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Title: BTCC
Post by: the alarming man on 15 April 2012, 18:00:47
Did anyone see that cheating pikey plato dodgey move on sheddon unbelivable....should be thrown out for that there is no way on earth that  was harsh breaking that was blatent cheating
Title: Re: BTCC
Post by: ozzycat on 15 April 2012, 20:52:55
 :( :(yep its sad that he has to resort to this  but hes getting old so he cheats not fair >:( >:(
Title: Re: BTCC
Post by: feeutfo on 15 April 2012, 21:58:08
Did you see the F1 race today? Far more exciting than that boring snoring cars rubbish. ;D
Title: Re: BTCC
Post by: the alarming man on 15 April 2012, 22:01:22
nah got fed up with that idiot hamilton breakdown then moaning...mind you he was always good at moaning....
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Post by: feeutfo on 15 April 2012, 22:02:44
Didn't brake down today :)
Title: Re: BTCC
Post by: the alarming man on 15 April 2012, 22:12:34
no the problem is i can not stand hamilton i knew him when he drove karts and he up set a few because of his antics..is a sniverling llittle sh1t..... :y
Title: Re: BTCC
Post by: the alarming man on 15 April 2012, 22:53:43
plato demoted to third cheating little pikey lol..... :y
Title: Re: BTCC
Post by: feeutfo on 15 April 2012, 23:02:04
Your loss. ;)
Title: Re: BTCC
Post by: albitz on 15 April 2012, 23:28:05
no the problem is i can not stand hamilton i knew him when he drove karts and he up set a few because of his antics..is a sniverling llittle sh1t..... :y

He may or may not be,but he is also imo probably the best driver since Senna.
Title: Re: BTCC
Post by: doz on 15 April 2012, 23:31:24
Well I watched some really exciting motorsport today at Thruxton. British Superbikkes came to town and it was bloody excellent if just a little cold  :)
Title: Re: BTCC
Post by: TheBoy on 16 April 2012, 10:00:38
no the problem is i can not stand hamilton i knew him when he drove karts and he up set a few because of his antics..is a sniverling llittle sh1t..... :y

He may or may not be,but he is also imo probably the best driver since Senna.
He certainly has a true desire to race, unlike the majority. Not entirely sure he is at the same level of man/machine as Senna. Button is also, IMHO, a great driver, but lacks the desire, and is happy to follow, rather than attack (much like the rest of them).

Shithead Schu, as much as I don't like the bloke, did have (and hopefully will re-find) that almost Senna-esque ability to get more than 100% out of the car. And always played very hard, winning was everything, even if it meant 2 cars going for the space of one.  The great man Senna wasn't exactly pure as the driven snow in this respect.
Title: Re: BTCC
Post by: Elite Pete on 16 April 2012, 10:11:09
IMHO BTCC has always been the same, if you can't get past give them a nudge on a corner and off they go ::)
Title: Re: BTCC
Post by: Elite Pete on 16 April 2012, 10:11:47
Forgot to add, the new MG is quite impressive :y
Title: Re: BTCC
Post by: albitz on 16 April 2012, 10:16:39
Didnt say he was on Sennas level (he isnt),but the best since Senna.
Senna was hard as nails on the track,Scummacher is also hard as nails.Difference imo - Scumacher is a cheat and doesnt have a sporting bone in his body.He has driven bent cars most of his career,he has caused many accidents which could have maimed or killed people.He has deliberately driven other drivers off the track time & time again. The only person I remember Senna doing that to was Prost,and everyone seems to forget that prost did the same thing to him at the same track the previous year.Scumacher doesnt care how he get the result as long as the results state that he crossed the line first. Senna actually had a very strong set of ethics,although admittedly they didnt always seem to be the same as everyone elses,or even make sense sometimes.
I find it interesting that Hamilton constantly mentions Senna and Gilles Villenueve as his heros / influences,but has never mentioned Scumacher in those terms.
Title: Re: BTCC
Post by: sassanach on 16 April 2012, 17:18:24
oh please people, in this "sport" they are all at it,they are all either dishing it out or taking it.im no fan of plato(and i accept he's probably the worst)but sheddon is no angel,and i'm sure matt neal is up there somewhere.either way its much more exciting to watch than f1
Title: Re: BTCC
Post by: cleggy on 16 April 2012, 17:37:02
Didnt say he was on Sennas level (he isnt),but the best since Senna.
Senna was hard as nails on the track,Scummacher is also hard as nails.Difference imo - Scumacher is a cheat and doesnt have a sporting bone in his body.He has driven bent cars most of his career,he has caused many accidents which could have maimed or killed people.He has deliberately driven other drivers off the track time & time again. The only person I remember Senna doing that to was Prost,and everyone seems to forget that prost did the same thing to him at the same track the previous year.Scumacher doesnt care how he get the result as long as the results state that he crossed the line first. Senna actually had a very strong set of ethics,although admittedly they didnt always seem to be the same as everyone elses,or even make sense sometimes.
I find it interesting that Hamilton constantly mentions Senna and Gilles Villenueve as his heros / influences,but has never mentioned Scumacher in those terms.

