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Chat Area => General Discussion Area => Topic started by: Lazydocker on 11 October 2012, 18:51:10
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Was planning to change network over to O2 at the end of my current contract but 3 came through with a deal that was too good to refuse so ordered SWMBO and I 64Gig iPhone 5's at lunchtime... Delivery tomorrow :y
Oh... And no upfront charges :y
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Was planning to change network over to O2 at the end of my current contract but 3 came through with a deal that was too good to refuse so ordered SWMBO and I 64Gig iPhone 5's at lunchtime... Delivery tomorrow :y
Oh... And no upfront charges :y
Getting my 32gb 19th this month been waiting for a month (bought direct from apple) ;D
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The fanboys are like Safari Park Chimps ;D
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The fanboys are like Safari Park Chimps ;D
Having had a little play it seemed the logical thing to do, especially as I keep having to remove things from my 16Gb 4 and it was upgrade time ::)
You've seen the state of hers so I'll get the screen replaced and then flog them both :y
O2's best deal (for me) was to lease for 12 months at £50 + VAT (with nothing upfront) or nearly £200 upfront (each!) for a similar monthly payment to that offered by 3 on an upgrade ::) Then I had a little chat with my Brother in Law (who used to be an O2 Fanboy) and he said that 3 offered better service everywhere around here as far as he was concerned and had switched :y
Got to go out tomorrow and get a couple of decent cases and screen protectors (before she's allowed loose with hers!) then it's just getting hold of the new style leads as it seems Apple have added a chip to them to prevent cheap copies from working ::)
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3 offers a universal shite service. Oddly enough it works in my town. Or some of it anyway. Unlike Vodafoney.
What is monthly cost though. Not that I am the slightest bit interested in going with 3 for signal reasons. TBH, not even interested in getting a new phone either ;D
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3 used to piggy back off 02,has that changed in recent years ???
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3 used to piggy back off 02,has that changed in recent years ???
Was only for brief time at launch & 2G only
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3 used to piggy back off 02,has that changed in recent years ???
Was only for brief time at launch & 2G only
Aha,long time since I was a customer of there's,no complaints though as they were good at the time :y
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I've got a mate who swears by three, but then again he's never tried any others!! Far as I see he uses most of his minutes on the phone to 3 trying to sort his problems out with some lad from india who can never help!!!
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3 used to piggy back off 02,has that changed in recent years ???
Ages ago. Then T-Mobile IIRC. Now nobody. Hence fairly universally poor.
Having suffered Vodafoney for about 5 years, and their poor coverage, I'll happily pay a bit more for a O2 based network, even if O2's 3G coverage is a bit naff. At least I always have a signal for making calls and sending texts. Except between Jnc 9 and 8 on the M40 ;D
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TBH, there are very few places in the country where I can get an O2 signal and not one on 3 ;) And when you do have a 3 signal it's a 3G one, even in Brakkers ;)
As for monthly cost... Not cheap, but cheaper than the lease deal, but is truly unlimited data including tethering :y And more minutes and texts than I will have to use :y
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I pretty much universally get a better signal on my '3' powered iPad than my O2 or Voda iPhones (one personal, one work) - but I always put that down to the size of the antenna..
Took delivery of my 64Gb 5 yesterday and, so far, I rather like it.
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Been on the THREE network myself for about 18 months not had any major problems (and thats in wales) before was on Orange couldnt get away from them quick enough... But i would like to try EE's 4G when available.. isn't THREE going to piggy back off EE's 4G signal or have i heard wrong but this would be more appealing if true ?
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I like the iPhone 5 hardware, but iOS 6 has some issues for me. Don't like the new App store layout, been giving Android a serious go, really liking it so far.
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I like the iPhone 5 hardware, but iOS 6 has some issues for me. Don't like the new App store layout, been giving Android a serious go, really liking it so far.
I went from iphone 3gs to galaxy s2,I wouldnt go back again.
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I like the iPhone 5 hardware, but iOS 6 has some issues for me. Don't like the new App store layout, been giving Android a serious go, really liking it so far.
