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Title: Austerity,what austerity ?
Post by: albitz on 20 February 2013, 12:43:13
http://money.aol.co.uk/2013/02/19/why-is-council-building-a-new-home-for-mother-of-11/
Title: Re: Austerity,what austerity ?
Post by: feeutfo on 20 February 2013, 12:46:37
That was on the news 3 days ago.
Title: Re: Austerity,what austerity ?
Post by: the alarming man on 20 February 2013, 12:54:36
it was still a bloody disgrace though....whilst we have women dying from not being given acces to life saving cancer drugs most of which have worked most of their lives,we are building houses for scum that have not worked a day in their life...only forunate it cant breed any more thankfully
Title: Re: Austerity,what austerity ?
Post by: tunnie on 20 February 2013, 13:50:47
it was still a bloody disgrace though....whilst we have women dying from not being given acces to life saving cancer drugs most of which have worked most of their lives,we are building houses for scum that have not worked a day in their life...only forunate it cant breed any more thankfully

I presume you know this women personally to make such a statement?
Title: Re: Austerity,what austerity ?
Post by: the alarming man on 20 February 2013, 15:34:26
so shall i presume that you know this piece of work??...cos if you do let her in on the secret of contraception them aim this individual at the nearest job centre
Title: Re: Austerity,what austerity ?
Post by: feeutfo on 20 February 2013, 16:24:49
so shall i presume that you know this piece of work??...cos if you do let her in on the secret of contraception them aim this individual at the nearest job centre
Well you may as well, you presume everything else. ;D ;)
Title: Re: Austerity,what austerity ?
Post by: bored bigyin54 on 20 February 2013, 16:26:36
it was still a bloody disgrace though....whilst we have women dying from not being given acces to life saving cancer drugs most of which have worked most of their lives,we are building houses for scum that have not worked a day in their life...only forunate it cant breed any more thankfully
:y :y :y
Title: Re: Austerity,what austerity ?
Post by: the alarming man on 20 February 2013, 20:13:29
so shall i presume that you know this piece of work??...cos if you do let her in on the secret of contraception them aim this individual at the nearest job centre
Well you may as well, you presume everything else. ;D ;)


EXPLAIN

 
Title: Re: Austerity,what austerity ?
Post by: STMO123 on 20 February 2013, 20:20:56
She is on the front page of my bro's comic (The sun) today. Apparently she has a horse.
Title: Re: Austerity,what austerity ?
Post by: albitz on 20 February 2013, 20:24:44
A pikey then. :D ;D
Title: Re: Austerity,what austerity ?
Post by: STMO123 on 20 February 2013, 20:25:55
A pikey then. :D ;D
Obviously.
I've stopped ignoring you now. I realise it will take a lot more than that to get you to do any work.
Title: Re: Austerity,what austerity ?
Post by: the alarming man on 20 February 2013, 20:38:27
she wants 2 more horses as well
Title: Re: Austerity,what austerity ?
Post by: STMO123 on 20 February 2013, 20:39:19
[quote auth:-) or=the alarming man link=topic=112309.msg1414899#msg1414899 date=1361392707]
she wants 2 more horses as well
[/quote]
She's starting a fast-food business. ;D
Title: Re: Austerity,what austerity ?
Post by: the alarming man on 20 February 2013, 20:42:01
nope she started that with the first of 11 children
Title: Re: Austerity,what austerity ?
Post by: JamesV6CDX on 20 February 2013, 20:48:13
I'm not going to resort to calling the woman derogatory names, but you have to question why she would make a concious decision to have such a HUGE amount of kids knowing full well they were not in any financial position to do so. You don't have eleven kids by accident, and, I'm sure in her position she would have been entitled to free contraception.


