Topic: Programming a replacement fob (Read 2286 times)

bestseany · « **on:** 11 January 2007, 12:36:28 »

I have a 97 Omega Elite, but when I bought it from the auction it only came with one key and one fob. The fob I have is intermittant and the buttons are very worn.

I've bought this fob from ebay, which matches my current one in every way.....

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=170054641256

Do I need to get it programmed by Vauxhall? Someone told me I'd need a security passport thing for the car though, which I obviously don' t have :-/

Ghosts in my machine · « **Reply #1 on:** 11 January 2007, 12:54:36 »

As an interim, I have always taken Vauxhall fobs apart when they start getting dodgy and place a small bit of card above the offending button (usually the lock one) below the rubber outer. It seems to keep the pressure on the button and keep them going for a bit longer. I need to get a new fob too, as both of mine are now going bad.

bestseany · « **Reply #2 on:** 11 January 2007, 13:00:37 »

The old one works enough to use it, but the lock button won't hold down long enough to close the windows etc.

bigall · « **Reply #3 on:** 11 January 2007, 13:08:40 »

Look in yellow pages etc for a auto elec or a locksmith who will do fob replacement. I had one done for mine . 3 button fob and programmed to car for £45 all in. They needed my car pass as well

Jimbob · « **Reply #4 on:** 11 January 2007, 13:10:50 »

2 Cheap places with tech2 (probably quite local to you) are roadrunners or MW performance, both in Saltney,
Roadrunners £25, but seem to know what they are doing a bit more.
MW £15, but to be fair when they couldnt do what I wanted, charged nothing.....I now know it was user error having seen it done.

Some of these things do NEED the car pass though, you can get replacements from vauxhall once you prove you own the car.

bestseany · « **Reply #5 on:** 11 January 2007, 13:14:35 »

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2 Cheap places with tech2 (probably quite local to you) are roadrunners or MW performance, both in Saltney,
Roadrunners £25, but seem to know what they are doing a bit more.
MW £15, but to be fair when they couldnt do what I wanted, charged nothing.....I now know it was user error having seen it done.

Some of these things do NEED the car pass though, you can get replacements from vauxhall once you prove you own the car.

There's something about MW Performance that I don't like. I never knew Road Runners had a tech2 though, might give them a try on the weekend.

I think getting a replacement security passport is the expensive part :-/

TheBoy · « **Reply #6 on:** 11 January 2007, 13:18:58 »

Any new transponder and new remote needs to be programmed to the car. This requires the immobiliser PIN from the carpass (available from dealer for around £12 - £30 +VAT, ring around various dealers, price does vary. You have to prove its your car (logbook etc)).

I charge £5 to do one complete key (transponder and remote) as part of xmas special prices, but you are too far away. Sorry.

Jimbob · « **Reply #7 on:** 11 January 2007, 13:19:25 »

Our old cav came out of MW worse than it went in!
but thought they cant do much harm with a computer!

Roadrunners programmed a new ABS ECU to the car no problem. £25

They may have different prices for other things, or flat rate, dont know.

bestseany · « **Reply #8 on:** 11 January 2007, 13:23:49 »

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Any new transponder and new remote needs to be programmed to the car. This requires the immobiliser PIN from the carpass (available from dealer for around £12 - £30 +VAT, ring around various dealers, price does vary. You have to prove its your car (logbook etc)).

I charge £5 to do one complete key (transponder and remote) as part of xmas special prices, but you are too far away. Sorry.

Damn. Guess I'll have to speak to Vauxhall for a replacement carpass then. Gutted

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Our old cav came out of MW worse than it went in!
but thought they cant do much harm with a computer!

Roadrunners programmed a new ABS ECU to the car no problem. £25

They may have different prices for other things, or flat rate, dont know.

I went there once with my Cavalier to get the fuel tank replaced. Cost £160.

bestseany · « **Reply #9 on:** 15 January 2007, 12:26:34 »

Whilst I was picking up some new rocker cover gaskets on the weekend at my local dealer, I asked about my remote fob.

Apparently, I can't program up my new fob through tech2. Only the transponder key can be programmed.

When I asked how to program it up, I was advised to put the ignition on and hold down the lock button on the new fob, which should program. When I told them that this was only to re-sync fobs that are already programmed, I was told that I'm wrong!

I then tried this process with the guy watching, which obviously didn't work, and was advised that my new fob must be faulty.

Not sure what to do now :-/

Jimbob · « **Reply #10 on:** 15 January 2007, 12:54:04 »

Unlucky!
was that Deeside?

The Boy will know more on the techy side.

If he reckons they are wrong, then Maybe try Sealand, or failing that Roadrunners
Did you get your carpass then?

bestseany · « **Reply #11 on:** 15 January 2007, 12:56:50 »

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Unlucky!
was that Deeside?

The Boy will know more on the techy side.

If he reckons they are wrong, then Maybe try Sealand, or failing that Roadrunners
Did you get your carpass then?

Yep, that was Deeside mate. I was a bit disappointed when they told me that.

