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Auto Box ECU upgrade
« on: 07 February 2007, 19:56:26 »
Having seen this mentioned on a few occasions, can it be done to my 96 (PReg) TD Estate?
If how & who, or is it not relevant to what you guys refer to as 'Tractors'?
What are the benefits from such an uprade?
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Re: Auto Box ECU upgrade
« Reply #1 on: 07 February 2007, 19:59:51 »
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Having seen this mentioned on a few occasions, can it be done to my 96 (PReg) TD Estate?
If how & who, or is it not relevant to what you guys refer to as 'Tractors'?
What are the benefits from such an uprade?
The benefits in the software upgrade in the ECU are a much smoother change, and apparently less 'slip' in the box.  Huge difference.

Your local dealer scumbag or me are the peeps to talk to...

Irrelevent as far as you are concerned, as pre 98 cars do not have updatable firmware on g/box...
« Last Edit: 07 February 2007, 20:00:44 by TheBoy »
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Re: Auto Box ECU upgrade
« Reply #2 on: 08 February 2007, 22:27:40 »
Is there a way of checking what version you have without tech2? Something like sticking a finger in the cigar lighter while holding sports button with your nose and operating the bonnet alarm switch with your foot?

I'm sure I've seen something about how to tell... or maybe I was dreaming  :o
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Re: Auto Box ECU upgrade
« Reply #3 on: 08 February 2007, 23:25:18 »
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...Something like sticking a finger in the cigar lighter while holding sports button with your nose and operating the bonnet alarm switch with your foot?...

Yep - that's the one!  ;D
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Re: Auto Box ECU upgrade
« Reply #4 on: 09 February 2007, 07:40:51 »
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Is there a way of checking what version you have without tech2? Something like sticking a finger in the cigar lighter while holding sports button with your nose and operating the bonnet alarm switch with your foot?

I'm sure I've seen something about how to tell... or maybe I was dreaming  :o
Unless yours has been updated at some point (unlikely), you ain't got the smoother one.

Only way to get specific version is real Tech2 or cheapo one if its in a good mood at the time...
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Re: Auto Box ECU upgrade
« Reply #5 on: 09 February 2007, 07:58:49 »
As the boxes are apparently mechanically the same, is it possible to get just a later ECU and flash it with the revised software?
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Re: Auto Box ECU upgrade
« Reply #6 on: 09 February 2007, 08:14:21 »
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As the boxes are apparently mechanically the same, is it possible to get just a later ECU and flash it with the revised software?
dunno, probably...
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Re: Auto Box ECU upgrade
« Reply #7 on: 09 February 2007, 08:17:24 »
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As the boxes are apparently mechanically the same, is it possible to get just a later ECU and flash it with the revised software?
dunno, probably...

Righto,

When I get the new car sorted, I'll hunt about for a later ECU, and we'll Tech2 it and find out? ;D
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Re: Auto Box ECU upgrade
« Reply #8 on: 09 February 2007, 13:49:20 »
Mines a 2.2 ,2001 reg. does anyone know if this is likely to have the latest software upgrade for the gearbox?
cheers Pete
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Re: Auto Box ECU upgrade
« Reply #9 on: 09 February 2007, 13:54:22 »
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Mines a 2.2 ,2001 reg. does anyone know if this is likely to have the latest software upgrade for the gearbox?
cheers Pete
Its likely it doesn't have the latest...
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Re: Auto Box ECU upgrade
« Reply #10 on: 09 February 2007, 15:05:21 »
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Mines a 2.2 ,2001 reg. does anyone know if this is likely to have the latest software upgrade for the gearbox?
cheers Pete
Its likely it doesn't have the latest...

My dads 2001 2.2 CD had autobox software V1.0... and V10.0 is the latest!  :o
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Re: Auto Box ECU upgrade
« Reply #11 on: 09 February 2007, 15:09:29 »
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Mines a 2.2 ,2001 reg. does anyone know if this is likely to have the latest software upgrade for the gearbox?
cheers Pete
Its likely it doesn't have the latest...

My dads 2001 2.2 CD had autobox software V1.0... and V10.0 is the latest!  :o
I think it was V9 I put on. May have been V10, can't remember what ECU it was GX820 or GX821...
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Re: Auto Box ECU upgrade
« Reply #12 on: 09 February 2007, 15:11:30 »
And as I did it for nought, I expect a full report on it to be posted in the forum ;)
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Re: Auto Box ECU upgrade
« Reply #13 on: 09 February 2007, 19:01:52 »
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Having seen this mentioned on a few occasions, can it be done to my 96 (PReg) TD Estate?
If how & who, or is it not relevant to what you guys refer to as 'Tractors'?
What are the benefits from such an uprade?
The benefits in the software upgrade in the ECU are a much smoother change, and apparently less 'slip' in the box.  Huge difference.

Your local dealer scumbag or me are the peeps to talk to...

Irrelevent as far as you are concerned, as pre 98 cars do not have updatable firmware on g/box...

How does it make it change smoother?