Albs,
I totally agree with you Senna was special he was at one with the car, although probably a little too fearless. :y I saw him die in that Williams and cried, the sport lost something that day. :'( Schumacher for all his championships was not in his league and yes an unsporting cheat(well he is German), imagine them both a Ferrari at the same time who would have been champion? Lewis is probably the only real racer on the track today :y Jenson doesn't have the extra something. I do like the way Vettel now pouts like a girl, two fingers now boy, not one. ;D ;D This has the potential to be the best season for many a year :y
 
BTCC! well boys and toys ;D ;D IMHO
Title: Re: BTCC
Post by: the alarming man on 16 April 2012, 20:04:49
oh please people, in this "sport" they are all at it,they are all either dishing it out or taking it.im no fan of plato(and i accept he's probably the worst)but sheddon is no angel,and i'm sure matt neal is up there somewhere.either way its much more exciting to watch than f1


got too agree with you there but plato is always doing it...and if you are going to do something like that you dont get caught :y
Title: Re: BTCC
Post by: bored bigyin54 on 17 April 2012, 16:40:12
no the problem is i can not stand hamilton i knew him when he drove karts and he up set a few because of his antics..is a sniverling llittle sh1t..... :y
i agree with you there he is a dangerous driver :y :y :y :y
Title: Re: BTCC
Post by: bored bigyin54 on 17 April 2012, 16:42:19
no the problem is i can not stand hamilton i knew him when he drove karts and he up set a few because of his antics..is a sniverling llittle sh1t..... :y

He may or may not be,but he is also imo probably the best driver since Senna.
he is crap albs cant drive to save his life  >:( >:( >:( >:(
Title: Re: BTCC
Post by: tunnie on 17 April 2012, 16:44:57
no the problem is i can not stand hamilton i knew him when he drove karts and he up set a few because of his antics..is a sniverling llittle sh1t..... :y

He may or may not be,but he is also imo probably the best driver since Senna.
he is crap albs cant drive to save his life  >:( >:( >:( >:(

So you can drive better than him?  ::)
Title: Re: BTCC
Post by: bored bigyin54 on 17 April 2012, 16:49:33
no the problem is i can not stand hamilton i knew him when he drove karts and he up set a few because of his antics..is a sniverling llittle sh1t..... :y

He may or may not be,but he is also imo probably the best driver since Senna.
he is crap albs cant drive to save his life  >:( >:( >:( >:(

So you can drive better than him?  ::)
yes why  :y :y :y who cant
Title: Re: BTCC
Post by: tunnie on 17 April 2012, 16:54:32
no the problem is i can not stand hamilton i knew him when he drove karts and he up set a few because of his antics..is a sniverling llittle sh1t..... :y

He may or may not be,but he is also imo probably the best driver since Senna.
he is crap albs cant drive to save his life  >:( >:( >:( >:(

So you can drive better than him?  ::)
yes why  :y :y :y

So why are you not bidding for F1 Championship?

Really Ralf your own personal opinions take over, all of the top current drivers, Vettle, Webber, Button, Hamilton, Alonso, if you remove their personalities there is unquestionable talent there. 

Alonso for example, what a freaking idiot he is, can't stand him. But being a double world champion he knows his stuff.