I went from iphone 3gs to galaxy s2,I wouldnt go back again.
Not a fan of the S2, far too cheaply built and I don't like some of the forced Samsung tie in. Got a HTC Sensation XE at the moment as a test, which is not bad, as my 3G-S has a screen fault. Its software I think, but using it as an excuse for a new one.
However its made me wonder if I want an S3
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TBH, there are very few places in the country where I can get an O2 signal and not one on 3 ;) And when you do have a 3 signal it's a 3G one, even in Brakkers ;)
As for monthly cost... Not cheap, but cheaper than the lease deal, but is truly unlimited data including tethering :y And more minutes and texts than I will have to use :y
Signal. It works here, in Buckingham, in Silverstone and in Banbury. Just nowhere in between. O2 is 900Mhz 3G here.
As to 3 giving truely unlimited, they don't. They say they do, but there is more than 1 way to skin a cat :-X
I'm quite happy to pay what I do for my PAYG O2 based service, with near universal ability to make calls. In the last 18 months, I've topped up £70 (as I burned up £35 in Cyprus last year in 2 days ::)), and still have £45 credit ::). For that I get 250m/Unltd text/1Gb inc tethering (as from next month). Works for me :)
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However its made me wonder if I want an S3
Way too big for me. Way to big. SIII Mini should be announced tomorrow.
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TBH, there are very few places in the country where I can get an O2 signal and not one on 3 ;) And when you do have a 3 signal it's a 3G one, even in Brakkers ;)
As for monthly cost... Not cheap, but cheaper than the lease deal, but is truly unlimited data including tethering :y And more minutes and texts than I will have to use :y
Signal. It works here, in Buckingham, in Silverstone and in Banbury. Just nowhere in between. O2 is 900Mhz 3G here.
As to 3 giving truely unlimited, they don't. They say they do, but there is more than 1 way to skin a cat :-X
I'm quite happy to pay what I do for my PAYG O2 based service, with near universal ability to make calls. In the last 18 months, I've topped up £70 (as I burned up £35 in Cyprus last year in 2 days ::)), and still have £45 credit ::). For that I get 250m/Unltd text/1Gb inc tethering (as from next month). Works for me :)
I have a PAYG from the same provider as a backup... Too unreliable for my business needs (text messages not arriving for hours :o) so would have to be full fat O2, who are just ridiculously over priced for the same (actually, a worse) package.
And I know I've already paid for the privilege of unlimited data and I also know they can (and probably will, no matter what they promise ::)) throttle it if my usage is excessive ::) But I know someone on the unlimited data who streams radio for up to 8 hours per day and they haven't restricted his access as yet ;)
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Oh, and I've had no issues holding conversations when driving around the countryside there ;)
In fact, the only place I frequent that the signal is frustratingly patchy is at home ::) Although it's likely they will improve that quite soon as there's a new mast in the area that is currently only being used by one provider... Vodaphone :o Who I wouldn't go with if they were the last provider on earth as once away from that mast the signal will be crap ::)
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Not ever experienced any delay with texts from anyone. Had trouble with the providers own automated texts, but thats because the provider's computer systems are shite ;D
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Oh, and I've had no issues holding conversations when driving around the countryside there ;)
In fact, the only place I frequent that the signal is frustratingly patchy is at home ::) Although it's likely they will improve that quite soon as there's a new mast in the area that is currently only being used by one provider... Vodaphone :o Who I wouldn't go with if they were the last provider on earth as once away from that mast the signal will be crap ::)
I wonder why 3 choose to provide service in the arse end of nowhere, but not, for example, along the M40 ???
Glad it works for you :y. Only O2 works for me. And I've heard H21 say only Vodafoney works for him.
