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Omega Help Area => Omega General Help => Topic started by: paolodiddy on 22 May 2013, 16:17:01

Title: engine transplant options...
Post by: paolodiddy on 22 May 2013, 16:17:01
as the topic suggessts, im looking at a engine transplant, ive a 02 omega, 3.2 v6, its letting in water in the rocker cover gaskey, think im down to 4 cylinders too, i was thinking of putting a smaller engine in, was wondering what fits, the car is a work horse so i want to have a bit of torque without the hugh fuel consumption!
 any recommendations or does anyone have an engine for sale even?!

its the manual 5 speed , ideas and options please?!
Title: Re: engine transplant options...
Post by: Darth Loo-knee on 22 May 2013, 20:38:21
Why not sort out the problem?  Forgive me for saying but why buy a V6 3.2 engined car if your after MPG? :)
Title: Re: engine transplant options...
Post by: Mr.OmegaMan on 22 May 2013, 20:45:27
as the topic suggessts, im looking at a engine transplant, ive a 02 omega, 3.2 v6, its letting in water in the rocker cover gaskey, think im down to 4 cylinders too, i was thinking of putting a smaller engine in, was wondering what fits, the car is a work horse so i want to have a bit of torque without the hugh fuel consumption!
 any recommendations or does anyone have an engine for sale even?!

its the manual 5 speed , ideas and options please?!
Ex-Police or a Auto to Manual conversion Omega ?
Title: Re: engine transplant options...
Post by: 05omegav6 on 22 May 2013, 21:53:08
as the topic suggessts, im looking at a engine transplant, ive a 02 omega, 3.2 v6, its letting in water in the rocker cover gaskey, think im down to 4 cylinders too, i was thinking of putting a smaller engine in, was wondering what fits, the car is a work horse so i want to have a bit of torque without the hugh fuel consumption!
 any recommendations or does anyone have an engine for sale even?!

its the manual 5 speed , ideas and options please?!
Ex-Police or a Auto to Manual conversion Omega ?

Will be ex plod :y

Why not sort out the problem?  Forgive me for saying but why buy a V6 3.2 engined car if your after MPG? :)

Misfire issues on the 3.2 are well documented here and easily sorted as Daz has suggested, but people can't be bothered to search for anything :-X

Fix the scuttle, then change the coilpacks and it will be fine :y

If this is too difficult, you might find it easier to pull the engine and replace it with a 1.3CDTi lump. That will be easier and save you loads of money once you've got it running ;D
Title: Re: engine transplant options...
Post by: martin42 on 22 May 2013, 22:20:01
and a 0-60 of errrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrNEVER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
or another option go very very very very very medieval old school and hitch up some shire hores,plenty of torque and only 2 horsepower ;D ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: engine transplant options...
Post by: 05omegav6 on 22 May 2013, 22:35:08
Probably more reliable as well ;D
Title: Re: engine transplant options...
Post by: Sir Tigger KC on 22 May 2013, 22:57:11
Fix the scuttle

That's impossible!! :o  I was thinking about getting rid of mine and replacing with a length of guttering....  :)
Title: Re: engine transplant options...
Post by: Webby the Bear on 22 May 2013, 23:19:52
i'm thinkin' if you have the mechanical know how of being able to pull an engine and swap it for a new one you'll be able to swap the coil packs and seal up the scuttle.  :y
Title: Re: engine transplant options...
Post by: martin42 on 22 May 2013, 23:37:27
Webby don't confuse matters ,coil pack change ,15 mins,seal scuttle 5 mins,engine transplant days,can we have a poll on this
Title: Re: engine transplant options...
Post by: 2woody on 22 May 2013, 23:41:07
actually, the 3.2 manual is just about the most economical Omega in the range
Title: Re: engine transplant options...
Post by: Webby the Bear on 22 May 2013, 23:42:38
Webby don't confuse matters ,coil pack change ,15 mins,seal scuttle 5 mins,engine transplant days,can we have a poll on this