Hamilton also a World Champion, he knows what he is doing behind a wheel at 200mph. Saying he cannot "drive to save his life", just shows your well  :-X
Title: Re: BTCC
Post by: bored bigyin54 on 17 April 2012, 16:57:36
no the problem is i can not stand hamilton i knew him when he drove karts and he up set a few because of his antics..is a sniverling llittle sh1t..... :y

He may or may not be,but he is also imo probably the best driver since Senna.
he is crap albs cant drive to save his life  >:( >:( >:( >:(

So you can drive better than him?  ::)
yes why  :y :y :y

So why are you not bidding for F1 Championship?

Really Ralf your own personal opinions take over, all of the top current drivers, Vettle, Webber, Button, Hamilton, Alonso, if you remove their personalities there is unquestionable talent there. 

Alonso for example, what a freaking idiot he is, can't stand him. But being a double world champion he knows his stuff.

Hamilton also a World Champion, he knows what he is doing behind a wheel at 200mph. Saying he cannot "drive to save his life", just shows your well  :-X
anyone can drive a computer car so dont tell me he is good james hunt was a lot better than him  :y :y :y :y :y
Title: Re: BTCC
Post by: the alarming man on 17 April 2012, 17:00:13
no the problem is i can not stand hamilton i knew him when he drove karts and he up set a few because of his antics..is a sniverling llittle sh1t..... :y

He may or may not be,but he is also imo probably the best driver since Senna.
he is crap albs cant drive to save his life  >:( >:( >:( >:(

So you can drive better than him?  ::)
yes why  :y :y :y

So why are you not bidding for F1 Championship?

Really Ralf your own personal opinions take over, all of the top current drivers, Vettle, Webber, Button, Hamilton, Alonso, if you remove their personalities there is unquestionable talent there. 

Alonso for example, what a freaking idiot he is, can't stand him. But being a double world champion he knows his stuff.

Hamilton also a World Champion, he knows what he is doing behind a wheel at 200mph. Saying he cannot "drive to save his life", just shows your well  :-X


tunnie you have hit nail on the head it is their personalities  :y
Title: Re: BTCC
Post by: bored bigyin54 on 17 April 2012, 17:08:18
no the problem is i can not stand hamilton i knew him when he drove karts and he up set a few because of his antics..is a sniverling llittle sh1t..... :y

He may or may not be,but he is also imo probably the best driver since Senna.
he is crap albs cant drive to save his life  >:( >:( >:( >:(

So you can drive better than him?  ::)
yes why  :y :y :y

So why are you not bidding for F1 Championship?

Really Ralf your own personal opinions take over, all of the top current drivers, Vettle, Webber, Button, Hamilton, Alonso, if you remove their personalities there is unquestionable talent there. 

Alonso for example, what a freaking idiot he is, can't stand him. But being a double world champion he knows his stuff.

Hamilton also a World Champion, he knows what he is doing behind a wheel at 200mph. Saying he cannot "drive to save his life", just shows your well  :-X


tunnie you have hit nail on the head it is their personalities  :y
and hamilton is a clown put him in a car like lotus then we will see how good he is :y :y :y :y
Title: Re: BTCC
Post by: tunnie on 17 April 2012, 17:11:04
no the problem is i can not stand hamilton i knew him when he drove karts and he up set a few because of his antics..is a sniverling llittle sh1t..... :y

He may or may not be,but he is also imo probably the best driver since Senna.
he is crap albs cant drive to save his life  >:( >:( >:( >:(

So you can drive better than him?  ::)
yes why  :y :y :y

So why are you not bidding for F1 Championship?

Really Ralf your own personal opinions take over, all of the top current drivers, Vettle, Webber, Button, Hamilton, Alonso, if you remove their personalities there is unquestionable talent there. 

Alonso for example, what a freaking idiot he is, can't stand him. But being a double world champion he knows his stuff.

Hamilton also a World Champion, he knows what he is doing behind a wheel at 200mph. Saying he cannot "drive to save his life", just shows your well  :-X


tunnie you have hit nail on the head it is their personalities  :y
and hamilton is a clown put him in a car like lotus then we will see how good he is :y :y :y :y

Button suffered for years in a crap Honda, BAR and such, now he is in a decent car shows his true performance. 
Title: Re: BTCC
Post by: bored bigyin54 on 17 April 2012, 17:14:59
no the problem is i can not stand hamilton i knew him when he drove karts and he up set a few because of his antics..is a sniverling llittle sh1t..... :y

He may or may not be,but he is also imo probably the best driver since Senna.
he is crap albs cant drive to save his life  >:( >:( >:( >:(

So you can drive better than him?  ::)
yes why  :y :y :y

So why are you not bidding for F1 Championship?

