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Chat Area => General Car Chat => Topic started by: cam2502 on 27 September 2012, 15:31:59
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If its an auto do you only ever use the D? Or do you play around with the 1 2 3? Do you use the sports mode much?
Past couple of days I've had the MV6 in sports mode everywhere I go, as usually it's just in D. What a difference, my grin is beginning to attract some strange looks ;D
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99% of time just leave it in D and amble along at a gentle pace. :)
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Flip between sport mode and normal quite a lot. Just to wake the box up, mostly for engine braking though, then use the lever to go down to 3,2,1 etc on down hills if needed.
As its September I am behaving, not long now. :)
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Auto's are for fat old people who smell of wee :-X :-X :-X :D :D :D
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Logs off and starts running ;D ;D ;D
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Was going to phrase that along the lines of 'what's all this D 321 nonsense' ;D
123 if playing, 125 if not, although I do seem to be making alot of use of 4th at the minute, it keeps the revs just right for burying the loud pedal at 35-40ish :-X
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Just leave in D in the 3.2, after almost a year, yet to press the sport button ;D
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If wanting to play .. select "2" and "s" .... plant right foot .....then hang on tight .. but DO NOT look at instantaneous fuel consumption ............
Omega is much quicker and far more nimble than many folks think ..... :)
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I find Sport mode to be a complete waste of time. Removes a lot of the refinement of the shifts and still isn't ever in the gear you want it to be in when you want it to be there. ::)
So, mine stays in "D" unless I want the engine braking, whereby I'll hold a lower gear using the stick.
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I find Sport mode to be a complete waste of time. Removes a lot of the refinement of the shifts and still isn't ever in the gear you want it to be in when you want it to be there. ::)
So, mine stays in "D" unless I want the engine braking, whereby I'll hold a lower gear using the stick.
Im finding that it's a LOT more responsive in sport mode at all speeds rather than just the "D". Which is probably the point of sport ;D, just that in the 4 omegas I've owned I've not really used it. I'm sure the fuel will hit me hard soon, but it is so much more fun ;D
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When was using the FL ( auto) - tended to amble along ( similar to driving works van!- but a bit quicker)
now using MFL ( manual) tend to play - its nice to unstick the rear wheels ocassionally! but uses more juice - side effect is as an earlier post - bigger grin!
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I'm very light footed, always in D until i hit the speed humps where i live, then its in 2 to make use of engine braking. Had to use snow mode last winter quite a few times, didn't want the rear end getting too happy ::). Sport mode only used when smoking some chav at the lights with his little 1.2 clit thinking hes all big and butch, wipes the smile straight off their faces every time :D
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I find Sport mode to be a complete waste of time. Removes a lot of the refinement of the shifts and still isn't ever in the gear you want it to be in when you want it to be there. ::)
So, mine stays in "D" unless I want the engine braking, whereby I'll hold a lower gear using the stick.
Im finding that it's a LOT more responsive in sport mode at all speeds rather than just the "D". Which is probably the point of sport ;D, just that in the 4 omegas I've owned I've not really used it. I'm sure the fuel will hit me hard soon, but it is so much more fun ;D
Sport mode does little more than just letting it rev to red line and holding gears longer
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in D. Try not to go above 2k revs round town due to liking money to go on other things other than fuel.
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Sport mode:
I find I rarely use it on the Silver Bullet (3.0l), as the gearbox software is far better. The Elite (3.2), it needs sports mode if progress needs to be made. The 3.2 TCM software is quite poor compared to the earlier ones.
3.0l TCM is GS820, running V9
3.2l TCM is GS821, running V8
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I drive far too slowly. Probably even slower than tunnie. Sometimes I wonder why I own this car and not a 1.4 Civic
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SMD, we must think alike. When TB was running tests on my car and i took him on a test drive I'm fairly sure he was ready to kill me for driving like a granma ha ha. Right up until the point he told me to get out so he could drive Hahahahahahahaha
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depends on my mood,if its slightly damp and i want to play,tc off and 1st,and floor it,and yes i do smoke them as done at a certain meet in mk few months ago,nice to drive around in 1st for town driving,even the it drinks fuel,if on the motorway,usally left in d unless going to over take and then usally flick sport mode on and drop it to 3rd ;D ;D
if being sensible its left in d all the time ;)
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If wanting to play .. select "2" and "s" .... plant right foot .....then hang on tight .. but DO NOT look at instantaneous fuel consumption ............
Omega is much quicker and far more nimble than many folks think ..... :)
Interesting , will have to try that one . Mine is usually in D with sport mode petrol guzzler button rarely selected :)
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So even with the 3.2, you find you still have to use sport? :-\ I'd have thought it would be quick enough without it? :y
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So even with the 3.2, you find you still have to use sport? :-\ I'd have thought it would be quick enough without it? :y
You never "have" to use it .. it is an option.. :)
Sport button just does the same as kickdown switch, but more permanently, it holds the revs in each gear right to the limiter... with kickdown if you then ease off it will change up, with "S" it remains in the lower gear much longer ... which when "playing" in the twisties is beneficial as the sudden change of gear on easing off the throttle can be a tad hairy at times if kickdown is in control .... "S" prevents this.
