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Title: jaguar xf is sh..y
Post by: mathewst on 30 March 2012, 00:45:25
Just heard my friend has problems again with his jag XF 2.7d
First his handbrake went dead and was repaired under waranty.
Now the car overheated as he was on a trip.
Supposedly the fan died and the car overheated in town traffic.
Of course this hapened just after the waranty expired
It also lost coolant, but according to jag dealer it is not loosing it anymore (without them doing anything  :o
There were also some more problems but cant remeber which exactly.
Pretty lousy car it seems, he bought it new and has regreted choosing it instead of A5 audi
Title: Re: jaguar xf is sh..y
Post by: mantahatch on 30 March 2012, 07:34:22
Sorry that your friend is having problems. But if I had a choice between an XF and a A5 the XF would win everytime.
Regarding audi have you read this thread http://www.omegaowners.com/forum/index.php?topic=43952.0 make some interesting reading regarding how poor they are. Also look closely at how long the problem has gone on for.
Title: Re: jaguar xf is sh..y
Post by: TheBoy on 30 March 2012, 09:17:03
I fancy an XF....
Title: Re: jaguar xf is sh..y
Post by: RN55ONE on 30 March 2012, 09:29:00
XF all the way.

I think one of the reason why British cars fell out of favour to the German rivals was build quality.
So more and more people stopped buying them, which in turn meant that they would have to 'cut corners' and cost save.
This just made it worse.

And to be honest, Audi, BMW and Mercedes have poor reliability and quality (most models, not all) these days anyway, if you take customer survey results.

Jaguar Land Rover have been given a life line now and are selling huge in Asia as well as the rest of the world.
In my opinion the new designs they are coming out with rival and even better the Germans. All they needed was the money.
S class, 7 Series and the A8 have nothing on the XJ.
Title: Re: jaguar xf is sh..y
Post by: tunnie on 30 March 2012, 10:23:48
I fancy an XF-R....

Fixed that for you  :y
Title: Re: jaguar xf is sh..y
Post by: doz on 30 March 2012, 10:26:09
My wife tried to get me off the bikes by promising me a XF. I went with the idea until I found out I had to buy it myself ::) ::)
Title: Re: jaguar xf is sh..y
Post by: pscocoa on 30 March 2012, 10:50:14
Sorry that your friend is having problems. But if I had a choice between an XF and a A5 the XF would win everytime.
Regarding audi have you read this thread http://www.omegaowners.com/forum/index.php?topic=43952.0 make some interesting reading regarding how poor they are. Also look closely at how long the problem has gone on for.

There is another post re Audi on this thread today
Title: Re: jaguar xf is sh..y
Post by: TheBoy on 30 March 2012, 12:29:07
I fancy an XF-R....

Fixed that for you  :y
Yup, although I wouldn't mind an XF Diesel either  :-[  (I know, I'll wash my mouth with bleach)
Title: Re: jaguar xf is sh..y
Post by: henryd on 30 March 2012, 12:41:26
I fancy an XF-R....

Fixed that for you  :y
Yup, although I wouldn't mind an XF Diesel either  :-[  (I know, I'll wash my mouth with bleach)

Later v6 oiler has serious go and good economy so best of both worlds  :y :y
Title: Re: jaguar xf is sh..y
Post by: Gaffers on 30 March 2012, 13:07:57
Yes but the servicing will hit you hard in the wallet.  £300+ for an oil change.........
Title: Re: jaguar xf is sh..y
Post by: tunnie on 30 March 2012, 13:11:19
Yes but the servicing will hit you hard in the wallet.  £300+ for an oil change.........

Even more reason to DIY oil changes, surely no harder than V6 oil change? Would usual GM 10/40 go in?  :-\
Title: Re: jaguar xf is sh..y
Post by: Gaffers on 30 March 2012, 13:13:46
Yes but the servicing will hit you hard in the wallet.  £300+ for an oil change.........

Even more reason to DIY oil changes, surely no harder than V6 oil change? Would usual GM 10/40 go in?  :-\

Nope, the dpf requires a very expensive type of oil (cant remember exactly which) plus any DIY on the car seriously increases depreciation.
Title: Re: jaguar xf is sh..y
Post by: tunnie on 30 March 2012, 13:15:16
Yes but the servicing will hit you hard in the wallet.  £300+ for an oil change.........

