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Title: Can I have....
Post by: STEMO on 14 December 2023, 12:07:39
......your learned opinions on this please  :)

http://www.autotrader.co.uk/car-details/202311254292625
Title: Re: Can I have....
Post by: Field Marshal Dr. Opti on 14 December 2023, 12:22:04
Bland...dull...uninspiring.

Go for the M3 Touring instead. ;D
Title: Re: Can I have....
Post by: Field Marshal Dr. Opti on 14 December 2023, 12:23:48
Also...£10750 sound a lot for a 10 year old Honda.

Just saying. ;)
Title: Re: Can I have....
Post by: STEMO on 14 December 2023, 12:23:58
Bland...dull...uninspiring.

Go for the M3 Touring instead. ;D
Tit  ;D
Title: Re: Can I have....
Post by: STEMO on 14 December 2023, 12:39:31
Also...£10750 sound a lot for a 10 year old Honda.

Just saying. ;)
Autotrader reckons £10,260 for a private sale, I'd get it for 10. I'd have been to look at it already if I could have traded mine against it, but I'll have to sell mine privately.
Title: Re: Can I have....
Post by: Field Marshal Dr. Opti on 14 December 2023, 12:42:16
Also...£10750 sound a lot for a 10 year old Honda.

Just saying. ;)
Autotrader reckons £10,260 for a private sale, I'd get it for 10. I'd have been to look at it already if I could have traded mine against it, but I'll have to sell mine privately.

Trade what...

The Astra or the Gangbang?
Title: Re: Can I have....
Post by: Field Marshal Dr. Opti on 14 December 2023, 12:49:25
Personally, for what it is worth, I'd keep the Astra.

Run it till it stops running....which could be longer than you. :)
Title: Re: Can I have....
Post by: STEMO on 14 December 2023, 13:05:30
Also...£10750 sound a lot for a 10 year old Honda.

Just saying. ;)
Autotrader reckons £10,260 for a private sale, I'd get it for 10. I'd have been to look at it already if I could have traded mine against it, but I'll have to sell mine privately.

Trade what...

The Astra or the Gangbang?
I paid over £21,000 for the grandland, that's going nowhere. The Astra is fine, just too small.
Title: Re: Can I have....
Post by: YZ250 on 14 December 2023, 13:25:48
Initial response would be that given your age you’re far too young to own a Honda but hey, it looks tidy and straight, and the history appears to stack up. Two MOT’s in the same year easily explained by forward planning of travelling overseas for a few months etc. My brother-in-law has one and I don’t believe he’s had many issues with it but can ask him if need be.   :)
Title: Re: Can I have....
Post by: Viral_Jim on 14 December 2023, 14:08:55
Don't know about the car, but this seems like a decent review (from a bloke who owns/drives a LOT of cars).

https://youtu.be/-hFOSqVNVno?si=HtWhuN7D_nWnRcol (https://youtu.be/-hFOSqVNVno?si=HtWhuN7D_nWnRcol)

Sounds like just what you're after  :y
Title: Re: Can I have....
Post by: Field Marshal Dr. Opti on 14 December 2023, 14:09:24
It's the kind of car that is owned by people who have absolutely no interest in cars.

More of an appliance than a car......does the job much like a fridge or washing machine.

But if it is merely used for shopping and taking the whippet for a walk that may be no bad thing. :)
Title: Re: Can I have....
Post by: TheBoy on 14 December 2023, 14:17:21
If its what you want, why not.  Or possibly wait another month or 2 for those lower 2nd hand prices to filter through everywhere.

Can't say it does anything for me mind ;D, but its what you think of it what counts....


Actually, another consideration for those pointless semi jacked up shitboxes - when doggie gets a little older, its quite a way to jump up to get in the boot....
Title: Re: Can I have....
Post by: Rangie on 14 December 2023, 14:23:52
My mate has had one for a couple of years, went in it for the first time last week , wifey & I sat in the back amazing amount of legroom & very comfortable seats, his is the same year as that one with a lot more miles absolutely no problems with it at all & its always been looked after by a Honda dealership. Have seen a lot of them on the caravan clubs so obviously thought of as a good towcar. In all honesty that looks like a pretty good buy to me definitely worth taking a look at.
Title: Re: Can I have....
Post by: STEMO on 14 December 2023, 15:22:47
Wow! Thank you, all. Apart from it being unexciting and everyday, those comments are brilliant (for OOF)  ;D

I even got called 'too young'  :-*
Title: Re: Can I have....
Post by: countrywoman on 14 December 2023, 15:37:16
Better than the Grand POS in my opinion, they drive well and not bad looking for a modern lump
Title: Re: Can I have....
Post by: ronnyd on 14 December 2023, 15:50:15
Can you live with sitting in that interior though?  ;) Looks ok apart from that and would suit someone of your age.  :)
Title: Re: Can I have....
Post by: STEMO on 14 December 2023, 16:04:54
Can you live with sitting in that interior though?  ;) Looks ok apart from that and would suit someone of your age.  :)

I'm thinking that myself, Ron, my car does get a bit muddy with the dog.  :-\

I'm eight years younger than you, codger  :P
Title: Re: Can I have....
Post by: ronnyd on 14 December 2023, 16:30:14
Can you live with sitting in that interior though?  ;) Looks ok apart from that and would suit someone of your age.  :)

I'm thinking that myself, Ron, my car does get a bit muddy with the dog.  :-\

I'm eight years younger than you, codger  :P

;D :y Seems a trend that red cars have a tan interior. Which i must admit i'm not a fan of. The Lincolnshire landowner does have a point. If you don't need anything bigger why not stick with the Astra.
Title: Re: Can I have....
Post by: Sir Tigger KC on 14 December 2023, 17:46:05
I've had 3 friends who had Honda CRV's and they all loved them.  :y 

If you need something a little bigger than your Astra, but it's mostly going to be a shopping/doggy car, have you thought about one of these? (https://www.autotrader.co.uk/car-details/202310183098881?sort=price-asc&advertising-location=at_cars&fuel-type=Diesel&make=Dacia&maximum-mileage=60000&model=Duster&page=2&postcode=DT73NB&fromsra)  :)
Title: Re: Can I have....
Post by: STEMO on 14 December 2023, 17:48:40
I've had 3 friends who had Honda CRV's and they all loved them.  :y 

If you need something a little bigger than your Astra, but it's mostly going to be a shopping/doggy car, have you thought about one of these? (https://www.autotrader.co.uk/car-details/202310183098881?sort=price-asc&advertising-location=at_cars&fuel-type=Diesel&make=Dacia&maximum-mileage=60000&model=Duster&page=2&postcode=DT73NB&fromsra)  :)
A Renault megane, only with older tech? No  ;D
Title: Re: Can I have....
Post by: Doctor Gollum on 14 December 2023, 18:10:07
Did anyone else mis read that as Ambulance?  >:D
Title: Re: Can I have....
Post by: Rangie on 14 December 2023, 18:14:08
Wow! Thank you, all. Apart from it being unexciting and everyday, those comments are brilliant (for OOF)  ;D

I even got called 'too young'  :-*
.


Decent MOT history , low mileage go for it can't go wrong with a Japanese workhorse get a protective cover in the back for the dog or better still a crate.
Title: Re: Can I have....
Post by: Sir Tigger KC on 14 December 2023, 18:27:31
I've had 3 friends who had Honda CRV's and they all loved them.  :y 

If you need something a little bigger than your Astra, but it's mostly going to be a shopping/doggy car, have you thought about one of these? (https://www.autotrader.co.uk/car-details/202310183098881?sort=price-asc&advertising-location=at_cars&fuel-type=Diesel&make=Dacia&maximum-mileage=60000&model=Duster&page=2&postcode=DT73NB&fromsra)  :)
A Renault megane, only with older tech? No  ;D

I thought you liked Renaults?  :-\      Even if it is a Romanian Renault!  ;D
Title: Re: Can I have....
Post by: Field Marshal Dr. Opti on 14 December 2023, 18:36:00
I've had 3 friends who had Honda CRV's and they all loved them.  :y 

If you need something a little bigger than your Astra, but it's mostly going to be a shopping/doggy car, have you thought about one of these? (https://www.autotrader.co.uk/car-details/202310183098881?sort=price-asc&advertising-location=at_cars&fuel-type=Diesel&make=Dacia&maximum-mileage=60000&model=Duster&page=2&postcode=DT73NB&fromsra)  :)
A Renault megane, only with older tech? No  ;D

I thought you liked Renaults?  :-\      Even if it is a Romanian Renault!  ;D

I think a car as unpretentious as the Dacia fits the bill perfectly well for the price. No bells and whistles it just gets on with its primary function of getting after an old man and his mutt from A to B. :)

Title: Re: Can I have....
Post by: STEMO on 14 December 2023, 18:56:24
It's definitely going to be a CRV, the comments on here have made my mind up. Think I'll leave it till after Christmas, there are a good few about. Thanks all, except Opti, who is a piss taking tŵat  ;D
Title: Re: Can I have....
Post by: Sir Tigger KC on 14 December 2023, 19:01:13
I've had 3 friends who had Honda CRV's and they all loved them.  :y 

If you need something a little bigger than your Astra, but it's mostly going to be a shopping/doggy car, have you thought about one of these? (https://www.autotrader.co.uk/car-details/202310183098881?sort=price-asc&advertising-location=at_cars&fuel-type=Diesel&make=Dacia&maximum-mileage=60000&model=Duster&page=2&postcode=DT73NB&fromsra)  :)
A Renault megane, only with older tech? No  ;D

I thought you liked Renaults?  :-\      Even if it is a Romanian Renault!  ;D

I think a car as unpretentious as the Dacia fits the bill perfectly well for the price. No bells and whistles it just gets on with its primary function of getting after an old man and his mutt from A to B. :)

Exactly what I thought M'Lud!  :y                                                                          ;D                                                                             
Title: Re: Can I have....
Post by: STEMO on 14 December 2023, 19:44:15
I've had 3 friends who had Honda CRV's and they all loved them.  :y 

If you need something a little bigger than your Astra, but it's mostly going to be a shopping/doggy car, have you thought about one of these? (https://www.autotrader.co.uk/car-details/202310183098881?sort=price-asc&advertising-location=at_cars&fuel-type=Diesel&make=Dacia&maximum-mileage=60000&model=Duster&page=2&postcode=DT73NB&fromsra)  :)
A Renault megane, only with older tech? No  ;D

I thought you liked Renaults?  :-\      Even if it is a Romanian Renault!  ;D

I think a car as unpretentious as the Dacia fits the bill perfectly well for the price. No bells and whistles it just gets on with its primary function of getting after an old man and his mutt from A to B. :)