"2" + "s" gives you, effectively a 2 geared car ... first to around 50, second to around 75, so the power goes down very quickly as minimum gear changes are involved, which is very different to being in "D"
The 3.2 is quick, but it is IMHO, more responsive under "S" as it is usually already in a lower gear.
All done at the expense of economy however !!! but the smile factor is good ... :)
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SMD, we must think alike. When TB was running tests on my car and i took him on a test drive I'm fairly sure he was ready to kill me for driving like a granma ha ha. Right up until the point he told me to get out so he could drive Hahahahahahahaha
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All the omega's ive seen are being driven around here very sedately like there's a fuel shortage :-\
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Mine is a manual and depends on where I'm driving or how I'm feeling, I tend to drive sedately around town and built up areas but I often go down the country lanes where I open it up.
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Yep ; just bimble along with a quick blast now and again . i think my carlton gsi 24v is more of a drivers car for fun :y but not as comfy as the elite ;)
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Too hard and too fast :-X ::)
But then running on LPG you don't think about fuel costs so much ;)
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in D. Try not to go above 2k revs round town due to liking money to go on other things other than fuel.
I reckon driving around at under 2,000 r.p.m. is bad for an engine, especially a v6.
Also, from my limited experience with automatic Omegas there is no point to having the 'S' button, unless you prefer the slight engine braking effect that it achieves, much easier just to keep your right foot firmly planted and wait for the box to catch up...
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why would it be bad? I thought the less strain you put on any engine the better surely? Just thinkin out loud :-)
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So even with the 3.2, you find you still have to use sport? :-\ I'd have thought it would be quick enough without it? :y
Now you're just being silly ;D
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in D. Try not to go above 2k revs round town due to liking money to go on other things other than fuel.
I reckon driving around at under 2,000 r.p.m. is bad for an engine, especially a v6.
Explain please ??? :-\
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in D. Try not to go above 2k revs round town due to liking money to go on other things other than fuel.
I reckon driving around at under 2,000 r.p.m. is bad for an engine, especially a v6.
Also, from my limited experience with automatic Omegas there is no point to having the 'S' button, unless you prefer the slight engine braking effect that it achieves, much easier just to keep your right foot firmly planted and wait for the box to catch up...
Nah, it's smarter than that. Although not by much. ;D
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in D. Try not to go above 2k revs round town due to liking money to go on other things other than fuel.
I reckon driving around at under 2,000 r.p.m. is bad for an engine, especially a v6.
Explain please ??? :-\
Something to do with noise it makes as you accelerate through 4k 8) if the car makes you smile, you're more likely to look after it ::)
Seriously though, if you actually use the potential, it stops things like the breathers and oilways from clogging up :y
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Seeing as mine lives near the redline most of the time, I'd love Brikhead's 2k theory to be true, but sadly, in reality, I suspect its not ;)
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as long as your service schedule reflects the driving you do i would think that keeping the revs low is a plus for the engine. The biggest thing for your engine apart from ensuring you dont sever fuel lines like me is very very regular oil changes and breather cleans. And the bonus is its easy to do even for a complete novice. I personally think some level of maintenance should be mandatory as part of the driving test.
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Moderation ::) using 99% of the potential 99% of the time will probably be over doing it :-\,
However, Tunnie stylee will potentially see that one clogged up before it gets to its next cambelt change :-\
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Moderation ::) using 99% of the potential 99% of the time will probably be over doing it :-\,
However, Tunnie stylee will potentially see that one clogged up before it gets to its next cambelt change :-\
Oh dear :-[ :-[ ::) ::) :D :D
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Driving hard constantly is obviously not good for the engine, also driving with the revs constantly low is also not so good for the engine as I was told when in college, it is good to open the engine up to its full potential every so often.
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normally calm and silent.. unless someone tailgates me.. (fuel is 1.65 here)
last week some bmw push me .. I turned a very crowded and narrow street corner with full throttle (and reasonable clutch) sideways.. never done this to my tyres :-\ (except rental cars)
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Mine lives around the lower end of the rev range most of the time and every time I clean the breathers,they are almost as clean & clear as the last time they were done. ;)
Its a big semi luxury barge.Dont see the point of trying to convince myself its a TVR/Lotus Elise or similar tbh.
If I wanted to drive seriously quickly I wouldnt drive an Omega.Just my opinion of course.
I would be interested to see proper engineering info/evidence from someone like Kevin Wood or MarkDTM on this theory about constantly driving at low revs not eing good for the engine,as I (with little real knowledge) cant see any logic to it. :-\
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Agreed .. a good blast every so often will often do a lot of good.....
Increased oil pressure will clear out oilways that may be starting to crud up
Increased oil pressure will exercise the pressure relieve valve and ensure it is ready for when it is needed
Higher exhaust temperatures will clean the cat (and on DBW cars prevent 0420/0430 codes :) )
Increased cylinder temps will clean the plugs and remove fouling
How often has advice been given that on a borderline emissions MOT to "drive it like you stole it" or "an italian tune up" before trying again ??