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Not ever experienced any delay with texts from anyone. Had trouble with the providers own automated texts, but thats because the provider's computer systems are shite ;D
Think it depends where in the country you are... Frequently I will get the same message through imessage on the gayphone (Three) and the other, even though it has good signal (not 3G mind as it's universally poor around these parts), a minimum of 20 minutes later >:( No good for a 60 minute ETA ;) ::)
Anyway... I'm happy enough with the deal and I'm in SWMBO's good books for getting her a 5 too ;) :y
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Oh, and I've had no issues holding conversations when driving around the countryside there ;)
In fact, the only place I frequent that the signal is frustratingly patchy is at home ::) Although it's likely they will improve that quite soon as there's a new mast in the area that is currently only being used by one provider... Vodaphone :o Who I wouldn't go with if they were the last provider on earth as once away from that mast the signal will be crap ::)
I wonder why 3 choose to provide service in the arse end of nowhere, but not, for example, along the M40 ???
Glad it works for you :y. Only O2 works for me. And I've heard H21 say only Vodafoney works for him.
It is strange. I've not had issues with signal on the M40... Well, I didn't a year ago when I was on a call driving up it from London to Banbury :-\
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Not ever experienced any delay with texts from anyone. Had trouble with the providers own automated texts, but thats because the provider's computer systems are shite ;D
Think it depends where in the country you are... Frequently I will get the same message through imessage on the gayphone (Three) and the other, even though it has good signal (not 3G mind as it's universally poor around these parts), a minimum of 20 minutes later >:( No good for a 60 minute ETA ;) ::)
Anyway... I'm happy enough with the deal and I'm in SWMBO's good books for getting her a 5 too ;) :y
Ah, thats likely to be crApple's iMessage. Disable it. On any network, with any signal.
I tend to send, according to my provider, approx 500 texts a month, and would guess I receive similar. As said, never seen any delays. iMessage disabled, a) because its unreliable, b) because crApple make Google look like angels.
Due to patchy 3 coverage, not sure if I'd disable iMessage on 3, as you may be unlucky and get into the retry wait time.
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Oh, and I've had no issues holding conversations when driving around the countryside there ;)
In fact, the only place I frequent that the signal is frustratingly patchy is at home ::) Although it's likely they will improve that quite soon as there's a new mast in the area that is currently only being used by one provider... Vodaphone :o Who I wouldn't go with if they were the last provider on earth as once away from that mast the signal will be crap ::)
I wonder why 3 choose to provide service in the arse end of nowhere, but not, for example, along the M40 ???
Glad it works for you :y. Only O2 works for me. And I've heard H21 say only Vodafoney works for him.
It is strange. I've not had issues with signal on the M40... Well, I didn't a year ago when I was on a call driving up it from London to Banbury :-\
Its a standard joke around these parts that only Vodafoney can provide a good signal around the mid parts of the M40. I say 'joke', sadly its true ;D
My experience with 3 shows massive blackspots along it - with a proper Nokia phone, not the so-so iPhone radio.
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Not found iMessage unreliable at all tbh. At least it confirms receipt ::)
And I'm talking of receiving, not sending ;)
Must admit, I'm tempted to chuck the PAYG sim in my iPhone 4 instead of selling it :-\ It's currently in a Nokia 6600 Slide. But then I see how much they sell for and change my mind ::)
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Nokia 6300 on O2. :y
Can't remember the last time I didn't have a signal.. oh, it isn't that great at the gliding club. Normally get a missed call indication half way up a winch launch. :-[ :-X
They did manage to screw up their entire network on the same day that Sleazyjet failed miserably to provide a couple of pilots with enough hours to fly me home from Munich, though. >:(
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So how does 4G help us out with all this?
Will Everything everywhere live up to its name?
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;D
Just like TheBoy I will keep on using my trusty KU990 and GM360 cos they do all I want them to do and I am not interested in simply buying an expensive phone to show others I am in the 'trend'. Better things to spend money on that are far more practical...... ;)
As for a signal..we have been with Tesco (O2) for years and have not had any real problems with a signal wherever we have been. It may be a weak one sometimes but at least was there. The only times we had problems was when we were in new buildings with the sheer amount of steel used in them deflecting the signal.
