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Title: Lance Armstrong
Post by: tigers_gonads on 18 January 2013, 10:45:23
opps Him   >:( >:( >:(

We should today spare a thought for all clean atheletes who don't dope and have had success taken from them by cheaters.
Then consider all the people he went after on his crusade to prove himself inocent and the lives he ruined.

Last night he effectively sought to blame cancer for his 'win at all costs mentality'
Most shockingly he said he doped himself in order to 'compete on a level playing field', then proceeded to win Le Tour seven times on the spin (he even said he was 100% confident that he'd win it each time)
I thought he could not have sunk lower but with that explanation he did.
 
Think of all those riders whom 'it would have been their year' but they never enjoyed a Tour win because of him. Disgraceful isn't the word, and it makes Wiggo's achievements even more humbling

Paul kimmage was right when he wrote on his comeback, the cancer is back  :y

I'll also say this with no regrets .............. I hope his cancer returns  >:(

Now who was it on here that thought he was inocent and was been set up by jealous colleagues  ::)
Title: Re: Lance Armstrong
Post by: feeutfo on 18 January 2013, 11:09:58
Brief clip from his interview

" i believed it was a bit like saying, you have to have air in your tyres, or water in your bottle. "

A measure of the sport at the time perhaps? It's a bit like f1. If they have ground effect, you have to have ground effect. If they have a turbo, you go get one. They have a fancy front wing, so do you.

Ie, if your competitors are on drugs, you have to be too just to compete on a level field.

The sport at the time was sodden with drugs iirc. Fairly disgusting regardless.
Title: Re: Lance Armstrong
Post by: ozzycat on 18 January 2013, 11:34:36
 >:( >:( i hope the powers that be make him pay back all the money he made through out his carer >:( >:(
Title: Re: Lance Armstrong
Post by: geoffr70 on 18 January 2013, 11:42:28
What a disgusting thing to say that you hope his cancer returns. He's a cheat. Has he affected you personally? Enough to wish that? You might at least have had the sense not to say that on a public forum.
Title: Re: Lance Armstrong
Post by: Sir Tigger KC on 18 January 2013, 11:45:19
I'll also say this with no regrets .............. I hope his cancer returns  >:

Having had cancer I wouldn't wish it on anyone, whatever they had done...

That statement is pure evil and extremely nasty!!!!  >:( >:( >:(
Title: Re: Lance Armstrong
Post by: steve6367 on 18 January 2013, 11:55:05
I'll also say this with no regrets .............. I hope his cancer returns  >:

Having had cancer I wouldn't wish it on anyone, whatever they had done...

That statement is pure evil and extremely nasty!!!!  >:( >:( >:(

From the same perspective I second that - would not wish it on my worst enemy.

It does not make it right, but reading an article on the BBC website it does seem most of the competitors were on drugs during the period he had his wins.
Title: Re: Lance Armstrong
Post by: tigers_gonads on 18 January 2013, 12:00:09
Fair enough on the cancer bit
Just having a rant and should have re read it before I hit the button  ::)

Apoligies to anybody offended  :-[

ADMIN, feel free to remove that piece please  :-[
Title: Re: Lance Armstrong
Post by: feeutfo on 18 January 2013, 12:20:00
He has had cancer.
Title: Re: Lance Armstrong
Post by: Lizzie_Zoom on 18 January 2013, 12:20:09
I'll also say this with no regrets .............. I hope his cancer returns  >:

Having had cancer I wouldn't wish it on anyone, whatever they had done...

That statement is pure evil and extremely nasty!!!!  >:( >:( >:(

+1
Title: Re: Lance Armstrong
Post by: symes on 18 January 2013, 12:31:24
A cheat is the first loser !!!!!!!!
Title: Re: Lance Armstrong
Post by: Varche on 18 January 2013, 12:36:45
What I wonder is just how many other athletes/sportsmen/sportswomen are doing the same sort of cheating?

The mind boggles at blood transfusions for example. He isn't the only person to have done this for sure.
Title: Re: Lance Armstrong
Post by: BridgeyBoy on 18 January 2013, 13:10:39
I haven't seen the Armstrong confession on Oprah yet... did he admit that America didn't actually go the moon?