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There also used to be a theory that a a machine running at almost constant RPM will settle into a wear pattern that does not use the design range, changing RPM ensures the wear is more evenly spread .. a bit like lane one of the motorway having the grooves as most of the traffic is always there .. the other lanes are less used so have less wear, if all 3 lanes were used the wear would be even across them
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Mine lives around the lower end of the rev range most of the time and every time I clean the breathers,they are almost as clean & clear as the last time they were done. ;)
Its a big semi luxury barge.Dont see the point of trying to convince myself its a TVR/Lotus Elise or similar tbh.
If I wanted to drive seriously quickly I wouldnt drive an Omega.Just my opinion of course.
I would be interested to see proper engineering info/evidence from soeone like Kevin Wood or MarkDTM on this theory about constantly driving at low revs not eing good for the engine,as I (with little real knowledge) cant see any logic to it. :-\
+1.
Although I have to say I agree with Taxi that, with pretty much anything, moderation is key. :y
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Mine lives around the lower end of the rev range most of the time and every time I clean the breathers,they are almost as clean & clear as the last time they were done. ;)
Its a big semi luxury barge.Dont see the point of trying to convince myself its a TVR/Lotus Elise or similar tbh.
If I wanted to drive seriously quickly I wouldnt drive an Omega.Just my opinion of course.
I would be interested to see proper engineering info/evidence from soeone like Kevin Wood or MarkDTM on this theory about constantly driving at low revs not eing good for the engine,as I (with little real knowledge) cant see any logic to it. :-\
+1.
Although I have to say I agree with Taxi that, with pretty much anything, moderation is key. :y
Including moderation ? :D ;D
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why would it be bad? I thought the less strain you put on any engine the better surely? Just thinkin out loud :-)
Engines are designed to run at high r.p.m. not allowing them to operate as they were designed can cause problems.
Have you never heard of an Italian tune up? It cures allsorts of problems from failed M.O.T. emissions to sticky timing chain tensioners. :y
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How often has advice been given that on a borderline emissions MOT to "drive it like you stole it" or "an italian tune up" before trying again ??
Indeed, modern cars WILL break down if not driven above a certain R.P.M. (a lot more than 2k), due to d.p.f. regen...
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why would it be bad? I thought the less strain you put on any engine the better surely? Just thinkin out loud :-)
Engines are designed to run at high r.p.m. not allowing them to operate as they were designed can cause problems.
Have you never heard of an Italian tune up? It cures allsorts of problems from failed M.O.T. emissions to sticky timing chain tensioners. :y
Very true, but shouldn't these things be addressed if you're on a strict service routine?
ps, i know how these debates can escalate on here ;D......i'm not arguing just trying to understand :y
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Sport mode does little more than just letting it rev to red line and holding gears longer
What else would you suggest for a 'sportier' drive? That's exactly whay you want it to do, and exactly what you'd do in a 3 pedal car if you want to drive faster ??? ???
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How often has advice been given that on a borderline emissions MOT to "drive it like you stole it" or "an italian tune up" before trying again ??
Indeed, modern cars WILL break down if not driven above a certain R.P.M. (a lot more than 2k), due to d.p.f. regen...
Sometime these DPF are hard to regenerate as you have to stay above a constant speed to do it which is not always easy on our roads that are often riddled with roundabouts, we rarely see DPF problems on cars that are driven through varying speeds rather than low engine speeds.
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ps, i know how these debates can escalate on here ;D......i'm not arguing just trying to understand :y
Shall we just cut to the chase and do 'fisticuffs' now? LOL!! ;D
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Yep ; just bimble along with a quick blast now and again . i think my carlton gsi 24v is more of a drivers car for fun :y but not as comfy as the elite ;)
you kept that quiet! ??? ???
Didn't you say you lived at Sunny Bank? ::) ::) I might need to call round to check it! ;D ;D ;D
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Sport mode does little more than just letting it rev to red line and holding gears longer
What else would you suggest for a 'sportier' drive? That's exactly whay you want it to do, and exactly what you'd do in a 3 pedal car if you want to drive faster ??? ???
autos can never be driven like a manual.. because you cant arrange clutch-throttle balance.. you will end up on a tree..
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why would it be bad? I thought the less strain you put on any engine the better surely? Just thinkin out loud :-)
Engines are designed to run at high r.p.m. not allowing them to operate as they were designed can cause problems.
Have you never heard of an Italian tune up? It cures allsorts of problems from failed M.O.T. emissions to sticky timing chain tensioners. :y
Very true, but shouldn't these things be addressed if you're on a strict service routine?
ps, i know how these debates can escalate on here ;D......i'm not arguing just trying to understand :y
Regular servicing is only half the story :y for example, if your V6 Omega never goes above 2k, then the multirams would never move, consequently they could seize :-\ Ok an extreme example, but a valid one, same for air conditioning systems...
