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Title: guns
Post by: bigegg on 05 February 2013, 21:52:26
US Gun Statistics
Various Sources


(A) The number of physicians in the U.S. is 700,000.
(B) Accidental deaths caused by Physicians per year are 120,000.
(C) Accidental deaths per physician is 0.171.

(Statistics courtesy of U.S. Dept. of Health Human Services)

Guns
(A) The number of gun owners in the U.S. is 80,000,000.
Yes, that is 80 million.

(B) The number of accidental gun deaths per year, all age groups, is 1,500.
(C) The number of accidental deaths per gun owner is 0.000188.

Statistically, doctors are approximately 9,000 times more dangerous than gun owners.
Remember, "Guns don't kill people, doctors do."

 :o
Title: Re: guns
Post by: symes on 05 February 2013, 22:04:20
Or Doctors with guns ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: guns
Post by: the alarming man on 05 February 2013, 22:11:24
or just nuts with guns?? :y
Title: Re: guns
Post by: Vamps on 05 February 2013, 22:13:56
It's the nuts that kill, not the gun.......  :)
Title: Re: guns
Post by: symes on 05 February 2013, 22:15:12
or just nuts with guns?? :y
Yep guns dont kill people!  people kill with guns-no need for one really -just think of all harm there would be if everyone had one :'(
Title: Re: guns
Post by: bigegg on 05 February 2013, 23:30:26
Yep guns dont kill people!  people kill with guns-no need for one really -just think of all harm there would be if everyone had one :'(

Maybe it should be compulsory for everyone to be armed (children and pacifists excepted of course).
There'd be LOTS of deaths for a few years, but then it should settle down nicely - and all the survivors are likely to be the quiet, nervous, polite sort.


Title: Re: guns
Post by: Vamps on 05 February 2013, 23:39:49
Yep guns dont kill people!  people kill with guns-no need for one really -just think of all harm there would be if everyone had one :'(

Maybe it should be compulsory for everyone to be armed (children and pacifists excepted of course).
There'd be LOTS of deaths for a few years, but then it should settle down nicely - and all the survivors are likely to be the quiet, nervous, polite sort.

Not sure about that?, although I guess eventually it would have to settle down or there would be no one left.... :-\ :-\ :-\
Title: Re: guns
Post by: Stallion on 05 February 2013, 23:44:51
It's the nuts that kill, not the gun.......  :)
+1  :y
Title: Re: guns
Post by: omega3000 on 05 February 2013, 23:47:40
I would like to move to the US one day but the gun thing really puts me off even to the point of putting off having a holiday there  :(
Title: Re: guns
Post by: kevinp58 on 06 February 2013, 00:55:19
I would like to move to the US one day but the gun thing really puts me off even to the point of putting off having a holiday there  :(
I have been to the states over 20 times to various places and never seen or heard any gun fire or people shot, you are more likely to get run over in london than get shot in the US. ;) Unless you go looking to get shot  :) :)
Title: Re: guns
Post by: cem_devecioglu on 06 February 2013, 09:21:58
US Gun Statistics
Various Sources


(A) The number of physicians in the U.S. is 700,000.
(B) Accidental deaths caused by Physicians per year are 120,000.
(C) Accidental deaths per physician is 0.171.

(Statistics courtesy of U.S. Dept. of Health Human Services)

Guns
(A) The number of gun owners in the U.S. is 80,000,000.
Yes, that is 80 million.

(B) The number of accidental gun deaths per year, all age groups, is 1,500.
(C) The number of accidental deaths per gun owner is 0.000188.

Statistically, doctors are approximately 9,000 times more dangerous than gun owners.
Remember, "Guns don't kill people, doctors do."

 :o

Biggegg please dont take it personal ,the statistics dont count number of murders,robbery,rapes with the help of guns in this count..  and non-objective.. besides doctors even with a complete failure and causing death trying to do something for their patience .. so incomparable..
 
and yes guns kill people , because they are easy to use.. if they dont exist things wont be that easy..
 
no lying statistcis can make guns innocent or lovely..
Title: Re: guns
Post by: omega3000 on 06 February 2013, 09:39:13
I would like to move to the US one day but the gun thing really puts me off even to the point of putting off having a holiday there  :(
I have been to the states over 20 times to various places and never seen or heard any gun fire or people shot, you are more likely to get run over in london than get shot in the US. ;) Unless you go looking to get shot :) :)