I didn't bother getting a carpass after they told me that, although they said it's only £13 to get one if I need it.

TheBoy · « **Reply #12 on:** 15 January 2007, 12:59:00 »

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Apparently, I can't program up my new fob through tech2. Only the transponder key can be programmed.

What a load of 'dangle berries'!

Tell them, plug in Tech2, select year, then car. Go to Body Systems, then Anti Theft System, then Programming, then Program remote keys and follow prompts. Pretty much same as doing transponder actually.

£13 for carpass is good

Jimbob · « **Reply #13 on:** 15 January 2007, 12:59:53 »

Bloody hell thats cheap, Thought you needed one to even try and do the remote.

Going up there for some bits this week
gonna try and blag a gearbox software update while im there.

Jimbob · « **Reply #14 on:** 15 January 2007, 13:02:07 »

Sounds like a trip to Sealand then.

Good look with the traffic!

rather nightmare today with the gas main going over grosvenor bridge.
EVERYWHERE gridlocked

Long way round (a55) rather than through town to get home methinks...

bestseany · « **Reply #15 on:** 15 January 2007, 13:04:00 »

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What a load of 'dangle berries'!

Tell them, plug in Tech2, select year, then car. Go to Body Systems, then Anti Theft System, then Programming, then Program remote keys and follow prompts. Pretty much same as doing transponder actually.

£13 for carpass is good

I did think that was cheap actually. Might just get one and go elsewhere to get it programmed. I did think he chatting cod but he wouldn't have it when I tried to correct him.

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Bloody hell thats cheap, Thought you needed one to even try and do the remote.

Going up there for some bits this week
gonna try and blag a gearbox software update while im there.

What's up with your gearbox mate? Ask about programming the keyfob while your there, they might give a different answer if someone who knows what they're doing is on

bestseany · « **Reply #16 on:** 15 January 2007, 13:05:13 »

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Sounds like a trip to Sealand then.

Good look with the traffic!

rather nightmare today with the gas main going over grosvenor bridge.
EVERYWHERE gridlocked

Long way round (a55) rather than through town to get home methinks...

I know what you mean mate. I work on Chester Business Park and I was 20 minutes late for work this morning because of the gas works

TheBoy · « **Reply #17 on:** 15 January 2007, 13:06:00 »

Tech2 for 97 on cars, Tech1 for up to 97 cars. However, Tech2 will do RF remotes on 95/96 Omegas as well (but not IR remotes on 95 cars)

Jimbob · « **Reply #18 on:** 15 January 2007, 13:07:54 »

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What a load of 'dangle berries'!

Tell them, plug in Tech2, select year, then car. Go to Body Systems, then Anti Theft System, then Programming, then Program remote keys and follow prompts. Pretty much same as doing transponder actually.

£13 for carpass is good

I did think that was cheap actually. Might just get one and go elsewhere to get it programmed. I did think he chatting cod but he wouldn't have it when I tried to correct him.

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Bloody hell thats cheap, Thought you needed one to even try and do the remote.

Going up there for some bits this week
gonna try and blag a gearbox software update while im there.

What's up with your gearbox mate? Ask about programming the keyfob while your there, they might give a different answer if someone who knows what they're doing is on

Nothing wrong with it,
IIRC New version is a lot smoother apparently, and feels more powerful
I am running v5, latest i beleive is 0A so I am a lot of versions behind.

I work near the station, start at 6:30 (gym 1st, then work) so missed it all

home for 4 normally.

bestseany · « **Reply #19 on:** 15 January 2007, 13:11:19 »

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Tech2 for 97 on cars, Tech1 for up to 97 cars. However, Tech2 will do RF remotes on 95/96 Omegas as well (but not IR remotes on 95 cars)

Mine's a 97 with an RF remote, so I'm guessing it should be possible with Tech2. I hate when Vauxhall don't know what they're talking about.

TheBoy · « **Reply #20 on:** 15 January 2007, 13:11:32 »

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#I am running v5, latest i beleive is 0A so I am a lot of versions behind.

Varies with exact ECU, but for most v9 is latest.

bestseany · « **Reply #21 on:** 15 January 2007, 13:13:15 »

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Nothing wrong with it,
IIRC New version is a lot smoother apparently, and feels more powerful
I am running v5, latest i beleive is 0A so I am a lot of versions behind.

I work near the station, start at 6:30 (gym 1st, then work) so missed it all
home for 4 normally.

Ah, right, I wonder if a software update would solve my problems with my box clunking and kicking down on it's own when it's warm then. Any idea how much they charge for the update?

I finish work at 5:30, and go straight to the gym next to MW Performance, so I reckon I'm gonna be stuck in traffic for a while.

Jimbob · « **Reply #22 on:** 15 January 2007, 13:13:36 »

Aye, not too sure on their tech2 knowledge

When I rang and asked em about reprogramming my ABS unit, Bloke I spoke to seemed to think I was talking a foreign language, and wanted £80 to do it, although he didnt seem to know what 'it' was!
Maybe the dealer (sealand) will be more au-fait with it.