Exactly what I thought M'Lud!  :y                                                                          ;D                                                                           
Well you can eff off replace your Volvo with one  :P
Title: Re: Can I have....
Post by: Field Marshal Dr. Opti on 14 December 2023, 19:50:24
I've had 3 friends who had Honda CRV's and they all loved them.  :y 

If you need something a little bigger than your Astra, but it's mostly going to be a shopping/doggy car, have you thought about one of these? (https://www.autotrader.co.uk/car-details/202310183098881?sort=price-asc&advertising-location=at_cars&fuel-type=Diesel&make=Dacia&maximum-mileage=60000&model=Duster&page=2&postcode=DT73NB&fromsra)  :)
A Renault megane, only with older tech? No  ;D

I thought you liked Renaults?  :-\      Even if it is a Romanian Renault!  ;D

I think a car as unpretentious as the Dacia fits the bill perfectly well for the price. No bells and whistles it just gets on with its primary function of getting after an old man and his mutt from A to B. :)

Exactly what I thought M'Lud!  :y                                                                          ;D                                                                           

Old people can become extremely stubborn, Tig. ;D
Title: Re: Can I have....
Post by: Sir Tigger KC on 14 December 2023, 21:23:17
I've had 3 friends who had Honda CRV's and they all loved them.  :y 

If you need something a little bigger than your Astra, but it's mostly going to be a shopping/doggy car, have you thought about one of these? (https://www.autotrader.co.uk/car-details/202310183098881?sort=price-asc&advertising-location=at_cars&fuel-type=Diesel&make=Dacia&maximum-mileage=60000&model=Duster&page=2&postcode=DT73NB&fromsra)  :)
A Renault megane, only with older tech? No  ;D

I thought you liked Renaults?  :-\      Even if it is a Romanian Renault!  ;D

I think a car as unpretentious as the Dacia fits the bill perfectly well for the price. No bells and whistles it just gets on with its primary function of getting after an old man and his mutt from A to B. :)

Exactly what I thought M'Lud!  :y                                                                          ;D                                                                           
Well you can eff off replace your Volvo with one  :P

No thanks, I'm not a pensioner!  ;D
Title: Re: Can I have....
Post by: Sir Tigger KC on 14 December 2023, 21:26:41
I've had 3 friends who had Honda CRV's and they all loved them.  :y 

If you need something a little bigger than your Astra, but it's mostly going to be a shopping/doggy car, have you thought about one of these? (https://www.autotrader.co.uk/car-details/202310183098881?sort=price-asc&advertising-location=at_cars&fuel-type=Diesel&make=Dacia&maximum-mileage=60000&model=Duster&page=2&postcode=DT73NB&fromsra)  :)
A Renault megane, only with older tech? No  ;D

I thought you liked Renaults?  :-\      Even if it is a Romanian Renault!  ;D

I think a car as unpretentious as the Dacia fits the bill perfectly well for the price. No bells and whistles it just gets on with its primary function of getting after an old man and his mutt from A to B. :)

Exactly what I thought M'Lud!  :y                                                                          ;D                                                                           

Old people can become extremely stubborn, Tig. ;D

Just trying to help an OAP eck out his pension a bit and I get told to eff off!  ::)

There's gratitude for you!  :-\                                                                                             ;D
Title: Re: Can I have....
Post by: STEMO on 14 December 2023, 21:37:30
I'm grateful,  I really am. But might I suggest that you shove your recommendations up your arse.......sideways  ;D
Title: Re: Can I have....
Post by: Sir Tigger KC on 14 December 2023, 21:46:27
I'm grateful,  I really am. But might I suggest that you shove your recommendations up your arse.......sideways  ;D

OK, but given you've driven some weird cars in the past like the Daewoo, I thought a Romanian Renault would be right up your street!  >:D
Title: Re: Can I have....
Post by: Rangie on 14 December 2023, 22:38:52
Wait till the spring Steve, us OAPs will have a bit more cash to splash when we get the next triple lock increase..😂🎄😂🎄
Title: Re: Can I have....
Post by: Sir Tigger KC on 14 December 2023, 22:47:53
Wait till the spring Steve, us OAPs will have a bit more cash to splash when we get the next triple lock increase..😂🎄😂🎄

Demand for Honda CRV's from loaded OAPs like Uncle STEMO will drive the prices up though.  ;D

Although I suppose it's good he's not contemplating a Nissan Micra yet!  :y
Title: Re: Can I have....
Post by: STEMO on 15 December 2023, 06:17:46
Wait till the spring Steve, us OAPs will have a bit more cash to splash when we get the next triple lock increase..😂🎄😂🎄

Demand for Honda CRV's from loaded OAPs like Uncle STEMO will drive the prices up though.  ;D

Although I suppose it's good he's not contemplating a Nissan Micra yet!  :y
A Honda Jizz would be my second choice  :y
Title: Re: Can I have....
Post by: Viral_Jim on 15 December 2023, 09:03:48
Rangie has a point Ste, give it a few months and you could take the mutt out in style  :y

https://www.autotrader.co.uk/car-details/202312054563949?sort=price-asc&advertising-location=at_cars&fuel-type=Diesel&make=Land%20Rover&maximum-mileage=100000&minimum-badge-engine-size=4.0&model=Range%20Rover&page=3&postcode=st11aa&price-to=15000&fromsra (https://www.autotrader.co.uk/car-details/202312054563949?sort=price-asc&advertising-location=at_cars&fuel-type=Diesel&make=Land%20Rover&maximum-mileage=100000&minimum-badge-engine-size=4.0&model=Range%20Rover&page=3&postcode=st11aa&price-to=15000&fromsra)
Title: Re: Can I have....
Post by: Marks DTM Calib on 15 December 2023, 10:43:00
......your learned opinions on this please  :)

http://www.autotrader.co.uk/car-details/202311254292625

Perfect car for you, Hondas are designed for the retired and near dead
Title: Re: Can I have....
Post by: STEMO on 15 December 2023, 11:10:06
......your learned opinions on this please  :)

http://www.autotrader.co.uk/car-details/202311254292625

Perfect car for you, Hondas are designed for the retired and near dead
Excellent, I fall into both of those categories  :y
Title: Re: Can I have....
Post by: STEMO on 15 December 2023, 11:12:05
Rangie has a point Ste, give it a few months and you could take the mutt out in style  :y

https://www.autotrader.co.uk/car-details/202312054563949?sort=price-asc&advertising-location=at_cars&fuel-type=Diesel&make=Land%20Rover&maximum-mileage=100000&minimum-badge-engine-size=4.0&model=Range%20Rover&page=3&postcode=st11aa&price-to=15000&fromsra (https://www.autotrader.co.uk/car-details/202312054563949?sort=price-asc&advertising-location=at_cars&fuel-type=Diesel&make=Land%20Rover&maximum-mileage=100000&minimum-badge-engine-size=4.0&model=Range%20Rover&page=3&postcode=st11aa&price-to=15000&fromsra)
Yes, but he wouldn't be happy waiting to be rescued once a week. I wouldn't have a JLR product if you paid me.

Except, maybe, a Freelander2.
Title: Re: Can I have....
Post by: Field Marshal Dr. Opti on 15 December 2023, 12:15:55
......your learned opinions on this please  :)

http://www.autotrader.co.uk/car-details/202311254292625

Perfect car for you, Hondas are designed for the retired and near dead

Tis true.....but I wouldn't mind an original Honda NSX from the 1990's...... :)
Title: Re: Can I have....
Post by: Field Marshal Dr. Opti on 15 December 2023, 12:20:28
https://youtu.be/NKMqhNJ-Rdw?feature=shared (https://youtu.be/NKMqhNJ-Rdw?feature=shared)

Not a Honda ( I think) but you get the idea. >:D
Title: Re: Can I have....
Post by: Field Marshal Dr. Opti on 15 December 2023, 12:24:26
I'm grateful,  I really am. But might I suggest that you shove your recommendations up your arse.......sideways  ;D

OK, but given you've driven some weird cars in the past like the Daewoo, I thought a Romanian Renault would be right up your street!  >:D

Pretty sure that was actually a Chevrolet.....much like a Corvette Stingray. :)
Title: Re: Can I have....
Post by: STEMO on 15 December 2023, 12:31:22
I'm grateful,  I really am. But might I suggest that you shove your recommendations up your arse.......sideways  ;D

OK, but given you've driven some weird cars in the past like the Daewoo, I thought a Romanian Renault would be right up your street!  >:D

Pretty sure that was actually a Chevrolet.....much like a Corvette Stingray. :)
Only quicker  :y
Title: Re: Can I have....
Post by: TheBoy on 15 December 2023, 13:00:41
Except, maybe, a Freelander2.
Isn't that just a previous generation Evoque with a different frock?

Little Bro has one, and loves it. But, unsurprisingly, is now going through replacing the failed door locks!
Title: Re: Can I have....
Post by: Sir Tigger KC on 15 December 2023, 13:08:09
https://youtu.be/NKMqhNJ-Rdw?feature=shared (https://youtu.be/NKMqhNJ-Rdw?feature=shared)

Not a Honda ( I think) but you get the idea. >:D

Oh jeez, I see plenty of that sort of thing round here.  ::)

My elderly neighbours have some kind of little Daihatsu with a high revving elastic band engine...  :-\
Title: Re: Can I have....
Post by: johnnydog on 15 December 2023, 13:29:41
It's definitely going to be a CRV, the comments on here have made my mind up. Think I'll leave it till after Christmas, there are a good few about. Thanks all, except Opti, who is a piss taking tŵat  ;D

My wife has had three Honda CRV EX models since 2011. The first was the last of the older shape; an 2011 auto with the 2.2 diesel engine, which was an excellent car, comfy and good to drive. Good in snow too. The shape was a bit 'marmite', but it did 107k, with no mechanical issues, apart from a faulty parking sensor fixed under warranty. Replaced with a later (2015) 1.6 160bhp EX auto, which was more responsive, but economical (and cheaper road tax compared to the older 2.2 engine) and a very comfortable place to be. Basically the same body and interior to the one you have seen advertised, but a black leather interior (that beige interior to me is hideous....), and the later 1.6 160bhp turbo engine (I'd avoid the 120 bhp 2WD version) After some kind sole damaged it front and rear, after if was repaired, she replaced with an identical but 2017 model, which has been very reliable, and has only had a faulty 'water in fuel filter' sensor, which was not a particularly expensive fix.
She loves them, and I have to agree they are a very good well screwed together vehicle, so I don't think to you will go far wrong with one of those from our experiences of them. From a personal preference, I'd go for the EX model with the better spec without question :y
Title: Re: Can I have....
Post by: Marks DTM Calib on 15 December 2023, 13:49:31
Except, maybe, a Freelander2.
Isn't that just a previous generation Evoque with a different frock?

