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[tunnie]

Second hand EV market is seeing some massive depreciation bargains. ……..
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It must be a worry for the car manufacturers that have put all of their eggs in one basket as the lack of uptake of EV’s could finish them off.  High insurance premiums, range anxiety or simply lack of charging availability (not everyone can charge at home) has a negative impact on the sales, and that’s before anyone mentions the fire risk. The Merc in the link, judging by the charging figures I’d have to stop and wait for it to charge at least twice just one way on the Cornwall run, and unless it was a rapid charger I could be sat there for hours on end, whereas my current car will get me there, get me back home and get me more than half way back to Cornwall on one tank. Admittedly I don’t drive to Cornwall every week but EV’s just aren’t for me. I have zero interest in them, and neither do many others, hence the car manufacturers big dilemma. If the public show no interest in EV’s and EV’s are there only source of income, then that company will die.

Yes true, they are not for all. But my wife's school is ~3 miles each way and many short runs per day. Weekend swimming with kids etc, same thing, 3 miles or so each way.

I can charge at home and charge for free at work. So quite temping here.

But even EV Salary Sacrifice schemes still don't make it viable. But some of these massive depreciation hits are temping. Will keep an eye on these EQC's as if they come down much more they could be come a viable option for the wife.

[Andy B]

Well if it's space you need... 

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Why would a company that prides itself on making vehicles that tow things fit their tow car out with something that looks like it was fab'd up from a scrap metal skip?
I know that there's more than 1 maker of towbars

[STEMO]

Well if it's space you need... 

Otherwise, you might as well save your pension! 

For the £10-£15,000 your elderly uncle has to spare he could buy an excellent almost new Dacia.

Of course it has no street cred, but then neither does he.

Correct but, like the Freelander, not enough room at the rear. It's going to have to be an estate, probably, but that doesn't solve the problem of me sitting low down.

[YZ250]

Well if it's space you need... 
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The Discovery was voted an award winner recently.  Sadly the award was for the most unreliable vehicle in the UK.   

[Doctor Gollum]

Second hand EV market is seeing some massive depreciation bargains. This was £70k 3 years ago.

Half tempted with this for the wife....

https://www.autotrader.co.uk/car-details/202312164861024?sort=relevance&make=Mercedes-Benz&model=EQC&page=2&postcode=tw75qd&advertising-location=at_cars&fromsra

You could have had my R350L and £21k change...

Between the depreciation and the impending battery failure that it would be cheaper to run a G wagen.

[Sir Tigger KC]

Well if it's space you need... 
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The Discovery was voted an award winner recently.  Sadly the award was for the most unreliable vehicle in the UK.   

Like most Land Rover products maintaining them can be expensive, so people don't do it properly and then wonder why they go wrong. 

That said, there are design faults like the weak crank shafts on the Disco 4's, but there are plenty going around with interstellar mileages. 

I had a Disco 3 for while a few years ago, and it was one of the most comfortable cars I've ever had. I sold it to my mate and it's still going strong. 

[YZ250]

Well if it's space you need... 
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The Discovery was voted an award winner recently.  Sadly the award was for the most unreliable vehicle in the UK.   

Like most Land Rover products maintaining them can be expensive, so people don't do it properly and then wonder why they go wrong. 

That said, there are design faults like the weak crank shafts on the Disco 4's, but there are plenty going around with interstellar mileages. 

I had a Disco 3 for while a few years ago, and it was one of the most comfortable cars I've ever had. I sold it to my mate and it's still going strong. 

It won the same award last time around as well, but I appreciate what you’re saying.    My mate owns a garage workshop where he specialises in Land Rover. He’s said many times that the original owner, the one with the money, keeps the vehicle for the warranty period and then chops it in for a new one. It’s the second and third owners that then pick up all of the problems, mainly engine and suspension but very often electrics. Land Rover issues have given him a very very good lifestyle and he does have many Land Rover’s of his own, including two SVR’s, a new Carpathian spec 110 Defender, a Bowler Wildcat and several more. He admits that he probably wouldn’t buy one if he wasn’t so familiar with them.
Incidentally, the Honda Jizz won the reliability award again, but I think I’d rather drive an unreliable Land Rover than a Jizz. 