Apparently he did look very upset during the interview so Oprah gave him a performance enhancing hug.

Above all, no matter how bad things might get for you, just remember you have won just as many Tour De France titles as Lance!

...I'm here all week.... ;)
Title: Re: Lance Armstrong
Post by: mantahatch on 18 January 2013, 13:35:18
What I wonder is just how many other athletes/sportsmen/sportswomen are doing the same sort of cheating?

The mind boggles at blood transfusions for example. He isn't the only person to have done this for sure.

Agree with that and just add about the "urine transfers" I kid you not and yes it does include inserting a tube up "it"
Title: Re: Lance Armstrong
Post by: symes on 18 January 2013, 13:38:49
What I wonder is just how many other athletes/sportsmen/sportswomen are doing the same sort of cheating?

The mind boggles at blood transfusions for example. He isn't the only person to have done this for sure.

Agree with that and just add about the "urine transfers" I kid you not and yes it does include inserting a tube up "it"
you mean a catheter  :y
Title: Re: Lance Armstrong
Post by: mantahatch on 18 January 2013, 15:20:45
What I wonder is just how many other athletes/sportsmen/sportswomen are doing the same sort of cheating?

The mind boggles at blood transfusions for example. He isn't the only person to have done this for sure.

Agree with that and just add about the "urine transfers" I kid you not and yes it does include inserting a tube up "it"
you mean a catheter  :y

Thats the thing  :y But sadly the urine runs the wrong way when they do it  :o
Title: Re: Lance Armstrong
Post by: Vamps on 18 January 2013, 15:22:24
What I wonder is just how many other athletes/sportsmen/sportswomen are doing the same sort of cheating?

The mind boggles at blood transfusions for example. He isn't the only person to have done this for sure.

Agree with that and just add about the "urine transfers" I kid you not and yes it does include inserting a tube up "it"
you mean a catheter  :y

Thats the thing  :y But sadly the urine runs the wrong way when they do it  :o

Really? :o :o I have heard it all now....... ::) ::) ::)
Title: Re: Lance Armstrong
Post by: symes on 18 January 2013, 15:23:25
 :o :o :o :o :o :o :o
Title: Re: Lance Armstrong
Post by: Rods2 on 18 January 2013, 20:22:49
There were at the time a minority of cyclists that refused to dope and it those honest people that I feel sorry for.

The fact that he ruthlessly went after people who alleged he was doping at the time through the courts and won damages, he should now be charged with perjury and hopefully jailed.

Many of the sports ruling body are alleged to have colluded with Lance Armstrong when he bought them off for a failed urine test for $100,000. These people also need to be brought to book.

I think the only way to cleanse the sport of this disgraceful era is to find out who doped and who was clean for all of the past 20 years of the Tour de France and other professional cycle races by all of the competitors signing a public statement on whether they were clean or doping. If they sign that they were clean and it later transpires that they were doping they should face jail.

To me Lance Armstrong's aggressive any bullying covering of his actions is actually worse than the cheating itself and that is why I think it is right he should be on perjury charges.

To clean up the sport many heads within the Cycling Federation past and present need to roll. Although an Olympic ban would unfairly penalize those that are clean and also the UK where we are very strong in this sport, the threat of this maybe necessary to get the Cycling Federation to take the necessary action to clean up their act.

Well done to the US cycling federation and US Government for pursuing this to the end, despite all of his official denials and legal action to stop the truth coming out.  :y :y :y
Title: Re: Lance Armstrong
Post by: feeutfo on 19 January 2013, 20:45:31
I'm not sure i didn't see anything other than an extremely intense sportsman at the top of his game, playing that game to the absolute max, as you have go do to be no1.

And as with most top sportsman, a complete inability to know where the line is. Sure, he knew where the whining line is, but completely lost all comprehension of the moral line.


The rest was covering the tracks, with all that was at stake. Fans, teams, sponsors not just of him, but the cancer foundation which raised $500,000,000 in total so far.

He's the head of a massive pyramid under him. Of a sport that was partly responsible for doping in itself.

