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[deviator]

There is a reason they call it, 'The land of the freak and the home of the bravado' or something like that.

[Doctor Gollum]

Amazing really that a modern advanced country like the USA can't devise a fool proof electoral system that delivers an undisputed result quickly and efficiently.   

They have, on several occasions.... but as each State is independent and sets its own rules, those ideas have been rejected. The idea of the "united" states is something of a fallacy, each state regards its independence ferociously, but all the while wants money and prestige from the federal government.

This can clearly be seen today in both the methods/rules over voting, and the side issues being voted on in some states ... hard drugs now legal !! despite federal rules ....

That's why California and Oregon are Hard Left States that may as well not bother voting at all. Besides if you start prosecuting homeless drug addicts rather than encouraging them, then you have to house and feed them in prison. None of which looks good in the numbers and you get the kudos of 'helping' them whilst not actually dealing with it... A typical socialist stance.

[Doctor Gollum]

Another 1200 deaths from covid yesterday in the US. Nothing to do with maskless rallies, of course.

FFS, that's twenty six LESS than Europe (similar size area and population)

So argualy on the better side of the line and certainly within the realms of 'normal' whatever the opps that is nowadays 

[STEMO]

Another 1200 deaths from covid yesterday in the US. Nothing to do with maskless rallies, of course.

FFS, that's twenty six LESS than Europe (similar size area and population)

So argualy on the better side of the line and certainly within the realms of 'normal' whatever the opps that is nowadays 

Dear me  Once again, where did I mention Europe?  And where in Europe will you find leaders saying that we've turned a corner and everything is under control, whilst attending rallies with hundreds of people not wearing masks?
The man is an imbecile.

[STEMO]

The population of Europe is 741 million, btw, twice as big as the US.

[Doctor Gollum]

Orangemanbad didn't invent Batflu, so stop beating the bloke over the head with it. It's called a GLOBAL pandemic for a reason 
Statistical almost nobody died from it yesterday or the day before. And at least the US is openly reporting how many have recovered/active cases they have. Which is more than we seem able to

Political leaders tell us things all the time... Boris said much the same thing in March

[STEMO]

Orangemanbad didn't invent Batflu, so stop beating the bloke over the head with it. It's called a GLOBAL pandemic for a reason 
Statistical almost nobody died from it yesterday or the day before. And at least the US is openly reporting how many have recovered/active cases they have. Which is more than we seem able to

Political leaders tell us things all the time... Boris said much the same thing in March

Sorry, I must be reading all the fake news 
No one invented bat flu, it exists in nature. As does swine flu and now, apparently, mink flu. But, statistically, they probably won't kill a great percentage of the human race. Better just hope it's not one of your relatives that becomes one of those statistics.

And, once again, you're comparing the US to 'us'. Why?

[STEMO]

I thought, just in case, I'd have a bet on Trump winning the election at 6/1. After the bet was placed I got a list underneath saying 'People who placed a bet on this also bet on........'

The moon being made of cheese. Boris Johnson being an alien. Arsenal winning the premier league.

I may have wasted my tenner 

[Nick W]

I thought, just in case, I'd have a bet on Trump winning the election at 6/1. After the bet was placed I got a list underneath saying 'People who placed a bet on this also bet on........'

The moon being made of cheese. Boris Johnson being an alien. Arsenal winning the premier league.

I may have wasted my tenner 

The last two won't require a lawsuit to claim, but how would you prove the first? Melt it onto a chunk of bread and enjoy a light snack? That would require a massive heat source in the vicinity....

[STEMO]

I thought, just in case, I'd have a bet on Trump winning the election at 6/1. After the bet was placed I got a list underneath saying 'People who placed a bet on this also bet on........'

The moon being made of cheese. Boris Johnson being an alien. Arsenal winning the premier league.

I may have wasted my tenner 

The last two won't require a lawsuit to claim, but how would you prove the first? Melt it onto a chunk of bread and enjoy a light snack? That would require a massive heat source in the vicinity....

Easy. Just fire a rocket at the moon. If it goes bang, in a big fireball, it's not cheese. If it goes 'Splooooooop' and disappears beneath the surface .............

[STEMO]

Talking of socialist governments, Rishi is preparing to give a few more £billion away. We'll all have to repay it, so...Labour are a government of tax and spend, and the Tories are a government of....tax and spend. No wonder Generation X, post millennial snowflakes are confused, red and blue have become purple.

[Doctor Gollum]

That is a very good question, and was having this very conversation with my Bro yesterday. 

I would have to say that Trump, when he ran and was subsequently elected in 2016, was the perfect antidote to the general way that traditional values are being eroded at an almost exponential rate. And I was genuinely glad that he got in. I also hope he is reelected now, although I conceed that isn't looking likely, and if he ends up losing, it may be by two votes, which is no bad effort however you dress it up.

He has then spent the last four years constantly having to defend himself from both the left extremes and their indoctrined media, short of shooting him, they have literally spent four years trying to kick him out of the White House.

Sure, he isn't everyone's cup of tea, but at the same time, he says what he thinks, and whilst he relies heavily on Twitter to make his points, (personally I don't think that you can reasonably run a country in this way), he has made progress in the Middle East and has, at the outrage of everyone else deigned to put the US first. Which is how a President should be.

The liberal leftist mindset is, in my view, destroying all that used to be right in the world. Biden won't be President for long, he simply isn't mentally or physically upto the task. Whomsoever takes over from him will be far more left and that won't be good for the American people, and in the long run, that effects everyone else. It also won't be what everyone voted for.

In short, I think it's something that I have become drawn to, and fundamentally the way things are going is starting to really get on my nerves. It's not a new thing but rather one that has been festering since the late '90s. The problem is actually what, if anything can be done about it. And that REALLY bothers me 

[Doctor Gollum]

Talking of socialist governments, Rishi is preparing to give a few more £billion away. We'll all have to repay it, so...Labour are a government of tax and spend, and the Tories are a government of....tax and spend. No wonder Generation X, post millennial snowflakes are confused, red and blue have become purple.

I would much rather take my chances with Batflu and be working and contributing than taking.

[Sir Tigger KC]

I thought, just in case, I'd have a bet on Trump winning the election at 6/1. After the bet was placed I got a list underneath saying 'People who placed a bet on this also bet on........'

The moon being made of cheese. Boris Johnson being an alien. Arsenal winning the premier league.

I may have wasted my tenner 

The last two won't require a lawsuit to claim, but how would you prove the first? Melt it onto a chunk of bread and enjoy a light snack? That would require a massive heat source in the vicinity....

Easy. Just fire a rocket at the moon. If it goes bang, in a big fireball, it's not cheese. If it goes 'Splooooooop' and disappears beneath the surface .............

Ah that depends on what type of cheese the moon is made of! 

If it's made of smelly soft French cheese then yes 'Splooooooop', but a decent English Cheddar or Red Leicester? 

[Doctor Gollum]

It's obviously halloumi