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Title: Oh booger.....
Post by: hotel21 on 22 February 2013, 20:26:00
The trusty steed has been sidelined pretty much for the past couple of months with only the occasional airing to keep things ticking over. Today was one such day.

Got a couple of suspicious little misfire/not happy hiccups on the way home from work and eventually threw the management light on after several flashes.

Car idles like a bag of spanners in a washing machine and quite down on power.

Did the pedal trick when I first got in and got 304. Just confirmed it by plugging the box of tricks.

Not lifted the bonnet yet but it looks like watching the rugby on the telly may get sidelined.

Ho Hum!!   :(
Title: Re: Oh booger.....
Post by: Abiton on 22 February 2013, 20:40:51
Has it been (kept) out in the weather, or under cover?
Title: Re: Oh booger.....
Post by: Andy B on 22 February 2013, 20:43:59
....
Not lifted the bonnet yet but it looks like watching the rugby on the telly may get sidelined.

Ho Hum!!   :(

Never do today what you can put off till tomorrow  ::) ::)
Title: Re: Oh booger.....
Post by: feeutfo on 22 February 2013, 20:51:46
Leaky scuttle? Scuttle foam wet?  ...questions for tomorrow. :)
Title: Re: Oh booger.....
Post by: hotel21 on 22 February 2013, 20:56:42
Leaky scuttle? Scuttle foam wet?  ...questions for tomorrow. :)

3.2 so no dispac as such...
Title: Re: Oh booger.....
Post by: hotel21 on 22 February 2013, 20:58:14
Has it been (kept) out in the weather, or under cover?
Outside, getting best benefit of what the good Lord decides to launch upon it.

 ;)

Title: Re: Oh booger.....
Post by: hotel21 on 22 February 2013, 21:01:22
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Not lifted the bonnet yet but it looks like watching the rugby on the telly may get sidelined.

Ho Hum!!   :(

Never do today what you can put off till tomorrow  ::) ::)

Good job I have the Disco for day to day then!   ;D
Title: Re: Oh booger.....
Post by: Andy B on 22 February 2013, 21:04:16
.....
 .... getting best benefit of what the good Lord decides to launch upon it.

 ;)

I remember winters in Fife!! Brrrrrrrrr!  ::) ;D ;D
Title: Re: Oh booger.....
Post by: feeutfo on 22 February 2013, 21:10:27
Leaky scuttle? Scuttle foam wet?  ...questions for tomorrow. :)

3.2 so no dispac as such...
Aeye, water lands on pot 6 of pas coil PAC and runs back and forth along until it either evaporates or sinks into the plug wells past the cp seal.

Drivers side favourite is the wiper spindle directly above pot 5.

Just one to look for. :)
Title: Re: Oh booger.....
Post by: feeutfo on 22 February 2013, 21:11:12
A test with a hose on the screen reveals all. :)
Title: Re: Oh booger.....
Post by: hotel21 on 22 February 2013, 21:14:17
Will have a play tomorrow.

Mebbe.....   :D
Title: Re: Oh booger.....
Post by: TheBoy on 23 February 2013, 11:01:26
It would be awkward side ;D

Unclip top off wiring tray (its brittle, be careful), remove wiring tray.
Remove oil filler neck, and then put yellow cap directly on cam cover. Stops shite getting in engine.
You may need to undo vac from plenum - no usually necessary.
2 bolts hold CP in place, remove.
Unplug connector at rear of CP.
To remove CP, screw in 2 plenum bolts about 5 turns, and pull up on these bolts.

Refit is reverse...  ...though I never refitted cable tray, so I can change plugs that side in 15mins (remember I have LPG shite in the way as well)

About 30mins, fiddly bit is unclipping cable tray.
Title: Re: Oh booger.....
Post by: TheBoy on 23 February 2013, 11:02:36
though before you do, what is Long Term Trim, Bank 2 reading? Should be approx 0%
Title: Re: Oh booger.....
Post by: hotel21 on 23 February 2013, 11:25:59
Both trims both banks were 0. Not going to do anything to it this weekend due to the rugby, lack of replacement parts and availability of the disco as the daily driver.

I know, lazy shiyte...     ;D
Title: Re: Oh booger.....
Post by: TheBoy on 23 February 2013, 11:37:01
Both trims both banks were 0. Not going to do anything to it this weekend due to the rugby, lack of replacement parts and availability of the disco as the daily driver.