Title: Re: Austerity,what austerity ?
Post by: ted_one on 20 February 2013, 20:56:49
All of this makes my one brain cell hurt and I rather make it hurt with lager,no point in thinking about because there's nothing I can do about it ::)
Title: Re: Austerity,what austerity ?
Post by: Sir Tigger KC on 20 February 2013, 22:11:22
What about the father or fathers? No mention of him/them?  ::)
Title: Re: Austerity,what austerity ?
Post by: feeutfo on 20 February 2013, 22:54:54
so shall i presume that you know this piece of work??...cos if you do let her in on the secret of contraception them aim this individual at the nearest job centre
Well you may as well, you presume everything else. ;D ;)


EXPLAIN

 

I beg your pardon? There's people on the other side of the Internet that didn't quite hear that..? :)
Title: Re: Austerity,what austerity ?
Post by: dbug on 21 February 2013, 00:22:46
I'm not going to resort to calling the woman derogatory names, but you have to question why she would make a concious decision to have such a HUGE amount of kids knowing full well they were not in any financial position to do so. You don't have eleven kids by accident, and, I'm sure in her position she would have been entitled to free contraception.

Nympho or no TV  ::)
Title: Re: Austerity,what austerity ?
Post by: the alarming man on 21 February 2013, 07:48:49
so shall i presume that you know this piece of work??...cos if you do let her in on the secret of contraception them aim this individual at the nearest job centre
Well you may as well, you presume everything else. ;D ;)


EXPLAIN

 

I beg your pardon? There's people on the other side of the Internet that didn't quite hear that..? :)


as i told you EXPLAIN if you want to make a comment like that towards me on here you need to be big enough to EXPLAIN YOURSELF
Title: Re: Austerity,what austerity ?
Post by: feeutfo on 21 February 2013, 08:31:05
so shall i presume that you know this piece of work??...cos if you do let her in on the secret of contraception them aim this individual at the nearest job centre
Well you may as well, you presume everything else. ;D ;)


EXPLAIN

 

I beg your pardon? There's people on the other side of the Internet that didn't quite hear that..? :)


as i told you EXPLAIN if you want to make a comment like that towards me on here you need to be big enough to EXPLAIN YOURSELF
Ooooh, this is an interesting one, now, what to do?
If I explain, I'll be accepting being shouted at by an exceptionally rude individual. And not being one to be told what to do, I am tempted to refuse point blank.

But on the other hand, I also like to win an argument, and make the point.

On the other hand, admin won't appreciate another bickering pointless handbags at dawn.


Hmmm...?


I think on balance, as theres no point to a non story anyway, I'll leave you to read it how you want to read it, and work it out for yourself. ;)


Well done though, you had me fuddled for a second. ;D :y
Title: Re: Austerity,what austerity ?
Post by: STMO123 on 21 February 2013, 08:49:25
You're a troublemaker, Gixer, and I'm sure this has not gone unnoticed.  :-X
Title: Re: Austerity,what austerity ?
Post by: ted_one on 21 February 2013, 09:02:16
I don't really want to kick the backside out of this topic but I just get the feeling that there are sections of our society that get life handed to them on a plate i.e in this case..a brand new purpose built house and £38.000 in benefits,then there's the other end of the spectrum where the rest of us get treated like we're shite on the establishments shoes and we have to get on with it. Christ is a good thing that I know my place in the scheme of things...oooh!! what's that smell? it's O.K  its only me :o ;D
Title: Re: Austerity,what austerity ?
Post by: feeutfo on 21 February 2013, 09:46:01
You're a troublemaker, Gixer, and I'm sure this has not gone unnoticed.  :-X
Shadap you! ;D
Title: Re: Austerity,what austerity ?
Post by: the alarming man on 21 February 2013, 12:02:19
You're a troublemaker, Gixer, and I'm sure this has not gone unnoticed.  :-X

it would seem stemo it may have been noticed but nothing happens...all i see is i am told by a very nasty individual i am rude and he can make claims about me and he don't know me (because if he did he would'nt be so foolish)...this is why this forum is going down the tubes and this individual is the main  problem

Title: Re: Austerity,what austerity ?
Post by: STMO123 on 21 February 2013, 12:40:12
You're a troublemaker, Gixer, and I'm sure this has not gone unnoticed.  :-X

it would seem stemo it may have been noticed but nothing happens...all i see is i am told by a very nasty individual i am rude and he can make claims about me and he don't know me (because if he did he would'nt be so foolish)...this is why this forum is going down the tubes and this individual is the main  problem
I'm sure fatty the admins are keeping an eye on him.
Title: Re: Austerity,what austerity ?
Post by: Marks DTM Calib on 21 February 2013, 12:59:13
Shes clearly a very laid back person......shes been lying on her back often enough!