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How often has advice been given that on a borderline emissions MOT to "drive it like you stole it" or "an italian tune up" before trying again ??
Indeed, modern cars WILL break down if not driven above a certain R.P.M. (a lot more than 2k), due to d.p.f. regen...
Which you won't find on petrol cars ::)
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ps, i know how these debates can escalate on here ;D......i'm not arguing just trying to understand :y
Shall we just cut to the chase and do 'fisticuffs' now? LOL!! ;D
Hahaha i'm a lover not a fighter..... well, that's my excuse for being a complete pussy ;D ;D ;D ;D
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why would it be bad? I thought the less strain you put on any engine the better surely? Just thinkin out loud :-)
Engines are designed to run at high r.p.m. not allowing them to operate as they were designed can cause problems.
Have you never heard of an Italian tune up? It cures allsorts of problems from failed M.O.T. emissions to sticky timing chain tensioners. :y
Very true, but shouldn't these things be addressed if you're on a strict service routine?
ps, i know how these debates can escalate on here ;D......i'm not arguing just trying to understand :y
Regular servicing is only half the story :y for example, if your V6 Omega never goes above 2k, then the multirams would never move, consequently they could seize :-\ Ok an extreme example, but a valid one, same for air conditioning systems...
very true, but i did say i try and drive like that around town :y luckily i do get some motorway blasts...... where i try not to exceed......... hahaha only kiddin' :y
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Which you won't find on petrol cars ::)
Really!? No diesel particulate filter on a petrol powered car, how strange.
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Mine lives around the lower end of the rev range most of the time and every time I clean the breathers,they are almost as clean & clear as the last time they were done. ;)
Its a big semi luxury barge.Dont see the point of trying to convince myself its a TVR/Lotus Elise or similar tbh.
If I wanted to drive seriously quickly I wouldnt drive an Omega.Just my opinion of course.
I would be interested to see proper engineering info/evidence from someone like Kevin Wood or MarkDTM on this theory about constantly driving at low revs not eing good for the engine,as I (with little real knowledge) cant see any logic to it. :-\
;D
Am thinking of a tugboat on the sea ::) ;D
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Agreed .. a good blast every so often will often do a lot of good..... ....
Can I quote you when I use my Omega on a week end to go to work? An empty motorway at 7 am on a Sunday morning is soooooooooooo tempting! ::) ::) ::) ::) ;)
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Agreed .. a good blast every so often will often do a lot of good..... ....
Can I quote you when I use my Omega on a week end to go to work? An empty motorway at 7 am on a Sunday morning is soooooooooooo tempting! ::) ::) ::) ::) ;)
...ffs be quiet B! everyone will want a go. ;D
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Agreed .. a good blast every so often will often do a lot of good..... ....
Can I quote you when I use my Omega on a week end to go to work? An empty motorway at 7 am on a Sunday morning is soooooooooooo tempting! ::) ::) ::) ::) ;)
...ffs be quiet B! everyone will want a go. ;D
Could just use the Peage and a Porsche driver as bait :-X ::)
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Sport mode does little more than just letting it rev to red line and holding gears longer
What else would you suggest for a 'sportier' drive? That's exactly whay you want it to do, and exactly what you'd do in a 3 pedal car if you want to drive faster ??? ???
In reply to "It feels much more responsive" - Its just letting it rev longer. It's no more responsive.
Never said that's not what you want, just pointing out it does not increase the "response" of the engine.
always looking for a dig :-\
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in D. Try not to go above 2k revs round town due to liking money to go on other things other than fuel.
I reckon driving around at under 2,000 r.p.m. is bad for an engine, especially a v6.
Explain please ??? :-\
I don't think this is new science, 30 odd years ago a lady worked for my Dad and had a Viva HA Estate as a company car, she lived and mostly worked in Darlington so never drove above 30 mpg and remember we are talking old skool mechanics........ :) I remember the car was said to be not running properly, rough and poor starting, my dad duly booked it into the garage to be sorted............they did, and the lady was very pleased :y............The garage did some investigating and simply took the car for a 'thrash' down the motorway.............Now known and the 'Italian Tune Up' simple mechanical understanding should be enough to evidence this, I would have thought ::) In 1979 I collected a new MK2 Transit, one of the first, I read that it said somewhere in the book that if you kept to a certain speed the engine would get used to it, I was young and thrashed the arse of it from Wolverhampton to Durham..... ;D ;D ;D
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In reply to "It feels much more responsive" - Its just letting it rev longer. It's no more responsive.
Never said that's not what you want, just pointing out it does not increase the "response" of the engine.
always looking for a dig :-\
Not looking for a dig at all. If you raise the revs to nearer the 'power band' then you're increasing the responsiveness of the car/engine.
If in a manual car, & you're driving at 30mph in top gear with 900rpm (?) and hit the throttle, it'l never respond, but it you've raised the revs by being in a lower gear, then you've made the car/engine more responsive. That's what the S button does ....
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Agreed .. a good blast every so often will often do a lot of good..... ....