Really Ralf your own personal opinions take over, all of the top current drivers, Vettle, Webber, Button, Hamilton, Alonso, if you remove their personalities there is unquestionable talent there. 

Alonso for example, what a freaking idiot he is, can't stand him. But being a double world champion he knows his stuff.

Hamilton also a World Champion, he knows what he is doing behind a wheel at 200mph. Saying he cannot "drive to save his life", just shows your well  :-X


tunnie you have hit nail on the head it is their personalities  :y
and hamilton is a clown put him in a car like lotus then we will see how good he is :y :y :y :y

Button suffered for years in a crap Honda, BAR and such, now he is in a decent car shows his true performance.
i wasnt talking about button  :y :y :y :y :y
Title: Re: BTCC
Post by: tunnie on 17 April 2012, 17:17:25
Just pointing out a lot of it is due to the competitiveness of the car, look at Vettel this year, struggling.

Do you really need so many smiley faces in every single post?
Title: Re: BTCC
Post by: cleggy on 17 April 2012, 17:30:22
no the problem is i can not stand hamilton i knew him when he drove karts and he up set a few because of his antics..is a sniverling llittle sh1t..... :y

He may or may not be,but he is also imo probably the best driver since Senna.
he is crap albs cant drive to save his life  >:( >:( >:( >:(

So you can drive better than him?  ::)
yes why  :y :y :y

So why are you not bidding for F1 Championship?

Really Ralf your own personal opinions take over, all of the top current drivers, Vettle, Webber, Button, Hamilton, Alonso, if you remove their personalities there is unquestionable talent there. 

Alonso for example, what a freaking idiot he is, can't stand him. But being a double world champion he knows his stuff.

Hamilton also a World Champion, he knows what he is doing behind a wheel at 200mph. Saying he cannot "drive to save his life", just shows your well  :-X
anyone can drive a computer car so dont tell me he is good james hunt was a lot better than him  :y :y :y :y :y

Absolute tosh he wasn't called Hunt the Shunt for nothing ;D ;D
Title: Re: BTCC
Post by: bored bigyin54 on 17 April 2012, 17:31:50
Just pointing out a lot of it is due to the competitiveness of the car, look at Vettel this year, struggling.

Do you really need so many smiley faces in every single post?
thats up to me i think  :y
Title: Re: BTCC
Post by: bob.dent on 18 April 2012, 10:15:51
no the problem is i can not stand hamilton i knew him when he drove karts and he up set a few because of his antics..is a sniverling llittle sh1t..... :y

He may or may not be,but he is also imo probably the best driver since Senna.
he is crap albs cant drive to save his life  >:( >:( >:( >:(

So you can drive better than him?  ::)
yes why  :y :y :y

So why are you not bidding for F1 Championship?

Really Ralf your own personal opinions take over, all of the top current drivers, Vettle, Webber, Button, Hamilton, Alonso, if you remove their personalities there is unquestionable talent there. 

Alonso for example, what a freaking idiot he is, can't stand him. But being a double world champion he knows his stuff.

Hamilton also a World Champion, he knows what he is doing behind a wheel at 200mph. Saying he cannot "drive to save his life", just shows your well  :-X
anyone can drive a computer car so dont tell me he is good james hunt was a lot better than him  :y :y :y :y :y

Absolute tosh he wasn't called Hunt the Shunt for nothing ;D ;D

An interesting discussion but shows how little many people have no idea what driving a real racing car is really like! Modern day F1 cars are extremely complex machines to drive with the driver having to make dozens of adjustments such as brake balance, KERS, radio etc. while racing at unbelievable speeds (to us mortals) with 24 other cars, inches apart. To say any F1 driver is useless or has no talent is an unbelievable ignorance - F1 drivers are at the pinnacle of motorsport and among the best racing drivers in the world - they don't get to be in F1 lightly. Sure, some are better than others but's that's exactly what it's all about - to find out who is best. Quite a few years ago I had the priviledge of driving a 2.0L Palmer Audi single seater around Brands Hatch and it's no walk in the park believe me!! Concentration required is unbelievable and it's physically exhausting - I was absolutely breaked after 12 laps!
At the end of the day it doesn't matter what a drivers personality is like, it's what they do that counts. :y

Oh yes, as for BTCC, love him or hate him, Plato is one the best. I watched it last night and thought he was brilliant. Let's face it, incidents like that happen frequently in BTCC and ALL the drivers are guilty of the odd misdemeanor and a bit of gamesmanship at times. ::)
Title: Re: BTCC
Post by: tigers_gonads on 18 April 2012, 10:31:59
I also watched it last night.