Little Bro has one, and loves it. But, unsurprisingly, is now going through replacing the failed door locks!

No, completely different car, the Freelander was actually an SUV that failed the occupancy protection part of the crash test so bady, they jacked the suspension up and called it the Freelander (the extra height helped with the crash survivability). Evoque started off as a Mondeo chassis spin off, very much moved on from that now though
Title: Re: Can I have....
Post by: Doctor Gollum on 15 December 2023, 13:56:27
All exceptional reasons not to buy one then.
Title: Re: Can I have....
Post by: ronnyd on 15 December 2023, 16:11:25
It's definitely going to be a CRV, the comments on here have made my mind up. Think I'll leave it till after Christmas, there are a good few about. Thanks all, except Opti, who is a piss taking tŵat  ;D

My wife has had three Honda CRV EX models since 2011. The first was the last of the older shape; an 2011 auto with the 2.2 diesel engine, which was an excellent car, comfy and good to drive. Good in snow too. The shape was a bit 'marmite', but it did 107k, with no mechanical issues, apart from a faulty parking sensor fixed under warranty. Replaced with a later (2015) 1.6 160bhp EX auto, which was more responsive, but economical (and cheaper road tax compared to the older 2.2 engine) and a very comfortable place to be. Basically the same body and interior to the one you have seen advertised, but a black leather interior (that beige interior to me is hideous....), and the later 1.6 160bhp turbo engine (I'd avoid the 120 bhp 2WD version) After some kind sole damaged it front and rear, after if was repaired, she replaced with an identical but 2017 model, which has been very reliable, and has only had a faulty 'water in fuel filter' sensor, which was not a particularly expensive fix.
She loves them, and I have to agree they are a very good well screwed together vehicle, so I don't think to you will go far wrong with one of those from our experiences of them. From a personal preference, I'd go for the EX model with the better spec without question :y
:y Plus 1  ;D
Title: Re: Can I have....
Post by: Rangie on 15 December 2023, 16:29:25
Saw my mate today who has a 2014 CRV , he knows nothing about cars & rarely washes it or lifts the bonnet I asked him would he buy another ? Without out a doubt was his answer they're totally reliable & servicing is very reasonable after riding in it I would be tempted by one as a tow vehicle but I'd need to purchase a smaller caravan as well.
Title: Re: Can I have....
Post by: TheBoy on 15 December 2023, 18:22:13
Except, maybe, a Freelander2.
Isn't that just a previous generation Evoque with a different frock?

Little Bro has one, and loves it. But, unsurprisingly, is now going through replacing the failed door locks!

No, completely different car, the Freelander was actually an SUV that failed the occupancy protection part of the crash test so bady, they jacked the suspension up and called it the Freelander (the extra height helped with the crash survivability). Evoque started off as a Mondeo chassis spin off, very much moved on from that now though
You might want to double check that, the Freelander 2 was built on the Mundano platform I believe, and the Evoque was a development of that same platform due to the (surprise?) success of the LRX concept.
Title: Re: Can I have....
Post by: YZ250 on 15 December 2023, 20:04:31
I know who built the original Land Rover Freelander as I was on the project team at the time. We had a Maestro Van that the project team had fitted to the Freelander chassis as a test vehicle in disguise.  :y 
Another piece of useless information, the R50 Mini Cooper S engine was fitted into a Rover 200 hatch to be tested on public roads for high mileage. That was a hoot.  Only giveaway was the twin zorsts.  :y
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Post by: TheBoy on 16 December 2023, 10:20:39
I know who built the original Land Rover Freelander as I was on the project team at the time. We had a Maestro Van that the project team had fitted to the Freelander chassis as a test vehicle in disguise.  :y 
Another piece of useless information, the R50 Mini Cooper S engine was fitted into a Rover 200 hatch to be tested on public roads for high mileage. That was a hoot.  Only giveaway was the twin zorsts.  :y
With the original Freelander, maybe the Maestro van would have been a better chassis ;D.

(I actually quite liked the Maestro vans we used to get for work - decently sized, raggable (if still slow) A Series, reasonable comfortable compared with similar small vans of the time - but suffered really chronic understeer under braking)

Also, back in the day, I had a 216GSi, affectionally known as Tavvy due to its plate, I love that car, as it would out handle the Astras and Escorts of the time, and was decently quick compared to other 1.6s of the time - an easy match for my lodger's XR3i, and not far behind the MkII GTE I had previous, but you had to rev the tits off it.  3rd gear was particularly effective, as it covered most situations from about 30mph over 100 (kph of course, officer).  Unsurprisingly it did gain a bit of a whine in 3rd, plus the clutch started slipping...   ...so I gave it to big Bro, who was going through a tough patch with divorce, to tie him over.  He did absolutely nothing to it apart from MOT it and put tyres and brakes on.  I borrowed it a few years later when I moved house, and it still went like the clappers, once the clutch finally bit!
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Post by: YZ250 on 16 December 2023, 11:09:40

With the original Freelander, maybe the Maestro van would have been a better chassis ;D.

Quite possibly. ;D  I seem to recall that it sold well though.


Also, back in the day, I had a 216GSi ……..

It was a decent motor for its time.  :y  The Cooper S engine did mileage trials fitted in to the later Rover 200 shape, like the one you were smacked up the arse in I believe.

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Post by: YZ250 on 16 December 2023, 11:43:14
………
the later Rover 200 shape ……

Oops, just remembered that they renamed this to Rover 25.   :-[
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Post by: Doctor Gollum on 16 December 2023, 12:08:44
………
the later Rover 200 shape ……

Oops, just remembered that they renamed this to Rover 25.   :-[
Did it help? >:D
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Post by: Field Marshal Dr. Opti on 16 December 2023, 12:12:24
Speaking of Rover...

My brother owned a 1970(H) 3500 auto in blue. The one in the old 2000/2200 body shape.

No rev counter and just a strip speedo.
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Post by: YZ250 on 16 December 2023, 12:21:46
………
the later Rover 200 shape ……

Oops, just remembered that they renamed this to Rover 25.   :-[
Did it help? >:D

No, not really. ;D
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Post by: YZ250 on 16 December 2023, 12:25:35
Speaking of Rover...

My brother owned a 1970(H) 3500 auto in blue. The one in the old 2000/2200 body shape.

No rev counter and just a strip speedo.

P6 with the thermometer speedo.  :y
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Post by: TheBoy on 16 December 2023, 12:38:46
………
the later Rover 200 shape ……

Oops, just remembered that they renamed this to Rover 25.   :-[
Yup, the one I took it up the arse in was a 25.  Again, half decent car for front seat passengers, though lacked the comfort of the R8 and was very, very fussy on tyres to make it handle properly. Pirelli P6000 or ditch ;D.  Being K series, that needed the nuts revved off it to make it go.

Only car we've had brand new that we bought with our own money.  Wouldn't have paid retail for it, mind.
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Post by: Nick W on 16 December 2023, 15:11:06
………
the later Rover 200 shape ……

Oops, just remembered that they renamed this to Rover 25.   :-[
Did it help? >:D


They were pretty good cars, and the 25 lost most of the Honda complications that did nothing except cost more money. The MGs weren't an improvement due to the lack of suspension, shoddy and uncomfortable interiors(which also apply to 75 equivalents) and the silly body kit. A well kept, pensioner spec 25 is still a better place to be than a modern small hatch.
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Post by: countrywoman on 16 December 2023, 15:24:26
Bit off track but the original 400s were Hondas ,in fact I used to work on one that had the Honda twin cam engine fitted. Never seen another like that but went like do do of a shovel.
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Post by: Doctor Gollum on 16 December 2023, 15:30:50
………
the later Rover 200 shape ……

Oops, just remembered that they renamed this to Rover 25.   :-[
Did it help? >:D


They were pretty good cars, and the 25 lost most of the Honda complications that did nothing except cost more money. The MGs weren't an improvement due to the lack of suspension, shoddy and uncomfortable interiors(which also apply to 75 equivalents) and the silly body kit. A well kept, pensioner spec 25 is still a better place to be than a modern small hatch.
Until you prang it.
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Post by: TheBoy on 16 December 2023, 16:09:48
………
the later Rover 200 shape ……

Oops, just remembered that they renamed this to Rover 25.   :-[
Did it help? >:D


They were pretty good cars, and the 25 lost most of the Honda complications that did nothing except cost more money. The MGs weren't an improvement due to the lack of suspension, shoddy and uncomfortable interiors(which also apply to 75 equivalents) and the silly body kit. A well kept, pensioner spec 25 is still a better place to be than a modern small hatch.
Until you prang it.
Mine did pretty well, seeing as it was hit so hard it launched it across another lane into a central reservation, just as an Audi tanking down the outside lane t-boned it into the drivers door - he said he never got to the brakes before impact.

Now I'd be the first to say about 24hrs later it hurt like you couldn't believe, but I'm still here and didn't even break any bones.

4 cars were written off, mind, with mine being a Cat B
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Post by: Sir Tigger KC on 16 December 2023, 18:12:20
I had a 1996 Rover 216D which I paid £500 for, had it for a couple of years, didn't do much to it, didn't need to either, and waved it off on the back of a scrappies truck.

For a cheap run a round it was great and I can't remember why I scrapped it now.  :-\
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Post by: Nick W on 16 December 2023, 18:59:41
I had a 1996 Rover 216D which I paid £500 for, had it for a couple of years, didn't do much to it, didn't need to either, and waved it off on the back of a scrappies truck.

For a cheap run a round it was great and I can't remember why I scrapped it now.  :-\


The usual reason is the French engine not being used to living in a decent car, and dying early ;D
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Post by: STEMO on 16 December 2023, 19:58:22
Only rover I ever had was a 623SLi, 2.3 litre Honda engine. It was great and pulled like a train from very low revs. It looked great in pewter. Think I traded it for the MGZT+.
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Post by: Rangie on 16 December 2023, 20:17:43
SWMBO had 2 Rover Metros & absolutely loved them , I didn't dislike them quite enjoyed driving them on the odd occasion, I had a Rover Montego Countryman 2.0 went like the clappers & never let me down, the tinworm took hold so I traded it in for a new 2.0 Mazda 626 diesel estate.
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Post by: YZ250 on 16 December 2023, 22:02:01
Only rover I ever had was a 623SLi, 2.3 litre Honda engine. It was great and pulled like a train from very low revs. It looked great in pewter. Think I traded it for the MGZT+.

