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Title: Large screen TV question
Post by: Mr Skrunts on 18 July 2012, 20:03:58
Am after a larger TV for gaming with, allready have a Plasma 46" so fancy a LED 60"

Seen a sharp model that fits the bill, mixed reviews about it,  then a certain AV forum the members suggest the Plasma's are better for gaming.

Then there are mixed feelings about backlit and edge lit screens.

For me it is so confusing, especially as I just found this regards the Sharp 60"

LED backlit Television type
    Edge LED technology
    60 inches television size
  1080p HD Ready

Is it me, is that a contradiction, one type verse the other, ?

Open to ideas, I was warned of the high energy use when I bought my Plasma, it has made a differnce to the leccy bill, but then also did the leccy price hikes.

Seems Plasma running costs have come down.

Would appreciate anyones views regards Panasonic v Samsung v LG v Others, sound not a major issue as I have a yamaha RDS 9.1 amp that will be setup with it.
 
Title: Re: Large screen TV question
Post by: ZacVegas on 18 July 2012, 20:30:18
I was told that plasma is better for gaming as the screen refresh rate is quicker than LED and LCD screens :y
Title: Re: Large screen TV question
Post by: bigboykarl on 18 July 2012, 20:38:13
i had a lg50pc1d.....it was plasma and ran in 1080i was quite sharp and ran very well....when it went bang last year i got a toshiba led back lit 42 inch that runs full 1080p and is a great improvement...it has lovely colour and is spot on for gaming...i use it for ps3....
   richer sounds are quite good(although i did buy the toshiba in the best buy closing down sale) and had a lovely 60 inch panasonic which i was very tempted with ..just that my living room in the house i moved to last july was smaller and the 50 inch lg looked too big... :'(
Title: Re: Large screen TV question
Post by: Bixy1 on 18 July 2012, 21:12:56
I'm too old for gaming, but as far as films go, a 70inch plasma, Sony 5.1 Blu-ray surround DVD player = heaven!!!

But I'd settle for a 3D Panasonic . . .  8)
Title: Re: Large screen TV question
Post by: cem_devecioglu on 18 July 2012, 21:33:03
not much gaming experience here.. I'll recommend samsung es7000 or higher..  have many capabilities.. youtube, browsers,
built in camera , 3d etc etc.. have also an interesting feature, you can upgrade the cpu and mobo by an add on card so you dont have to pay for panel again.. :y   however, for size 60 you must be really far from tv or you may have problems with eyes and head turning :-\
Title: Re: Large screen TV question
Post by: cam2502 on 18 July 2012, 22:00:50
I have a 51inch Samsung plasma. 3d as well. Play the ps3 on it, never had any problems with it, fantastic sound and picture :y
Title: Re: Large screen TV question
Post by: blackviper90210 on 19 July 2012, 07:37:32
I've just changed from a 42" Plasma to a 47" LED.

I use my xbox360 a fair amount, but must say the picture is much sharper and clearer on the LED than the plasma!!

Very pleased :y

Title: Re: Large screen TV question
Post by: Plomien on 19 July 2012, 08:08:42
If you can afford it go for OLED its an even better clarity again
Title: Re: Large screen TV question
Post by: blackviper90210 on 19 July 2012, 08:20:21
Do shop around too. I went to a few high street stores, one of them that sounds like an indian dish, had the tv I decided on.  No move on the price. Went across the road to another electrical retailer directly opposite who had the same tv, but £78 cheaper :o

So back to the 1st store showed them that it was cheaper across the road and they immediately price matched..... Thank you very much :y
Title: Re: Large screen TV question
Post by: aaronjb on 19 July 2012, 08:37:47
There are two Sharp models of the Aquos (I presume that's what you're looking at) - from memory the 6xx series are edge lit, the 8xx series are full back-lit LED panels, so go for the latter (more expensive, naturally).

Plasma has a better response time than even the best LED panel and still has much better black levels.

LED won't suffer 'screen burn' if you game for extended periods like a Plasma can (although if you run the Plasma in properly it's much less likely).

For me, 60"+ I'd probably go LED due to the enormous price difference .. much as it pains me and I really want another Plasma, the Aquos 70" LED might be my next purchase to go with the Arcam AV9 & P7.
Title: Re: Large screen TV question
Post by: cam2502 on 19 July 2012, 09:25:12
Do shop around too. I went to a few high street stores, one of them that sounds like an indian dish, had the tv I decided on.  No move on the price. Went across the road to another electrical retailer directly opposite who had the same tv, but £78 cheaper :o

So back to the 1st store showed them that it was cheaper across the road and they immediately price matched..... Thank you very much :y






