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Title: Do GM do 10w50 oil?
Post by: tunnie on 08 June 2013, 22:09:33
As above, for the GS. It's got a dry clutch, so normal car oil should be fine? I'm considering DIY service jobs on the bike :)

Be good if I can get it on TC :)
Title: Re: Do GM do 10w50 oil?
Post by: albitz on 08 June 2013, 22:12:42
I would have thought the normal 10/40 semi would be fine tbh. Ive used it in my bike for a few years as has DLK.No problems at all,even revving to around 13,000rpm. ;)
Title: Re: Do GM do 10w50 oil?
Post by: tunnie on 08 June 2013, 22:15:20
I would have thought the normal 10/40 semi would be fine tbh. Ive used it in my bike for a few years as has DLK.No problems at all,even revving to around 13,000rpm. ;)

Big ass low revving boxer up to about 6/7k rpm, no worse than a car.  :-\

So be good if I can use 10/40, all I need is a £6 tool to remove the oil filter, as oil changes look dead easy on it
Title: Re: Do GM do 10w50 oil?
Post by: albitz on 08 June 2013, 22:17:55
Seek advice from someone more expert before diving in though (possibly Mark DTM or Kevin Wood ?).I don't want to be responsible for the demise of your engine. ;) ;D
Title: Re: Do GM do 10w50 oil?
Post by: 05omegav6 on 08 June 2013, 22:20:20
Seek advice from someone more expert before diving in though (possibly Mark DTM or Kevin Wood ?).I don't want to be responsible for the demise of your engine. ;) ;D
Not mycarbike ::)
Title: Re: Do GM do 10w50 oil?
Post by: tunnie on 08 June 2013, 22:23:54
Seek advice from someone more expert before diving in though (possibly Mark DTM or Kevin Wood ?).I don't want to be responsible for the demise of your engine. ;) ;D

Reading up on GS forum, some people there use 10/40, it's recommended even more so for high miles bikes (mine is 38k)
Title: Re: Do GM do 10w50 oil?
Post by: albitz on 08 June 2013, 22:40:42
So is mine. :y
Title: Re: Do GM do 10w50 oil?
Post by: TheBoy on 09 June 2013, 10:20:24
I use GM in my ZX10, and (not checked) thought that was a wet clutch. OK, it only revs to 11.5k, so a bi more agricultural than modern designs.

I thought you had to keep up Bob Marley and the Whalers dealer service history on it?
Title: Re: Do GM do 10w50 oil?
Post by: tunnie on 09 June 2013, 10:43:55
I use GM in my ZX10, and (not checked) thought that was a wet clutch. OK, it only revs to 11.5k, so a bi more agricultural than modern designs.

I thought you had to keep up Bob Marley and the Whalers dealer service history on it?

Popped it on trader, had a load of bloody scam mails. Only one decent bit of interest, did not return call as I took it out for a ride and liked it too much  ::)

Think high miles are putting people off  :-\

I figured at this age, the new liquid cooled GS is out now, its going way of the 1150 GS. Its 7 years old now, I think its no longer really worth the stamps.

As we discussed other day, what is there really on this thing? The shaft drive is sealed, just had its fluid changed so good for long time yet. Been researching changing other fluids such as gearbox, looks dead easy, few bespoke tools needed like a long neck drain. Air filter looks bit more fiddly but still easy, parts don't look hugely expensive either. Oil filter is around £10 from BMW, so figured why not  :)
Title: Re: Do GM do 10w50 oil?
Post by: TheBoy on 09 June 2013, 10:54:49
I'm sure on a GS on that age, Haynes do a book of boolax?

You know my thoughts, we've discussed at length, and hence I still have my ZX10.

As to DIY servicing, thats probably going to be the decision to sell soon, or keep long term (until its worth sod all).

Lack of interest shows its probably priced too high.
Title: Re: Do GM do 10w50 oil?
Post by: tunnie on 09 June 2013, 11:11:08
I'm sure on a GS on that age, Haynes do a book of boolax?

You know my thoughts, we've discussed at length, and hence I still have my ZX10.

As to DIY servicing, thats probably going to be the decision to sell soon, or keep long term (until its worth sod all).

Lack of interest shows its probably priced too high.