No doubt others will disagree but we are happy with what we have so really don't care.......... ;D ;D ;D ;D we leave the posing to teenagers and wannabees.......... ;)
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I love the crapple adverts for the new iphone, it sayin big white letters accross the "limited availabilty" Has anyone who wants on struggled to get one ? ;D ;D ;D the power of advertising, can't beat it.
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Having a bit of grief with the 3 techy team at the mo..
our local mast is 'down'
what that really means they wont say, but after having a bit of a 'polite strop, with informing them how service industry works' they decided to admit it was going to be down for another few weeks....
neither of us had a bill this month :) daresay we wont next month either :)
We have found on 3, that when you start getting issues such as missing texts, walk into a 3 shop and they give you a new sim card which sorts the issue. (dont try this on the helpline, as they wont, and say its impossible for a new sim to sort it)
cant beleive the sim is actually faulty, suspect it refreshes something in the backend that really sorts the problem
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So how does 4G help us out with all this?
Will Everything everywhere live up to its name?
Don't hold your breath. ;D
Providing universal coverage for any network is an expensive game of diminishing returns, so they roll out enough to reap the rich pickings in cities and usage hotspots, and roll out enough coverage elsewhere to stop (too many) customers jumping ship.
"4G" / LTE isn't really a technology suited to providing blanket coverage of large areas, IMHO. It's best suited to providing very concentrated high speed data in areas of dense usage. Laughable, then, that OFCOM, in their wisdom, are pushing the digital dividend TV spectrum for it, since it's at entirely the wrong frequency for the technology.
Expect to be falling back to either 2G (or phone boxes!) in the more remote areas, regardless of technology.
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I'm with odinge or as its known now EE i find the coverage dam good customer service is UK based but that's because in a "premier customer" and coverage in France,bellygum,and cloogy land good,
but this Nokia 800 lumia is cr•p.
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So how does 4G help us out with all this?
Will Everything everywhere live up to its name?
The EE 4G Network will be expanded by switching off some of its mirrored Orange or T Mobile Sites, so much for there biggest Network in the Uk claim.
Still cant believe O2 and Vodafone are knocking out iPhone 5's on 24 month contracts, knowingly and not telling Customers that the phone will never work on there own 4G Networks in the near future!
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Well, they both arrived just after lunch time :y :y
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my son has just received his Iphone 5 and promptly dropped it - it broke immediately - his new one arrives today.
Get yourself a decent case for it. The Nokias will survive a few drops but the Iphone does not appear to be too resilient.
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New cases and screen protectors will be fitted before they go live ;) All I've done at the moment is put them both on charge and I expect to spend the rest of this evening sorting them out ::)
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Nokia 6300 on O2. :y
Can't remember the last time I didn't have a signal.. oh, it isn't that great at the gliding club. Normally get a missed call indication half way up a winch launch. :-[ :-X
Today ;D
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Nokia 6300 on O2. :y
Can't remember the last time I didn't have a signal.. oh, it isn't that great at the gliding club. Normally get a missed call indication half way up a winch launch. :-[ :-X
Today ;D
Indeed... Makes me glad I stayed with 3 as this is the 2nd time in a few months ::)
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Nokia 6300 on O2. :y
Can't remember the last time I didn't have a signal.. oh, it isn't that great at the gliding club. Normally get a missed call indication half way up a winch launch. :-[ :-X
Today ;D
Full signal today, and, yes, I can make a call. :P
However, this is becoming a bit of a habit for them. ::)
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Nokia 6300 on O2. :y
Can't remember the last time I didn't have a signal.. oh, it isn't that great at the gliding club. Normally get a missed call indication half way up a winch launch. :-[ :-X
Today ;D
Indeed... Makes me glad I stayed with 3 as this is the 2nd time in a few months ::)
In the case of NiffNaff, 3rd time in 7 months, useless 'tards. 2nd for O2, nearly as useless 'tards.
But I'm staying, as nobody offers the coverage of O2 based networks.
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How long is the lead on the 5 charger?
