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[Dishevelled Den]

And yes.  I did enjoy using an unmarked patrol car.....        

  Go on ya boy ye.

[paul.lovejoy]

I use stealth mode for the same reasons as others have said.  My employer knows what I do on OOF and as such, I give least possible chance to them of seeing me online, as it were, during working hours when I manage to wangle time to myself outwith tea/lunchbreaks.

The lazy bit of my mindset cant be arsed with the faff to change it, dependant on the time of day, just to satisfy those who want to know when I am online.

And yes.  I did enjoy using an unmarked patrol car.....        

made me chuckle 

[Darth Loo-knee]

I use stealth mode for the same reasons as others have said.  My employer knows what I do on OOF and as such, I give least possible chance to them of seeing me online, as it were, during working hours when I manage to wangle time to myself outwith tea/lunchbreaks.

The lazy bit of my mindset cant be arsed with the faff to change it, dependant on the time of day, just to satisfy those who want to know when I am online.

And yes.  I did enjoy using an unmarked patrol car.....        

made me chuckle 

Not when he pulls you over though eh

[hotel21]

I use stealth mode for the same reasons as others have said.  My employer knows what I do on OOF and as such, I give least possible chance to them of seeing me online, as it were, during working hours when I manage to wangle time to myself outwith tea/lunchbreaks.

The lazy bit of my mindset cant be arsed with the faff to change it, dependant on the time of day, just to satisfy those who want to know when I am online.

And yes.  I did enjoy using an unmarked patrol car.....        

made me chuckle 

Not when he pulls you over though eh

Need both hands to pull you over fella.....      

[paul.lovejoy]

I use stealth mode for the same reasons as others have said.  My employer knows what I do on OOF and as such, I give least possible chance to them of seeing me online, as it were, during working hours when I manage to wangle time to myself outwith tea/lunchbreaks.

The lazy bit of my mindset cant be arsed with the faff to change it, dependant on the time of day, just to satisfy those who want to know when I am online.

And yes.  I did enjoy using an unmarked patrol car.....        

made me chuckle 

Not when he pulls you over though eh

  it was always a fair cop govner

[Darth Loo-knee]

I use stealth mode for the same reasons as others have said.  My employer knows what I do on OOF and as such, I give least possible chance to them of seeing me online, as it were, during working hours when I manage to wangle time to myself outwith tea/lunchbreaks.

The lazy bit of my mindset cant be arsed with the faff to change it, dependant on the time of day, just to satisfy those who want to know when I am online.

And yes.  I did enjoy using an unmarked patrol car.....        

made me chuckle 

Not when he pulls you over though eh

Need both hands to pull you over fella.....      

Not now I am a shadow of my old self

[RobG]

You are wrong.

Why don`t the admin team grow a pair and put it into type exactly why it`s "wrong" then or does this "phantom clique" exist within the confines of their ivory tower aka "chat room"
I would imagine there are quite a few members awaiting the admin take on all this, or is it going to be a case of "sometime never"

RobG - seems you've definately got a bee in your bonnet about something. Which is good, and precisely what this thread is about .

However, not quite sure I understand what your are getting at  . Can you ask the question/query again, in a way a dimwit like me would understand

Don`t do "dimwit" so I`ll search the forum and get an idea what a dimwit is
What do you want me to explain the "grow a pair" post or the "stealth" one

[RobG]

Personally, I think its good that Admins aren't visible, as I've seen before that those wishing to cause trouble waiting until no Admins are online

 
Bit of a contradiction there TB. If you`re saying that troublemakers will "strike" when no admin are showing as online, stay out of stealth mode and by your line of thinking troublemakers won`t strike, seemples

[STMO123]

Personally, I think its good that Admins aren't visible, as I've seen before that those wishing to cause trouble waiting until no Admins are online

 
Bit of a contradiction there TB. If you`re saying that troublemakers will "strike" when no admin are showing as online, stay out of stealth mode and by your line of thinking troublemakers won`t strike, seemples

You're a rather troublemaker. Always have been.

[Jimbob]

I see this is still causing unrest, for some reason...

As I see it, this is what happened, and how I dealt with it, and the after repercussions.

A lot of this is from (distant) memory, so please forgive recollection omissions etc.

Loo-knee responded to a thread with terribly sorry old boy, I am a little tired, It was unclear as to who this was aimed, I thought the OP (tidla) initially as it was another 'whats up with OOF' thread.  I found this highly disrespectful and not the behavior I would expect from a mod. It later transpired it was only aimed purely at Ljay.

Ljay attempted to resolve the issue privately, but was met by similar one word answers to PM's.
She also used the alert mod function, as is anyones right when they are not happy.
Several hours later, I acted on the alert, as noone else had, and issued a 24 hour ban to loo-knee with the ban message explaining which rule I was banning for.

imho he had used his comments purely to stir things up, and to provoke a reaction.  It would appear he really didnt like the reaction he got.

The fact Ljay is my wife is irrelevant, I would have acted the same whoever had used the alert mod.

As to the punishment of a 24 hour ban....Many of us have been banned for far longer, and imho for far less, or instance I was banned for several days for merely mentioning I had downloaded a game, and I know many other bans have been issued for things like air freshener mentions etc.  For these reasons I  think he massively over reacted.