I assume it tells the engine ecu to retard the ignition at the point of change....to make it smoother....and something the earlier versions didnt do?  :-/ Or this only possible on facelifts/coil pack ignition setup?

Drove my merc today.....now that is a smooth gearbox.....far smoother than my omega....drive it normally and you carnt even feel the gear changes....you only know its changed gear by watching the rev counter! ....Something merc is good at! autoboxes! Crap at manuals tho!
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Re: Auto Box ECU upgrade
« Reply #14 on: 09 February 2007, 19:36:50 »
I checked mine I've got version 5 - so mines way behind !!!!    :-/

It's 1999 so could be upgraded ?
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Re: Auto Box ECU upgrade
« Reply #15 on: 10 February 2007, 21:55:00 »
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Having seen this mentioned on a few occasions, can it be done to my 96 (PReg) TD Estate?
If how & who, or is it not relevant to what you guys refer to as 'Tractors'?
What are the benefits from such an uprade?
The benefits in the software upgrade in the ECU are a much smoother change, and apparently less 'slip' in the box.  Huge difference.

Your local dealer scumbag or me are the peeps to talk to...

Irrelevent as far as you are concerned, as pre 98 cars do not have updatable firmware on g/box...

How does it make it change smoother?

I assume it tells the engine ecu to retard the ignition at the point of change....to make it smoother....and something the earlier versions didnt do?  :-/ Or this only possible on facelifts/coil pack ignition setup?

Drove my merc today.....now that is a smooth gearbox.....far smoother than my omega....drive it normally and you carnt even feel the gear changes....you only know its changed gear by watching the rev counter! ....Something merc is good at! autoboxes! Crap at manuals tho!
Apparently it can adjust oil pressure etc in the valves using a PWM technique, rather than on or off...
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Re: Auto Box ECU upgrade
« Reply #16 on: 10 February 2007, 21:55:33 »
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I checked mine I've got version 5 - so mines way behind !!!!    :-/

It's 1999 so could be upgraded ?
Yes.
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Re: Auto Box ECU upgrade
« Reply #17 on: 21 February 2007, 12:07:00 »
Pre '98 irrelevant - what about actual 98/S?
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Re: Auto Box ECU upgrade
« Reply #18 on: 21 February 2007, 12:08:51 »
Mine's a 98 S, and is flashable

Booked in to be flashed on Monday morning :)

£36 from dealer


Dont expect your dealer to be £36 though, if not using TheBoy, then ring around, quoted upto £82 +vat!
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Re: Auto Box ECU upgrade
« Reply #19 on: 21 February 2007, 12:12:08 »
Message for TB: If theres time I could pop over to the V6 party on Sat and give you some spondoolies to do mine - what do you reckon + how much?  :)
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Re: Auto Box ECU upgrade
« Reply #20 on: 21 February 2007, 12:17:21 »
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Message for TB: If theres time I could pop over to the V6 party on Sat and give you some spondoolies to do mine - what do you reckon + how much?  :)
Should be flashable, as no doubt mini facelift.  Price list at top of each section - 'TheBoy's Tech2 Price List'
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« Reply #21 on: 21 February 2007, 12:43:56 »
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Message for TB: If theres time I could pop over to the V6 party on Sat and give you some spondoolies to do mine - what do you reckon + how much?  :)
Should be flashable, as no doubt mini facelift.  Price list at top of each section - 'TheBoy's Tech2 Price List'

Cool, you think you'll have time to fit me in then? - how many posts do I have to do between now and then to make junior member  ;)
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Re: Auto Box ECU upgrade
« Reply #22 on: 21 February 2007, 13:04:35 »
To get to a junior member, you need 50+ posts (I think).
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Re: Auto Box ECU upgrade
« Reply #23 on: 21 February 2007, 14:30:40 »
Yes it's 50+ to loose the newbie - get saying hello to all the other newbies to qualify for the discount!
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Re: Auto Box ECU upgrade
« Reply #24 on: 21 February 2007, 16:56:55 »
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Yes it's 50+ to loose the newbie - get saying hello to all the other newbies to qualify for the discount!
Anyone welcoming new users who joined more than a few days ago will feel my wrath - we dont want the daft thing that happening before with people welcoming 'new' users who joined months ago  >:(
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« Reply #25 on: 21 February 2007, 16:58:57 »
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Yes it's 50+ to loose the newbie - get saying hello to all the other newbies to qualify for the discount!
Anyone welcoming new users who joined more than a few days ago will feel my wrath - we dont want the daft thing that happening before with people welcoming 'new' users who joined months ago  >:(

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« Reply #26 on: 21 February 2007, 18:28:23 »
Unless you didn't bump it and thought it was a new member :y
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« Reply #27 on: 21 February 2007, 18:43:18 »
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Unless you didn't bump it and thought it was a new member :y
Coz it was too hard to look back 2 or 3 posts and see it was a month old  :-?
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Re: Auto Box ECU upgrade
« Reply #28 on: 21 February 2007, 23:18:49 »
I don't see the big deal with wanting huge post counts anyhow....
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