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How long is the lead on the 5 charger?
About same as old one, although new leads have a chip inside them, so only genuine will work. Although there are indications it has been cracked
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How long is the lead on the 5 charger?
About same as old one, although new leads have a chip inside them, so only genuine will work. Although there are indications it has been cracked
So woefully short then :(
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Nokia 6300 on O2. :y
Can't remember the last time I didn't have a signal.. oh, it isn't that great at the gliding club. Normally get a missed call indication half way up a winch launch. :-[ :-X
Today ;D
Indeed... Makes me glad I stayed with 3 as this is the 2nd time in a few months ::)
In the case of NiffNaff, 3rd time in 7 months, useless 'tards. 2nd for O2, nearly as useless 'tards.
But I'm staying, as nobody offers the coverage of O2 based networks.
Indeed. I'll be keeping an O2 based service as my back up :y
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How long is the lead on the 5 charger?
About same as old one, although new leads have a chip inside them, so only genuine will work. Although there are indications it has been cracked
So woefully short then :(
It is a bit. As for the chip, it seems that certain well known brands have either cracked it or got a license for it
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Got to say, I'm impressed with the 5's performance over wifi (still waiting for the nano sim to go live ::)). It's incredibly quick compared with the 4 :y
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Got to say, I'm impressed with the 5's performance over wifi (still waiting for the nano sim to go live ::)). It's incredibly quick compared with the 4 :y
There's a video of some guy on utube firing inputs into as quick as he possibly could. It kept up no problem. In fact the graphics where perfectly smooth.
...although one would hope it would be brand new. See how quick it is when it's full up with crap. ...?
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LD do keep us posted on the battery life of the phone through and actual days usage! Have looked at reviews some say good others say vice versa! Would be interested to know a hands on from you! ;)
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How long is the lead on the 5 charger?
The iPhone 5 doesn't need charging, it charges you....lots! ;D
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LD do keep us posted on the battery life of the phone through and actual days usage! Have looked at reviews some say good others say vice versa! Would be interested to know a hands on from you! ;)
I'm not the best person to give that info as mine gets charged frequently (well, it will when I get a new charger for the car ::)) because it's used heavily and for work ;)
But yesterday it seemed to last about 9 hours of heavy usage over wifi and constantly dropping in and out of signal (after about lunchtime when the new sim went live). I always have GPS running for various reasons (business tracking being one) and Bluetooth on, as well as WiFi so it's heavily used ;)
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How long is the lead on the 5 charger?
The iPhone 5 doesn't need charging, it charges you....lots! ;D
The phone doesn't charge you lots, the suppliers do ;) ;D
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On heavy usage that average 9hrs doesnt sound bad though!
But then again tbh with smart phones you get into a habit of putting it on charge everynight! :y
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On heavy usage that average 9hrs doesnt sound bad though!
But then again tbh with smart phones you get into a habit of putting it on charge everynight! :y
very true, I put mine on every night just before going to sleep even though I have around over 50% left in the tank sometimes , but its good to completely drain the phone till it shuts down now and again then to fully charge preserves the battery I believe :y
Just had an update from apple my delivery date has been reduced from 19-25th October to 15-19 October :D :-*
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On heavy usage that average 9hrs doesnt sound bad though!
But then again tbh with smart phones you get into a habit of putting it on charge everynight! :y
very true, I put mine on every night just before going to sleep even though I have around over 50% left in the tank sometimes , but its good to completely drain the phone till it shuts down now and again then to fully charge preserves the battery I believe :y
Just had an update from apple my delivery date has been reduced from 19-25th October to 15-19 October :D :-*
It's not as important to drain the battery completely with modern technology ;)
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On heavy usage that average 9hrs doesnt sound bad though!
But then again tbh with smart phones you get into a habit of putting it on charge everynight! :y
Put it this way... Yesterday I started streaming you tube footage of the Red Bull Stratos Jump on 25% and 2 hours later it was still on 4%
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On heavy usage that average 9hrs doesnt sound bad though!