Can I quote you when I use my Omega on a week end to go to work? An empty motorway at 7 am on a Sunday morning is soooooooooooo tempting! ::) ::) ::) ::) ;)
...ffs be quiet B! everyone will want a go. ;D
There's a 70mph limit on a motorway ...... ::) ::) ::) ::) ::)
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In reply to "It feels much more responsive" - Its just letting it rev longer. It's no more responsive.
Never said that's not what you want, just pointing out it does not increase the "response" of the engine.
always looking for a dig :-\
Not looking for a dig at all. If you raise the revs to nearer the 'power band' then you're increasing the responsiveness of the car/engine.
If in a manual car, & you're driving at 30mph in top gear with 900rpm (?) and hit the throttle, it'l never respond, but it you've raised the revs by being in a lower gear, then you've made the car/engine more responsive. That's what the S button does ....
Manually shifting 1-2-3 also does same, that would achieve more response. But as Kevin says, I find it a bit pointless
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I always wondered what that sign meant ::)
Agreed .. a good blast every so often will often do a lot of good..... ....
Can I quote you when I use my Omega on a week end to go to work? An empty motorway at 7 am on a Sunday morning is soooooooooooo tempting! ::) ::) ::) ::) ;)
Just make sure you've plenty of fuel ::) that type of behaviour when the little orange light is on causes all sorts of embarrassment :-[ apparently flat out the 3.2 does about 8mpg :-X
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In reply to "It feels much more responsive" - Its just letting it rev longer. It's no more responsive.
Never said that's not what you want, just pointing out it does not increase the "response" of the engine.
always looking for a dig :-\
Not looking for a dig at all. If you raise the revs to nearer the 'power band' then you're increasing the responsiveness of the car/engine.
If in a manual car, & you're driving at 30mph in top gear with 900rpm (?) and hit the throttle, it'l never respond, but it you've raised the revs by being in a lower gear, then you've made the car/engine more responsive. That's what the S button does ....
Andy, ime you will never get a 3 pedal driver to understand that using the gears appropriately and sports on an Auto, in the proper hands will make it more responsive and faster than any manual....put it in 3 with sports and challenge them on a twisty road........and who will be the most relaxed at the end of a 10 mile stretch........ :y :y
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Just make sure you've plenty of fuel ::) that type of behaviour when the little orange light is on causes all sorts of embarrassment :-[
Just ignore the light, it'll start flashing eventually but you can ignore that for quite a while too, also the 'range' feature tells lies...
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Manually shifting 1-2-3 also does same, that would achieve more response. .....
Buy a manual then ;) ;) ;) ;) :y
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Andy, ime you will never get a 3 pedal driver to understand that using the gears appropriately and sports on an Auto, in the proper hands will make it more responsive and faster than any manual....put it in 3 with sports and challenge them on a twisty road........and who will be the most relaxed at the end of a 10 mile stretch........ :y :y
......... but the manual driver would've been 'in control' ::) ::) ::) ::) ;D ;)
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Just make sure you've plenty of fuel ::) that type of behaviour when the little orange light is on causes all sorts of embarrassment :-[
Just ignore the light, it'll start flashing eventually but you can ignore that for quite a while too, also the 'range' feature tells lies...
At the start of the private driveway the light was already on, car cut out after 3 miles flat out and coasted for another :-[ those old bomber bases are quite large ::) no MID on that car either :y
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Manually shifting 1-2-3 also does same, that would achieve more response. .....
Buy a manual then ;) ;) ;) ;) :y
Already got one ;)
I also never manually shift or use S button in 3.2.
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I also never ....... use S button in 3.2.
So HTF can you have an opinion of what the S does! ??? ??? ??? ??? ??? ??? ??? ??? ???
Press the bugger .......... then comment on what it does! :P :P :P :P :P :P
wanders off to find a brick wall ....................
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Agreed .. a good blast every so often will often do a lot of good..... ....
Can I quote you when I use my Omega on a week end to go to work? An empty motorway at 7 am on a Sunday morning is soooooooooooo tempting! ::) ::) ::) ::) ;)
...ffs be quiet B! everyone will want a go. ;D
There's a 70mph limit on a motorway ...... ::) ::) ::) ::) ::)
..... And three lanes ...... ::) ::) ::) ::) ::)
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Agreed .. a good blast every so often will often do a lot of good..... ....
Can I quote you when I use my Omega on a week end to go to work? An empty motorway at 7 am on a Sunday morning is soooooooooooo tempting! ::) ::) ::) ::) ;)
...ffs be quiet B! everyone will want a go. ;D
There's a 70mph limit on a motorway ...... ::) ::) ::) ::) ::)
..... And three lanes ...... ::) ::) ::) ::) ::)
You only usually need one on a Sunday morning ;) ;) ;) ;)
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I suspect the sport button doesn't do much below about 4k, so it might as well be disconnected in that car ::)
Andy if you're only doing seventy then one lane is more than adequate :y I suspect that at much over a ton two lanes is a bit more comfortable :-\
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Andy if you're only doing seventy then one lane is more than adequate :y
Of course ;)
I suspect that at much over a ton two lanes is a bit more comfortable :-\
I'll let you know if I ever stray into 3 figure mph ::) ::) ::) ::)
It is a public forum ..................... someone might be watching ::) ::)
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It does the same thing as the kick down switch. Just means you can keep the revs up on a part throttle.
