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Title: Tyres, which make?
Post by: mga32 on 30 September 2012, 21:16:35
I had a few problems with wishbones, geo etc and my tyres are a bit buggered, I have P7s on at the moment (a bit cone shaped now!) and was thinking of replacing them. What makes do you recommend and is it worth going for second hand?
Title: Re: Tyres, which make?
Post by: TheBoy on 30 September 2012, 21:22:07
What do you want from them?
Title: Re: Tyres, which make?
Post by: 05omegav6 on 30 September 2012, 21:22:14
No to second hand, it's not worth it :y

As for the other question, I'll just grab the popcorn.....

Size/engine/driving style/budget may help to filter suggestions offered :y
Title: Re: Tyres, which make?
Post by: Andy B on 30 September 2012, 21:45:55
Isn't this Chris's expertise?  ::) :y
Title: Re: Tyres, which make?
Post by: TheBoy on 30 September 2012, 21:47:23
Isn't this Chris's expertise?  ::) :y
He'd only recommend Falkens...
Title: Re: Tyres, which make?
Post by: feeutfo on 30 September 2012, 22:29:29
Isn't this Chris's expertise?  ::) :y
He'd only recommend Falkens...
...shut it you! ;D

Falkens are shite, on omega, just in case anyone doesn't know yet.

Iirc (this is a lie, I had to check your post history) there's an outstanding question on the set up since the last work on the suspension...?

But as long as your happy with the car and the set up;

...er, well it depends what you call a good tyre?
Cheap?
Sport?
Low wear?
Quiet?
Stable?

Michelin primacy, last for silly miles if driven sensibly. Poor lateral grip.

I use conti sc3, bit noisy, good grip v wear. Fairly stable. Expensive.
TB uses sport max tt, high grip high wear high price, very planted and stable. Noisy.

Mid range Kumho ku31/39 reasonable mid range tyre. Less grippy than above.


...actually, most of those are obsolete now. :-[ ;D


Amyway, you get the idea. What sort of driver are you? Miss Daisy, Joe Bloggs or Ken Block?


Ps, second hand do have a use. If your still having set up issues for instance...?
And also if new suspension fitted, it's best to leave set up, and hence New tyres, until the new suspension has settled. At least a couple of weeks if possible.

Hopefully that's of more help than those other jokers above? ;D
Title: Re: Tyres, which make?
Post by: feeutfo on 30 September 2012, 22:29:54
Oh pants. It's a 4 pot.... :(
Title: Re: Tyres, which make?
Post by: Sir Tigger KC on 01 October 2012, 00:00:23
Oh pants. It's a 4 pot.... :(

In that case a set of part worn Falkens should do nicely?  ???  ;D
Title: Re: Tyres, which make?
Post by: bored bigyin54 on 01 October 2012, 00:23:33
I had a few problems with wishbones, geo etc and my tyres are a bit buggered, I have P7s on at the moment (a bit cone shaped now!) and was thinking of replacing them. What makes do you recommend and is it worth going for second hand?
i know i will get my head bitten of , but i allways get part worn. never had a problem with them , but its up to you :y :y and the cash you got ;D ;D
Title: Re: Tyres, which make?
Post by: dbug on 01 October 2012, 01:19:12
I had a few problems with wishbones, geo etc and my tyres are a bit buggered, I have P7s on at the moment (a bit cone shaped now!) and was thinking of replacing them. What makes do you recommend and is it worth going for second hand?
i know i will get my head bitten of , but i allways get part worn. never had a problem with them , but its up to you :y :y and the cash you got ;D ;D

Whats the tread pattern  ;) ;)
Title: Re: Tyres, which make?
Post by: Bionic on 01 October 2012, 07:36:17
Best idea would be to stick to the brand and type fitted by the manufacturer.
I tend to use either Dunlop Sport contacts or Michelin Primacy Pilots and both hold extremely well when pushed hard around corners and bends. Stay away from the comedy brands cos they will let you down one way or another. :y
Title: Re: Tyres, which make?
Post by: bored bigyin54 on 01 October 2012, 08:13:54
I had a few problems with wishbones, geo etc and my tyres are a bit buggered, I have P7s on at the moment (a bit cone shaped now!) and was thinking of replacing them. What makes do you recommend and is it worth going for second hand?
i know i will get my head bitten of , but i allways get part worn. never had a problem with them , but its up to you :y :y and the cash you got ;D ;D

Whats the tread pattern  ;) ;)
;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Tyres, which make?
Post by: TheBoy on 01 October 2012, 09:22:10
I had a few problems with wishbones, geo etc and my tyres are a bit buggered, I have P7s on at the moment (a bit cone shaped now!) and was thinking of replacing them. What makes do you recommend and is it worth going for second hand?
i know i will get my head bitten of , but i allways get part worn. never had a problem with them , but its up to you :y :y and the cash you got ;D ;D
As chrisgixer says, part worns have a use. There are times when we have to buy tyres when we were not budgetting to, etc.