Even more reason to DIY oil changes, surely no harder than V6 oil change? Would usual GM 10/40 go in?  :-\

Nope, the dpf requires a very expensive type of oil (cant remember exactly which) plus any DIY on the car seriously increases depreciation.

I did'nt know it needed super expensive oil, that really does reverse the mpg savings!
Title: Re: jaguar xf is sh..y
Post by: mathewst on 30 March 2012, 13:36:11
I know Audi has problems, VW also especially with 2.0Tdi engines which are dreadfull.
But to my knowledge this is not the case with bigger 3.0Tdi.
Also mentioned A3 is not an Audi it is a Golf in slightly fancier clothing.
I do like the looks of an XF it is beautiful especially inside but what is going on with my friends car is awful.
And service is really expensive plus the only authorized dealer here is at least to say BAD.
Title: Re: jaguar xf is sh..y
Post by: henryd on 30 March 2012, 14:21:40
Yes but the servicing will hit you hard in the wallet.  £300+ for an oil change.........

Even more reason to DIY oil changes, surely no harder than V6 oil change? Would usual GM 10/40 go in?  :-\

Nope, the dpf requires a very expensive type of oil (cant remember exactly which) plus any DIY on the car seriously increases depreciation.

Low sulphur stuff I think which is dear at the dealers but cheaper elsewhere
Title: Re: jaguar xf is sh..y
Post by: Del Boy on 30 March 2012, 14:50:54
XF all the way.

I think one of the reason why British cars fell out of favour to the German rivals was build quality.
So more and more people stopped buying them, which in turn meant that they would have to 'cut corners' and cost save.
This just made it worse.

And to be honest, Audi, BMW and Mercedes have poor reliability and quality (most models, not all) these days anyway, if you take customer survey results.

Jaguar Land Rover have been given a life line now and are selling huge in Asia as well as the rest of the world.
In my opinion the new designs they are coming out with rival and even better the Germans. All they needed was the money.
S class, 7 Series and the A8 have nothing on the XJ.

I couldn't agree less with that statement. S Class is the most comfortable, the 7 Series drives the best out of all the big limos, the Jag does exceed the A8, but it can't match any of them for quality in my opinion.
Title: Re: jaguar xf is sh..y
Post by: noel on 30 March 2012, 20:41:39
My wife tried to get me off the bikes by promising me a XF. I went with the idea until I found out I had to buy it myself
that's women for you .full of good ideas till it comes to paying for them  ;D ;D
Title: Re: jaguar xf is sh..y
Post by: TheBoy on 30 March 2012, 21:52:15
Yes but the servicing will hit you hard in the wallet.  £300+ for an oil change.........
I suspect Mrs TB could sort that for me ::)
Title: Re: jaguar xf is sh..y
Post by: waspy on 31 March 2012, 19:10:17
My mates just bought an XF 2.2 diesel & he loves it :y :y

Looks bloody fantastic too 8) 8) 8) 8)
Title: Re: jaguar xf is sh..y
Post by: 05omegav6 on 03 April 2012, 04:02:11
XF all the way.

I think one of the reason why British cars fell out of favour to the German rivals was build quality.
So more and more people stopped buying them, which in turn meant that they would have to 'cut corners' and cost save.
This just made it worse.

And to be honest, Audi, BMW and Mercedes have poor reliability and quality (most models, not all) these days anyway, if you take customer survey results.

Jaguar Land Rover have been given a life line now and are selling huge in Asia as well as the rest of the world.
In my opinion the new designs they are coming out with rival and even better the Germans. All they needed was the money.
S class, 7 Series and the A8 have nothing on the XJ.

I couldn't agree less with that statement. S Class is the most comfortable, the 7 Series drives the best out of all the big limos, the Jag does exceed the A8, but it can't match any of them for quality in my opinion.
When do you pick up the Jag Del? Purely for research purposes of course :P
Title: Re: jaguar xf is sh..y
Post by: aaronjb on 03 April 2012, 09:11:38
One of the guys at work has the big diesel XF.. it's pretty rapid for a wheezil! At least as rapid (it felt more, in fact) than the big engined A8 diesel another guy had - and at least the XF hasn't been back to the dealer every other week for repairs - unlike most of the Audis at work! ;D..

Although according to one of the Audi owners (who happens to be German), that's just because British mechanics all come with stetsons and spurs .. ;D (Unlike their German counterparts, who are presumably all wearing Lederhosen)