That's what I meant mate... easier to sort that than pull out an engine  :y
Title: Re: engine transplant options...
Post by: kevinp58 on 22 May 2013, 23:56:50
Should have brought a weasel Mate  :y :y :y
Title: Re: engine transplant options...
Post by: dbug on 23 May 2013, 00:14:20
I've got an old Hillman Imp engine here mate ;D ;D ;D :y
Title: Re: engine transplant options...
Post by: allen25 on 23 May 2013, 11:00:30
You could sort the issues and consider running on LPG I suppose? Engine swap does sound a bit drastic. If you do swap it, make sure the 3.2 manual goes to a good home!
Title: Re: engine transplant options...
Post by: 05omegav6 on 23 May 2013, 11:34:21
make sure the 3.2 manual goes to a good home!
Little chance of that, given its location :-\

A crate of beer and a bag of sausages says the OPs next question is diff related ::)
Title: Re: engine transplant options...
Post by: paolodiddy on 23 May 2013, 12:42:40
Why not sort out the problem?  Forgive me for saying but why buy a V6 3.2 engined car if your after MPG? :)
ok here we go, got the car really cheap, petrol wsnt that expensive at the time, engines are fairly cheap to replace at the moment
Title: Re: engine transplant options...
Post by: paolodiddy on 23 May 2013, 12:44:15
as the topic suggessts, im looking at a engine transplant, ive a 02 omega, 3.2 v6, its letting in water in the rocker cover gaskey, think im down to 4 cylinders too, i was thinking of putting a smaller engine in, was wondering what fits, the car is a work horse so i want to have a bit of torque without the hugh fuel consumption!
 any recommendations or does anyone have an engine for sale even?!

its the manual 5 speed , ideas and options please?!
Ex-Police or a Auto to Manual conversion Omega ?
ex police, borth of ireland
Title: Re: engine transplant options...
Post by: paolodiddy on 23 May 2013, 12:49:19
make sure the 3.2 manual goes to a good home!
Little chance of that, given its location :-\

A crate of beer and a bag of sausages says the OPs next question is diff related ::)
location is just fine here lad, safer than the uk anyway ;) diff is just fine lad, whats the op about ?
Title: Re: engine transplant options...
Post by: paolodiddy on 23 May 2013, 12:55:16
here save me answering every one, 1... car was really cheap, 2 i no enough about engines to no its not a coil pack, not a scuttle issue, 3 i can pick up omegas for 300 - 700 euro, just wanted opinions on the best engine, 3.2 the best one, most economical, thats all you gotta say, thanks anyway.
Title: Re: engine transplant options...
Post by: 05omegav6 on 23 May 2013, 13:19:20
OP = Original Poster :y

The two most commonly asked questions that come from NI are either about LSDs or tuning.

As for the misfire, knock yourself out trying to sort it without paying attention ::) There isn't a V6 Omega engine that hasn't had misfires caused by either oil or water in the plug wells, resulting in coil pack failure, and there's nothing that Daz doesn't know about these engines.

But if you know best...

Title: Re: engine transplant options...
Post by: biggriffin on 23 May 2013, 13:19:43
Is it me or is the new "no 1 question" does it have a lsd. and is this a common question that seems to come from the country to the left,and can i use it for diffing. :o
Title: Re: engine transplant options...
Post by: albitz on 23 May 2013, 13:25:49
Motorsport and all things related are a national sport/way of life in the emerald isle. ;) :)
Lots of people watch tarmac rallying on public roads,and then want to have a go at driving in a similar fashion.
A healthy disregard for rules/regs and all that H&S bollix is a common mindset also. :)

As for the original question.Most economical optons are to convert your 3.2 to LPG,assuming its available locally to you,or have a diesel engine.Converting a petrol car to diesel isn't realistic in my opinion.Easier and cheaper to sell yours and buy a diesel to be honest. :y
Title: Re: engine transplant options...
Post by: Kevin Wood on 23 May 2013, 14:36:34
Lots of people watch tarmac rallying on public roads,and then want to have a go at driving in a similar fashion.