[Kevin Wood]

Between the depreciation and the impending battery failure that it would be cheaper to run a G wagen.

Nobody deserves to drive a G wagon.

Had one as a pool car at a previous job. How can anything drink so much diesel while being so slow?

The one time we had a play in 4wd mode it sunk to its axles and very nearly stranded us. PoS.

[Rangie]

Had my Range Rover TDV8 for just over 4 years now, only repairs I've had are all four central locking actuators replaced soon after I purchased it, my indie is adamant that I will never have to replace them again & so far so good, it came with four folders of maintenance history & every MOT from new it goes in for a service & MOT every August and apart from the usual checks tyres and fluid levels I don't do anything. Get somebody who knows these vehicles inside & out and they're fantastic, for £7,000 I think I've landed an absolute bargain. Would I buy a newer one ? Definitely not I'll run this one till something catastrophic occurs & be grateful I have had the opportunity to own one, on the other hand of course I could peg out before the RRS does..😂

[ronnyd]

Well if it's space you need... 

Otherwise, you might as well save your pension! 

For the £10-£15,000 your elderly uncle has to spare he could buy an excellent almost new Dacia.

Of course it has no street cred, but then neither does he.

Correct but, like the Freelander, not enough room at the rear. It's going to have to be an estate, probably, but that doesn't solve the problem of me sitting low down.

Have you completely given up on CRVs then Steve?

[STEMO]

Well if it's space you need... 

Otherwise, you might as well save your pension! 

For the £10-£15,000 your elderly uncle has to spare he could buy an excellent almost new Dacia.

Of course it has no street cred, but then neither does he.

Correct but, like the Freelander, not enough room at the rear. It's going to have to be an estate, probably, but that doesn't solve the problem of me sitting low down.

Have you completely given up on CRVs then Steve?

Don't know, Ron, I'm just a confused old man 

[ronnyd]

Well if it's space you need... 

Otherwise, you might as well save your pension! 

For the £10-£15,000 your elderly uncle has to spare he could buy an excellent almost new Dacia.

Of course it has no street cred, but then neither does he.

Correct but, like the Freelander, not enough room at the rear. It's going to have to be an estate, probably, but that doesn't solve the problem of me sitting low down.

Have you completely given up on CRVs then Steve?

Don't know, Ron, I'm just a confused old man 

Well, we all know that. 

[TheBoy]

He’s said many times that the original owner, the one with the money, keeps the vehicle for the warranty period and then chops it in for a new one. It’s the second and third owners that then pick up all of the problems, mainly engine and suspension but very often electrics.

I think that can be said of many cars TBH, not limited to any marque in particular.  My mate had a millennial neighbour with a newish BMW abandoned on the driveway, because lights started coming on on the dashboard, but he ignored it as he couldn't afford* to get it looked at, and it one of the lights was oil pressure.  As he had a loan on it, he couldn't scrap it until he'd paid the loan off.

Seems to all too common these days.


*I believe his wages were used for higher priority spend, like 60" TVs and Xboxes....

[TheBoy]

I've had are all four central locking actuators replaced soon after I purchased it, my indie is adamant that I will never have to replace them again

Is he thinking you've only got another few months to go, Rangie

[Rangie]

I've had are all four central locking actuators replaced soon after I purchased it, my indie is adamant that I will never have to replace them again

Is he thinking you've only got another few months to go, Rangie

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Who knows & certainly no problems since he seems to know exactly what he's doing with them , a simple alteration to the mechanism apparently I'm quite happy with it. Perhaps having 45 years  experience with them helps, he actually had one in bits and explained & showed me which part causes the failure of them it costs a few pence  to modify them. I couldn't be arsed to mess around with them myself , one door had an intermittent fault and one seemed a bit slow so I got him to change all four.