However, I still maintain that always using part worn is false economy (ignoring any other issues present with part worns - worn in on a different setup, potential for non-visible damage following an accident, etc).  Most part-worns are around 5mm, which is well over half worn (new tyres usually 9mm, completely spent at 2mm, recommended to change at 3mm for ability to disperse water).
Title: Re: Tyres, which make?
Post by: a2reed on 01 October 2012, 10:14:44
I too am replacing suspension as my tyres are nearly down to the metal on the inside shoulders .....The ones on the back still with plenty on them ( and the worn out front ones) are Avon ZV5

Is it worth getting the same again on the front?????

Or is there another recommended make?
Title: Re: Tyres, which make?
Post by: bored bigyin54 on 01 October 2012, 11:04:38
I had a few problems with wishbones, geo etc and my tyres are a bit buggered, I have P7s on at the moment (a bit cone shaped now!) and was thinking of replacing them. What makes do you recommend and is it worth going for second hand?
i know i will get my head bitten of , but i allways get part worn. never had a problem with them , but its up to you :y :y and the cash you got ;D ;D
As chrisgixer says, part worns have a use. There are times when we have to buy tyres when we were not budgetting to, etc.

However, I still maintain that always using part worn is false economy (ignoring any other issues present with part worns - worn in on a different setup, potential for non-visible damage following an accident, etc).  Most part-worns are around 5mm, which is well over half worn (new tyres usually 9mm, completely spent at 2mm, recommended to change at 3mm for ability to disperse water).
the ones i get are always around 7mm as i pick them myself , where i go he gets me to pick them myself. :y
Title: Re: Tyres, which make?
Post by: mga32 on 01 October 2012, 13:09:09
Isn't this Chris's expertise?  ::) :y
He'd only recommend Falkens...
...shut it you! ;D

Falkens are shite, on omega, just in case anyone doesn't know yet.

Iirc (this is a lie, I had to check your post history) there's an outstanding question on the set up since the last work on the suspension...?

But as long as your happy with the car and the set up;

...er, well it depends what you call a good tyre?
Cheap?
Sport?
Low wear?
Quiet?
Stable?

Michelin primacy, last for silly miles if driven sensibly. Poor lateral grip.

I use conti sc3, bit noisy, good grip v wear. Fairly stable. Expensive.
TB uses sport max tt, high grip high wear high price, very planted and stable. Noisy.

Mid range Kumho ku31/39 reasonable mid range tyre. Less grippy than above.


...actually, most of those are obsolete now. :-[ ;D


Amyway, you get the idea. What sort of driver are you? Miss Daisy, Joe Bloggs or Ken Block?


Ps, second hand do have a use. If your still having set up issues for instance...?
And also if new suspension fitted, it's best to leave set up, and hence New tyres, until the new suspension has settled. At least a couple of weeks if possible.

Hopefully that's of more help than those other jokers above? ;D


Hi

The last setup produced this on a visualiner pro 32

left front -1.27 (0.05)
right front -1.98 (0.05)
left rear -1.81 (-0.27) adjuster seized
right rear -2.44 (0.21)
Title: Re: Tyres, which make?
Post by: feeutfo on 01 October 2012, 14:09:40
Ah, looks like fractions of a degree, rather than degrees and minutes we're used to.

But approaching two degrees is never correct on front right.

In minutes it shouldn't be any more than -1 degree and 20 minutes combined average.

So I'd hold off on new tyres until that and the rear track rod are sorted.
Title: Re: Tyres, which make?
Post by: TheBoy on 01 October 2012, 17:59:03
I too am replacing suspension as my tyres are nearly down to the metal on the inside shoulders .....The ones on the back still with plenty on them ( and the worn out front ones) are Avon ZV5

Is it worth getting the same again on the front?????

Or is there another recommended make?
I found ZV5 too slippery, hence only managed 4k from the back of my old tractor
Title: Re: Tyres, which make?
Post by: TheBoy on 01 October 2012, 18:01:22
Hi

The last setup produced this on a visualiner pro 32

left front -1.27 (0.05)
right front -1.98 (0.05)
left rear -1.81 (-0.27) adjuster seized
right rear -2.44 (0.21)
Rear camber in unimportant really - Trailing arms run with lots of camber usually. Toe is the key for the rear.

Front camber, looks like one side of yours has way too much.
Title: Re: Tyres, which make?
Post by: sw3en3y on 02 October 2012, 17:32:31
I use Firestone fire hawk SZ90u's very good tyres seem to last well and offer good grip in dry and wet conditions. Hope this helps
Title: Re: Tyres, which make?
Post by: kingycos2 on 03 October 2012, 17:30:20
Goodyear eagles for me, with really no compromise.....  :y