I do despair to be honest, it still grates how hard the majority work to provide a good life for the minority
Title: Re: Austerity,what austerity ?
Post by: feeutfo on 21 February 2013, 13:24:31
You're a troublemaker, Gixer, and I'm sure this has not gone unnoticed.  :-X

it would seem stemo it may have been noticed but nothing happens...all i see is i am told by a very nasty individual i am rude and he can make claims about me and he don't know me (because if he did he would'nt be so foolish)...this is why this forum is going down the tubes and this individual is the main  problem
I'm sure fatty the admins are keeping an eye on him.

Yeah, nasty men. :(
Title: Re: Austerity,what austerity ?
Post by: feeutfo on 21 February 2013, 13:27:35
Thing is, the house isn't for the mother so much. It's for the family resulting from. What's the Alternative? Out on the streets for 11 human beings?



Title: Re: Austerity,what austerity ?
Post by: Marks DTM Calib on 21 February 2013, 13:32:25
Thing is, the house isn't for the mother so much. It's for the family resulting from. What's the Alternative? Out on the streets for 11 human beings?

She stays where she is and she plus the (Potentialy many) father(s) are sterilised......

Then confiscate the sofa and fit some additional windows in the party wall
Title: Re: Austerity,what austerity ?
Post by: cleggy on 21 February 2013, 13:43:41
Thing is, the house isn't for the mother so much. It's for the family resulting from. What's the Alternative? Out on the streets for 11 human beings?

She stays where she is and she plus the (Potentialy many) father(s) are sterilised......

Then confiscate the sofa and fit some additional windows in the party wall

Plus her brood :y :y

It is like the Womb for Benefits next door but one, 5 kids three fathers none to be seen having expensive TV's, games machines, IPads, dining room furniture delivered. Why did we contribute all those years for this, and SWMBO can't retire for four extra years >:( 
Title: Re: Austerity,what austerity ?
Post by: Marks DTM Calib on 21 February 2013, 13:57:36
Er indoors works at a primary school in Wilford which has many children from over the river.

Many dont speak English, the kids often arrive having had no breakfast plus they have no respect and many cant even eat properly with a knife and fork!. Yet the parents sit outside in cars, smoking, designer cloths, trainers.....plus they have lots of kids and a house.

When they talk to the parents regarding behaviour responses such as 'thats your job to teach them that' are not uncommon.
Title: Re: Austerity,what austerity ?
Post by: Kevin Wood on 21 February 2013, 14:12:19
The issue, in my mind, is that, for people on benefits, there appear to be no financial consequences of having children. You simply have as many as you like and the state pays you to look after them.

That is unfair, IMHO, because, back in the real world, where most of us live, there are very real financial consequences to face when considering starting a family, let alone having this many offspring. Feeding and clothing kids is expensive, giving up work to look after them is expensive, providing childcare if you don't give up work is expensive, and providing accommodation for them to live in is expensive, etc.. etc...

I know nothing about this particular lady's position so I'm not going to comment on what might be a load of trumped-up journalistic nonsense, but I know what sacrifices I'd have to make if Mrs. KW and I wanted to support 11 children, and I wonder what sacrifices she's made, especially as a single mother?

I also wonder if her actually ever finding work which will pay for childcare, accommodation, food, etc. for her children is possible? If not, surely the benefits system has put her in a position that has left her permanently living off taxpayer's money?
Title: Re: Austerity,what austerity ?
Post by: feeutfo on 21 February 2013, 14:43:47
Indeed. As Kev so elequently puts it.