I know, lazy shiyte...     ;D
Thats no excuse, as you don't know what you need yet ;D
Title: Re: Oh booger.....
Post by: car5car on 23 February 2013, 19:34:25
Is it legal to carry a sword in Scotland? Like this one. :y
http://www.coldsteel.com/Product/88SB/SCOTTISH_BROADSWORD.aspx
Title: Re: Oh booger.....
Post by: hotel21 on 23 February 2013, 21:22:42
Is it legal to carry a sword in Scotland? Like this one. :y
http://www.coldsteel.com/Product/88SB/SCOTTISH_BROADSWORD.aspx

On open view, no.
Title: Re: Oh booger.....
Post by: feeutfo on 23 February 2013, 22:06:06
Is it legal to carry a sword in Scotland? Like this one. :y
http://www.coldsteel.com/Product/88SB/SCOTTISH_BROADSWORD.aspx

On open view, no.

And hidden?  Not down MY trouser leg, thankyou very much. ;D
Title: Re: Oh booger.....
Post by: hotel21 on 03 March 2013, 19:54:12
Did the 2,4,6 coilpack and plugs today (thanks AndyC for price and prompt delivery) and this is what met me when I stripped it out.

(http://i83.photobucket.com/albums/j298/hotel21/IMG_0358_zps8b812bf7.jpg)

Strange that it was plug 2 that was very wet whilst plug 4 was the fault code that was thrown up.  There was a bit of rubber missing from the end of the 4 dispac connector but that shouldnt make much odds.

Changed the 1,3,5 plugs sinch the bonnet was up (foolish not too) and it looks like only time until that goes tits up as well.

codes removed, now running sweet as a nut again.

 :y

Title: Re: Oh booger.....
Post by: feeutfo on 03 March 2013, 19:57:26
Ahhh ye old leaky scuttle. Scuttle foam wet? Seal still clamped tight to the windscreen?
Title: Re: Oh booger.....
Post by: hotel21 on 03 March 2013, 20:00:32
Ahhh ye old leaky scuttle. Scuttle foam wet? Seal still clamped tight to the windscreen?

Scuttle foam dry as the proverbial witches tit.  Screen seal seems fine as well so I put it down to infrequent use of late such that the water that does leak through is not getting hot enough to dry off, albeit that its supposedly sealed from the elements.

That said, if water gets in then it can surely evaporate out?   :-\
Title: Re: Oh booger.....
Post by: Entwood on 03 March 2013, 20:10:55
Ahhh ye old leaky scuttle. Scuttle foam wet? Seal still clamped tight to the windscreen?

Scuttle foam dry as the proverbial witches tit.  Screen seal seems fine as well so I put it down to infrequent use of late such that the water that does leak through is not getting hot enough to dry off, albeit that its supposedly sealed from the elements.

That said, if water gets in then it can surely evaporate out?   :-\

Heat is needed for evaporation to occur (Latent heat of evaporation) ... given the engine mass is cold if not run, there is little energy available for evaporation to occur under normal conditions ... it has been very wet and cold recently which means more water and less heat for evaporation to occur ..
Title: Re: Oh booger.....
Post by: hotel21 on 03 March 2013, 20:22:47
Ahhh ye old leaky scuttle. Scuttle foam wet? Seal still clamped tight to the windscreen?

Scuttle foam dry as the proverbial witches tit.  Screen seal seems fine as well so I put it down to infrequent use of late such that the water that does leak through is not getting hot enough to dry off, albeit that its supposedly sealed from the elements.

That said, if water gets in then it can surely evaporate out?   :-\

Heat is needed for evaporation to occur (Latent heat of evaporation) ... given the engine mass is cold if not run, there is little energy available for evaporation to occur under normal conditions ... it has been very wet and cold recently which means more water and less heat for evaporation to occur ..

Yup, aware of that Nige.  Its because car has had infrequent use as stated initially.  Water gets in quicker than I can boil it out. :)
Title: Re: Oh booger.....
Post by: 05omegav6 on 03 March 2013, 23:11:25
Might be worth replacing the plug rubber in order to keep any moisture away from the wiring :y
Title: Re: Oh booger.....
Post by: feeutfo on 03 March 2013, 23:31:41
I run a bead of silicon or similar along the top of the metal scuttle drain, where the joun in the two scuttle halves is. Need to remove that useless foam draft excluder stuff vx use first though.

As said a test with a hose on the screen will show the leaks.


...if that helps. :)
Title: Re: Oh booger.....
Post by: Kevin Wood on 04 March 2013, 10:12:33
Problem is, once the moisture gets under the coil pack there is nowhere for it to go once it starts to evaporate, so the problem often occurs once the engine gets hot. The water starts to evaporate and then finds its' way under any rubbers that aren't perfect and shorts the HT to ground. I suspect this is why it was no. 4 that was misfiring.

Mine is getting a bit grumpy after a cold start when it's been damp, so will have to have a look at it.