If he hadnt, by his own admission, been deliberately provocative, none of this would have happened.  He believes however he has done nothing wrong.

As for me being scott free.....I was banned for over a week, Ljay has been banned permanently for doing nothing wrong.  Personally I don't feel that is scott free.  I know some feel she had done similar things in the past, that is totally irrelevant, the alert mod has been there for use, and it had been used against her in the past for which she had received warnings.  So totally irrelevant to this.  Quite what punishment you see fit I am not sure, as this place is hard work and takes hours of our time.  To sort each few new maintenance guides takes over an hour for example.  Its far easier to not be here than to help of the running of it.

As far as I am concerned, there is nothing more to be said.  It is done, History.
Whenever OOF is debated, there is always a current 'gripe of the moment'  I believe this is the current one, previous examples being too much politics, too much soft porn, too many jokes etc etc etc.

[RobG]

And also not worth the effort if members think its wrong that admins can use stealth.

Unless admin can unequivocally state valid reasons for the use of "stealth" mode, don`t use it.

[STMO123]

You could all just get a life. Problem solved. Next one.

[RobG]

Personally, I think its good that Admins aren't visible, as I've seen before that those wishing to cause trouble waiting until no Admins are online

 
Bit of a contradiction there TB. If you`re saying that troublemakers will "strike" when no admin are showing as online, stay out of stealth mode and by your line of thinking troublemakers won`t strike, seemples

You're a rather troublemaker. Always have been.

I`ve been in "stealth" mode reading & learning from your posts Steve

[hotel21]

You are wrong.

Why don`t the admin team grow a pair and put it into type exactly why it`s "wrong" then or does this "phantom clique" exist within the confines of their ivory tower aka "chat room"
I would imagine there are quite a few members awaiting the admin take on all this, or is it going to be a case of "sometime never"

RobG - seems you've definately got a bee in your bonnet about something. Which is good, and precisely what this thread is about .

However, not quite sure I understand what your are getting at  . Can you ask the question/query again, in a way a dimwit like me would understand

Don`t do "dimwit" so I`ll search the forum and get an idea what a dimwit is
What do you want me to explain the "grow a pair" post or the "stealth" one

Rob.  I really do not mean this to be antagonistic or in any way condascending so please do not read it as such.

But.

If you have a hair up your arse regarding what you percieve as a problem on here then please, by all means, use simple words and phrases rather than speaking in off-hand riddles and conjectures.   It will save several pages of faff and the need to subsequently seperate wheat from chaff.   

[Darth Loo-knee]

I see this is still causing unrest, for some reason...

As I see it, this is what happened, and how I dealt with it, and the after repercussions.

A lot of this is from (distant) memory, so please forgive recollection omissions etc.

Loo-knee responded to a thread with terribly sorry old boy, I am a little tired, It was unclear as to who this was aimed, I thought the OP (tidla) initially as it was another 'whats up with OOF' thread.  I found this highly disrespectful and not the behavior I would expect from a mod. It later transpired it was only aimed purely at Ljay.

Like banning me?

Ljay attempted to resolve the issue privately, but was met by similar one word answers to PM's.


I replied to one PM that LJay sent to me. The reply was one word "Bo.ring" (without the full stop)

She also used the alert mod function, as is anyones right when they are not happy.
Several hours later, I acted on the alert, as noone else had, and issued a 24 hour ban to loo-knee with the ban message explaining which rule I was banning for.

I don't remember that

imho he had used his comments purely to stir things up, and to provoke a reaction.  It would appear he really didnt like the reaction he got.

I had and still have no problem with Ljay, her Pm's etc

The fact Ljay is my wife is irrelevant, I would have acted the same whoever had used the alert mod.

As to the punishment of a 24 hour ban....Many of us have been banned for far longer, and imho for far less, or instance I was banned for several days for merely mentioning I had downloaded a game, and I know many other bans have been issued for things like air freshener mentions etc.  For these reasons I  think he massively over reacted.

If he hadnt, by his own admission, been deliberately provocative, none of this would have happened.  He believes however he has done nothing wrong.

So you actually think I did wrong by saying two separate words? Which Ljay has said numerous times which can be proved.. and yet you did not Ban Ljay. Why is that then?

As for me being scott free.....I was banned for over a week, Ljay has been banned permanently for doing nothing wrong. 
The only thing I agree with you about. If Ljay has been Banned for saying things in the passed, I still find that unfair now to be having a punishment thaty should have been dealt 2 years ago.

Personally I don't feel that is scott free.  I know some feel she had done similar things in the past, that is totally irrelevant, the alert mod has been there for use, and it had been used against her in the past for which she had received warnings.  So totally irrelevant to this.  Quite what punishment you see fit I am not sure, as this place is hard work and takes hours of our time.  To sort each few new maintenance guides takes over an hour for example.  Its far easier to not be here than to help of the running of it.

Is this your excuse?


As far as I am concerned, there is nothing more to be said.  It is done, History.
Whenever OOF is debated, there is always a current 'gripe of the moment'  I believe this is the current one, previous examples being too much politics, too much soft porn, too many jokes etc etc etc.

What puzzles me is the fact you still actually think you did this fairly