The personal situation of the individual involved is not up for questioning, lynching, insulting etc. how many times have we seen sensationalised journalism and bad reporting inspiring real bad feeling and worse. Who is worsed after all? The witch or the witch hunt?
 
The rules however, may well need re evaluation. I wonder, is each case taken on an individual basis? Does vamps have an insight? Perhaps?


Title: Re: Austerity,what austerity ?
Post by: cleggy on 21 February 2013, 16:12:43
Indeed. As Kev so elequently puts it.

The personal situation of the individual involved is not up for questioning, lynching, insulting etc. how many times have we seen sensationalised journalism and bad reporting inspiring real bad feeling and worse. Who is worsed after all? The witch or the witch hunt?
 
The rules however, may well need re evaluation. I wonder, is each case taken on an individual basis? Does vamps have an insight? Perhaps?

One thing is for sure they certainly play the system to their full advantage  >:( >:( >:(
Title: Re: Austerity,what austerity ?
Post by: feeutfo on 21 February 2013, 16:18:41
Indeed. As Kev so elequently puts it.

The personal situation of the individual involved is not up for questioning, lynching, insulting etc. how many times have we seen sensationalised journalism and bad reporting inspiring real bad feeling and worse. Who is worsed after all? The witch or the witch hunt?
 
The rules however, may well need re evaluation. I wonder, is each case taken on an individual basis? Does vamps have an insight? Perhaps?

One thing is for sure they certainly play the system to their full advantage  >:( >:( >:(
It seems to me that the system might be more to do with it, perhaps.
Title: Re: Austerity,what austerity ?
Post by: Terbs on 21 February 2013, 18:23:28
Whatever 'system' you try to put in place will never work.....
Think about it.......in the first instance....how do you stop her having children....'forced steralisation'  definate no go area
So she has the kids.....put her on the streets to live....what about the children, they did not ask to be born.
Give her a council house, but no benefits....so they all starve ????? She knows that however many kids she has, she will be benefitted to the hilt.
Take the kids away.....a massive outcry would ensue from the do-good element....again a no go area. Kids would still have to be fed and homed, etc.

The plain fact of the matter is, there is no answer, at least not one that the do good society would accept. Its a sad fact of life that if you have the 'bugger to all and sundry' attitude, refuse to work, have kids by how ever many fathers, you will be paid for by the state, you will get a house, and you will be fed, you will not pay anything in return, and so you go on till you die......and there is absolutely nothing that can be done about it. :(
Title: Re: Austerity,what austerity ?
Post by: cleggy on 21 February 2013, 18:27:08
Whatever 'system' you try to put in place will never work.....
Think about it.......in the first instance....how do you stop her having children....'forced steralisation'  definate no go area
So she has the kids.....put her on the streets to live....what about the children, they did not ask to be born.
Give her a council house, but no benefits....so they all starve ????? She knows that however many kids she has, she will be benefitted to the hilt.
Take the kids away.....a massive outcry would ensue from the do-good element....again a no go area. Kids would still have to be fed and homed, etc.

The plain fact of the matter is, there is no answer, at least not one that the do good society would accept. Its a sad fact of life that if you have the 'bugger to all and sundry' attitude, refuse to work, have kids by how ever many fathers, you will be paid for by the state, you will get a house, and you will be fed, you will not pay anything in return, and so you go on till you die......and there is absolutely nothing that can be done about it. :(

No benefits for more than two kids end off :y :y
If they know that they may stop breeding >:( >:( >:(
Title: Re: Austerity,what austerity ?
Post by: Kevin Wood on 21 February 2013, 18:33:43
Indeed. As Kev so elequently puts it.

The personal situation of the individual involved is not up for questioning, lynching, insulting etc. how many times have we seen sensationalised journalism and bad reporting inspiring real bad feeling and worse. Who is worsed after all? The witch or the witch hunt?
 
