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Title: Added another 6 litres to the stable last night...
Post by: aaronjb on 04 March 2012, 12:06:51
I thought I'd just post a couple of pics of my new acquisition to be dismantled and turned into something good pride and joy.. Poor fella selling it looked heartbroken when he said "You're not going to break it, are you?" and I replied "Er, can I refuse to answer that?" ;D

(http://i40.tinypic.com/2uiyzrn.jpg)

(http://i39.tinypic.com/331282t.jpg)

(http://i40.tinypic.com/6nwbvs.jpg)

Considering her age she drives beautifully - made it all the way back from Rhydlewis in Wales without skipping a beat aside from the fact that the brake lights packed up after 5 minutes (and then started working again 5 minutes from home) and to start it you have to waggle the gear lever (a dickey Park switch).. Oh and the passenger wing mirror only points at the floor & wobbles around.

Plenty of grunt, though, and compared to an Omega autobox (yes, a properly working one ;)) the gearbox is a dream - you really can't tell it's changed gear other than the rev counter dopping back down.

(Borrowed the pics off the eBay auction since it's pouring with rain outside and I don't really want to go and get wet  :-[ )
Title: Re: Added another 6 litres to the stable last night...
Post by: aaronjb on 04 March 2012, 12:09:16
Oh yes - I'd say the seats in the Omega are more comfortable (though these seem to have sagged a bit and I haven't really adjusted them beyond putting them back far enough that I could get in past the ships wheel), and it's easier to get in & out of an Omega than this.

You do feel a bit like an East London gangster behind the wheel, though .. ;D
Title: Re: Added another 6 litres to the stable last night...
Post by: tigers_gonads on 04 March 2012, 12:13:06
Mmmmmm
How much to lpg it  ;)
Title: Re: Added another 6 litres to the stable last night...
Post by: OOMV6 on 04 March 2012, 12:13:40
Looks fine. What's with the wheels though?
Title: Re: Added another 6 litres to the stable last night...
Post by: aaronjb on 04 March 2012, 12:15:42
Looks fine. What's with the wheels though?

They're not on it anymore - the seller put the standard Jag wheels back on it before getting shot..
Title: Re: Added another 6 litres to the stable last night...
Post by: tunnie on 04 March 2012, 12:23:31
Bet that just idles at motorway cruise!
Title: Re: Added another 6 litres to the stable last night...
Post by: aaronjb on 04 March 2012, 12:25:38
Bet that just idles at motorway cruise!

Pretty much! And it reckons 420 to a tank at 60mph when cruising, which isn't that bad really considering I get ~330 to a tank at 80mph in the Omega.. with half as many cylinders.
Title: Re: Added another 6 litres to the stable last night...
Post by: tunnie on 04 March 2012, 12:29:16
Much more fun buying an old barge that that, running it into the ground over say 6 months than running a FWD box.
Title: Re: Added another 6 litres to the stable last night...
Post by: aaronjb on 04 March 2012, 12:34:22
Yep - I was discussing that with Mark (the guy who gave me the lift to Wales in his 2.2DTi Omega); given the price of the car (£600!) and low cost of insurance (£350 with 0 NCB!) and tax (£118 for 6 months) it's probably cheaper - even with the cost of fuel - to buy a car like this every six months and then scrap it, than it is to buy an expensive, brand new, diesel microcar..

Unless you're doing mega mileage, of course, then the fuel would get a bit eye watering ;D
Title: Re: Added another 6 litres to the stable last night...
Post by: Field Marshal Dr. Opti on 04 March 2012, 16:56:53
Looks good, Aaron. Quicker than any Omega I would think. :y
Title: Re: Added another 6 litres to the stable last night...
Post by: JamesV6CDX on 04 March 2012, 19:12:55
that is the business.... Sell it to me!!
Title: Re: Added another 6 litres to the stable last night...
Post by: geoffr70 on 04 March 2012, 20:22:00
If you sell that in 6 months let me know
Title: Re: Added another 6 litres to the stable last night...
Post by: Entwood on 04 March 2012, 20:28:47
If you sell that in 6 months let me know

I think it will be in bits in 6 months ... with the engine driving 2 of a maximum of 3 wheels I believe ....  :)
Title: Re: Added another 6 litres to the stable last night...
Post by: aaronjb on 04 March 2012, 21:31:28
If you sell that in 6 months let me know

I think it will be in bits in 6 months ... with the engine driving 2 of a maximum of 3 wheels I believe ....  :)

Close - although I have no use for the engine, actually ;) The diff and front & rear axles, however, will be sitting under a very different shaped bodyshell and attached to a very different chassis :)
Title: Re: Added another 6 litres to the stable last night...
Post by: Cliffo B on 05 March 2012, 00:28:57
Oooo! Brutal no conscience :o :'( :'(
Title: Re: Added another 6 litres to the stable last night...
Post by: feeutfo on 05 March 2012, 00:42:20
Bah, 4 too many pots IMO. ;)

What's the power figures then?
Title: Re: Added another 6 litres to the stable last night...
Post by: 05omegav6 on 05 March 2012, 03:19:36
Bah, 4 too many pots IMO. ;)

What's the power figures then?

About 300 iirc :-\ a Merc V8 gives better for that vintage... though if the engine and box are 'free to good home' then I'm sure someone has got a blown up four pot that can be upgraded... :y
Title: Re: Added another 6 litres to the stable last night...
Post by: Kevin Wood on 05 March 2012, 09:38:12
Bah, 4 too many pots IMO. ;)

What's the power figures then?