But then again tbh with smart phones you get into a habit of putting it on charge everynight! :y
very true, I put mine on every night just before going to sleep even though I have around over 50% left in the tank sometimes , but its good to completely drain the phone till it shuts down now and again then to fully charge preserves the battery I believe :y
Just had an update from apple my delivery date has been reduced from 19-25th October to 15-19 October :D :-*
Li-Ion, you can knacker them by over discharging them. They have virtually zero memory effect unlike earlier types, and are usually rated to about 300-500 charges. So, yes, your super whizzy gayphone, if charged daily, may not make the contract period.
With the O2 based SIM, mine is normally good for about 3 days, max, with the use I give it (fair amount). With the Voda SIM in, 24hrs is not possible.
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On heavy usage that average 9hrs doesnt sound bad though!
But then again tbh with smart phones you get into a habit of putting it on charge everynight! :y
Put it this way... Yesterday I started streaming you tube footage of the Red Bull Stratos Jump on 25% and 2 hours later it was still on 4%
On Wifi or 3G?
About what I'd expect from my 3yr old 3GS on wifi, as the battery is starting to go.
Not tried on 3G, as when I'm out and about, its for a reason, and thats not to watch the telly ;D
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On heavy usage that average 9hrs doesnt sound bad though!
But then again tbh with smart phones you get into a habit of putting it on charge everynight! :y
Put it this way... Yesterday I started streaming you tube footage of the Red Bull Stratos Jump on 25% and 2 hours later it was still on 4%
On Wifi or 3G?
About what I'd expect from my 3yr old 3GS on wifi, as the battery is starting to go.
Not tried on 3G, as when I'm out and about, its for a reason, and thats not to watch the telly ;D
Switching between them.
I still don't understand how you can get 3 days from a 3GS :-\ Although mine is generally searching for signal and gets used very heavily. Plus I always have GPS, WiFi and BT running as well as other things.
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I still don't understand how you can get 3 days from a 3GS :-\ Although mine is generally searching for signal and gets used very heavily. Plus I always have GPS, WiFi and BT running as well as other things.
I *can* get 3 days from it. Normally, I don't like it getting too low, in case I'm stranded with a low battery. It was fully charged before I left for Oxford meet yesterday, and I suspect I'll pop it on charge when I get in the office tomorrow morning. As an estimate, it'll be around 40%.
Wifi/BT/3G/GPS always enabled (although latter isn't constantly used, although most apps have permission to use Location Services). Wifi at home, and work. Not sure if Wifi is kinder than cellular data. Had mega life in Cyprus with BT and Data disabled, think I only charged it once in the week ;D
I have, as previously eluded to, noticed a massive, massive difference between my NiffNaff SIM and Vodafone SIM. Voda struggles to last the day, due to poor signal. I guess with Voda, its constantly trying to reach the unreachable network.
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Can get 2 days out of mine, if I barely use it, while leaving everything on. 3 days shouldn't be too far off.
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Can get 2 days out of mine, if I barely use it, while leaving everything on. 3 days shouldn't be too far off.
Yeah, 4 is supposed to have better battery life. I know you use yours on OOF "a lot", so that will hammer the battery I would have thought.
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Can get 2 days out of mine, if I barely use it, while leaving everything on. 3 days shouldn't be too far off.
Yeah, 4 is supposed to have better battery life. I know you use yours on OOF "a lot", so that will hammer the battery I would have thought.
That's probably where mine falls down... Even at home I frequently use it to pop in here or another forum. Plus I use it to track my vehicles, checking in several times per day. Plus generally 90+ minutes of calls per day plus numerous text messages and emails. Plus sat nav if needed in the car. Plus....
I think you get the picture ::)
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Can get 2 days out of mine, if I barely use it, while leaving everything on. 3 days shouldn't be too far off.
Yeah, 4 is supposed to have better battery life. I know you use yours on OOF "a lot", so that will hammer the battery I would have thought.
so with that level of use I'd have about 40% left per day.
I use the iPad at home though.