The rules however, may well need re evaluation. I wonder, is each case taken on an individual basis? Does vamps have an insight? Perhaps?

One thing is for sure they certainly play the system to their full advantage  >:( >:( >:(
It seems to me that the system might be more to do with it, perhaps.

Exactly. How many Omegas VXR8s would you have if tyres, petrol and road tax were free from the government? So, this woman's "thing" is having kids, and she's in a position where, when they outgrow the current house, someone builds her a new one (as said, though, expect a lot of journalistic bullshit licence with this story). Can't really blame her, TBH, she's in a position where she can do her "thing" to excess without any personal consequence.
Title: Re: Austerity,what austerity ?
Post by: Terbs on 21 February 2013, 18:43:34
Whatever 'system' you try to put in place will never work.....
Think about it.......in the first instance....how do you stop her having children....'forced steralisation'  definate no go area
So she has the kids.....put her on the streets to live....what about the children, they did not ask to be born.
Give her a council house, but no benefits....so they all starve ????? She knows that however many kids she has, she will be benefitted to the hilt.
Take the kids away.....a massive outcry would ensue from the do-good element....again a no go area. Kids would still have to be fed and homed, etc.

The plain fact of the matter is, there is no answer, at least not one that the do good society would accept. Its a sad fact of life that if you have the 'bugger to all and sundry' attitude, refuse to work, have kids by how ever many fathers, you will be paid for by the state, you will get a house, and you will be fed, you will not pay anything in return, and so you go on till you die......and there is absolutely nothing that can be done about it. :(

No benefits for more than two kids end off :y :y
If they know that they may stop breeding >:( >:( >:(

If only it was as easy as that mate :(  Ok, so a single mother has a third kid....so you stop benefits....what happens then. Is the third child taken away ???? It just would not happen, Cleggy.....the state will always give in and recompense. These sort of people will always win.
Title: Re: Austerity,what austerity ?
Post by: feeutfo on 21 February 2013, 18:52:20
Indeed. As Kev so elequently puts it.

The personal situation of the individual involved is not up for questioning, lynching, insulting etc. how many times have we seen sensationalised journalism and bad reporting inspiring real bad feeling and worse. Who is worsed after all? The witch or the witch hunt?
 
The rules however, may well need re evaluation. I wonder, is each case taken on an individual basis? Does vamps have an insight? Perhaps?

One thing is for sure they certainly play the system to their full advantage  >:( >:( >:(
It seems to me that the system might be more to do with it, perhaps.

Exactly. How many Omegas VXR8s would you have if tyres, petrol and road tax were free from the government? So, this woman's "thing" is having kids, and she's in a position where, when they outgrow the current house, someone builds her a new one (as said, though, expect a lot of journalistic bullshit licence with this story). Can't really blame her, TBH, she's in a position where she can do her "thing" to excess without any personal consequence.
Oh I'd be a right hore. ;D
Title: Re: Austerity,what austerity ?
Post by: Terbs on 21 February 2013, 19:00:46
Indeed. As Kev so elequently puts it.

The personal situation of the individual involved is not up for questioning, lynching, insulting etc. how many times have we seen sensationalised journalism and bad reporting inspiring real bad feeling and worse. Who is worsed after all? The witch or the witch hunt?
 
The rules however, may well need re evaluation. I wonder, is each case taken on an individual basis? Does vamps have an insight? Perhaps?

One thing is for sure they certainly play the system to their full advantage  >:( >:( >:(
It seems to me that the system might be more to do with it, perhaps.

Exactly. How many Omegas VXR8s would you have if tyres, petrol and road tax were free from the government? So, this woman's "thing" is having kids, and she's in a position where, when they outgrow the current house, someone builds her a new one (as said, though, expect a lot of journalistic bullshit licence with this story). Can't really blame her, TBH, she's in a position where she can do her "thing" to excess without any personal consequence.
Oh I'd be a right hore. ;D

Luv you poppet ;)
Title: Re: Austerity,what austerity ?
Post by: feeutfo on 21 February 2013, 19:04:21
Indeed. As Kev so elequently puts it.