I had a 620ti in Knightfire Red and its replacement was a British Racing Green 620ti. It was a quick car in its day.  :y
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Post by: STEMO on 16 December 2023, 22:22:43
Only rover I ever had was a 623SLi, 2.3 litre Honda engine. It was great and pulled like a train from very low revs. It looked great in pewter. Think I traded it for the MGZT+.

I had a 620ti in Knightfire Red and its replacement was a British Racing Green 620ti. It was a quick car in its day.  :y
620ti was the fastest of the bunch and would still be considered fast now.
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Post by: STEMO on 16 December 2023, 22:39:10
Only rover I ever had was a 623SLi, 2.3 litre Honda engine. It was great and pulled like a train from very low revs. It looked great in pewter. Think I traded it for the MGZT+.

I had a 620ti in Knightfire Red and its replacement was a British Racing Green 620ti. It was a quick car in its day.  :y
Look at this, makes me all nostalgic. That would put a good few cars to shame at the lights even now.

Check out its MOT history, whoever owned certainly didn't drive it much

http://www.autotrader.co.uk/car-details/202306248889516
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Post by: YZ250 on 16 December 2023, 22:51:16
Only rover I ever had was a 623SLi, 2.3 litre Honda engine. It was great and pulled like a train from very low revs. It looked great in pewter. Think I traded it for the MGZT+.

I had a 620ti in Knightfire Red and its replacement was a British Racing Green 620ti. It was a quick car in its day.  :y
Look at this, makes me all nostalgic. That would put a good few cars to shame at the lights even now.

Check out its MOT history, whoever owned certainly didn't drive it much

http://www.autotrader.co.uk/car-details/202306248889516

 :y
I had a MG Montego Turbo before the 620ti and they both proved a handful when leaving a roundabout in the wet. ;D   :y
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Post by: YZ250 on 16 December 2023, 23:05:55
………….
Check out its MOT history, whoever owned certainly didn't drive it much
………

 :o  Around 3K a year max, some years much less.

He needs to get out more. ;D

That car in your link is within budget and mpg for a potential replacement car for TB.  ;D
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Post by: henryd on 17 December 2023, 09:41:17
Only rover I ever had was a 623SLi, 2.3 litre Honda engine. It was great and pulled like a train from very low revs. It looked great in pewter. Think I traded it for the MGZT+.

I had a 620ti in Knightfire Red and its replacement was a British Racing Green 620ti. It was a quick car in its day.  :y
620ti was the fastest of the bunch and would still be considered fast now.

I had one for a while, properly quick car that didnt shout it :y
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Post by: Rangie on 17 December 2023, 10:18:32
Only rover I ever had was a 623SLi, 2.3 litre Honda engine. It was great and pulled like a train from very low revs. It looked great in pewter. Think I traded it for the MGZT+.

I had a 620ti in Knightfire Red and its replacement was a British Racing Green 620ti. It was a quick car in its day.  :y
Look at this, makes me all nostalgic. That would put a good few cars to shame at the lights even now.

Check out its MOT history, whoever owned certainly didn't drive it much

http://www.autotrader.co.uk/car-details/202306248889516


They were a good looking car without a doubt, one of our neighbours had one of the 820 coupe Rovers in a metallic blue around 96/97 fabulous looking car.
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Post by: STEMO on 17 December 2023, 10:40:30
There aren't many people of a certain age who haven't had a Rover at some stage of their life.
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Post by: Sir Tigger KC on 17 December 2023, 11:17:24
I remember driving by Longbridge not long after Rover finished up, and was astonished to see that the whole place had been demolished. It was just a vast empty site with a few piles of rubble.  I felt sad and it was almost as if someone, somewhere was determined it would never come back.

Apparently the site is a housing estate now, and I wonder if the streets have names like Rover Road, Leyland Lane, Wolseley Way, Austin Avenue etc

Imagine living on Allegro Avenue!  ;D
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Post by: ronnyd on 17 December 2023, 11:38:06
Vanden Plas Drive would sound posh.  :)
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Post by: Field Marshal Dr. Opti on 17 December 2023, 12:15:16
I remember driving by Longbridge not long after Rover finished up, and was astonished to see that the whole place had been demolished. It was just a vast empty site with a few piles of rubble.  I felt sad and it was almost as if someone, somewhere was determined it would never come back.

Apparently the site is a housing estate now, and I wonder if the streets have names like Rover Road, Leyland Lane, Wolseley Way, Austin Avenue etc

Imagine living on Allegro Avenue!  ;D

Marina Drive? >:D
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Post by: STEMO on 17 December 2023, 12:18:18
I remember driving by Longbridge not long after Rover finished up, and was astonished to see that the whole place had been demolished. It was just a vast empty site with a few piles of rubble.  I felt sad and it was almost as if someone, somewhere was determined it would never come back.

Apparently the site is a housing estate now, and I wonder if the streets have names like Rover Road, Leyland Lane, Wolseley Way, Austin Avenue etc

Imagine living on Allegro Avenue!  ;D

Marina Drive? >:D
You'd live in Marina Mansion
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Post by: TheBoy on 17 December 2023, 12:55:03
I had a 1996 Rover 216D which I paid £500 for, had it for a couple of years, didn't do much to it, didn't need to either, and waved it off on the back of a scrappies truck.

For a cheap run a round it was great and I can't remember why I scrapped it now.  :-\
218 wasn't it?  Sure up to the introduction of the L series, it was a 1.8 available it 2 states of tune?  Bit agricultural when cold, but rock solid engine if an oil feed pipe didn't fall off (that was a recall I seem to remember).
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Post by: TheBoy on 17 December 2023, 12:59:06
When I first met Mrs TB she had an Austin Metro.  We called it the Thrashmobile, as it was proper thrashable, and boy did I thrash that one ;D.  As it was the VP one, it had superb seats, and the MG Metro tuned version of the engine...  ...not that it was in any way quick ;D.

When one of my Bro's worked at Tickfords, they did a unique turbo version for the director's missus, and Bro used to bring it home all the time to iron out the jetting, ignition and boost.  That was properly quick for a A series, if quite temperamental.
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Post by: TheBoy on 17 December 2023, 13:00:12
I'm actually thinking, all the BL/AR/Rover cars we've actually owned have all been reliable, decent cars.
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Post by: Doctor Gollum on 17 December 2023, 13:31:57
There aren't many people of a certain age who haven't had a Rover at some stage of their life.
That will be me.

Never had the faintest inclination to own a BL/Rover product.
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Post by: Sir Tigger KC on 17 December 2023, 13:57:13
I had a 1996 Rover 216D which I paid £500 for, had it for a couple of years, didn't do much to it, didn't need to either, and waved it off on the back of a scrappies truck.

For a cheap run a round it was great and I can't remember why I scrapped it now.  :-\
218 wasn't it? Sure up to the introduction of the L series, it was a 1.8 available it 2 states of tune?  Bit agricultural when cold, but rock solid engine if an oil feed pipe didn't fall off (that was a recall I seem to remember).

Yes you're right.  :y
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Post by: ronnyd on 17 December 2023, 17:55:39
There aren't many people of a certain age who haven't had a Rover at some stage of their life.
That will be me.

Never had the faintest inclination to own a BL/Rover product.
I had an Austin A55 once, does that count? :D
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Post by: Doctor Gollum on 17 December 2023, 17:56:49
There aren't many people of a certain age who haven't had a Rover at some stage of their life.
That will be me.

Never had the faintest inclination to own a BL/Rover product.
I had an Austin A55 once, does that count? :D
Probably, but they're a bid old for my taste  ;)
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Post by: Rangie on 17 December 2023, 18:18:58
There aren't many people of a certain age who haven't had a Rover at some stage of their life.
That will be me.

Never had the faintest inclination to own a BL/Rover product.
I had an Austin A55 once, does that count? :D
.

My uncle had a Austin Westminster when I was a kid grey with a cream roof & cream flash along the doors, I believe it was the same six cylinder engine that was used in the Austin Healey, he bought it from Doves which was the main dealership where we lived in Addiscombe South London,I always thought it was quite flash back then.
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Post by: Andy B on 18 December 2023, 17:41:07
There aren't many people of a certain age who haven't had a Rover at some stage of their life.

I've never had a Rover or wanted a more recent Rover & am probably around your threshold 'certain age'  :) .....

the only Rover I'd consider would be a P5b Coupe  ;)
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Post by: STEMO on 18 December 2023, 18:06:59
There aren't many people of a certain age who haven't had a Rover at some stage of their life.

I've never had a Rover or wanted a more recent Rover & am probably around your threshold 'certain age'  :) .....

the only Rover I'd consider would be a P5b Coupe  ;)
You're one of the 'aren't many' then.
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Post by: Field Marshal Dr. Opti on 18 December 2023, 18:27:25
Only rover I ever had was a 623SLi, 2.3 litre Honda engine. It was great and pulled like a train from very low revs. It looked great in pewter. Think I traded it for the MGZT+.

I had a 620ti in Knightfire Red and its replacement was a British Racing Green 620ti. It was a quick car in its day.  :y
620ti was the fastest of the bunch and would still be considered fast now.

I had one for a while, properly quick car that didnt shout it :y

Just had a goggle at Google......200BHP and 0-60 in 7.5 secs. So plenty quick even today.
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Post by: Rangie on 18 December 2023, 19:06:20
My brother had the Rover 3500 S , I borrowed it a few times it sounded lovely had all the proper bits including the spare wheel on the bootlid, Lunar Grey was the colour but it looked like a very pale green, got written off unfortunately while it was parked on a Christmas Eve by a woman who was absolutely pissed out of her head. There are still quite a few nice ones about I saw a really nice one at our local car show in the summer. Funny thing my Father who really liked his motors usually had the big six cylinder Fords never had any Rover model went to a Jaguar once but then back to a MK3 Zodiac.
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Post by: Andy B on 18 December 2023, 21:22:31
There aren't many people of a certain age who haven't had a Rover at some stage of their life.

