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[Manual Elite V6]

How often has advice been given that on a borderline emissions MOT to "drive it like you stole it" or "an italian tune up" before trying again ??

Indeed, modern cars WILL break down if not driven above a certain R.P.M. (a lot more than 2k), due to d.p.f. regen...

Sometime these DPF are hard to regenerate as you have to stay above a constant speed to do it which is not always easy on our roads that are often riddled with roundabouts, we rarely see DPF problems on cars that are driven through varying speeds rather than low engine speeds.

[Brikhead]

ps, i know how these debates can escalate on here  ......i'm not arguing just trying to understand 

Shall we just cut to the chase and do 'fisticuffs' now? LOL!!

[Andy B]

Yep ;  just  bimble  along  with a quick blast now and again . i think my carlton gsi 24v is more of a drivers car for fun  but not as comfy as the elite

you kept that quiet! 
Didn't you say you lived at Sunny Bank?  I might need to call round to check it! 

[cem_devecioglu]

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Sport mode does little more than just letting it rev to red line and holding gears longer

What else would you suggest for a 'sportier' drive? That's exactly whay you want it to do, and exactly what you'd do in a 3 pedal car if you want to drive faster 

autos can never be driven like a manual.. because you cant arrange clutch-throttle balance..  you will end up on a tree..

[05omegav6]

why would it be bad? I thought the less strain you put on any engine the better surely? Just thinkin out loud :-)

Engines are designed to run at high r.p.m. not allowing them to operate as they were designed can cause problems.

Have you never heard of an Italian tune up? It cures allsorts of problems from failed M.O.T. emissions to sticky timing chain tensioners.

Very true, but shouldn't these things be addressed if you're on a strict service routine?

ps, i know how these debates can escalate on here  ......i'm not arguing just trying to understand 

Regular servicing is only half the story for example, if your V6 Omega never goes above 2k, then the multirams would never move, consequently they could seize  Ok an extreme example, but a valid one, same for air conditioning systems...

[TheBoy]

How often has advice been given that on a borderline emissions MOT to "drive it like you stole it" or "an italian tune up" before trying again ??

Indeed, modern cars WILL break down if not driven above a certain R.P.M. (a lot more than 2k), due to d.p.f. regen...

Which you won't find on petrol cars

[Webby the Bear]

ps, i know how these debates can escalate on here  ......i'm not arguing just trying to understand 

Shall we just cut to the chase and do 'fisticuffs' now? LOL!!

Hahaha i'm a lover not a fighter..... well, that's my excuse for being a complete pussy 

[Webby the Bear]

why would it be bad? I thought the less strain you put on any engine the better surely? Just thinkin out loud :-)

Engines are designed to run at high r.p.m. not allowing them to operate as they were designed can cause problems.

Have you never heard of an Italian tune up? It cures allsorts of problems from failed M.O.T. emissions to sticky timing chain tensioners.

Very true, but shouldn't these things be addressed if you're on a strict service routine?

ps, i know how these debates can escalate on here  ......i'm not arguing just trying to understand 

Regular servicing is only half the story for example, if your V6 Omega never goes above 2k, then the multirams would never move, consequently they could seize  Ok an extreme example, but a valid one, same for air conditioning systems...

very true, but i did say i try and drive like that around town  luckily i do get some motorway blasts...... where i try not to exceed......... hahaha only kiddin' 

[Brikhead]

Which you won't find on petrol cars

Really!? No diesel particulate filter on a petrol powered car, how strange.

[omega3000]

Mine lives around the lower end of the rev range most of the time and every time I clean the breathers,they are almost as clean & clear as the last time they were done.
Its a big semi luxury barge.Dont see the point of trying to convince myself its a TVR/Lotus Elise or similar tbh.
If I wanted to drive seriously quickly I wouldnt drive an Omega.Just my opinion of course.
I would be interested to see proper engineering info/evidence from someone like Kevin Wood or MarkDTM on this theory about constantly driving at low revs not eing good for the engine,as I (with little real knowledge) cant see any logic to it.

 

Am thinking of a tugboat on the sea 

[Andy B]

Agreed .. a good blast every so often will often do a lot of good..... ....

Can I quote you when I use my Omega on a week end to go to work? An empty motorway at 7 am on a Sunday morning is soooooooooooo tempting!   

[feeutfo]

Agreed .. a good blast every so often will often do a lot of good..... ....

Can I quote you when I use my Omega on a week end to go to work? An empty motorway at 7 am on a Sunday morning is soooooooooooo tempting!   

...ffs be quiet B! everyone will want a go.

[Lazydocker]

Agreed .. a good blast every so often will often do a lot of good..... ....

Can I quote you when I use my Omega on a week end to go to work? An empty motorway at 7 am on a Sunday morning is soooooooooooo tempting!   

...ffs be quiet B! everyone will want a go.

Could just use the Peage and a Porsche driver as bait

[tunnie]

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Sport mode does little more than just letting it rev to red line and holding gears longer

What else would you suggest for a 'sportier' drive? That's exactly whay you want it to do, and exactly what you'd do in a 3 pedal car if you want to drive faster 

In reply to "It feels much more responsive" - Its just letting it rev longer. It's no more responsive.

Never said that's not what you want, just pointing out it does not increase the "response" of the engine.

always looking for a dig   

[Vamps]

in D. Try not to go above 2k revs round town due to liking money to go on other things other than fuel.

I reckon driving around at under 2,000 r.p.m. is bad for an engine, especially a v6.

Explain please

I don't think this is new science, 30 odd years ago a lady worked for my Dad and had a Viva HA Estate as a company car, she lived and mostly worked in Darlington so never drove above 30 mpg and remember we are talking old skool mechanics........ I remember the car was said to be not running properly, rough and poor starting, my dad duly booked it into the garage to be sorted............they did, and the lady was very pleased ............The garage did some investigating and simply took the car for a 'thrash' down the motorway.............Now known and the 'Italian Tune Up' simple mechanical understanding should be enough to evidence this, I would have thought   In 1979 I collected a new MK2 Transit, one of the first, I read that it said somewhere in the book that if you kept to a certain speed the engine would get used to it, I was young and thrashed the arse of it from Wolverhampton to Durham.....