The personal situation of the individual involved is not up for questioning, lynching, insulting etc. how many times have we seen sensationalised journalism and bad reporting inspiring real bad feeling and worse. Who is worsed after all? The witch or the witch hunt?
 
The rules however, may well need re evaluation. I wonder, is each case taken on an individual basis? Does vamps have an insight? Perhaps?

One thing is for sure they certainly play the system to their full advantage  >:( >:( >:(
It seems to me that the system might be more to do with it, perhaps.

Exactly. How many Omegas VXR8s would you have if tyres, petrol and road tax were free from the government? So, this woman's "thing" is having kids, and she's in a position where, when they outgrow the current house, someone builds her a new one (as said, though, expect a lot of journalistic bullshit licence with this story). Can't really blame her, TBH, she's in a position where she can do her "thing" to excess without any personal consequence.
Oh I'd be a right hore. ;D

Luv you poppet ;)
Ooh look I'm all popular again.  :-*   :D    :y
Title: Re: Austerity,what austerity ?
Post by: Entwood on 27 February 2013, 12:36:30
Of course there's austerity .... has to be as we have no money ....

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2284673/World-War-Two-heros-family-forced-sell-medals-pay-heros-care-home-fees.html


so she gets a £400,000 house .. he has to sell his belongings ......

Just where is the fairness ??

Reaches for Blood Pressure Tablets ... :(
Title: Re: Austerity,what austerity ?
Post by: tunnie on 27 February 2013, 12:43:52
Reading that original article though, its not one 400k house. Its two separate 200k houses with a joining walk/way door that will be removed once she dies of an STI  moves on.

So bit of media hype here yet again, if you ask me.

Title: Re: Austerity,what austerity ?
Post by: albitz on 27 February 2013, 12:51:49
Thats where she curently lives Tunnie.They have built a big new house for her and her kids to live in,so they dont have to live in two adjoining properties.She has apparently said if the new house isnt big enough they will just have to build her a bigger one.
I read an interview a few days after that where her own father said he is ashamed of her.
Meanwhile,the old fella in the article Entwood linked to,fought bravely,valiantly,above and beyond the call of duty for his beloved country,and now that he has outlived his usefulness we leave him to fend for himself. Something has gone very badly wrong imo.
We,as a country are supposed to have a covenant with our armed forces,whereby we take care of them after they have risked their lives to keep us safe. Imo we have torn that up and thrown it away.
We will regret it at some point in the future.
Title: Re: Austerity,what austerity ?
Post by: tunnie on 27 February 2013, 12:53:54
Apologies, miss read the article  :-[

Title: Re: Austerity,what austerity ?
Post by: Terbs on 27 February 2013, 13:12:25
Thats where she curently lives Tunnie.They have built a big new house for her and her kids to live in,so they dont have to live in two adjoining properties.She has apparently said if the new house isnt big enough they will just have to build her a bigger one.
I read an interview a few days after that where her own father said he is ashamed of her.
Meanwhile,the old fella in the article Entwood linked to,fought bravely,valiantly,above and beyond the call of duty for his beloved country,and now that he has outlived his usefulness we leave him to fend for himself. Something has gone very badly wrong imo.
We,as a country are supposed to have a covenant with our armed forces,whereby we take care of them after they have risked their lives to keep us safe. Imo we have torn that up and thrown it away.
We will regret it at some point in the future.

As I have mentioned in other posts....the same applies to my mother. Joined the forces at the outbreak of war, much to her parents dislike. But as my grandfather was shot and wounded in the first war, my mother wanted to 'take revenge' for him. She was stationed in London, throughout the war, survived 'The Blitz', etc.....but as Albitz says, she has outlived her usefullness and does not now exist. Once my mother (92) is dead and buried, they will give her a medal !!!!!!!!!!!!
I find the treatment of ex forces personell contemptious........but we honour sluts that have umpteen kids by different fathers and give them a better life than normal hardworking people >:(