I've never had a Rover or wanted a more recent Rover & am probably around your threshold 'certain age'  :) .....

the only Rover I'd consider would be a P5b Coupe  ;)
You're one of the 'aren't many' then.
;D
Title: Re: Can I have....
Post by: STEMO on 19 December 2023, 11:50:24
You've all put me off the cream seats in the CRV, this is the car I'm looking at now:

https://www.royneedhamcarsales.co.uk/used-land-rover-freelander-barnsley-south-yorkshire-5329249
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Post by: TheBoy on 19 December 2023, 12:11:39
You've all put me off the cream seats in the CRV, this is the car I'm looking at now:

https://www.royneedhamcarsales.co.uk/used-land-rover-freelander-barnsley-south-yorkshire-5329249
Yeah, right ;D
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Post by: dave the builder on 19 December 2023, 12:11:57
You've all put me off the cream seats in the CRV, this is the car I'm looking at now:

https://www.royneedhamcarsales.co.uk/used-land-rover-freelander-barnsley-south-yorkshire-5329249
Best keep the Astra as well
for when that POS is in for repairs  :D
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Post by: ronnyd on 19 December 2023, 12:43:17
If you're still keen on CRV's, why not look for one without the hideous tan interior. I'm sure there must be plenty around with all the elderly owners dying off.  ;)
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Post by: Sir Tigger KC on 19 December 2023, 13:22:24
I tell you lads... He'll end up buying a Dacia!  ;D
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Post by: Rangie on 19 December 2023, 13:50:13
He'll suprise us all and buy an EV ..😂
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Post by: STEMO on 19 December 2023, 15:56:49
Disappointed, times two. Had a look at the Freelander, just not enough room in the back for dog crate and all the crap that goes with it.
And......he offered me £3,500 for my Astra  :(

I'll just have to live with it for now. I know, as Gollum said, it's only a seven year old Astra, but it's worth more to me than that.
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Post by: tunnie on 19 December 2023, 16:19:16
Second hand EV market is seeing some massive depreciation bargains. This was £70k 3 years ago.

Half tempted with this for the wife....

https://www.autotrader.co.uk/car-details/202312164861024?sort=relevance&make=Mercedes-Benz&model=EQC&page=2&postcode=tw75qd&advertising-location=at_cars&fromsra (https://www.autotrader.co.uk/car-details/202312164861024?sort=relevance&make=Mercedes-Benz&model=EQC&page=2&postcode=tw75qd&advertising-location=at_cars&fromsra)
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Post by: Sir Tigger KC on 19 December 2023, 16:48:38
Well if it's space you need... (https://www.autotrader.co.uk/car-details/202312154830981?sort=price-asc&advertising-location=at_cars&make=Land%20Rover&maximum-mileage=80000&model=Discovery%204&postcode=DT73NB&year-from=2012&fromsra)  8)

Otherwise, you might as well save your pension! (https://www.autotrader.co.uk/car-details/202312164869340?sort=relevance&make=Dacia&model=Duster&postcode=DT73NB&advertising-location=at_cars&fromsra)  ;D
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Post by: YZ250 on 19 December 2023, 17:02:06
Second hand EV market is seeing some massive depreciation bargains. ……..
………

It must be a worry for the car manufacturers that have put all of their eggs in one basket as the lack of uptake of EV’s could finish them off.  High insurance premiums, range anxiety or simply lack of charging availability (not everyone can charge at home) has a negative impact on the sales, and that’s before anyone mentions the fire risk. The Merc in the link, judging by the charging figures I’d have to stop and wait for it to charge at least twice just one way on the Cornwall run, and unless it was a rapid charger I could be sat there for hours on end, whereas my current car will get me there, get me back home and get me more than half way back to Cornwall on one tank. Admittedly I don’t drive to Cornwall every week but EV’s just aren’t for me. I have zero interest in them, and neither do many others, hence the car manufacturers big dilemma. If the public show no interest in EV’s and EV’s are there only source of income, then that company will die.
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Post by: STEMO on 19 December 2023, 17:03:05
Well if it's space you need... (https://www.autotrader.co.uk/car-details/202312154830981?sort=price-asc&advertising-location=at_cars&make=Land%20Rover&maximum-mileage=80000&model=Discovery%204&postcode=DT73NB&year-from=2012&fromsra)  8)

Otherwise, you might as well save your pension! (https://www.autotrader.co.uk/car-details/202312164869340?sort=relevance&make=Dacia&model=Duster&postcode=DT73NB&advertising-location=at_cars&fromsra)  ;D

If I was gonna have a duster, that would be the one. White with a lime green roof....yum  ;D
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Post by: Field Marshal Dr. Opti on 19 December 2023, 17:07:03
Well if it's space you need... (https://www.autotrader.co.uk/car-details/202312154830981?sort=price-asc&advertising-location=at_cars&make=Land%20Rover&maximum-mileage=80000&model=Discovery%204&postcode=DT73NB&year-from=2012&fromsra)  8)

Otherwise, you might as well save your pension! (https://www.autotrader.co.uk/car-details/202312164869340?sort=relevance&make=Dacia&model=Duster&postcode=DT73NB&advertising-location=at_cars&fromsra)  ;D

For the £10-£15,000 your elderly uncle has to spare he could buy an excellent almost new Dacia.

Of course it has no street cred, but then neither does he. 8)
Title: Re: Can I have....
Post by: tunnie on 19 December 2023, 17:08:22
Second hand EV market is seeing some massive depreciation bargains. ……..
………

It must be a worry for the car manufacturers that have put all of their eggs in one basket as the lack of uptake of EV’s could finish them off.  High insurance premiums, range anxiety or simply lack of charging availability (not everyone can charge at home) has a negative impact on the sales, and that’s before anyone mentions the fire risk. The Merc in the link, judging by the charging figures I’d have to stop and wait for it to charge at least twice just one way on the Cornwall run, and unless it was a rapid charger I could be sat there for hours on end, whereas my current car will get me there, get me back home and get me more than half way back to Cornwall on one tank. Admittedly I don’t drive to Cornwall every week but EV’s just aren’t for me. I have zero interest in them, and neither do many others, hence the car manufacturers big dilemma. If the public show no interest in EV’s and EV’s are there only source of income, then that company will die.

Yes true, they are not for all. But my wife's school is ~3 miles each way and many short runs per day. Weekend swimming with kids etc, same thing, 3 miles or so each way.

I can charge at home and charge for free at work. So quite temping here.

But even EV Salary Sacrifice schemes still don't make it viable. But some of these massive depreciation hits are temping. Will keep an eye on these EQC's as if they come down much more they could be come a viable option for the wife.
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Post by: Andy B on 19 December 2023, 17:08:48
Well if it's space you need... (https://www.autotrader.co.uk/car-details/202312154830981?sort=price-asc&advertising-location=at_cars&make=Land%20Rover&maximum-mileage=80000&model=Discovery%204&postcode=DT73NB&year-from=2012&fromsra)  8)

 .....

Why would a company that prides itself on making vehicles that tow things fit their tow car out with something that looks like it was fab'd up from a scrap metal skip?
I know that there's more than 1 maker of towbars
Title: Re: Can I have....
Post by: STEMO on 19 December 2023, 17:37:31
Well if it's space you need... (https://www.autotrader.co.uk/car-details/202312154830981?sort=price-asc&advertising-location=at_cars&make=Land%20Rover&maximum-mileage=80000&model=Discovery%204&postcode=DT73NB&year-from=2012&fromsra)  8)

Otherwise, you might as well save your pension! (https://www.autotrader.co.uk/car-details/202312164869340?sort=relevance&make=Dacia&model=Duster&postcode=DT73NB&advertising-location=at_cars&fromsra)  ;D

For the £10-£15,000 your elderly uncle has to spare he could buy an excellent almost new Dacia.

Of course it has no street cred, but then neither does he. 8)
Correct but, like the Freelander, not enough room at the rear. It's going to have to be an estate, probably, but that doesn't solve the problem of me sitting low down.
Title: Re: Can I have....
Post by: YZ250 on 19 December 2023, 17:49:40
Well if it's space you need... (https://www.autotrader.co.uk/car-details/202312154830981?sort=price-asc&advertising-location=at_cars&make=Land%20Rover&maximum-mileage=80000&model=Discovery%204&postcode=DT73NB&year-from=2012&fromsra)  8)
……….

The Discovery was voted an award winner recently.  Sadly the award was for the most unreliable vehicle in the UK.    :-X
Title: Re: Can I have....
Post by: Doctor Gollum on 19 December 2023, 18:41:17
Second hand EV market is seeing some massive depreciation bargains. This was £70k 3 years ago.

Half tempted with this for the wife....

https://www.autotrader.co.uk/car-details/202312164861024?sort=relevance&make=Mercedes-Benz&model=EQC&page=2&postcode=tw75qd&advertising-location=at_cars&fromsra (https://www.autotrader.co.uk/car-details/202312164861024?sort=relevance&make=Mercedes-Benz&model=EQC&page=2&postcode=tw75qd&advertising-location=at_cars&fromsra)
You could have had my R350L and £21k change...

Between the depreciation and the impending battery failure that it would be cheaper to run a G wagen.
Title: Re: Can I have....
Post by: Sir Tigger KC on 19 December 2023, 19:34:32
Well if it's space you need... (https://www.autotrader.co.uk/car-details/202312154830981?sort=price-asc&advertising-location=at_cars&make=Land%20Rover&maximum-mileage=80000&model=Discovery%204&postcode=DT73NB&year-from=2012&fromsra)  8)
……….

The Discovery was voted an award winner recently.  Sadly the award was for the most unreliable vehicle in the UK.    :-X

Like most Land Rover products maintaining them can be expensive, so people don't do it properly and then wonder why they go wrong.  ::)

That said, there are design faults like the weak crank shafts on the Disco 4's, but there are plenty going around with interstellar mileages.  :)

I had a Disco 3 for while a few years ago, and it was one of the most comfortable cars I've ever had. I sold it to my mate and it's still going strong.  :y
Title: Re: Can I have....
Post by: YZ250 on 19 December 2023, 20:24:16
Well if it's space you need... (https://www.autotrader.co.uk/car-details/202312154830981?sort=price-asc&advertising-location=at_cars&make=Land%20Rover&maximum-mileage=80000&model=Discovery%204&postcode=DT73NB&year-from=2012&fromsra)  8)
……….

The Discovery was voted an award winner recently.  Sadly the award was for the most unreliable vehicle in the UK.    :-X

Like most Land Rover products maintaining them can be expensive, so people don't do it properly and then wonder why they go wrong.  ::)

That said, there are design faults like the weak crank shafts on the Disco 4's, but there are plenty going around with interstellar mileages.  :)

I had a Disco 3 for while a few years ago, and it was one of the most comfortable cars I've ever had. I sold it to my mate and it's still going strong.  :y

It won the same award last time around as well, but I appreciate what you’re saying.  :y  My mate owns a garage workshop where he specialises in Land Rover. He’s said many times that the original owner, the one with the money, keeps the vehicle for the warranty period and then chops it in for a new one. It’s the second and third owners that then pick up all of the problems, mainly engine and suspension but very often electrics. Land Rover issues have given him a very very good lifestyle and he does have many Land Rover’s of his own, including two SVR’s, a new Carpathian spec 110 Defender, a Bowler Wildcat and several more. He admits that he probably wouldn’t buy one if he wasn’t so familiar with them.
Incidentally, the Honda Jizz won the reliability award again, but I think I’d rather drive an unreliable Land Rover than a Jizz.  ;D
Title: Re: Can I have....
Post by: Kevin Wood on 19 December 2023, 20:43:58
Between the depreciation and the impending battery failure that it would be cheaper to run a G wagen.