About 300 iirc :-\ a Merc V8 gives better for that vintage... though if the engine and box are 'free to good home' then I'm sure someone has got a blown up four pot that can be upgraded... :y

Yep, double the cylinders, double the capacity, probably not far off double the weight, a shedload more fuel consumption and another 100 BHP over the Omega V6. But they do purr nicely.

The Merc. V12 is an animal, or at least the one on my mate's ebay bargain SL600 AMG was. :-*
Title: Re: Added another 6 litres to the stable last night...
Post by: aaronjb on 05 March 2012, 09:49:13
Bah, 4 too many pots IMO. ;)

What's the power figures then?

About 300 iirc :-\ a Merc V8 gives better for that vintage... though if the engine and box are 'free to good home' then I'm sure someone has got a blown up four pot that can be upgraded... :y

Yep, double the cylinders, double the capacity, probably not far off double the weight, a shedload more fuel consumption and another 100 BHP over the Omega V6. But they do purr nicely.

The Merc. V12 is an animal, or at least the one on my mate's ebay bargain SL600 AMG was. :-*

I was amazed when the seller turned the key and it fired up instantaneously and in utter, utter silence. And that was with the bonnet open and us stood staring at the engine! :-* Makes my Elite sound like a bag of spanners.
Title: Re: Added another 6 litres to the stable last night...
Post by: Kevin Wood on 05 March 2012, 10:02:52
On the only one I've driven (TWR tuned XJ-S 6.0 manual) the gearbox made much more noise than the engine, which is why it got returned to the dealer with a "thanks, but no thanks". Straight cut racing box my @rse!

You do need the rev counter to tell you when it's running. A lovely engine in that respect.
Title: Re: Added another 6 litres to the stable last night...
Post by: aaronjb on 05 March 2012, 10:13:28
The only thing I could hear - and I'm not even kidding - was birdsong, driving through Wales. It was that quiet in the car.. plus I hadn't worked out how to use the stereo, and even when I did I found only the tape deck worked; and the only tapes in the car were Jimmy Nail, Crocodile Shoes and The Corrs, Walk on Water. I am now intimately familiar with the lyrics to Crocodile Shoes ;D

The automatic gearbox is amazing, though, I must say - it's much, much smoother than the Omega box. So much so that you can't tell when it's swapped cogs at all. Picks up well, too, no matter what gear it's in - but then it ought to, really!
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Post by: Field Marshal Dr. Opti on 05 March 2012, 16:24:20
The only thing I could hear - and I'm not even kidding - was birdsong, driving through Wales. It was that quiet in the car.. plus I hadn't worked out how to use the stereo, and even when I did I found only the tape deck worked; and the only tapes in the car were Jimmy Nail, Crocodile Shoes and The Corrs, Walk on Water. I am now intimately familiar with the lyrics to Crocodile Shoes ;D

The automatic gearbox is amazing, though, I must say - it's much, much smoother than the Omega box. So much so that you can't tell when it's swapped cogs at all. Picks up well, too, no matter what gear it's in - but then it ought to, really!

That lump was first used in the V12 E-Type some forty years ago now (1971)

Only had a paltry 5.3 litres way back then. :y 
Title: Re: Added another 6 litres to the stable last night...
Post by: aaronjb on 05 March 2012, 16:27:52
That lump was first used in the V12 E-Type some forty years ago now (1971)

Only had a paltry 5.3 litres way back then. :y

Nothing wrong with old technology :) A set of downdraught Webers on the 6.0HE would be nice - though not in the Cobra ;) I have a 1968-cast 428 FE for that.
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Post by: 2woody on 07 March 2012, 23:02:10
you should have said - I have front and rear axles sitting in the shed for one of those, you could have had them for nowt. Have LSD, too. Are you sure you need XJ40-type subframes ? - it'll come as no surprise to you to learn that I have the earlier type, too.

I bought a replacement front and rear subframe for my XJR, intending to convert to 4.08 LSD (only manual XJRs had LSD)

is the car fitted with LSD ? - you can tell by a sticker on the side of the diff rear cover, the colour of the sticker tells all. As it would happen, looked at mine today.
Title: Re: Added another 6 litres to the stable last night...
Post by: aaronjb on 07 March 2012, 23:12:21
D'oh - although, I need the V5 as well to get an age related plate (rather than Q plate) :) Definitely XJ40 uprights, wishbones & rear end on the DeDion Dax - their IRS chassis uses the older Series gear, though.

It should have an LSD according to the Jag manual, the XJ12s (according to that) were fitted with 3.58:1 PL diffs - though I was rather hoping it'd have the 2.88:1 PL the earlier (Series) XJ12s had as that would have given me a really long 6th for cruising.

I haven't checked the actual diff yet, mind - I'll find out for sure when the car gets dismantled in a couple of weeks.
Title: Re: Added another 6 litres to the stable last night...
Post by: Entwood on 07 March 2012, 23:20:48
This what you intend to end up with ??? VERRRRRY NICE

http://www.daxcars.co.uk/tojeiro/specification.htm

 :y :y :y :y
Title: Re: Added another 6 litres to the stable last night...
Post by: aaronjb on 07 March 2012, 23:24:16
Yup, that's it :)

It was a tough call between that and the Crendon (http://www.crendonreplicas.com/) which arguably has a stiffer chassis with a nice IRS setup, but it doesn't fit me quite so well (being a .. large chap) and the Crendon is all about originality and making a replica as close as possible to the 'real thing' .. which wasn't what I was aiming for, really :)
Title: Re: Added another 6 litres to the stable last night...
Post by: Marks DTM Calib on 08 March 2012, 10:15:45
Has that got the Dax camber compensation setup on it?