Keeper long term is an option, as the bike could save a lot of time on a new Surrey/Hampshire commute, as that Chiswick Roundabout and slip to M4 is always blocked solid, could save a big amount of time there on the bike. Looks like I'm keeping my shifts for good while yet, bike for mid-week work, car for weekend shifts.

I priced it lowest 56 plate, in the top 10 of lowest price GS's - Considered selling for something smaller, Yam XJ6 which were brand spanking new when I passed now kicking around for under 3k. But 20 mins riding small 600's and my back aches, shoulder pains, crap visibility really.

Took GS out last week, up high, see all around, plenty of poke for my needs, knew if I took it out I'd keep it  ::)
Title: Re: Do GM do 10w50 oil?
Post by: Shackeng on 09 June 2013, 11:17:47
I'm sure on a GS on that age, Haynes do a book of boolax?

You know my thoughts, we've discussed at length, and hence I still have my ZX10.

As to DIY servicing, thats probably going to be the decision to sell soon, or keep long term (until its worth sod all).

Lack of interest shows its probably priced too high.

Keeper long term is an option, as the bike could save a lot of time on a new Surrey/Hampshire commute, as that Chiswick Roundabout and slip to M4 is always blocked solid, could save a big amount of time there on the bike. Looks like I'm keeping my shifts for good while yet, bike for mid-week work, car for weekend shifts.

I priced it lowest 56 plate, in the top 10 of lowest price GS's - Considered selling for something smaller, Yam XJ6 which were brand spanking new when I passed now kicking around for under 3k. But 20 mins riding small 600's and my back aches, shoulder pains, crap visibility really.

Took GS out last week, up high, see all around, plenty of poke for my needs, knew if I took it out I'd keep it  ::)

Its a long time since I had a bike ('55 Speed Twin since you ask), but I'm surprised that 38k is considered high mileage for a well engineered piece of kit like yours. :-\
Title: Re: Do GM do 10w50 oil?
Post by: tunnie on 09 June 2013, 11:26:02
I'm sure on a GS on that age, Haynes do a book of boolax?

You know my thoughts, we've discussed at length, and hence I still have my ZX10.

As to DIY servicing, thats probably going to be the decision to sell soon, or keep long term (until its worth sod all).

Lack of interest shows its probably priced too high.

Keeper long term is an option, as the bike could save a lot of time on a new Surrey/Hampshire commute, as that Chiswick Roundabout and slip to M4 is always blocked solid, could save a big amount of time there on the bike. Looks like I'm keeping my shifts for good while yet, bike for mid-week work, car for weekend shifts.

I priced it lowest 56 plate, in the top 10 of lowest price GS's - Considered selling for something smaller, Yam XJ6 which were brand spanking new when I passed now kicking around for under 3k. But 20 mins riding small 600's and my back aches, shoulder pains, crap visibility really.

Took GS out last week, up high, see all around, plenty of poke for my needs, knew if I took it out I'd keep it  ::)

Its a long time since I had a bike ('55 Speed Twin since you ask), but I'm surprised that 38k is considered high mileage for a well engineered piece of kit like yours. :-\

If you take a look on trader, of the 1200's very few have above 20/25k miles. Most have around 15k  :-\

When I test road a few, one I eventually bought rode far, far better than some of the examples with half the miles.
Title: Re: Do GM do 10w50 oil?
Post by: Andy B on 09 June 2013, 13:43:31
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If you take a look on trader, of the 1200's very few have above 20/25k miles. Most have around 15k  :-\

When I test road a few, one I eventually bought rode far, far better than some of the examples with half the miles.

My 97 TDM has 18k on the clock  :-[  :-[ I think it's done a couple of hundred miles over the past few years.  :-[
Title: Re: Do GM do 10w50 oil?
Post by: tunnie on 09 June 2013, 14:27:23
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If you take a look on trader, of the 1200's very few have above 20/25k miles. Most have around 15k  :-\

When I test road a few, one I eventually bought rode far, far better than some of the examples with half the miles.

My 97 TDM has 18k on the clock  :-[  :-[ I think it's done a couple of hundred miles over the past few years.  :-[

I guess bikes are always just the toy, so get little use.

Might as well run the bike for the long term, been researching oil threads on GS forum. Which is not fun, quite a lot of bashing a pish taking on those threads!

