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Chat Area => General Discussion Area => Topic started by: Webby the Bear on 21 March 2012, 09:50:29
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http://www.halfords.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/product_storeId_10001_catalogId_10151_productId_817617_categoryId_255207_langId_-1?cm_sp=Intelligent_Offer-_-Product_Details_Zone_1-_-Blank&iozone=PDPz1#tab3
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http://www.halfords.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/product_storeId_10001_catalogId_10151_productId_241361_categoryId_255207_langId_-1?cm_sp=Intelligent_Offer-_-Product_Details_Zone_1-_-Blank&iozone=PDPz1
Both 2 tons and both exactly same price.
The big red one appears tp come with tyre inflator too so i'm earing towards that.
Any thoughts as got to get it this week as doing brakes at weekemd :):):)
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If you want the jack to last, ESP with a Tarmac drive, you really need a minimum of 2.5 ton jack.
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If you want the jack to last, ESP with a Tarmac drive, you really need a minimum of 2.5 ton jack.
That's ashame. With dosh being tight ideally I only wanted to spend around the £60-£70 mark.
If I buy this as a ''starter'' kit with the view to upgrading in the future do you think I'll incur any probs with one of these kits?
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I've had a 2 ton trolley jack from Aldi several years ago, never given me any problems lifting the mig :y
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try and find some one with a trade card for a discount
iam sure that i read somewhere that those wheel chocks are not to be trusted.
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If you want the jack to last, ESP with a Tarmac drive, you really need a minimum of 2.5 ton jack.
That's ashame. With dosh being tight ideally I only wanted to spend around the £60-£70 mark.
If I buy this as a ''starter'' kit with the view to upgrading in the future do you think I'll incur any probs with one of these kits?
Well, depends how much use it will get?
Ime 2ton jobs have small wheels which dig in more. Given the radius movement of the saddle arm, if the wheels dig in the frame of the jack is stressed, so any side load and the whole thing can fold up like house of cards.
If you have a brick or concrete drive that allow the wheels to roll as the jack lifts and keep the jack at right angles to the car always, it should be ok. But if you intend to upgrade later you'll be saving money over the long term period by going straight for a 2.5 ton.
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To be honest chris it's just home use for now so can't see it being that much.
i think i'm gouing for the big red kit ;)
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Go on eBay, there's a good selection of three tonne jacks on there, all for good money and will be much better than any 2 tonnes.
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http://www.justoffbase.co.uk/Tool-Shop/Trolley-Jacks
Plenty of 3T jacks at the price point you're looking for by big name manufacturers with warranty etc - delivery is great from JoB, too.
Go for the one with the widest front wheels you can afford and the longest, lowest body.
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i'd have a few concerns with that jack, the Omega is lower than you think, I can see that one from first link struggling sometimes to get under the car. Maybe its just the image that makes it look too big at the front.
Also you do really need a 3 ton, you don't want to be pushing it to its limits, you want it to lift with ease :)
I spent about £65, good few years ago on my jack, a 3 ton low profile one. Apart from the Halfords 150 piece set, its the best thing I bought for the garage :)
(http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/319lu40L-ML._SL500_AA300_.jpg)
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cheers all.
tunnie i remember you kindly providing the link to that yellow halfords set. do you think the red set is just as good though cos it does include a trye pump which would be useful :y
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sorry just re-read.
the red one i suggested looks too big? but the yellow one is ok in your op? :)
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Get a decent 3 ton jack imho,ideally with na low entry and a decent side saddle which will spread the load area and be alot more stable.
Whilst both of the halford jacks have the ability to lift an Omega I would sooner put my trust is something that is hardly breaking a sweat to lift car safely than one that is at its upper limits,however little use it may get.
Remember you only get one chance with these things so get the best you can afford,same goes for axle stands.
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The one Tunnie posted a picture of is a great jack - if you can find one, get it. A friend has one and it's given us sterling service over the last seven years or so in his garage on all sorts of cars. Came from Costco from memory and very cheap.
The Sealey identical version is, sadly, quite a bit more expensive: http://www.justoffbase.co.uk/Trolley-Jack-3tonne-Low-Entry-3075LE-Sealey
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The toy jacks struggle to get the car up high enough to get under it.
Last time I was in Costco, they have Tunnie's one back in, was thinking of treating myself, but I couldn't lift it in the trolley ;D
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Last time I was in Costco, they have Tunnie's one back in, was thinking of treating myself, but I couldn't lift it in the trolley ;D
;D ;D The dangers of being a cripple!
Although .. if anyone should happen to pass a Costco and feel awfully generous, I'd love one of those jacks (it's lower entry than my 3T jack by a long shot) ;) (I'd pay, obviously ;D)
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If you want the jack to last, ESP with a Tarmac drive, you really need a minimum of 2.5 ton jack.
