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Parrot CK3100 with F/L Bose NCDC2013
« on: 26 November 2013, 15:29:25 »

I have searched and am unable to find answer so sure somebody who has done this installation can help. ;)

Autolead 06-102RB fitted to existing vauxhall handes free plug and parrot illuminates but unable to mute radio.Instruction say to mount relay PC6-100.(which didn,t come with the lead but is available )into red transformer housing on r/h side when glove box removed.Unable to find this ...anybody has a picture or location of this please as unable to mute radio without 
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Re: Parrot CK3100 with F/L Bose NCDC2013
« Reply #1 on: 26 November 2013, 17:37:06 »

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Re: Parrot CK3100 with F/L Bose NCDC2013
« Reply #2 on: 26 November 2013, 17:55:02 »

Does the car have Trafficmaster fitted?
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Re: Parrot CK3100 with F/L Bose NCDC2013
« Reply #3 on: 26 November 2013, 18:05:25 »

Hi Chris .

This damn car is really fighting me this week >:(

Spent most of the morning trying to get Parrot fitted as thought just remove from 1 car MFL Elite 2.5 and fit into another F/L Elite 3.2 would be quite straight forward...oh no....bought connection lead Autolead 06-102RB which joined up nicely to existing socket ,but cant get radio to mute down.

Unsure if have Traffic Master as no seperate button on dash by headlight as older MFL had
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Re: Parrot CK3100 with F/L Bose NCDC2013
« Reply #4 on: 26 November 2013, 18:12:25 »

Cheers for link RobG  :y

 but not sure if it applies to the later F/L models as assume my existing unit fitted to a MFL.(not by me  :o)  had been wired in some how to the Traffic Master wiring but cant see any mention of TMC on the newere model
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Re: Parrot CK3100 with F/L Bose NCDC2013
« Reply #5 on: 26 November 2013, 19:14:19 »

I have searched and am unable to find answer so sure somebody who has done this installation can help. ;)

Autolead 06-102RB fitted to existing vauxhall handes free plug and parrot illuminates but unable to mute radio.Instruction say to mount relay PC6-100.(which didn,t come with the lead but is available )into red transformer housing on r/h side when glove box removed.Unable to find this ...anybody has a picture or location of this please as unable to mute radio without
Not required on your HU
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Re: Parrot CK3100 with F/L Bose NCDC2013
« Reply #6 on: 26 November 2013, 19:49:45 »

Cheers RobG  :y

Well  atleast that is one less thing I need to source..just need to find out why the radio doesn,t mute and think it will be sorted  ::)
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Re: Parrot CK3100 with F/L Bose NCDC2013
« Reply #7 on: 26 November 2013, 20:15:43 »

I have searched and am unable to find answer so sure somebody who has done this installation can help. ;)

Autolead 06-102RB fitted to existing vauxhall handes free plug and parrot illuminates but unable to mute radio.Instruction say to mount relay PC6-100.(which didn,t come with the lead but is available )into red transformer housing on r/h side when glove box removed.Unable to find this ...anybody has a picture or location of this please as unable to mute radio without
Think you need this one for yours Andy
http://www.carcommunications.co.uk/car-accessories/autoleads-sot-109-vauxhall-omega-signum-vectra-zafira-parrot-sot-lead
Click on "compatibility" tab. The lead you are using is for earlier models ;)
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Re: Parrot CK3100 with F/L Bose NCDC2013
« Reply #8 on: 26 November 2013, 20:35:53 »

Just checked Rob the link you kindly provided and its ..Omega Apr - 1994 > All with VDA / Pre 2001 will require 06-102RB

I have the Autolead 06-102RB ..it is listed with a relay but mine didn,t come with it but seems not required so I do seem to have the correct part...damn radio will not mute down though. >:(

Will have another look at it in the morning ( if I cann muster up enough energy )  ;D as everything seems so much better after a bottle of Red with evening meal ;D
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Re: Parrot CK3100 with F/L Bose NCDC2013
« Reply #9 on: 26 November 2013, 20:41:21 »

Just checked Rob the link you kindly provided and its ..Omega Apr - 1994 > All with VDA / Pre 2001 will require 06-102RB

I have the Autolead 06-102RB ..it is listed with a relay but mine didn,t come with it but seems not required so I do seem to have the correct part...damn radio will not mute down though. >:(

Will have another look at it in the morning ( if I cann muster up enough energy )  ;D as everything seems so much better after a bottle of Red with evening meal ;D
Beg to differ mate. As yours is an `03 model you need the SOT-109
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Re: Parrot CK3100 with F/L Bose NCDC2013
« Reply #10 on: 26 November 2013, 20:51:54 »

Well that does look more promising as I can now see that it connects to the phone socket and the HU which seems to be where the issues are. :-[