So as you can probably guess, TB and Tunnie won't need to use it much. :P
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I also never ....... use S button in 3.2.
So HTF can you have an opinion of what the S does! ??? ??? ??? ??? ??? ??? ??? ??? ???
Press the bugger .......... then comment on what it does! :P :P :P :P :P :P
wanders off to find a brick wall ....................
FatherTs 2.2 Auto, MotherTs 3.0 Auto, did I mention not using it in those? Which i drive often. Did I only say that I don't use it in my 3.2 ::)
As always Andy, looking for a dig & stirring for an argument. I pity that wall.
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It does the same thing as the kick down switch. Just means you can keep the revs up on a part throttle.
So as you can probably guess, TB and Tunnie won't need to use it much. :P
my point entirely ;D
Andy, I have a friend who lives in Frankfurt :y 3 figure speeds in the UK are in km/h :y
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Agreed .. a good blast every so often will often do a lot of good..... ....
Can I quote you when I use my Omega on a week end to go to work? An empty motorway at 7 am on a Sunday morning is soooooooooooo tempting! ::) ::) ::) ::) ;)
...ffs be quiet B! everyone will want a go. ;D
Agreed .. a good blast every so often will often do a lot of good..... ....
Can I quote you when I use my Omega on a week end to go to work? An empty motorway at 7 am on a Sunday morning is soooooooooooo tempting! ::) ::) ::) ::) ;)
...ffs be quiet B! everyone will want a go. ;D
There's a 70mph limit on a motorway ...... ::) ::) ::) ::) ::)
..... And three lanes ...... ::) ::) ::) ::) ::)
You only usually need one on a Sunday morning ;) ;) ;) ;)
There's a 70mph limit on a motorway ...... ::) ::) ::) ::) ::)
..... And three lanes ...... ::) ::) ::) ::) ::)
You only usually need one on a Sunday morning ;) ;) ;) ;)
if you get up a bit earlier in the week, you can have a lie in on Sunday. :)
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.... 3 figure speeds in the UK are in km/h :y
Oh! ...... I knew that! ;D ;D
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if you get up a bit earlier in the week, you can have a lie in on Sunday. :)
I'll quote you when I fail to turn in when I should be working a Sunday. 2 Sundays in, followed by the next 2 off ..... that's my shift pattern :y
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if you get up a bit earlier in the week, you can have a lie in on Sunday. :)
I'll quote you when I fail to turn in when I should be working a Sunday. 2 Sundays in, followed by the next 2 off ..... that's my shift pattern :y
I never said anything about work. ;)
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if you get up a bit earlier in the week, you can have a lie in on Sunday. :)
I'll quote you when I fail to turn in when I should be working a Sunday. 2 Sundays in, followed by the next 2 off ..... that's my shift pattern :y
I never said anything about work. ;)
I only ever see 7 am on a Sunday if I've got to go to work ::) ::) ::)
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if you get up a bit earlier in the week, you can have a lie in on Sunday. :)
I'll quote you when I fail to turn in when I should be working a Sunday. 2 Sundays in, followed by the next 2 off ..... that's my shift pattern :y
I never said anything about work. ;)
I only ever see 7 am on a Sunday if I've got to go to work ::) ::) ::)
...having said that, I'll be in at 5am this Sunday. Even better. ;)
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Agreed .. a good blast every so often will often do a lot of good..... ....
Can I quote you when I use my Omega on a week end to go to work? An empty motorway at 7 am on a Sunday morning is soooooooooooo tempting! ::) ::) ::) ::) ;)
...ffs be quiet B! everyone will want a go. ;D
There's a 70mph limit on a motorway ...... ::) ::) ::) ::) ::)
..... And three lanes ...... ::) ::) ::) ::) ::)
All of them needed for your Falken tyres....
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It does the same thing as the kick down switch. Just means you can keep the revs up on a part throttle.
So as you can probably guess, TB and Tunnie won't need to use it much. :P
There is a time for part throttle. Or at least thats what I'm told
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It does the same thing as the kick down switch. Just means you can keep the revs up on a part throttle.
So as you can probably guess, TB and Tunnie won't need to use it much. :P
There is a time for part throttle. Or at least thats what I'm told
Shortly after start up, until the engine is up to temp :P
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In reply to "It feels much more responsive" - Its just letting it rev longer. It's no more responsive.
Never said that's not what you want, just pointing out it does not increase the "response" of the engine.
always looking for a dig :-\
Not looking for a dig at all. If you raise the revs to nearer the 'power band' then you're increasing the responsiveness of the car/engine.
If in a manual car, & you're driving at 30mph in top gear with 900rpm (?) and hit the throttle, it'l never respond, but it you've raised the revs by being in a lower gear, then you've made the car/engine more responsive. That's what the S button does ....