Nobody deserves to drive a G wagon. ;)

Had one as a pool car at a previous job. How can anything drink so much diesel while being so slow?

The one time we had a play in 4wd mode it sunk to its axles and very nearly stranded us. PoS.
Title: Re: Can I have....
Post by: Rangie on 19 December 2023, 21:03:49
Had my Range Rover TDV8 for just over 4 years now, only repairs I've had are all four central locking actuators replaced soon after I purchased it, my indie is adamant that I will never have to replace them again & so far so good, it came with four folders of maintenance history & every MOT from new it goes in for a service & MOT every August and apart from the usual checks tyres and fluid levels I don't do anything. Get somebody who knows these vehicles inside & out and they're fantastic, for £7,000 I think I've landed an absolute bargain. Would I buy a newer one ? Definitely not I'll run this one till something catastrophic occurs & be grateful I have had the opportunity to own one, on the other hand of course I could peg out before the RRS does..😂
Title: Re: Can I have....
Post by: ronnyd on 19 December 2023, 21:18:01
Well if it's space you need... (https://www.autotrader.co.uk/car-details/202312154830981?sort=price-asc&advertising-location=at_cars&make=Land%20Rover&maximum-mileage=80000&model=Discovery%204&postcode=DT73NB&year-from=2012&fromsra)  8)

Otherwise, you might as well save your pension! (https://www.autotrader.co.uk/car-details/202312164869340?sort=relevance&make=Dacia&model=Duster&postcode=DT73NB&advertising-location=at_cars&fromsra)  ;D

For the £10-£15,000 your elderly uncle has to spare he could buy an excellent almost new Dacia.

Of course it has no street cred, but then neither does he. 8)
Correct but, like the Freelander, not enough room at the rear. It's going to have to be an estate, probably, but that doesn't solve the problem of me sitting low down.
Have you completely given up on CRVs then Steve?
Title: Re: Can I have....
Post by: STEMO on 19 December 2023, 21:34:26
Well if it's space you need... (https://www.autotrader.co.uk/car-details/202312154830981?sort=price-asc&advertising-location=at_cars&make=Land%20Rover&maximum-mileage=80000&model=Discovery%204&postcode=DT73NB&year-from=2012&fromsra)  8)

Otherwise, you might as well save your pension! (https://www.autotrader.co.uk/car-details/202312164869340?sort=relevance&make=Dacia&model=Duster&postcode=DT73NB&advertising-location=at_cars&fromsra)  ;D

For the £10-£15,000 your elderly uncle has to spare he could buy an excellent almost new Dacia.

Of course it has no street cred, but then neither does he. 8)
Correct but, like the Freelander, not enough room at the rear. It's going to have to be an estate, probably, but that doesn't solve the problem of me sitting low down.
Have you completely given up on CRVs then Steve?
Don't know, Ron, I'm just a confused old man  ;D
Title: Re: Can I have....
Post by: ronnyd on 19 December 2023, 21:41:33
Well if it's space you need... (https://www.autotrader.co.uk/car-details/202312154830981?sort=price-asc&advertising-location=at_cars&make=Land%20Rover&maximum-mileage=80000&model=Discovery%204&postcode=DT73NB&year-from=2012&fromsra)  8)

Otherwise, you might as well save your pension! (https://www.autotrader.co.uk/car-details/202312164869340?sort=relevance&make=Dacia&model=Duster&postcode=DT73NB&advertising-location=at_cars&fromsra)  ;D

For the £10-£15,000 your elderly uncle has to spare he could buy an excellent almost new Dacia.

Of course it has no street cred, but then neither does he. 8)
Correct but, like the Freelander, not enough room at the rear. It's going to have to be an estate, probably, but that doesn't solve the problem of me sitting low down.
Have you completely given up on CRVs then Steve?
Don't know, Ron, I'm just a confused old man  ;D
Well, we all know that.  ;D :y
Title: Re: Can I have....
Post by: TheBoy on 21 December 2023, 08:29:09
He’s said many times that the original owner, the one with the money, keeps the vehicle for the warranty period and then chops it in for a new one. It’s the second and third owners that then pick up all of the problems, mainly engine and suspension but very often electrics.
I think that can be said of many cars TBH, not limited to any marque in particular.  My mate had a millennial neighbour with a newish BMW abandoned on the driveway, because lights started coming on on the dashboard, but he ignored it as he couldn't afford* to get it looked at, and it one of the lights was oil pressure.  As he had a loan on it, he couldn't scrap it until he'd paid the loan off.

Seems to all too common these days.


*I believe his wages were used for higher priority spend, like 60" TVs and Xboxes....
Title: Re: Can I have....
Post by: TheBoy on 21 December 2023, 08:30:24
I've had are all four central locking actuators replaced soon after I purchased it, my indie is adamant that I will never have to replace them again
Is he thinking you've only got another few months to go, Rangie ;D
Title: Re: Can I have....
Post by: Rangie on 21 December 2023, 09:40:48
I've had are all four central locking actuators replaced soon after I purchased it, my indie is adamant that I will never have to replace them again
Is he thinking you've only got another few months to go, Rangie ;D
.

Who knows & certainly no problems since he seems to know exactly what he's doing with them , a simple alteration to the mechanism apparently I'm quite happy with it. Perhaps having 45 years  experience with them helps, he actually had one in bits and explained & showed me which part causes the failure of them it costs a few pence  to modify them. I couldn't be arsed to mess around with them myself , one door had an intermittent fault and one seemed a bit slow so I got him to change all four.
Title: Re: Can I have....
Post by: TheBoy on 21 December 2023, 10:00:34
Who knows & certainly no problems since he seems to know exactly what he's doing with them , a simple alteration to the mechanism apparently I'm quite happy with it. Perhaps having 45 years  experience with them helps, he actually had one in bits and explained & showed me which part causes the failure of them it costs a few pence  to modify them.
In the genuine parts, made by Brose, 2 things go - the motor itself and the switch.  The switch on a film ribbon and that area is in potting compound, so you can't get in there without ruining the ribbon.

On the cheap chinky parts, all bits go wrong IME, although there is a piece of spring loaded plastic that snaps that seems to be the most common.  Not worth using the cheap pattern ones due to effort needed to replace them, despite JLR's laughable price.
Title: Re: Can I have....
Post by: Rangie on 21 December 2023, 10:15:33
I wouldn't have a clue if you're right or wrong all I know is that it's been perfect ever since 👍
Title: Re: Can I have....
Post by: TheBoy on 21 December 2023, 11:53:01
I wouldn't have a clue if you're right or wrong all I know is that it's been perfect ever since 👍
To be honest, the genuine parts are good for about 5-8yrs, so you should be good for a couple of years now :)
Title: Re: Can I have....
Post by: Rangie on 21 December 2023, 14:07:38
I wouldn't have a clue if you're right or wrong all I know is that it's been perfect ever since 👍
To be honest, the genuine parts are good for about 5-8yrs, so you should be good for a couple of years now :)
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If it makes you happy to think along those lines crack on, I'll stick with the professionals advice who work on these vehicles every day.

Title: Re: Can I have....
Post by: TheBoy on 21 December 2023, 20:08:13
I wouldn't have a clue if you're right or wrong all I know is that it's been perfect ever since 👍
To be honest, the genuine parts are good for about 5-8yrs, so you should be good for a couple of years now :)
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If it makes you happy to think along those lines crack on, I'll stick with the professionals advice who work on these vehicles every day.
By that mentality, you'd trust franchised dealers ;D
Title: Re: Can I have....
Post by: Rangie on 21 December 2023, 20:50:05
I wouldn't have a clue if you're right or wrong all I know is that it's been perfect ever since 👍
To be honest, the genuine parts are good for about 5-8yrs, so you should be good for a couple of years now :)
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If it makes you happy to think along those lines crack on, I'll stick with the professionals advice who work on these vehicles every day.
By that mentality, you'd trust franchised dealers ;D
.

 This is getting a little bit silly now  I haven't mentioned franchised dealers simply just my experience of a brilliant independent who specialises in Land Rover vehicles, he gave me the option to use a "normal " LR actuator or one that they themselves have altered that works properly, he has exactly the same vehicle as mine and is confident that they perform much better, so my thoughts are if it's good enough for him why not give it a try ?  Quite straightforward really.👍
Title: Re: Can I have....
Post by: TheBoy on 21 December 2023, 20:54:30
My apologies, just trying to help the gullible
Title: Re: Can I have....
Post by: Rangie on 21 December 2023, 21:05:03
My apologies, just trying to help the gullible

Pathetic
Title: Re: Can I have....
Post by: Doctor Gollum on 21 December 2023, 21:29:27
Credit where it's due, 45 years experience on a 20 year old platform is almost impressive... >:D
Title: Re: Can I have....
Post by: TheBoy on 22 December 2023, 12:05:00
My apologies, just trying to help the gullible

Pathetic
Much like editing your previous reply, so my reply is out of context ;)

But as a fellow owner of a JLR product, I am interested to hear what make part they are actually using, and what modification they make, as mine will soon be coming around to need doing again, as some are now approaching 6 years old...

...and having access to the warranty stats, I have a pretty good handle on the expected life and failure modes (generally switches or motor on the genuine part, add a piece of sprung plastic that controls the actuator that activates the switch setup on the chinese equivalent cloned part that is sold as the aftermarket option in the aftermarket network)...


If you want to be helpful, that is.
Title: Re: Can I have....
Post by: Rangie on 22 December 2023, 12:24:06
There would be absolutely no point as you don't appear to have any confidence in what I have explained, you made your mind up from the beginning that I was talking utter nonsense, I simply spoke with the guy who services/repairs the RR and he thought he had a better solution to a problem that seems to crop up with these vehicles. I have recommended the indi to other members on the various RR forums & they have been happy with the work carried out, most faults can have a solution .
Title: Re: Can I have....
Post by: Doctor Gollum on 22 December 2023, 12:57:31
You don't have to be quite such a knob about it.