I was advised by auto-leccy to get the 02-106 but what did he know . >:(

Cheers Rob  :y ..will see what availability is then
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Re: Parrot CK3100 with F/L Bose NCDC2013
« Reply #11 on: 26 November 2013, 20:54:15 »

Well that does look more promising as I can now see that it connects to the phone socket and the HU which seems to be where the issues are. :-[

I was advised by auto-leccy to get the 02-106 but what did he know . >:(

Cheers Rob  :y ..will see what availability is then
Naff all by the sounds of it ::) ;D
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Re: Parrot CK3100 with F/L Bose NCDC2013
« Reply #13 on: 26 November 2013, 21:05:09 »

Cheers Buddy  :y

I am no electrician so put my faith/trust in the guys who say they know. ???..well I suppose I can send it back for refund and buy the correct part. >:(

Should have asked earlier ..many thanks again Rob.."Top Guy"
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Re: Parrot CK3100 with F/L Bose NCDC2013
« Reply #14 on: 26 November 2013, 23:17:00 »

When I fitted a car kit to my last elite the traffic master loom wasn't wired to pass mute signals from the car kit to the head unit. So TM would mute radio but an incoming/outgoing call wouldn't. I ended up modding the loom to retain TM but as it's now been switched off if doing it again I'd just ditch the TM loom and associated gubbins. If al else fails it may be worth pulling the HU out to see if there's a TM loom plugged in the back of it.
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Re: Parrot CK3100 with F/L Bose NCDC2013
« Reply #15 on: 27 November 2013, 01:08:05 »

Last time I messed with the mute on a NCDC was a bucket of worms, and a few years back now,  there;s a pin on the back of the HU that needs to be High (+12v) (or was it low 0v?), when I modded  a TM loom it didn't work and had to go directly to the mute pin on the HU, if that helps.

Pin out for mute should be on the HU label from memory.

Ps, did the modded Navi lead work?

Chris.  ;)
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Re: Parrot CK3100 with F/L Bose NCDC2013
« Reply #16 on: 27 November 2013, 08:16:56 »

Hi Chris.

Have decided its safer just to get the right wiring kit..as linked by RobG..SOT 109 and go from there, as at present wires are everywhere after the last "idiot" I employed  >:( tried wiring it up with the wromg loom. >:(

Yes Sat Nav mod works fine  :y and is neatly mounted on the metal of the parcel shelf.All cables are secured and connections covered in foam wrap so thats a job jobbed..thanks  :y

Just need washers bits as discussed and we are back on track for the "big launch " next week ;D ;D ;D 
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Re: Parrot CK3100 with F/L Bose NCDC2013
« Reply #17 on: 27 November 2013, 10:03:05 »

Now that you've got it sussed, do you fancy fitting my Parrot MKi9200?   ::) ;D ;D ;D
 
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Re: Parrot CK3100 with F/L Bose NCDC2013
« Reply #18 on: 27 November 2013, 11:02:53 »

So sorry Mr BlackViper90210 but I am going to pass on your kind offer as I am surrounded by bits of car wiring at the moment and think I am well overdue a "nervous breakdown" ;D
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Re: Parrot CK3100 with F/L Bose NCDC2013
« Reply #19 on: 27 November 2013, 11:24:54 »

So sorry Mr BlackViper90210 but I am going to pass on your kind offer as I am surrounded by bits of car wiring at the moment and think I am well overdue a "nervous breakdown" ;D

Well save me a space in the Breakdown unit!

Need to remove the kit from my Veccy bofore I fit it....then sell the Veccy which hopefully will stop SWMBO moaning at me for maybe 5 secs :o
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Re: Parrot CK3100 with F/L Bose NCDC2013
« Reply #20 on: 27 November 2013, 12:38:40 »

Would have thought,be a straight swap from a Vectra to an omega.
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Re: Parrot CK3100 with F/L Bose NCDC2013
« Reply #21 on: 27 November 2013, 12:50:45 »

Hope so. I fitted it to the Veccy and it worked so there is hope for me yet ::)

Getting round to doing it now though. Get home from work and its pitchblack, weekends arrive and I've got 2 brats lovely children of mine wanting every second of my time :-X

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Re: Parrot CK3100 with F/L Bose NCDC2013
« Reply #22 on: 27 November 2013, 13:35:31 »

Well I am pleased to report "The Parrot Flys Again". ;D

Managed to get it sorted after an hour or so of head scratching  >:( as couldnt see why the radio wouldn,t mut down when the thin black mute wires was earthed.After testing and retesting have come to the conclusion that for some reason or another the NCDC2013 I have fitted has has got a fault with the mute and just will not shut down.Fortunatley I have a second NCDC 2013.( as 1 does for emergencies  :D) which afterreplacing works fine and mutes down as it should so all is well with the Parrot and it is working fine.