But looks like a few years ago 10/40 was the recommended oil, so think I'll go for it.  :)
Title: Re: Do GM do 10w50 oil?
Post by: omega3000 on 09 June 2013, 17:27:23
I wouldnt go for the XJ 600 , i was lent a CBF 600 while my ZX1200 was in for service . I was quite surprised how comfy it was and handled really well , also having the upright riding style it gave no back ache CBF (http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/HONDA-CBF600-CBF600S-CBF-600-2005-FSH-SPORTS-TOURER-COMMUTER-/300905588551?pt=UK_Motorcycles&hash=item460f5ee747)  :) Fast enough for commute work and half decent wind deflection with the half fairing  :y
Title: Re: Do GM do 10w50 oil?
Post by: Field Marshal Dr. Opti on 10 June 2013, 15:05:02
I'm sure on a GS on that age, Haynes do a book of boolax?

You know my thoughts, we've discussed at length, and hence I still have my ZX10.

As to DIY servicing, thats probably going to be the decision to sell soon, or keep long term (until its worth sod all).

Lack of interest shows its probably priced too high.


Unlike cars, bikes rarely come to the point of being worth SFA.

I would say that Mr Tunnie's bike has lost most of the value it's going to, and probably won't be worth significantly less a decade from now.......probably a further 25% drop. :y :y :y

These flat twins have been around since before time was invented, and most jobs are simple and accessible to your average DIY'er.

***k the dealers,  Mr tunnie......... Keep the old girl and get your spanners out. :y ;)

 
Title: Re: Do GM do 10w50 oil?
Post by: tunnie on 10 June 2013, 16:12:51
I'm sure on a GS on that age, Haynes do a book of boolax?

You know my thoughts, we've discussed at length, and hence I still have my ZX10.

As to DIY servicing, thats probably going to be the decision to sell soon, or keep long term (until its worth sod all).

Lack of interest shows its probably priced too high.
***k the dealers,  Mr tunnie......... Keep the old girl and get your spanners out. :y ;)

Thats my thoughts now, as I have most things. After a V6 Omega, how hard can it be?  :D
Title: Re: Do GM do 10w50 oil?
Post by: omega3000 on 10 June 2013, 20:21:07
I'm sure on a GS on that age, Haynes do a book of boolax?

You know my thoughts, we've discussed at length, and hence I still have my ZX10.

As to DIY servicing, thats probably going to be the decision to sell soon, or keep long term (until its worth sod all).

Lack of interest shows its probably priced too high.


Unlike cars, bikes rarely come to the point of being worth SFA.

I would say that Mr Tunnie's bike has lost most of the value it's going to, and probably won't be worth significantly less a decade from now.......probably a further 25% drop. :y :y :y

These flat twins have been around since before time was invented, and most jobs are simple and accessible to your average DIY'er.

***k the dealers,  Mr tunnie......... Keep the old girl and get your spanners out. :y ;)

+ 1  :y I sold a GPZ750 three years ago sprayed all matt black rat lookalike . Got £600 for it  :)
Title: Re: Do GM do 10w50 oil?
Post by: Sir Tigger KC on 12 June 2013, 23:17:51
I sold a GPZ750 three years ago sprayed all matt black rat lookalike . Got £600 for it  :)

I always liked the old GPZ's  :)

I nearly bought a GPZ900 a few years ago and I've always kinda wished I had!  :-\  It had a few issues though if I remember rightly....  :-\
Title: Re: Do GM do 10w50 oil?
Post by: omega3000 on 12 June 2013, 23:26:00
I sold a GPZ750 three years ago sprayed all matt black rat lookalike . Got £600 for it  :)

I always liked the old GPZ's  :)

I nearly bought a GPZ900 a few years ago and I've always kinda wished I had!  :-\  It had a few issues though if I remember rightly....  :-\

I nearly bought a GPZ900 , bloke said its mint .. when i went to view it well  ::) it had 30k on the clocks but sounded like 130k , brakes never worked and throtle stuck + no lights worked  :( So passed on that and got the GPZ750 .. stank of petrol where it stood but was just floats stuck ... sorted that and it went straight through mot  :y Electrics can be temperamental on the older bikes now though  :(
Title: Re: Do GM do 10w50 oil?
Post by: Sir Tigger KC on 12 June 2013, 23:56:50
I sold a GPZ750 three years ago sprayed all matt black rat lookalike . Got £600 for it  :)