As far as I could see, it was just a typical BTCC race  :y
If Sheddon couldn't handle a bit of argy bargy then he should have moved over.
As for Sheddon saying in the interview afterwoods that "I can brake when and where I want", that smacks of a arogent little sh*t who spat his dummy out  ::)
At the end of the day, Plato was faster and Sheddon was blocking him by brakeing when it wasn't required.
If Sheddon is upset at that, he should have raced 25 years ago when Andy Rouse and co was racing.
He would be blubbing to mummy after every race  ::)

As for non contact sport, Yeh ok Gordon  ::) ::)
Title: Re: BTCC
Post by: feeutfo on 18 April 2012, 20:15:56
Amazing really is. I don't like this driver, or that rider, I like this rider or driver because of this that or the other.


...points. Thats it, there's nothing else. I'd of punted Sneddon, no problem at all. WhoopsAAAYAA. ;D

Face the music later. Not sure I'd have waited as long as Plato did either.
Title: Re: BTCC
Post by: paul.lovejoy on 19 April 2012, 21:08:49
think the last 3 replys said it all really from Bob Tiger and chris :y :y

but sheer big rather balls has to go to the TT and NW200 etc :y
Title: Re: BTCC
Post by: bored bigyin54 on 19 April 2012, 21:47:59
no the problem is i can not stand hamilton i knew him when he drove karts and he up set a few because of his antics..is a sniverling llittle sh1t..... :y

He may or may not be,but he is also imo probably the best driver since Senna.
he is crap albs cant drive to save his life  >:( >:( >:( >:(

So you can drive better than him?  ::)
yes why  :y :y :y

So why are you not bidding for F1 Championship?

Really Ralf your own personal opinions take over, all of the top current drivers, Vettle, Webber, Button, Hamilton, Alonso, if you remove their personalities there is unquestionable talent there. 

Alonso for example, what a freaking idiot he is, can't stand him. But being a double world champion he knows his stuff.

Hamilton also a World Champion, he knows what he is doing behind a wheel at 200mph. Saying he cannot "drive to save his life", just shows your well  :-X
anyone can drive a computer car so dont tell me he is good james hunt was a lot better than him  :y :y :y :y :y

Absolute tosh he wasn't called Hunt the Shunt for nothing ;D ;D

An interesting discussion but shows how little many people have no idea what driving a real racing car is really like! Modern day F1 cars are extremely complex machines to drive with the driver having to make dozens of adjustments such as brake balance, KERS, radio etc. while racing at unbelievable speeds (to us mortals) with 24 other cars, inches apart. To say any F1 driver is useless or has no talent is an unbelievable ignorance - F1 drivers are at the pinnacle of motorsport and among the best racing drivers in the world - they don't get to be in F1 lightly. Sure, some are better than others but's that's exactly what it's all about - to find out who is best. Quite a few years ago I had the priviledge of driving a 2.0L Palmer Audi single seater around Brands Hatch and it's no walk in the park believe me!! Concentration required is unbelievable and it's physically exhausting - I was absolutely breaked after 12 laps!
At the end of the day it doesn't matter what a drivers personality is like, it's what they do that counts. :y

Oh yes, as for BTCC, love him or hate him, Plato is one the best. I watched it last night and thought he was brilliant. Let's face it, incidents like that happen frequently in BTCC and ALL the drivers are guilty of the odd misdemeanor and a bit of gamesmanship at times. ::)
you will find most of the adjustment is made by computer from the pit lane not by the driver ;D
Title: Re: BTCC
Post by: ngrainqey on 20 April 2012, 17:24:55
just to make a point, didnt we see a mere mortal try and drive an F1 car on a popular tv program called "top sprocket gear" :P
and did we not see that he could basically not drive the car?

its bad enough at indoor go-karting when all the regulars go and i dont think they're formula 1 drivers are they?

anyway, point made...i'll observe once more  :y