Yep. Came across a load of road closures for a rally when I was over there blatting around in the Westfield a fortnight ago. ;D

Good advice on getting back on track from the marshal, when I asked him about a diversion, though. "Oh, well, I don't know, but if you ended up out here you were certainly lost anyway". ;D
Title: Re: engine transplant options...
Post by: r1 on 23 May 2013, 21:26:32
a big four wheel drive diesel lump.
Title: Re: engine transplant options...
Post by: albitz on 23 May 2013, 22:23:10
Lots of people watch tarmac rallying on public roads,and then want to have a go at driving in a similar fashion.

Yep. Came across a load of road closures for a rally when I was over there blatting around in the Westfield a fortnight ago. ;D

Good advice on getting back on track from the marshal, when I asked him about a diversion, though. "Oh, well, I don't know, but if you ended up out here you were certainly lost anyway". ;D

The usual one is, "well now,I wouldn't be starting from here if I wanted to get to there". ::) ;D
Title: Re: engine transplant options...
Post by: 2woody on 23 May 2013, 22:29:47
I've got an old Hillman Imp engine here mate ;D ;D ;D :y

how strange - I've been working on one of those just today
Title: Re: engine transplant options...
Post by: albitz on 24 May 2013, 06:39:41
A cracking little engine they were too. :y
Title: Re: engine transplant options...
Post by: henryd on 24 May 2013, 09:34:48
A cracking little engine they were too. :y

Started out life as a fire pump engine I believe  :y
Title: Re: engine transplant options...
Post by: Kevin Wood on 24 May 2013, 09:46:08
A guy who has toured with us kit car types has a series 1 Lotus 7 with a Coventry Climax engine. 1098CC and revs like an angry wasp. :-*

Actually, when you think of all the gutless pushrod engines that were the norm when it was designed, it was well ahead of its' time.
Title: Re: engine transplant options...
Post by: kevinp58 on 24 May 2013, 10:36:24
I am old enough to remember the police using Hillman Imps  :o and IIRC they were a little temperamental to start,   :-\ when warm not the sort of car you need when chasing crims  :o ;D ;D
Title: Re: engine transplant options...
Post by: omega3000 on 24 May 2013, 11:55:42
make sure the 3.2 manual goes to a good home!
Little chance of that, given its location :-\

A crate of beer and a bag of sausages says the OPs next question is diff related ::)

Thanks Al , reminded me to call in the butchers for some sausages  :P ;D

Agreed , LPG is the way to go for op  :y
Title: Re: engine transplant options...
Post by: symes on 24 May 2013, 13:14:50
make sure the 3.2 manual goes to a good home!
Little chance of that, given its location :-\

A crate of beer and a bag of sausages says the OPs next question is diff related ::)

Thanks Al , reminded me to call in the butchers for some sausages  :P ;D

Agreed , LPG is the way to go for op  :y
If OP cant be bothered with engine-why spend££s on LPG kit ;)
Title: Re: engine transplant options...
Post by: albitz on 24 May 2013, 14:50:45
A guy who has toured with us kit car types has a series 1 Lotus 7 with a Coventry Climax engine. 1098CC and revs like an angry wasp. :-*

Actually, when you think of all the gutless pushrod engines that were the norm when it was designed, it was well ahead of its' time.

I knew a bloke in N.I. who had a very nice Davrian kit car.It had a no expense spared full race 1140 Imp engine,including fuel injection,which wasn't that common in the 70,s. It was a little flying machine.Was used mainly for competition purposes and often embarrassed much bigger engine cars.
He used to buy his rear tyres (slicks)from the formula Atlantic drivers,as they were the same size as their front tyres. When they had lost a few tenths from their lap times due to wear,he would have them and use them for a few more meetings.

P.S. We have no idea exactly where the OP is located,so also have no idea how available LPG is to him. ;)