to Screen pin 10 (Green wire)
HU pin 33 to Screen pin 11 (White wire - occasionally Yellow)
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Re: NCDC 2013 Radio safe ?
« Reply #5 on: 12 December 2011, 21:20:36 »

Not sure at all tbh. :-[ ::)
Although,the loom which goes to the screen plug has never been disturbed.Would that mean HU to screen is properly connected ?
« Last Edit: 12 December 2011, 21:22:34 by Albs »
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Re: NCDC 2013 Radio safe ?
« Reply #6 on: 19 December 2011, 20:27:36 »

Any more ideas on this one please ?
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Re: NCDC 2013 Radio safe ?
« Reply #7 on: 20 December 2011, 09:01:06 »

albs is this on bench or in car ?
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Re: NCDC 2013 Radio safe ?
« Reply #8 on: 20 December 2011, 10:19:04 »

Bench. :y
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Re: NCDC 2013 Radio safe ?
« Reply #9 on: 20 December 2011, 10:47:23 »

Just thinking aloud here as we got rid of our test rig for those years ago

Radio shoud only need Permanent, ignition and earth, but think the display had to have all of the necessary lives connected in order to function and communicate with the head.

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Re: NCDC 2013 Radio safe ?
« Reply #10 on: 20 December 2011, 10:52:55 »

Probably right.May well have ommited to connect something. The thing Im concerned about is,will it be ok when installed in a car or will it now be permanently "safe". I dont have a Bose equipped car to test it in at the moment,although I may find the answer by trying it in any Omega ? Not sure tbh.May try it when I have time next week. :-\
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Re: NCDC 2013 Radio safe ?
« Reply #11 on: 20 December 2011, 10:57:22 »

As long as screen and display are kept together, you you should be able to power them up in a car without the pairing code being lost. However, if the head sees another display, or vice versa, then it may well go into its lockdown mode - so just be carefull.

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Re: NCDC 2013 Radio safe ?
« Reply #12 on: 20 December 2011, 11:24:59 »

Thanks Dave. :y
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Re: NCDC 2013 Radio safe ?
« Reply #13 on: 20 December 2011, 13:16:43 »

just thinking albs but has the ncdc got to be in contact with ecu ?? for it to work ??
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Re: NCDC 2013 Radio safe ?
« Reply #14 on: 20 December 2011, 13:42:30 »

just thinking albs but has the ncdc got to be in contact with ecu ?? for it to work ??

Shouldn`t do - its only the later models that have a full CAN link between the Audio and vehicle ECU`s, CD30/70 etc - The NCDxxxx just had a partial CAN links between the Head, screen and telematics (if fitted) and could certainly be run as a standalone system
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Re: NCDC 2013 Radio safe ?
« Reply #15 on: 20 December 2011, 13:55:43 »

Quote
CD30/70 etc

thats what i was probally thinking of  ;)
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Re: NCDC 2013 Radio safe ?
« Reply #16 on: 07 April 2012, 20:35:31 »

Update in this problem.Finally got the chance today to plug the unit and screen into an elite with the same setup.The screen still shows "radio safe" message and emits a beep every few seconds.The laser in the upper slot (for satnav) also appears to have died since the last time it was used,about a year ago. :(
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Re: NCDC 2013 Radio safe ?
« Reply #17 on: 07 April 2012, 20:50:16 »

Update in this problem.Finally got the chance today to plug the unit and screen into an elite with the same setup.The screen still shows "radio safe" message and emits a beep every few seconds.The laser in the upper slot (for satnav) also appears to have died since the last time it was used,about a year ago. :(
Sounds like the radio has de-paired itself. Was it a known paired HU & screen Albs
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Re: NCDC 2013 Radio safe ?
« Reply #18 on: 07 April 2012, 21:18:24 »

Yep,both from the same car and worked fine together originally. :y
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Re: NCDC 2013 Radio safe ?
« Reply #19 on: 07 April 2012, 21:19:38 »

Yep,both from the same car and worked fine together originally. :y
Reckon it`s lost it`s pairing. (pm limit ::)) ;D
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« Reply #20 on: 07 April 2012, 21:22:10 »

Will make a good paperweight then. :y ;D.........having said that,the other functions work ok.Its just the nav.Not sure if thats relevant ?
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« Reply #21 on: 07 April 2012, 21:24:00 »

Will make a good paperweight then. :y ;D.........having said that,the other functions work ok.Its just the nav.Not sure if thats relevant ?
What functions, thought radio was in "safe" mode  ???
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Re: NCDC 2013 Radio safe ?
« Reply #22 on: 07 April 2012, 21:27:33 »

Without boring you with the details of the security, it means the pairing is screwed.

Without the satnav, nobody is going to want it over a 2006, and the bleeping is really annoying.

Sounds like its one for spares now :(
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