I always liked the old GPZ's  :)

I nearly bought a GPZ900 a few years ago and I've always kinda wished I had!  :-\  It had a few issues though if I remember rightly....  :-\

I nearly bought a GPZ900 , bloke said its mint .. when i went to view it well  ::) it had 30k on the clocks but sounded like 130k , brakes never worked and throtle stuck + no lights worked  :( So passed on that and got the GPZ750 .. stank of petrol where it stood but was just floats stuck ... sorted that and it went straight through mot  :y Electrics can be temperamental on the older bikes now though  :(

I'd have thought they've got to be appreciating classics by now?  :-\
Title: Re: Do GM do 10w50 oil?
Post by: Sir Tigger KC on 13 June 2013, 00:03:41
Just found this!!  :o :o :o

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Kawasaki-GPZ-900R-A8-/151049548372?pt=UK_Motorcycles&hash=item232b413254
Title: Re: Do GM do 10w50 oil?
Post by: omega3000 on 13 June 2013, 14:38:32
Just found this!!  :o :o :o

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Kawasaki-GPZ-900R-A8-/151049548372?pt=UK_Motorcycles&hash=item232b413254

Lot of money spent on that , think they were only about £3k brand new  :-\ I would rather have a tunnie style sit up and beg bike like this http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/KAWASAKI-ZRX1200S-ZRX-1200S-model-ZR1200-B2P-one-previous-owner-FSH-excellent-/251278766529?pt=UK_Motorcycles&hash=item3a8161b1c1
Same bike same colour as the one i had  ;)
Title: Re: Do GM do 10w50 oil?
Post by: Sir Tigger KC on 13 June 2013, 18:38:39
Just found this!!  :o :o :o

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Kawasaki-GPZ-900R-A8-/151049548372?pt=UK_Motorcycles&hash=item232b413254

Lot of money spent on that , think they were only about £3k brand new  :-\ I would rather have a tunnie style sit up and beg bike like this http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/KAWASAKI-ZRX1200S-ZRX-1200S-model-ZR1200-B2P-one-previous-owner-FSH-excellent-/251278766529?pt=UK_Motorcycles&hash=item3a8161b1c1
Same bike same colour as the one i had  ;)
Yes I like that!  :y 

My CBR600 is gathering dust at the moment, but I've often thought if I ever change it, I'd get something a bit more sit up and beg....  :-[  ;D
Title: Re: Do GM do 10w50 oil?
Post by: omega3000 on 14 June 2013, 14:50:54
Just found this!!  :o :o :o

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Kawasaki-GPZ-900R-A8-/151049548372?pt=UK_Motorcycles&hash=item232b413254

Lot of money spent on that , think they were only about £3k brand new  :-\ I would rather have a tunnie style sit up and beg bike like this http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/KAWASAKI-ZRX1200S-ZRX-1200S-model-ZR1200-B2P-one-previous-owner-FSH-excellent-/251278766529?pt=UK_Motorcycles&hash=item3a8161b1c1
Same bike same colour as the one i had  ;)
Yes I like that!  :y 

My CBR600 is gathering dust at the moment, but I've often thought if I ever change it, I'd get something a bit more sit up and beg....  :-[  ;D

Had one of those i used for work and back in the winter , never missed a beat  :) Too cramped for long journeys though , getting on a bit now but the CBX750 i had was a bike you could ride for days in comfort  :)

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/1986-HONDA-CBX-750-FE-SILVER-/290929944890?pt=UK_Motorcycles&hash=item43bcc6a93a

Wish id kept that  :(
Title: Re: Do GM do 10w50 oil?
Post by: albitz on 14 June 2013, 22:20:35
My cbr600fx has been gathering dust for quite a while now.I rode it back from the MOT station last September and it hasn't turned a wheel since. Iirc it only did a few hundred miles the year before that.I really must tidy it up a bit and flog it. ::)
Title: Re: Do GM do 10w50 oil?
Post by: omega3000 on 14 June 2013, 22:24:57
Dont see that many bikes around here these days , sign of the times again  :-\