Topic: low beam fld/vision (Read 6468 times)

madmax · « **on:** 18 February 2007, 09:30:01 »

hi can anyone tell me what low beam fld/vision is on the check display and how do i get rid of it..ps had a side light bulb go recently and replaced it but cant seem to get rid of the display check light...

TheBoy · « **Reply #1 on:** 18 February 2007, 09:36:24 »

Presumably you have HIDs (if not, your MID is misconfigured). It means the system is no longer automatically adjusting headlamp height.

Often caused by faulty sensors (one at front, one at rear), or a problem with the levelling servo/feedback system.

madmax · « **Reply #2 on:** 18 February 2007, 09:53:58 »

got xenons and no motor leveling system inside light...where abouts are these sensors thanxs..

TheBoy · « **Reply #3 on:** 18 February 2007, 09:56:25 »

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got xenons and no motor leveling system inside light...where abouts are these sensors thanxs..

yes there is

The sensors are mounted on n/s front wishbone and n/s rear trailing arm.

madmax · « **Reply #4 on:** 18 February 2007, 10:09:59 »

cheers for that info...do you recomend replacing sensors..

Andy B · « **Reply #5 on:** 18 February 2007, 10:14:34 »

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The sensors are mounted on n/s front wishbone and n/s rear trailing arm.

and they're £51 each

I'll keep acknowledging mine for a while

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cheers for that info...do you recomend replacing sensors..

You need Tech II really to read the fault. It's the rear sensor that FUBAR'd on mine and I get the message within a minute or so of switching on the ignition whether the head lights are on or not, if that's of any help.

madmax · « **Reply #6 on:** 18 February 2007, 10:19:46 »

£51 each......aaaaaah a trip to the breakers is needed...expensive month this will be mot due in two weeks new wishbones two new tyres front brake discs and pads and new back box no holes in it but air only coming out of one pipe weird..

madmax · « **Reply #7 on:** 18 February 2007, 10:30:26 »

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The sensors are mounted on n/s front wishbone and n/s rear trailing arm.

and they're £51 each
I'll keep acknowledging mine for a while

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cheers for that info...do you recomend replacing sensors..
You need Tech II really to read the fault. It's the rear sensor that FUBAR'd on mine and I get the message within a minute or so of switching on the ignition whether the head lights are on or not, if that's of any help.
cheeers mate big help shall get in touch with tech II...

Andy B · « **Reply #8 on:** 18 February 2007, 10:31:30 »

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£51 each......aaaaaah a trip to the breakers is needed...expensive month this will be mot due in two weeks new wishbones two new tyres front brake discs and pads and new back box no holes in it but air only coming out of one pipe weird..

Exactly what I thought. After I'd had my car Tech II'd I phoned the dealer and ordered one, and just asked as an aside really how much they were! I cancelled the order! :-?

Marks DTM Calib · « **Reply #9 on:** 18 February 2007, 10:35:30 »

Strangely, I think thats quite cheap.....I suppose thats coz I have seen all the gubbins inside one!

Its well worth cleaning all the pivot points and checking all the connectors and wires also....

Andy B · « **Reply #10 on:** 18 February 2007, 10:45:32 »

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I suppose thats coz I have seen all the gubbins inside one!

Its well worth cleaning all the pivot points and checking all the connectors and wires also....

So have I! It's another £50 I could better spend on something else at the minute though. It's just a pity that Vauxhall/whoever made them couldn't have put a spot of lubricant on the ball/sockets of the pivots. When I removed the link arm from the rear the ball was rusty so consequently it damaged the seal of the cup that should've stopped water from getting in in the first place.
Strangly though the height my head lights aim don't appear to have moved. I'd have expected the aim to have moved if the level system doesn't know where the back of the car is.

MaxV6 · « **Reply #11 on:** 18 February 2007, 18:15:00 »

if the aim hasn't moved it implies that it's not a sensor failure but the HID ECU or adjustment motors.....

if the Sensors fail, the failsafe position is to point the lights down as far as possible.,.. giving a night vision range of about 10 feet! But without blinding opposing traffic.

inoperative HID lamp Adjustment, is, as I understand it, an MOT fail, even if they're nominally pointing the right way at the test centre (or so i was told)

Max

madmax · « **Reply #12 on:** 18 February 2007, 20:54:08 »

thanx for the advice everyone you all seem to no what your talking about...im a bit lost where are these adjustment motors are they in the headlight...only ive just had to glue mine back together on the inside a bit of plastic had snapped on the screw adjustment making the light inside move about...

Pitchfork · « **Reply #13 on:** 18 February 2007, 20:58:32 »

The servos are on the back of the headlamp and connect to the reflector via a ball & socket type arrangement
I have an O/S Xenon Headlamp complete with Servo & the Power pack for 1999 if you are interested
Ian

Andy B · « **Reply #14 on:** 19 February 2007, 01:08:01 »

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if the aim hasn't moved it implies that it's not a sensor failure but the HID ECU or adjustment motors.....

if the Sensors fail, the failsafe position is to point the lights down as far as possible.,.. giving a night vision range of about 10 feet! But without blinding opposing traffic.

inoperative HID lamp Adjustment, is, as I understand it, an MOT fail, even if they're nominally pointing the right way at the test centre (or so i was told)

Max

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..... After I'd had my car Tech II'd ......

It's what the Tech II said. Maybe it was having an off day and was mistaken then!!

MaxV6 · « **Reply #15 on:** 19 February 2007, 09:32:49 »

maybe it was.
no need to get cute, i was merely passing on info given to me by the Vx stealer when I enquired as to what the fault was and why my headlights suddenly point at the ground instead of where i'm going.

they were actually fairly forthcoming about what it is, how it works, and what it does and why.... which, admittedly is rather unusual for a dealer.....