He failed them all before he even knew what he was doing. Sad sad sad story.
Title: Re: Lance Armstrong
Post by: symes on 19 January 2013, 20:51:22
Its how sport is thought about    England=Oh well you did your best   USA=second is first loser you in it to win
So the temtation to chat is there.However what about ALL the others that helped Lance??? not heard about them?have you?
Title: Re: Lance Armstrong
Post by: omega3000 on 19 January 2013, 20:57:26
What I wonder is just how many other athletes/sportsmen/sportswomen are doing the same sort of cheating?

The mind boggles at blood transfusions for example. He isn't the only person to have done this for sure.

Agree with that and just add about the "urine transfers" I kid you not and yes it does include inserting a tube up "it"

I had that done a few years ago , most embarrassing and painful .. it dont help when 2 trainee students are in the room either  :-[ :-[ :-[
Title: Re: Lance Armstrong
Post by: symes on 19 January 2013, 21:04:07
What I wonder is just how many other athletes/sportsmen/sportswomen are doing the same sort of cheating?

The mind boggles at blood transfusions for example. He isn't the only person to have done this for sure.

Agree with that and just add about the "urine transfers" I kid you not and yes it does include inserting a tube up "it"
I remember one guy pulled out !!!! :o

I had that done a few years ago , most embarrassing and painful .. it dont help when 2 trainee students are in the room either  :-[ :-[ :-[
Title: Re: Lance Armstrong
Post by: Gaffers on 19 January 2013, 21:36:26
He did something wrong, lied about it, lied again, continued lying, did a couple of good things using the spoils of the lie, never once did he come clean until he had to.  The guy is a disgrace, likening his lifetime ban to a death sentence!  If he was showing true remorse he would have said "fair cop, I merit all the punishment you deem necessary to throw at me"

Sorry, but he is not even worthy of the time spent on this thread.  opps him.
Title: Re: Lance Armstrong
Post by: ozzycat on 19 January 2013, 21:44:19
He did something wrong, lied about it, lied again, continued lying, did a couple of good things using the spoils of the lie, never once did he come clean until he had to.  The guy is a disgrace, likening his lifetime ban to a death sentence!  If he was showing true remorse he would have said "fair cop, I merit all the punishment you deem necessary to throw at me"

Sorry, but he is not even worthy of the time spent on this thread.  opps him.
  :y :y :y totaly agree with every word hes lied about it in the past hes still lying now  bleeding gobshite >:( >:( >:( >:(
Title: Re: Lance Armstrong
Post by: albitz on 20 January 2013, 08:34:58
He did something wrong, lied about it, lied again, continued lying, did a couple of good things using the spoils of the lie, never once did he come clean until he had to.  The guy is a disgrace, likening his lifetime ban to a death sentence!  If he was showing true remorse he would have said "fair cop, I merit all the punishment you deem necessary to throw at me"

Sorry, but he is not even worthy of the time spent on this thread.  opps him.

Completely agree.In addition to all of the above he used his position and wealth to try destroy good honest people who tried to expose him for the bullying,cheating,lying egomaniac he is. I believe it was his masseusse, who he branded an alcoholic and a whore when she tried to tell the truth.
Ive known people like him,and I genuinely hate that type of character.The world would be a better place without them.
Title: Re: Lance Armstrong
Post by: feeutfo on 20 January 2013, 10:23:10
He did something wrong, lied about it, lied again, continued lying, did a couple of good things using the spoils of the lie, never once did he come clean until he had to.  The guy is a disgrace, likening his lifetime ban to a death sentence!  If he was showing true remorse he would have said "fair cop, I merit all the punishment you deem necessary to throw at me"

Sorry, but he is not even worthy of the time spent on this thread.  opps him.

Completely agree.In addition to all of the above he used his position and wealth to try destroy good honest people who tried to expose him for the bullying,cheating,lying egomaniac he is. I believe it was his masseusse, who he branded an alcoholic and a whore when she tried to tell the truth.
Ive known people like him,and I genuinely hate that type of character.The world would be a better place without them.

Yes my post sounds a bit like I'm defending him a bit, having re read it. Many people's careers affected , destroyed, and at best wont reflect a true position of what they could have achieved, because of Lance Armstrong.