Jimbob · « **Reply #23 on:** 15 January 2007, 13:15:46 »

Will let you know how I get on with SW update.

FYI
MW or Roadrunners dont seem to have tech2 addons (yet) to do software.

May be worth nipping into MW anyway and see what they can do, £15 for tech2 normally

Jimbob · « **Reply #24 on:** 15 January 2007, 13:16:30 »

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#I am running v5, latest i beleive is 0A so I am a lot of versions behind.
Varies with exact ECU, but for most v9 is latest.

Think the ECU was 180 (if that makes sense)

TheBoy · « **Reply #25 on:** 15 January 2007, 13:17:22 »

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Nothing wrong with it,
IIRC New version is a lot smoother apparently, and feels more powerful
I am running v5, latest i beleive is 0A so I am a lot of versions behind.

I work near the station, start at 6:30 (gym 1st, then work) so missed it all
home for 4 normally.

Ah, right, I wonder if a software update would solve my problems with my box clunking and kicking down on it's own when it's warm then. Any idea how much they charge for the update?

I finish work at 5:30, and go straight to the gym next to MW Performance, so I reckon I'm gonna be stuck in traffic for a while.

I doubt your g/box ecu is flashable. I'd be interested to hear either way...

Jimbob · « **Reply #26 on:** 15 January 2007, 13:18:09 »

Have you done an Oil and filter change on the gearbox?

bestseany · « **Reply #27 on:** 15 January 2007, 13:22:09 »

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Will let you know how I get on with SW update.

FYI
MW or Roadrunners dont seem to have tech2 addons (yet) to do software.

May be worth nipping into MW anyway and see what they can do, £15 for tech2 normally

I'll hold back until I see how you get on with it at Vauxhall.

Do small dealers like Sealand have Tech2 capabilities?

bestseany · « **Reply #28 on:** 15 January 2007, 13:27:48 »

Yep, gearbox fluid and filter were changed in November.

It's fine when it's cold, but after sitting in traffic or when the box starts to get hot, it will occasionally clunk when changing down a gear (like when stopping at junction etc). If I hold the throttle at a certain point, the gears tend to hold on for too long and then it'll drop down a gear on it's own. Unless I move the selector into 3 and then back into D, it'll make a loud bang and bring up a fault on the MID.

It's been doing this since I bought the car, but no-one seems to be able to enlighten me as to the cause. A local 'specialist' said there's no fault codes stored and left it at that.

Jimbob · « **Reply #29 on:** 15 January 2007, 13:29:39 »

Hmmm
Wouldnt have called it small, but presume any Vauxhall dealer has it
Quick phone call should reveal all.

Jimbob · « **Reply #30 on:** 17 January 2007, 08:12:23 »

Right, was up at Deeside yesterday for me car shopping list.

Tried to blag (or even buy) a gearbox software update, but they kind of looked at me like I dropped from space.
Disspeared into the back, and eventually came back with cant do it here, we do Vans and comercial really, you would need to take it to Sealand.
So according to them, there is a specific tech2 and tis, just for vans!
(rubbish)
So sounds like for car work, ie your fob, my gearbox etc, they either dont know, dont want to or cant be ar5s3d.

I asked how much it would be, she said standard diagnostic of £72 + vat!!!!!!
it would be cheaper to drive to The Boy's and have him do it! (just).

Good luck and hope Sealand dont want that sort of money!

bigall · « **Reply #31 on:** 17 January 2007, 09:04:52 »

Seems thats Vxall standard price for Tech2 connection. Charged the same to find out my alarm sounder had failed - took them all of 20 mins.

bestseany · « **Reply #32 on:** 17 January 2007, 13:23:27 »

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Right, was up at Deeside yesterday for me car shopping list.

Tried to blag (or even buy) a gearbox software update, but they kind of looked at me like I dropped from space.
Disspeared into the back, and eventually came back with cant do it here, we do Vans and comercial really, you would need to take it to Sealand.
So according to them, there is a specific tech2 and tis, just for vans!
(rubbish)
So sounds like for car work, ie your fob, my gearbox etc, they either dont know, dont want to or cant be ar5s3d.

I asked how much it would be, she said standard diagnostic of £72 + vat!!!!!!
it would be cheaper to drive to The Boy's and have him do it! (just).

Good luck and hope Sealand dont want that sort of money!

It's nice to know I'm not the only person they seem to be fobbing off. :-?

When you say sealand, do you mean the one with the Renault showroom next door to it, across the road from the Park and Ride?

I might get my carpass from Deeside, as that seemed pretty cheap from there. I need to nip to Halfords on Greyhound Park on Saturday anyway, so might go to Vauxhall whilst I'm there. Worth a try.

Jimbob · « **Reply #33 on:** 17 January 2007, 13:34:54 »

Yep, thats the one, Lookers, Vauxhall on the Left, Renault on the right.
Let us know how you get on.

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