Andy, ime you will never get a 3 pedal driver to understand that using the gears appropriately and sports on an Auto, in the proper hands will make it more responsive and faster than any manual....put it in 3 with sports and challenge them on a twisty road........and who will be the most relaxed at the end of a 10 mile stretch........ :y :y
;D ;D ;D if there is a way to communicate mr autobox, please tell him to disengage clutch set while trying to accelerate.. :y
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Cem on yours you should be able to apply the loud pedal progressively given that you have an actual, real live cable cvonnecting the pedal to the throttle ::) those of us with imaginary throttle cables can sometimes struggle with this :-\
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Cem on yours you should be able to apply the loud pedal progressively given that you have an actual, real live cable cvonnecting the pedal to the throttle ::) those of us with imaginary throttle cables can sometimes struggle with this :-\
I think thats not a problem for someone like you.. what happens if you change the ecu with a 3.0 and the throttle with a conventional old style ? (ignoring some electronic toys which will cause problem)
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In the Omega, it stays in D (R if I want to go backward, obviously ;D) and gets moderate throttle most of the time - I guess it changes up somewhere between 3-4000rpm. I tried driving back home this morning using the "no more than 2000rpm" approach - within about 2 minutes I had a car up my chuff trying to push me along; I don't know how anyone drives like that without having the patience of a saint and skin thick as an elephants..
The M3 tends to stay in flappy paddle mode as it's 'automatic' mode (it's a proper gearbox, just computer controlled) is laughable, better than the first gen SMG but still quite comical with when it decides to change down ;D, and gets similar exercise up the rev band. Unless someone decides to tailgate me like the other night, of course, then it gets much more exercise (not sure what he thought he had under the bonnet of his diesel Passat, but..)
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Those 170 2.0 tdis can really shift :-\ (when the injectors work ;D)
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It does the same thing as the kick down switch. Just means you can keep the revs up on a part throttle.
So as you can probably guess, TB and Tunnie won't need to use it much. :P
There is a time for part throttle. Or at least thats what I'm told
Shortly after start up, until the engine is up to temp :P
Yes, indeed, it is (IMHO) essential to let engine fully warm up before giving it large, and I always give it a couple of miles to get calm off before switching off - if the latter not possible, leave it running for 5 mins, just to let the cooling system do its job fully.
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(not sure what he thought he had under the bonnet of his diesel Passat, but..)
He had the added advantage of "honour". That is, under no circumstance must you be beaten by a beemer.
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mostly in D , never use 1 2 3 , used the sport button once :y
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(not sure what he thought he had under the bonnet of his diesel Passat, but..)
He had the added advantage of "honour". That is, under no circumstance must you be beaten by a beemer.
Yes, and the added burden of the requisite gesticulation, of course, given that BMW drivers don't understand conventional forms of signalling such as using indicators. ;)
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(not sure what he thought he had under the bonnet of his diesel Passat, but..)
He had the added advantage of "honour". That is, under no circumstance must you be beaten by a beemer.
Yes, and the added burden of the requisite gesticulation, of course, given that BMW drivers don't understand conventional forms of signalling such as using indicators. ;)
Amy joked the other day that I indicate more when I'm in the BMW than the Omega.. I think perhaps I'm trying to even the balance up ;D
(I should add that when the Passat appeared behind me I was doing 40mph down a 40-limit single carriageway; given how fast he appeared and welded himself to my back bumper he must have been doing at least 60-70.. a roundabout and switch to NSL dual carriageway saw him disappear backward and then come steaming past accompanied by a cloud of black soot when I hit 70 and stopped accelerating..)
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Yep. Sounds typical. The usual pent-up "my boss won't let me have a BMW/Audi/<insert-other-car-predominantly-driven-by-to$$ers>" frustration coming to the surface. Also particularly prominent in Skoda drivers, IME. ;D
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D most of the time S mode always used for overtaking (not on motorways though) as for 1,2,3 never use them. :)
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Whats 1 2 3 for ;D D and sport is enough in a superior 3.0 m/fl :P
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Whats 1 2 3 for .....
so that you can slow your car on the gearbox when going down hill with a caravan on the back ...... helps to prevent frying your brakes. :y
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Whats 1 2 3 for .....
so that you can slow your car on the gearbox when going down hill with a caravan on the back ...... helps to prevent frying your brakes. :y
That would help :-[ :-[ ;D :y
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Whats 1 2 3 for .....
so that you can slow your car on the gearbox when going down hill with a caravan on the back ...... helps to prevent frying your brakes. :y
Brakepads are a lot cheaper than gearboxes!! ;)
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Whats 1 2 3 for .....
so that you can slow your car on the gearbox when going down hill with a caravan on the back ...... helps to prevent frying your brakes. :y
Brakepads are a lot cheaper than gearboxes!! ;)
Gearboxes don't fade. ;)
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Whats 1 2 3 for .....