Just now need to fit the paired screen from the replacement NCDC to get functions all working and thats a jobbed job :y

Still need to sort headlight washer/fit rear shelf/all interior trims/glovebox etc etc and its done ...the End is in sight now :) 
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Re: Parrot CK3100 with F/L Bose NCDC2013
« Reply #23 on: 27 November 2013, 13:41:31 »

Well I am pleased to report "The Parrot Flys Again". ;D

Managed to get it sorted after an hour or so of head scratching  >:( as couldnt see why the radio wouldn,t mut down when the thin black mute wires was earthed.After testing and retesting have come to the conclusion that for some reason or another the NCDC2013 I have fitted has has got a fault with the mute and just will not shut down.Fortunatley I have a second NCDC 2013.( as 1 does for emergencies  :D) which afterreplacing works fine and mutes down as it should so all is well with the Parrot and it is working fine.

Just now need to fit the paired screen from the replacement NCDC to get functions all working and thats a jobbed job :y

Still need to sort headlight washer/fit rear shelf/all interior trims/glovebox etc etc and its done ...the End is in sight now :)

Happy days!  Its typical that the equipment was faulty after all your hard work!!  Nice one mate :y
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Re: Parrot CK3100 with F/L Bose NCDC2013
« Reply #24 on: 27 November 2013, 20:48:07 »

Anyone else doing this, do it on a TM loom, and ignore all the Autoleads shite, their compatibility charts are useless (ie, wrong), and the quality of the stuff is suspect.
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Re: Parrot CK3100 with F/L Bose NCDC2013
« Reply #25 on: 27 November 2013, 21:37:50 »

Anyone else doing this, do it on a TM loom, and ignore all the Autoleads shite, their compatibility charts are useless (ie, wrong), and the quality of the stuff is suspect.

Do I have the TM loom in mine as I don't have the TM button? ???
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Re: Parrot CK3100 with F/L Bose NCDC2013
« Reply #26 on: 27 November 2013, 22:07:54 »

Anyone else doing this, do it on a TM loom, and ignore all the Autoleads shite, their compatibility charts are useless (ie, wrong), and the quality of the stuff is suspect.

Do I have the TM loom in mine as I don't have the TM button? ???
No, but every breaker will have a bucketload, and a damn site cheaper and better quality than Autoleads shite
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Re: Parrot CK3100 with F/L Bose NCDC2013
« Reply #27 on: 27 November 2013, 22:47:44 »

Anyone else doing this, do it on a TM loom, and ignore all the Autoleads shite, their compatibility charts are useless (ie, wrong), and the quality of the stuff is suspect.

Do I have the TM loom in mine as I don't have the TM button? ???
No, but every breaker will have a bucketload, and a damn site cheaper and better quality than Autoleads shite

Cheers TB, but I have to ask as I don't know the answer :-[

I get the TM loom, what do I do with it (waits for sarcastic comments)  ::) ;D ;D
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« Reply #28 on: 27 November 2013, 23:23:04 »

I believe it is a straight forward plug exercise as far as the HU goes, selecting the appropriate connections on the other end to connect the phone kit to :-\

Perhaps a guide somewhere :-\
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Re: Parrot CK3100 with F/L Bose NCDC2013
« Reply #29 on: 28 November 2013, 19:44:53 »

Anyone else doing this, do it on a TM loom, and ignore all the Autoleads shite, their compatibility charts are useless (ie, wrong), and the quality of the stuff is suspect.

Do I have the TM loom in mine as I don't have the TM button? ???
No, but every breaker will have a bucketload, and a damn site cheaper and better quality than Autoleads shite

Cheers TB, but I have to ask as I don't know the answer :-[

I get the TM loom, what do I do with it (waits for sarcastic comments)  ::) ;D ;D
Send the audio down 2 wires, mute down another, pick up a 12v, ign12v and 0v to power the Parrott, and if its compatible, pick up the conference Mic wires to save fitting Parrott mic. Simples.
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Re: Parrot CK3100 with F/L Bose NCDC2013
« Reply #30 on: 28 November 2013, 20:23:37 »

Anyone else doing this, do it on a TM loom, and ignore all the Autoleads shite, their compatibility charts are useless (ie, wrong), and the quality of the stuff is suspect.

Do I have the TM loom in mine as I don't have the TM button? ???
No, but every breaker will have a bucketload, and a damn site cheaper and better quality than Autoleads shite

Cheers TB, but I have to ask as I don't know the answer :-[

I get the TM loom, what do I do with it (waits for sarcastic comments)  ::) ;D ;D
Send the audio down 2 wires, mute down another, pick up a 12v, ign12v and 0v to power the Parrott, and if its compatible, pick up the conference Mic wires to save fitting Parrott mic. Simples.

Always simples when you know how :y

Thanks for the advice though. Will be having a go at fitting this weekend after taking Tall Paul on a road trip  ::) ;D ;D
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