That's ashame. With dosh being tight ideally I only wanted to spend around the £60-£70 mark.
If I buy this as a ''starter'' kit with the view to upgrading in the future do you think I'll incur any probs with one of these kits?
Mate, both of those are made of chocolate. Buy sumat decent. Ratchet stands, 2.5/3.0 ton jack.
The creeper will never get used, and the jack pictured won't lift the car high enough to use it under the car anyway... blocks of wood will do for chocks.
Save your money for sumat worth spending on.
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Pains me to say, but I agree with GayboyGixer...
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Chris, once you've picked yourself up off the floor ( ;D ) we agree on this one :y
Those 2 tonne Jacks are ideal for an emergency wheel change at the side of the road - that is honestly it.
For trying to lift / work on the car, they are shite. total shite.
The Clarke 3 tonne job (or any other 3 tonne jack for that matter) will be MUCH more stable.
I also clearly recollect a post on here whereby one of those axle stands collapsed. Potentially fatal.
Don't do it Webby ;)
My recommendations are:
Jack
Machine mart - Clarke 3 tonne professional job at £75 plus the dreaded....
(http://www.machinemart.co.uk/images/library/product/large/02/020113030.jpg)
Stands
Machine Mart again - £71 plus the dreaded... 4 tonne capacity...
(http://www.machinemart.co.uk/images/library/product/large/02/020115030.jpg)
I personally prefer these to the majority of ratchet type stands sold, because these ones have a great head which the chassis rail nicely sits in = total guaranteed security.... whereby the ratchet ones are not very deep, and don't seem to 'fit' the chassis rail that well...
In perspective Webby, £146 plus Vat for a decent safe lifting kit which will last years, isn't a great deal ;)
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Thanks all.
Went to Halfords tonight and got the axel stands and jack (2 tonne ''big red'') for £39.99. i opted to save a bit of dosh on the 5 piece set inc. creeper and some other 'dangle berries'. i know you posted loads and thanks for that.... unfortunately couldn't get to read them in time as i been busy all day.
Now it definitely fits under the car but already, as you folks have posted, it doesn't look as substantial as I'd like.
So, tomorrow I'm going to give it a whirl and take it back irrespective of performance and get the ones you dudes suggested. I am due a Costco trip so I'll give that a go ;)
by the way, can i put the axel stands under the sills? i know they sit nicely on the chasis but just a thought :)
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If you're planning to take back... don't use it. If it's marked etc, you may struggle... as it won't be in resalable condition :y
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I have one of these, excellent bit of kit, but very difficult to manoeuvre, but I do use it on a really rough surface so can't complain :y
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/ARCAN-3-TONNE-LOW-PROFILE-MECHANICS-TROLLEY-JACK-/310341887105?pt=UK_Lifting_Moving_Equipment&hash=item4841d16481#ht_4738wt_1163
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Not on sills. Use the re enforced areas and chassis rails in board of the sills.
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PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE use axle stands all the time i had a really bad experience where a jack came down on me i was in my youth of corse with no brains. To this day everytime i jack a car up my bums twitching it frightend the life out of me. I was very lucky someone else was there or i wouldnt be typing this. :y
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Thanks all again for the comments. i will defo use axel stands as i too am paranoid!!!
the stands i have are 1 tonne each (obviously 2 tonne the pair). so when i'm doing the front pads on the drivers side can i use just one axel stand near the front or should i really have one at the front drivers side and one at the back? or will the one on drivers side at front be ok?
the reason i ask is cos where the car is parked i cant really get to the passeger side to jack that up and do those pads so just going to practise on the drivers side.
hope that makes sense lol
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I have same stands JamesV6 posted, they are much, much better than the Machine Mart ones, they fit nicely on the chassis rail, without damaging it.
Also I don't like the Machine Mart jack, I find its "teeth" too big and it tends to dig in a lot
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I thought each stand should take 2 tonne or is that as a load spread on 2 stands ?
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Hi chaps... right is this the correct place for the jack to go? i jacked it up and i got scared :-[ as it was creaking a tad. however, i think its the right place and i was going to place 2 axel stands next to each other just behind the jack. that ok?
(http://i1226.photobucket.com/albums/ee402/webbybear1/Jack.jpg)
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No, thats too deep in, 2 ticks i'll get right photo
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As per my oil change guide:
(http://images.omegaowners.com/images/guides/4pot_oil_change/DSC05679.JPG)
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Sweeeeeeet... cheers mate.
so basically jack stand a touch further back towards the rear of the car and the jack just behind the factory jacking point :y :y :y :y :y
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Was in costco (reading) at the weekend and they had a nice solid 3 ton jack for £80 all in. It also had a low starting point - looked a good bit of kit as mentioned by others