All TB asked was what make parts your indi place uses because JLR obviously uses similar parts in everything they produce, whether it's a RRS or a Jaaag.
Title: Re: Can I have....
Post by: VXL V6 on 22 December 2023, 13:44:06
Had my Range Rover TDV8 for just over 4 years now, only repairs I've had are all four central locking actuators replaced soon after I purchased it, my indie is adamant that I will never have to replace them again & so far so good, it came with four folders of maintenance history & every MOT from new it goes in for a service & MOT every August and apart from the usual checks tyres and fluid levels I don't do anything. Get somebody who knows these vehicles inside & out and they're fantastic, for £7,000 I think I've landed an absolute bargain. Would I buy a newer one ? Definitely not I'll run this one till something catastrophic occurs & be grateful I have had the opportunity to own one, on the other hand of course I could peg out before the RRS does..😂

You forgot the front suspension arms, wheel alignment, Parking Brake, Brake pipes, alarm sensor etc that I recall you posting about on here in the past.....
Title: Re: Can I have....
Post by: Doctor Gollum on 22 December 2023, 14:06:17
Why ruin a perfectly good pub yarn... >:D besides, they're all service items aren't they ::)
Title: Re: Can I have....
Post by: Rangie on 22 December 2023, 14:19:46
Had my Range Rover TDV8 for just over 4 years now, only repairs I've had are all four central locking actuators replaced soon after I purchased it, my indie is adamant that I will never have to replace them again & so far so good, it came with four folders of maintenance history & every MOT from new it goes in for a service & MOT every August and apart from the usual checks tyres and fluid levels I don't do anything. Get somebody who knows these vehicles inside & out and they're fantastic, for £7,000 I think I've landed an absolute bargain. Would I buy a newer one ? Definitely not I'll run this one till something catastrophic occurs & be grateful I have had the opportunity to own one, on the other hand of course I could peg out before the RRS does..😂

You forgot the front suspension arms, wheel alignment, Parking Brake, Brake pipes, alarm sensor etc that I recall you posting about on here in the past.....
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I couldn't forget about them as I paid the bill 😂
When I bought it I asked him to go through it & bring it right up to scratch, seemed a sensible thing to do on a 12 year old vehicle, and as I haven't the ability a recommended independent seemed the best option.👍
Title: Re: Can I have....
Post by: TheBoy on 22 December 2023, 14:59:14
There would be absolutely no point as you don't appear to have any confidence in what I have explained
Well, if you are unwilling to explain...

I was talking utter nonsense
...



But not worth getting into a heated debate over.  If you have a genuine solution to a problem nobody else can reliably solve, I urge you to post it for the benefit of others.

Beyond that, I wish you and yours a very Merry Christmas.
Title: Re: Can I have....
Post by: Rangie on 23 December 2023, 07:47:05
I have a couple of times but only received negative comments, the most recent was the RR key repair , someone even suggested that my vehicle would now be stolen and it wasn't  worth the risk ! But on the RR forum the guy who does the repairs has done several since I recommended him. So in future I won't recommend or mention any services that I receive good service from. Have a great Christmas , and enjoy any time off.🎄🎄🎄
Title: Re: Can I have....
Post by: Viral_Jim on 27 December 2023, 14:29:00

But as a fellow owner of a JLR product, I am interested to hear what make part they are actually using, and what modification they make, as mine will soon be coming around to need doing again, as some are now approaching 6 years old...

...and having access to the warranty stats, I have a pretty good handle on the expected life and failure modes (generally switches or motor on the genuine part, add a piece of sprung plastic that controls the actuator that activates the switch setup on the chinese equivalent cloned part that is sold as the aftermarket option in the aftermarket network)...


If you want to be helpful, that is.


I have found an aftermarket part for swmbo's Evoque. Allows for simple locking and unlocking from the driver's seat and so far has proved 100% reliable. Also cost £2.99p.

https://imgur.com/gallery/EgeLOMY (https://imgur.com/gallery/EgeLOMY)

I'm yet to establish why she isn't 100% satisfied...
Title: Re: Can I have....
Post by: ronnyd on 27 December 2023, 15:07:38

But as a fellow owner of a JLR product, I am interested to hear what make part they are actually using, and what modification they make, as mine will soon be coming around to need doing again, as some are now approaching 6 years old...

...and having access to the warranty stats, I have a pretty good handle on the expected life and failure modes (generally switches or motor on the genuine part, add a piece of sprung plastic that controls the actuator that activates the switch setup on the chinese equivalent cloned part that is sold as the aftermarket option in the aftermarket network)...


If you want to be helpful, that is.


I have found an aftermarket part for swmbo's Evoque. Allows for simple locking and unlocking from the driver's seat and so far has proved 100% reliable. Also cost £2.99p.

https://imgur.com/gallery/EgeLOMY (https://imgur.com/gallery/EgeLOMY)

I'm yet to establish why she isn't 100% satisfied...

Perhaps it's the wrong shape.  ;)
Title: Re: Can I have....
Post by: Migv6 le Frog Fan on 27 December 2023, 15:13:20

But as a fellow owner of a JLR product, I am interested to hear what make part they are actually using, and what modification they make, as mine will soon be coming around to need doing again, as some are now approaching 6 years old...

...and having access to the warranty stats, I have a pretty good handle on the expected life and failure modes (generally switches or motor on the genuine part, add a piece of sprung plastic that controls the actuator that activates the switch setup on the chinese equivalent cloned part that is sold as the aftermarket option in the aftermarket network)...


If you want to be helpful, that is.


I have found an aftermarket part for swmbo's Evoque. Allows for simple locking and unlocking from the driver's seat and so far has proved 100% reliable. Also cost £2.99p.

https://imgur.com/gallery/EgeLOMY (https://imgur.com/gallery/EgeLOMY)

I'm yet to establish why she isn't 100% satisfied...

Because she is a she. So it simply isnt possible.  :)
Title: Re: Can I have....
Post by: STEMO on 27 December 2023, 15:58:19

But as a fellow owner of a JLR product, I am interested to hear what make part they are actually using, and what modification they make, as mine will soon be coming around to need doing again, as some are now approaching 6 years old...

...and having access to the warranty stats, I have a pretty good handle on the expected life and failure modes (generally switches or motor on the genuine part, add a piece of sprung plastic that controls the actuator that activates the switch setup on the chinese equivalent cloned part that is sold as the aftermarket option in the aftermarket network)...


If you want to be helpful, that is.


I have found  ;Dan aftermarket part for swmbo's Evoque. Allows for simple locking and unlocking from the driver's seat and so far has proved 100% reliable. Also cost £2.99p.

https://imgur.com/gallery/EgeLOMY (https://imgur.com/gallery/EgeLOMY)

I'm yet to establish why she isn't 100% satisfied...

Perhaps it's the wrong shape.  ;)
Yes, Ron. A big, black dildo on the end of a stick would serve just as well in the door locking department, and would also come in handy on a long journey  ;D
Title: Re: Can I have....
Post by: STEMO on 28 December 2023, 19:15:14
Back to my original quest. Going to look at this tomorrow:

https://www.carshop.co.uk/used-car/FORD/MONDEO/NK68YFH
Title: Re: Can I have....
Post by: Migv6 le Frog Fan on 28 December 2023, 19:58:30
Do the pipe & slippers come as standard  or optional extras ?
Title: Re: Can I have....
Post by: Viral_Jim on 28 December 2023, 20:51:30
Back to my original quest. Going to look at this tomorrow:

https://www.carshop.co.uk/used-car/FORD/MONDEO/NK68YFH

Looks nice! I guess ultimately it depends on what you want in terms of space. Whether it's boot floor size or overall volume that matters more.

An S-max might give you a higher driving position than the Mondeo (if that's something you care about) while being very similar underneath.

One thing I would say is check if the auto is a proper one, or a power shift dsg type affair. Those are well known to be problematic but I don't know when ford phased them out in favour of a more conventional slush box.
Title: Re: Can I have....
Post by: Field Marshal Dr. Opti on 28 December 2023, 21:03:21
Do the pipe & slippers come as standard  or optional extras ?

I prefer it to the Honda he was going on about.

The Mondeo is actually quite good to drive whereas the Honda is more for deceased people. >:D
Title: Re: Can I have....
Post by: STEMO on 28 December 2023, 21:40:15
Do the pipe & slippers come as standard  or optional extras ?
Pipe and slippers are preferable to the coffin that comes with the omega  ;D
Title: Re: Can I have....
Post by: STEMO on 28 December 2023, 21:42:09
Back to my original quest. Going to look at this tomorrow:

https://www.carshop.co.uk/used-car/FORD/MONDEO/NK68YFH

Looks nice! I guess ultimately it depends on what you want in terms of space. Whether it's boot floor size or overall volume that matters more.

An S-max might give you a higher driving position than the Mondeo (if that's something you care about) while being very similar underneath.

One thing I would say is check if the auto is a proper one, or a power shift dsg type affair. Those are well known to be problematic but I don't know when ford phased them out in favour of a more conventional slush box.
Thanks Jim, most of the S Max I looked at had starship miles and looked a bit tatty. They are bought to do a certain job and it takes its toll.
Title: Re: Can I have....
Post by: Rangie on 28 December 2023, 22:41:45
Looks a nice car Steve, nice mileage & parts availability usually good & reasonably priced+ plenty of room for your four legged friend.
Title: Re: Can I have....
Post by: Viral_Jim on 29 December 2023, 09:17:32
Thanks Jim, most of the S Max I looked at had starship miles and looked a bit tatty. They are bought to do a certain job and it takes its toll.

Too true, taxis or family cars. Either way, they seem to age in dog years and wind up inexplicably sticky 🤢.
Title: Re: Can I have....
Post by: tunnie on 29 December 2023, 10:55:43
Back to my original quest. Going to look at this tomorrow:

https://www.carshop.co.uk/used-car/FORD/MONDEO/NK68YFH

Do a search on Ford Powershift gearboxes, as when looking at S-Max for MrsT most of the forums said the Powershift boxes woeful and easily fail.
Title: Re: Can I have....
Post by: tunnie on 29 December 2023, 10:59:45
Quick Google suggests Powershift was started to be phased out in 2018, not sure the replacement name. But that Mondeo would have the older box, big enough concern for me as S-Max was crossed off the list for a MrsT mummy bus.
Title: Re: Can I have....
Post by: Andy B on 29 December 2023, 11:26:05
....
Do a search on Ford Powershift gearboxes,  .....

aka Ford Powersh1t g/box
Title: Re: Can I have....
Post by: TheBoy on 29 December 2023, 11:55:56
Says Powershift in the title, so  :-\

But, then, even if it's a "common problem", what does that mean? 1% suffer? 10% suffer?  If the latter, that's still a 90% chance it won't....   (I said that about the stupid plastic cam covers on mine!)
Title: Re: Can I have....
Post by: STEMO on 29 December 2023, 12:20:47
Didn't like it enough to part with 14 grand. It was clean and tidy but very ordinary.