Andy B · « **Reply #16 on:** 19 February 2007, 10:37:30 »

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maybe it was.
no need to get cute,

Moi!?

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i was merely passing on info given to me by the Vx stealer .....

Like wise , although it wasn't actually at the dealers - the technician came to me.

madmax · « **Reply #17 on:** 19 February 2007, 13:59:33 »

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The servos are on the back of the headlamp and connect to the reflector via a ball & socket type arrangement
I have an O/S Xenon Headlamp complete with Servo & the Power pack for 1999 if you are interested
Ian

its passenger side im after or both if available.....cheers

Jimbob · « **Reply #18 on:** 19 February 2007, 14:04:18 »

Where would you stand having tech2 adjust the field to give better view? are there many settings for this?

I ask because the wifes facelift has massively better lights than the mv6 (yes both HID before you ask

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As I'm at the dealer plugged into tech2 anyway next week, thought I may try and blag an improvement, if I know what to ask for that is.

In old terms it's like my headlight adjustment is at '2' compared to '0' on her's

MaxV6 · « **Reply #19 on:** 19 February 2007, 14:12:34 »

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Moi!?

hey, someone , somewhere, will have called you cute at least once.......

no worries, I was just being my usual obstreperous morning self .... .....

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Like wise , although it wasn't actually at the dealers - the technician came to me.

ooohhh posh....

visiting technicians eh??

all we get round here are DG sales teams and religious nuts....

TheBoy · « **Reply #20 on:** 19 February 2007, 14:31:23 »

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Where would you stand having tech2 adjust the field to give better view? are there many settings for this?

I ask because the wifes facelift has massively better lights than the mv6 (yes both HID before you ask )

As I'm at the dealer plugged into tech2 anyway next week, thought I may try and blag an improvement, if I know what to ask for that is.

In old terms it's like my headlight adjustment is at '2' compared to '0' on her's

No Tech2 adjustment. There is a calibration function that should be carried out.

Presumably yours are set to UK setting, not the flat 'universal' setting (which is lower) - double check the levers as per handbook...

Jimbob · « **Reply #21 on:** 19 February 2007, 14:34:54 »

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Where would you stand having tech2 adjust the field to give better view? are there many settings for this?

I ask because the wifes facelift has massively better lights than the mv6 (yes both HID before you ask )

As I'm at the dealer plugged into tech2 anyway next week, thought I may try and blag an improvement, if I know what to ask for that is.

In old terms it's like my headlight adjustment is at '2' compared to '0' on her's
No Tech2 adjustment. There is a calibration function that should be carried out.

Presumably yours are set to UK setting, not the flat 'universal' setting (which is lower) - double check the levers as per handbook...

Should have thought of that, esp as the car came from 'down south' so could well have been used a bit on the continent.

Jimbob · « **Reply #22 on:** 19 February 2007, 14:49:28 »

I belive the expression is 'doh!'

You are a genius!

Got the book out, and there are some biro marks from someone making notes!
Opened the lights and they are set as per the settings in the book, ie continent settings!

Made the change and they look better as far as I can tell in the light, will try properly later.

I Love this place!

TheBoy · « **Reply #23 on:** 19 February 2007, 15:01:59 »

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I belive the expression is 'doh!'

You are a genius!

Got the book out, and there are some biro marks from someone making notes!
Opened the lights and they are set as per the settings in the book, ie continent settings!

Made the change and they look better as far as I can tell in the light, will try properly later.

I Love this place!

We love easy (if you have small hands!) fixes

, so here's hoping thats cured it...

Jimbob · « **Reply #24 on:** 19 February 2007, 15:10:53 »

Large hands not a problem here.

Whoever did this liked the brute force approach, the 2 plastic covers above the lights 'wrenched' off and just resting on the top!

Was a van parked in front of me, 1/5 - 2 meters away
Pattern of the lights went from - - to more like / \ and seemed to illuminate about 2 inches higher up the van.

will add a couple of those securing clips to my shopping list!

Andy B · « **Reply #25 on:** 19 February 2007, 18:09:55 »

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ooohhh posh.... visiting technicians eh??

I assure you that Posh I ain't!!

Pitchfork · « **Reply #26 on:** 19 February 2007, 19:56:59 »

Only got the one it's Off-side (right)
Ian

theolodian · « **Reply #27 on:** 19 February 2007, 21:55:43 »

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Only got the one it's Off-side (right)
Ian

You have a pm.

Pitchfork · « **Reply #28 on:** 20 February 2007, 07:30:59 »

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Only got the one it's Off-side (right)
Ian
You have a pm.

Nothing rec'd, pse resend
Ian

madmax · « **Reply #29 on:** 20 February 2007, 15:16:20 »

back again.. cheers everyone for your input on my headlight problem..how hard is it to actually take the headlight apart to get to the inside..ie removing lens....

Andy B · « **Reply #30 on:** 20 February 2007, 17:47:43 »

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back again.. cheers everyone for your input on my headlight problem..how hard is it to actually take the headlight apart to get to the inside..ie removing lens....

Not too bad. A bit of patience & a Stanley knife to cut through the mastic/glue that holds on the lense.

madmax · « **Reply #31 on:** 20 February 2007, 20:01:23 »

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back again.. cheers everyone for your input on my headlight problem..how hard is it to actually take the headlight apart to get to the inside..ie removing lens....
Not too bad. A bit of patience & a Stanley knife to cut through the mastic/glue that holds on the lense.

ill have a go at the weekend....and have a proper go at fixing it...

theolodian · « **Reply #32 on:** 20 February 2007, 21:09:47 »

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Only got the one it's Off-side (right)
Ian
You have a pm.
Nothing rec'd, pse resend
Ian

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