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Title: mv6 turbo
Post by: djhorner on 24 February 2013, 12:45:22
was just thinking how hard is it to turbo charge 3ltr v6
Title: Re: mv6 turbo
Post by: tunnie on 24 February 2013, 12:55:16
Hard  ;D

From what I hear, cooling is the big issue. Very, very few have been done.
Title: Re: mv6 turbo
Post by: feeutfo on 24 February 2013, 12:59:06
And not worth the agro. Bottom end can't cope with much more than 50bhp over stock.
Title: Re: mv6 turbo
Post by: kevinp58 on 24 February 2013, 13:06:51
there is a thread here somewhere somebody from eastern europe posted some photo's of a turbo'd 3.2 it munched the gearbox I believe it is in the picture section  :-\ as Tunnie says a hell of a lot of work
Title: Re: mv6 turbo
Post by: djhorner on 24 February 2013, 13:07:13
damn worth a try
Title: Re: mv6 turbo
Post by: TheBoy on 24 February 2013, 13:54:47
Those useless retards at Courtney Sport used to do one for the 3.0l.  I've seen 2, both with a shagged bottom end, knocking like an Avon lady.
Title: Re: mv6 turbo
Post by: cem_devecioglu on 24 February 2013, 16:53:39
not impossible.. but not as easy as bolt on turbo and off you go..
 
new stronger bottom end, forged pistons (c20let pistons match) ) ,intercooler,  turbo, downpipes, low temperature thermostat, high flow injectors, custom ecu, mapping ,  different coolant pumps ( ??? ), bigger radiator..
 
nearly you built the car from scratch ;D  so you need a fat bank account.. or you drop another engine in..
 
dont know they choose the re-built option :-\  but it goes..
http://www.migweb.co.uk/forums/projects-restorations/489705-astra-mk3-x25xe-turbo-quattro-2.html (http://www.migweb.co.uk/forums/projects-restorations/489705-astra-mk3-x25xe-turbo-quattro-2.html)
Title: Re: mv6 turbo
Post by: feeutfo on 24 February 2013, 16:59:20
not impossible.. but not as easy as bolt on turbo and off you go..
 
new stronger bottom end, forged pistons (c20let pistons match) ) ,intercooler,  turbo, downpipes, low temperature thermostat, high flow injectors, custom ecu, mapping ,  different coolant pumps (???), bigger radiator..
 
nearly you built the car from scratch ;D  so you need a fat bank account.. or you drop another engine in..
Gm v8 :y
Title: Re: mv6 turbo
Post by: TheBoy on 24 February 2013, 17:09:42
not impossible..
Indeed, its possible with sufficient money and resources.  But more cost effective to go out and buy a VXR8, which will be more powerful to start with, and offer scope for much further tweaking.
Title: Re: mv6 turbo
Post by: GastronomicKleptomaniac on 24 February 2013, 18:56:34
One of these days I will find out if a 2.3 Saab turbo will mate with the Omega gearbox. I may have to suspend it with bungee straps, owing to my distinct lack of engine mount fabricating equipment...
Title: Re: mv6 turbo
Post by: 2woody on 24 February 2013, 22:31:26
yes it will.....
Title: Re: mv6 turbo
Post by: serek on 25 February 2013, 00:25:12
One of these days I will find out if a 2.3 Saab turbo will mate with the Omega gearbox. I may have to suspend it with bungee straps, owing to my distinct lack of engine mount fabricating equipment...
R25 or any other  just straight bolt on to saab engine
Title: Re: mv6 turbo
Post by: omega3000 on 25 February 2013, 10:44:47
 :)


  (http://i210.photobucket.com/albums/bb174/No-kia/Omega/IMG_0111.jpg)
Title: Re: mv6 turbo
Post by: tunnie on 25 February 2013, 11:28:51
All that faf to put a Turbo on and its using a cone filter  ::)
Title: Re: mv6 turbo
Post by: cem_devecioglu on 25 February 2013, 11:36:03
:)


  (http://i210.photobucket.com/albums/bb174/No-kia/Omega/IMG_0111.jpg)

EMD , most turbo installations I have seen on the net is around 0.4, 0.5 bar because of cooling and bottom end fears/problems.. Imo, these installations dont use the full potential of turbo..
 
After a bit of search , I learned that some steel companies here produce custom forged pistons and related stuff for reasonable money ("relatively") ..  But I'm not sure that with UK car prices it is feasible to do a full turbo conversion.. except some low pressure applications where engine is kept as it is..
 
 
 
Title: Re: mv6 turbo
Post by: cem_devecioglu on 25 February 2013, 11:37:38
but if  someone does a complete job, I'll be very glad to see the implementation.. :)
Title: Re: mv6 turbo
Post by: GastronomicKleptomaniac on 25 February 2013, 17:59:59
yes it will.....

In that case, I need to start saving.  :y
Title: Re: mv6 turbo
Post by: 2woody on 26 February 2013, 22:18:09
to clarify.....

the later Saab 2.3 was modified so that its bellhousing pattern was the same as the GM "Family II" engine, which includes the Omega B 54-degree V6.

so yes, it will fit any Omega B gearbox except the BMW diesel.

For reference, these Getrag gearboxes are immensely strong - fitted to many larger and more powerful vehicles than Omega B.

but of course its still only a four-cylinder. There's something very wrong about taking out a six-cylinder and replacing it with a four-pot - even if it is a 500 horsepower one.
Title: Re: mv6 turbo
Post by: 05omegav6 on 27 February 2013, 02:44:13
For reference, these Getrag gearboxes are immensely strong - fitted to many larger and more powerful vehicles than Omega B. 8)

but of course its still only a four-cylinder. There's something very wrong about taking out a six-cylinder and replacing it with a four-pot - even if it is a 500 horsepower one.

Indeed, and judging from the pics, without the bagpipes, there's room for at least 2 more cylinders ::)
Title: Re: mv6 turbo
Post by: 460coupe on 08 March 2013, 00:01:22
There is cheapest option is the 350 chevy, GM built them with the LS1, 350 probably cheaper in the long run and reliable as the day is long.........infinitely tuneable
Title: Re: mv6 turbo
Post by: omega3000 on 08 March 2013, 08:57:37
Whats the hosepipe up near the bulkhead  :-\
Title: Re: mv6 turbo
Post by: doz on 08 March 2013, 09:09:51
Whats the hosepipe up near the bulkhead  :-\

I'm gonna stick mt neck out and say engine breather