I'm getting very picky in my old age, probably because I know my next one will probably be my last one.

I'm looking for something that probably doesn't exist.
Title: Re: Can I have....
Post by: tunnie on 29 December 2023, 12:24:12
Didn't like it enough to part with 14 grand. It was clean and tidy but very ordinary.

I'm getting very picky in my old age, probably because I know my next one will probably be my last one.

I'm looking for something that probably doesn't exist.

What are your requirements?
Title: Re: Can I have....
Post by: STEMO on 29 December 2023, 12:24:34
I think the Manchester airport run yesterday showed me that there's nothing wrong with my astra. It's just me being a diva, and wanting to swap for reasons I'm probably making up.
Title: Re: Can I have....
Post by: STEMO on 29 December 2023, 12:26:57
Didn't like it enough to part with 14 grand. It was clean and tidy but very ordinary.

I'm getting very picky in my old age, probably because I know my next one will probably be my last one.

I'm looking for something that probably doesn't exist.

What are your requirements?
I'd much prefer an estate to the hatchback I've got, but not enough to spend the silly money that most sellers seem to want. I'll know what I want when I see it, if that makes sense.
Title: Re: Can I have....
Post by: Field Marshal Dr. Opti on 29 December 2023, 12:32:56
You say the Astra is too small.

Do you regularly use the back seats?

If not there should be plenty of room for the mutt cage with the rear seats folded flat.

As you say yourself.....it's a good car that will net you next to SFA if you sell it.
Title: Re: Can I have....
Post by: tunnie on 29 December 2023, 12:34:34
As a newly converted BMW fan, I could recommend the F31 Estate. But go for the larger 6 cylinder engine. Mostly diesels around, very few petrols in the Saloon/Estate.

https://www.autotrader.co.uk/car-details/202312014459794?sort=mileage&twcs=true&advertising-location=at_cars&body-type=Estate&make=BMW&maximum-mileage=80000&minimum-badge-engine-size=3.0&model=3%20Series&page=3&postcode=tw75qd&price-from=13000&price-to=17000&radius=1500&fromsra (https://www.autotrader.co.uk/car-details/202312014459794?sort=mileage&twcs=true&advertising-location=at_cars&body-type=Estate&make=BMW&maximum-mileage=80000&minimum-badge-engine-size=3.0&model=3%20Series&page=3&postcode=tw75qd&price-from=13000&price-to=17000&radius=1500&fromsra)
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Post by: Doctor Gollum on 29 December 2023, 12:37:00
Says Powershift in the title, so  :-\

But, then, even if it's a "common problem", what does that mean? 1% suffer? 10% suffer?  If the latter, that's still a 90% chance it won't....   (I said that about the stupid plastic cam covers on mine!)
The following will give an idea of the issue and Ford's attitude to it...

https://youtu.be/3Ma8IwNiZqY?si=n6jK2_59YSqWZTud.
Title: Re: Can I have....
Post by: STEMO on 29 December 2023, 12:37:46
You say the Astra is too small.

Do you regularly use the back seats?

If not there should be plenty of room for the mutt cage with the rear seats folded flat.

As you say yourself.....it's a good car that will net you next to SFA if you sell it.
You are correct, Opti. Any car that I bought would end up looking like a mobile dog kennel, as this one does. I'm kidding myself that I can virtually have two cars on four wheels, with the part behind the back seats belonging to muttley, and everything forward being clean and tidy and belonging to me. It just wouldn't work when I'm walking through muddy fields every day.
I'll have a word with myself.
Title: Re: Can I have....
Post by: Doctor Gollum on 29 December 2023, 12:47:48
Thanks Jim, most of the S Max I looked at had starship miles and looked a bit tatty. They are bought to do a certain job and it takes its toll.

Too true, taxis or family cars. Either way, they seem to age in dog years and wind up inexplicably sticky 🤢.
Ex plod dog van would tick the box. Well maintained and ready equipped for all doggies needs.
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Post by: Sir Tigger KC on 29 December 2023, 13:51:35
Thanks Jim, most of the S Max I looked at had starship miles and looked a bit tatty. They are bought to do a certain job and it takes its toll.

Too true, taxis or family cars. Either way, they seem to age in dog years and wind up inexplicably sticky 🤢.
Ex plod dog van would tick the box. Well maintained and ready equipped for all doggies needs.

Yes good idea, and I'm sure the lad and his GF wouldn't mind sitting in the cages on the airport runs.  ;D
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Post by: Field Marshal Dr. Opti on 29 December 2023, 14:27:23
As a newly converted BMW fan, I could recommend the F31 Estate. But go for the larger 6 cylinder engine. Mostly diesels around, very few petrols in the Saloon/Estate.

https://www.autotrader.co.uk/car-details/202312014459794?sort=mileage&twcs=true&advertising-location=at_cars&body-type=Estate&make=BMW&maximum-mileage=80000&minimum-badge-engine-size=3.0&model=3%20Series&page=3&postcode=tw75qd&price-from=13000&price-to=17000&radius=1500&fromsra (https://www.autotrader.co.uk/car-details/202312014459794?sort=mileage&twcs=true&advertising-location=at_cars&body-type=Estate&make=BMW&maximum-mileage=80000&minimum-badge-engine-size=3.0&model=3%20Series&page=3&postcode=tw75qd&price-from=13000&price-to=17000&radius=1500&fromsra)

313 BHP and presumably plenty of derv torque.

Exhausts look like a petrol car to my eyes.
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Post by: tunnie on 29 December 2023, 14:33:30
As a newly converted BMW fan, I could recommend the F31 Estate. But go for the larger 6 cylinder engine. Mostly diesels around, very few petrols in the Saloon/Estate.

https://www.autotrader.co.uk/car-details/202312014459794?sort=mileage&twcs=true&advertising-location=at_cars&body-type=Estate&make=BMW&maximum-mileage=80000&minimum-badge-engine-size=3.0&model=3%20Series&page=3&postcode=tw75qd&price-from=13000&price-to=17000&radius=1500&fromsra (https://www.autotrader.co.uk/car-details/202312014459794?sort=mileage&twcs=true&advertising-location=at_cars&body-type=Estate&make=BMW&maximum-mileage=80000&minimum-badge-engine-size=3.0&model=3%20Series&page=3&postcode=tw75qd&price-from=13000&price-to=17000&radius=1500&fromsra)

313 BHP and presumably plenty of derv torque.

Exhausts look like a petrol car to my eyes.

F Series, only 35i and 40i petrols had twins either side of the number plate (from the factory)
Title: Re: Can I have....
Post by: Sir Tigger KC on 29 December 2023, 17:45:23
Didn't like it enough to part with 14 grand. It was clean and tidy but very ordinary.

I'm getting very picky in my old age, probably because I know my next one will probably be my last one.

I'm looking for something that probably doesn't exist.

I've lost track...  ::)  Did you try out a CRV?  :)
Title: Re: Can I have....
Post by: TheBoy on 29 December 2023, 17:55:43
I'll know what I want when I see it, if that makes sense.
I know exactly what you mean.  I still haven't found anything that interests me enough to even go look at to replace mine.

I think what I want is a bog standard XJ diesel, but with an engine not designed by a thick moron.
Title: Re: Can I have....
Post by: Viral_Jim on 30 December 2023, 01:10:15
As a newly converted BMW fan, I could recommend the F31 Estate. But go for the larger 6 cylinder engine. Mostly diesels around, very few petrols in the Saloon/Estate.

https://www.autotrader.co.uk/car-details/202312014459794?sort=mileage&twcs=true&advertising-location=at_cars&body-type=Estate&make=BMW&maximum-mileage=80000&minimum-badge-engine-size=3.0&model=3%20Series&page=3&postcode=tw75qd&price-from=13000&price-to=17000&radius=1500&fromsra (https://www.autotrader.co.uk/car-details/202312014459794?sort=mileage&twcs=true&advertising-location=at_cars&body-type=Estate&make=BMW&maximum-mileage=80000&minimum-badge-engine-size=3.0&model=3%20Series&page=3&postcode=tw75qd&price-from=13000&price-to=17000&radius=1500&fromsra)

313 BHP and presumably plenty of derv torque.

Exhausts look like a petrol car to my eyes.

Mine was exactly this, but in luxury trim, so no m-sport stick ones. It was hugely capable and I only got rid of it to fund my divorce.

I'd rate it as one of the best estate cars of it's age/size. Silly quick when you wanted it, but able to touch 50mpg when on a run on company time  :y.

And the exhaust tips were the same on mine.
Title: Re: Can I have....
Post by: STEMO on 30 December 2023, 07:18:30
As a newly converted BMW fan, I could recommend the F31 Estate. But go for the larger 6 cylinder engine. Mostly diesels around, very few petrols in the Saloon/Estate.

https://www.autotrader.co.uk/car-details/202312014459794?sort=mileage&twcs=true&advertising-location=at_cars&body-type=Estate&make=BMW&maximum-mileage=80000&minimum-badge-engine-size=3.0&model=3%20Series&page=3&postcode=tw75qd&price-from=13000&price-to=17000&radius=1500&fromsra (https://www.autotrader.co.uk/car-details/202312014459794?sort=mileage&twcs=true&advertising-location=at_cars&body-type=Estate&make=BMW&maximum-mileage=80000&minimum-badge-engine-size=3.0&model=3%20Series&page=3&postcode=tw75qd&price-from=13000&price-to=17000&radius=1500&fromsra)

313 BHP and presumably plenty of derv torque.

Exhausts look like a petrol car to my eyes.

Mine was exactly this, but in luxury trim, so no m-sport stick ones. It was hugely capable and I only got rid of it to fund my divorce.

I'd rate it as one of the best estate cars of it's age/size. Silly quick when you wanted it, but able to touch 50mpg when on a run on company time  :y.

And the exhaust tips were the same on mine.
But not that particular one. Four owners in seven years and no basic history check.
Title: Re: Can I have....
Post by: Viral_Jim on 30 December 2023, 07:54:47
No, personally I would not buy a car that looked like that.

I may be being unfair (which after all is what the internet is for) but that looks like it was owned by someone that would rather spend money on some 4d number plates or carbon fibre-ish tat than having the car maintained properly.