Think I would've bought it from the store that was the cheapest in the 1st place instead of going back and giving commission to the guy who wouldn't budge on price. :-\
Title: Re: Large screen TV question
Post by: Plomien on 19 July 2012, 09:26:25
http://www.amazon.co.uk/Optoma-HD300X-Digital-Processing-Projector/dp/tech-data/B005N97EES/ref=de_a_smtd
or get something like this :D
Title: Re: Large screen TV question
Post by: blackviper90210 on 19 July 2012, 09:48:16
Do shop around too. I went to a few high street stores, one of them that sounds like an indian dish, had the tv I decided on.  No move on the price. Went across the road to another electrical retailer directly opposite who had the same tv, but £78 cheaper :o

So back to the 1st store showed them that it was cheaper across the road and they immediately price matched..... Thank you very much :y






Think I would've bought it from the store that was the cheapest in the 1st place instead of going back and giving commission to the guy who wouldn't budge on price. :-\

Good point, but at the time he did offer advice, didn't waffle and never tried to hard sell.  He was a "mature" guy and was nice to chat to. The other shop, they were a younger but nice bunch, yet seemed to busy chatting with each other than helping customers!

Title: Re: Large screen TV question
Post by: Mr Skrunts on 19 July 2012, 11:02:53
There are two Sharp models of the Aquos (I presume that's what you're looking at) - from memory the 6xx series are edge lit, the 8xx series are full back-lit LED panels, so go for the latter (more expensive, naturally).

Plasma has a better response time than even the best LED panel and still has much better black levels.

LED won't suffer 'screen burn' if you game for extended periods like a Plasma can (although if you run the Plasma in properly it's much less likely).

For me, 60"+ I'd probably go LED due to the enormous price difference .. much as it pains me and I really want another Plasma, the Aquos 70" LED might be my next purchase to go with the Arcam AV9 & P7.

The Sharp LC60LE636E brings affordable large screen entertainment to your living room thanks to a stunning 1080p screen which has edge LED backlighting. This not only makes the screen super-thin but also provides a brighter picture with greatly enhanced contrast. You’ll also be able to enjoy great online content too, connecting via the supplied Wi-Fi USB dongle.

Its contemporary slim design is made possible by its edge LED backlight. LED enables precise brightness and you’ll notice greater contrast. LEDs are also much more power efficient than conventional sets.

100Hz technology means the LC60LE636E will recreates images with twice the number of frames as conventional TVs, so fast moving scenes will be smooth and seamless.

Am still confused regards the edge lit and back light bits.  The other thing is the 100Hz refresh.  That is starting to get completely comfusing as well. As there are 600 Hz and 800CMI and other abrviations on various TV brands.
Title: Re: Large screen TV question
Post by: Mr Skrunts on 19 July 2012, 11:04:13
If you can afford it go for OLED its an even better clarity again

Think I would need to rob a bank first, and that is if they do a 55"+ OLED TV :P
Title: Re: Large screen TV question
Post by: Mr Skrunts on 19 July 2012, 11:11:07
Do shop around too. I went to a few high street stores, one of them that sounds like an indian dish, had the tv I decided on.  No move on the price. Went across the road to another electrical retailer directly opposite who had the same tv, but £78 cheaper :o

So back to the 1st store showed them that it was cheaper across the road and they immediately price matched..... Thank you very much :y

A local place to me is Crampton and Moore, plus the usual Curry's and Comet Outlets.  Google is brilliant for price checking, pricerunner and other price comparison sites come up trumps.

Crampton and Moore have realised that offering a 5 year warranty on most of thier TV's is a good way to make sales.  John Lewis offer a 5 Year Warranty on all TV's and will price match any internet offer on a like for like basis, when I asked if that worked the same way with warranties  I was told no, they price match and give a 5 year warrany anyway.Also hear good reports that TV's from JL often turn up next day.  :y :y
Title: Re: Large screen TV question
Post by: aaronjb on 19 July 2012, 12:30:57
Am still confused regards the edge lit and back light bits.  The other thing is the 100Hz refresh.  That is starting to get completely comfusing as well. As there are 600 Hz and 800CMI and other abrviations on various TV brands.

AFAIK the edge lit (6xx) uses LEDs around the edge firing toward the centre of the screen, parallel to the glass, and essentially prisms to bend the light so it comes out of the front of the screen. Basically it's the LED version of a standard cold cathode lit LCD screen.

The 'full back' LED panels use a whole second 'panel' of backlight to shine directly out through the LCD matrix; some sets use this to switch off areas of the backlight entirely when they detect dark scenes to improve dynamic contrast and black levels, though I don't think the Aquos does that (and, indeed, on sets that do this most people end up turning it off as it has some annoying side effects like halos and dark patches).

That's my understanding, anyway..

The refresh rate stuff .. I'm not sure about, to be honest. You're right that it's an entirely confusing minefield - especially when, as you've found, manufacturers don't agree on what 'refresh rate' is!