so that you can slow your car on the gearbox when going down hill with a caravan on the back ...... helps to prevent frying your brakes. :y
Brakepads are a lot cheaper than gearboxes!! ;)
Isnt that what they teach you these days when teaching you to drive? ::) That only works if your brakes haven't faded to the extent that you've wrapped your car around the nearest tree at the bottom of the long long decline ...... in that case, you won;t then need to fit new brake pads. :y :y :y
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Whats 1 2 3 for .....
so that you can slow your car on the gearbox when going down hill with a caravan on the back ...... helps to prevent frying your brakes. :y
Brakepads are a lot cheaper than gearboxes!! ;)
Gearboxes don't fade. ;)
Maybe not, think I'm fading though.. ;D
What the hell do you guys put in your caravans!? ??? Brake fade?? It's a family car not a fully loaded artic! ::) ;D
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Whats 1 2 3 for .....
so that you can slow your car on the gearbox when going down hill with a caravan on the back ...... helps to prevent frying your brakes. :y
Brakepads are a lot cheaper than gearboxes!! ;)
Gearboxes don't fade. ;)
Maybe not, think I'm fading though.. ;D
What the hell do you guys put in your caravans!? ??? Brake fade?? It's a family car not a fully loaded artic! ::) ;D
You've not seen what SWMBO packs ;D ;D ;D ;D
I was thinking of stretches of road where it says 'select lower gear now' :y :y
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When in 'D' the gearbox automatically holds the car back on a hill, so no need to shift.... :P
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In answer to the original q...
Depends on the mood:
Bad mood, quickly/badly >:(
Good mood, quickly/well 8)
Bored mood, quickly, in third, alot... :D
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Easy on the gas n brakes,keep up with the traffic flow and get out of the way of the all the tosser drivers that are on a mission to fulfill the need to end up on a mortuary slab while trying to take you with them. ::)
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Whats 1 2 3 for .....
so that you can slow your car on the gearbox when going down hill with a caravan on the back ...... helps to prevent frying your brakes. :y
Brakepads are a lot cheaper than gearboxes!! ;)
Gearboxes don't fade. ;)
Maybe not, think I'm fading though.. ;D
What the hell do you guys put in your caravans!? ??? Brake fade?? It's a family car not a fully loaded artic! ::) ;D
I don't need the caravan on the back to get brake fade ;) Although the new discs and pads seem to have cured that at the moment :y
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As the discs wear they seem to fade alot quicker :-X
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Whats 1 2 3 for .....
so that you can slow your car on the gearbox when going down hill with a caravan on the back ...... helps to prevent frying your brakes. :y
Brakepads are a lot cheaper than gearboxes!! ;)
Gearboxes don't fade. ;)
Or if they do, it's all too late ;D
Touch wood, it's 4 yrs since I wrecked an Omega autobox
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As the discs wear they seem to fade alot quicker :-X
And pads. That's why my pads get changed before they hit the sensor
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As the discs wear they seem to fade alot quicker :-X
And pads. That's why my pads get changed before they hit the sensor
To be fair, I got my moneys worth out of the last set of discs and pads :-X ::) So it's hardly surprising I was starting to suffer fade on a regular occurrence ::)
I don't have to drive everywhere like Miss Daisy now that the pup's bigger and used to it so it was definitely time to replace them before our trip away, especially as (like normal) I seemed to be running late on the way down :-[
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When in 'D' the gearbox automatically holds the car back on a hill, so no need to shift.... :P
Only to a degree ;)
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Whats 1 2 3 for .....
so that you can slow your car on the gearbox when going down hill with a caravan on the back ...... helps to prevent frying your brakes. :y
Brakepads are a lot cheaper than gearboxes!! ;)
Gearboxes don't fade. ;)
Or if they do, it's all too late ;D
Touch wood, it's 4 yrs since I wrecked an Omega autobox
Must be about due then :-X
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Arh yes .... slipped it into 2nd and sport :o That does tend to give you whiplash 8)
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So even with the 3.2, you find you still have to use sport? :-\ I'd have thought it would be quick enough without it? :y
You never "have" to use it .. it is an option.. :)
Sport button just does the same as kickdown switch, but more permanently, it holds the revs in each gear right to the limiter... with kickdown if you then ease off it will change up, with "S" it remains in the lower gear much longer ... which when "playing" in the twisties is beneficial as the sudden change of gear on easing off the throttle can be a tad hairy at times if kickdown is in control .... "S" prevents this.
"2" + "s" gives you, effectively a 2 geared car ... first to around 50, second to around 75, so the power goes down very quickly as minimum gear changes are involved, which is very different to being in "D"
The 3.2 is quick, but it is IMHO, more responsive under "S" as it is usually already in a lower gear.
All done at the expense of economy however !!! but the smile factor is good ... :)
Hmmm going to have to give that a try, But i'd have thought 2nd on its own will rev all the way to the top without S so what would be the gain with using 2 + S then :-\
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Sharper throttle response assuming DBW :y
Also slush box might hold on a touch longer in S :-\ assuming of course that the gearbox and engine ecus actually communicate :y