Its just the thought that in any given place you could be surrounded by guns hidden on people ready to use when they want to , same can be said anywhere of course but knowing how many have a gun in the US puts me off  :(
Title: Re: guns
Post by: Marks DTM Calib on 06 February 2013, 10:48:51
Lies, dam lies and statistics...
Title: Re: guns
Post by: STMO123 on 06 February 2013, 12:29:46
Lies, dam lies and statistics...
Sounds reasonable, Mark. But, as usual, skewed to suit whatever you want it to suit. It makes no mention of the number of fatalities caused deliberately with guns as opposed to doctors who murder patients.
Title: Re: guns
Post by: Abiton on 06 February 2013, 12:39:07
If I had a gun, there'd be an incredible number of car-to-car shootings in my area.  The victims would all turn out to have been misusing their foglights... 8)
Title: Re: guns
Post by: jimac on 06 February 2013, 12:46:20
I would like to move to the US one day but the gun thing really puts me off even to the point of putting off having a holiday there  :(
I have been to the states over 20 times to various places and never seen or heard any gun fire or people shot, you are more likely to get run over in london than get shot in the US. ;) Unless you go looking to get shot :) :)

Its just the thought that in any given place you could be surrounded by guns hidden on people ready to use when they want to , same can be said anywhere of course but knowing how many have a gun in the US puts me off  :(

I don't think many states allow the carrying of concealed guns - they have to be on show.  Even in cars, they need to be displayed.

Most gun owners won't be carrying their guns anyway.  Most of them will locked away in drawers and cupboards at home.
Title: Re: guns
Post by: Marks DTM Calib on 06 February 2013, 12:59:43
Lies, dam lies and statistics...
Sounds reasonable, Mark. But, as usual, skewed to suit whatever you want it to suit. It makes no mention of the number of fatalities caused deliberately with guns as opposed to doctors who murder patients.

And fundamentaly misses out the factor of how many patients a doctor sees.

A gun in the US might only be used on average once a month where as the doctor may have seen 500 patients in that time.
Title: Re: guns
Post by: cem_devecioglu on 06 February 2013, 13:12:13
Lies, dam lies and statistics...

yep.. famous phrase  :y :y
 
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lies,_damned_lies,_and_statistics (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lies,_damned_lies,_and_statistics)
Title: Re: guns
Post by: feeutfo on 06 February 2013, 13:46:40
Lies, dam lies and statistics...

yep.. famous phrase  :y :y
 
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lies,_damned_lies,_and_statistics (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lies,_damned_lies,_and_statistics)

Indeed.... :)
Title: Re: guns
Post by: kevinp58 on 06 February 2013, 15:39:58
I would like to move to the US one day but the gun thing really puts me off even to the point of putting off having a holiday there  :(
I have been to the states over 20 times to various places and never seen or heard any gun fire or people shot, you are more likely to get run over in london than get shot in the US. ;) Unless you go looking to get shot :) :)

Its just the thought that in any given place you could be surrounded by guns hidden on people ready to use when they want to , same can be said anywhere of course but knowing how many have a gun in the US puts me off  :(

I don't think many states allow the carrying of concealed guns - they have to be on show.  Even in cars, they need to be displayed.

Most gun owners won't be carrying their guns anyway.  Most of them will locked away in drawers and cupboards at home.

Sorry but most states require them to be concealed and not on show i:e in holster under jacket or the like, in carry case and in cars they should be kept in glove box or the like. In Texas and Arizona they do wear them on show, New York you are not allowed to carry.
Title: Re: guns
Post by: jimac on 07 February 2013, 13:42:26
I would like to move to the US one day but the gun thing really puts me off even to the point of putting off having a holiday there  :(
I have been to the states over 20 times to various places and never seen or heard any gun fire or people shot, you are more likely to get run over in london than get shot in the US. ;) Unless you go looking to get shot :) :)

Its just the thought that in any given place you could be surrounded by guns hidden on people ready to use when they want to , same can be said anywhere of course but knowing how many have a gun in the US puts me off  :(

I don't think many states allow the carrying of concealed guns - they have to be on show.  Even in cars, they need to be displayed.

Most gun owners won't be carrying their guns anyway.  Most of them will locked away in drawers and cupboards at home.

Sorry but most states require them to be concealed and not on show i:e in holster under jacket or the like, in carry case and in cars they should be kept in glove box or the like. In Texas and Arizona they do wear them on show, New York you are not allowed to carry.

You're probably right, but I thought a permit needed to be granted to carry a concealed weapon in most states.
Title: Re: guns
Post by: kevinp58 on 07 February 2013, 19:47:06
Yes you do need to get a permit to carry either concealed or on show.  :y
Title: Re: guns
Post by: Sir Tigger KC on 08 February 2013, 23:52:24
And the moral of the story is?  Don't have surgery in the US..  :)
Title: Re: guns
Post by: 78bex on 09 February 2013, 01:21:48
Give em guns

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1YlkKPNO2j4 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1YlkKPNO2j4)