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Title: Oof premises.
Post by: chrisgixer on 05 August 2013, 22:59:04
Bah. I'm really pushing the realms of what's possible with this one I know, but....


What's the odds of securing a basic work shop with a lift for Oof members?

( ;D ok ok you can stop laughing now ;D )

We'd have to chip in to cover costs, a monthly amount maybe, I guess. And someone to count the beans. ...and look after a key.

But those minor inconveniences aside.... ?  Well it doesn't hurt to ask, does it ? :) ;D
Title: Re: Oof premises.
Post by: Andy B on 05 August 2013, 23:04:37
Would be available for other car types too?  ::) ::)
Title: Re: Oof premises.
Post by: chrisgixer on 05 August 2013, 23:05:38
Would be available for other car types too?  ::) ::)

You'd lift that smart up with one hand surely? ;D
Title: Re: Oof premises.
Post by: Andy B on 05 August 2013, 23:07:50
Would be available for other car types too?  ::) ::)

You'd lift that smart up with one hand surely? ;D

Probably  ;) ;)
Title: Re: Oof premises.
Post by: Lazydocker on 05 August 2013, 23:09:37
I think you stand more chance of getting a group together and doing it, like mine up here ;)
Title: Re: Oof premises.
Post by: chrisgixer on 05 August 2013, 23:11:53
I think you stand more chance of getting a group together and doing it, like mine up here ;)

Yes location is important. Like two mins from my house :y
Title: Re: Oof premises.
Post by: Andy B on 05 August 2013, 23:12:54
I think you stand more chance of getting a group together and doing it, like mine up here ;)

Yes location is important. Like two mins from my house :y

somewhere inside the M60 would be good for me  :y :y
Title: Re: Oof premises.
Post by: Andy H on 05 August 2013, 23:30:09
I think you stand more chance of getting a group together and doing it, like mine up here ;)

Yes location is important. Like two mins from my house :y

somewhere inside the M60 would be good for me  :y :y
Border of Devon & Cornwall would be good for me.............
Title: Re: Oof premises.
Post by: Terbs on 05 August 2013, 23:32:40
Well....if they can cart Mobile homes around on the back of a lorry...why don't we get a mobile workshop, and get it transported to wherever ;D ;D :y
Title: Re: Oof premises.
Post by: Vamps on 06 August 2013, 00:11:45
Good idea, Mid way between the Sarf and the North of Scotland, around Durham would do it...... :y :y

Phils swmbo Sylvia would volunteer to make coffee and bacon butties, I am sure....... :D
Title: Re: Oof premises.
Post by: plym ian on 06 August 2013, 03:07:55
I think you stand more chance of getting a group together and doing it, like mine up here ;)

Yes location is important. Like two mins from my house :y

somewhere inside the M60 would be good for me  :y :y
Border of Devon & Cornwall
would be good for me.............
and me too :y
Title: Re: Oof premises.
Post by: ted_one on 06 August 2013, 09:18:49
My son has a backup workshop that is'nt being used after their main premises were refurbed,it has a lift which struggles very slightly with the Omega but works OK,the yard could do with a tidy up but would hold at least a dozen cars easily,it's in Staines Middlesex and would make an ideal meeting spot for south eastern members.BUT now comes the the bit that will scare us off :o The rent is £1200 per month which would high light the fact that any where down this end of the country would cost an arm/ leg plus the odd kidney.
Great idea...but unless there's someone amongst us that has a spare workshop kicking around it's going to be a struggle to make this one fly :'(
Title: Re: Oof premises.
Post by: aaronjb on 06 August 2013, 09:28:10
Out of interest.. how big is it for £1200/mo? Interior space, that is (you already gave a good idea of how big the yard is if it can fit a dozen cars).. I've often wondered about renting a premises like that but never had the cajones to call a commercial lettings agency to find out  :-[
Title: Re: Oof premises.
Post by: ted_one on 06 August 2013, 09:59:45
Two good size bays,second one is stud partitioned into two parts and currently used for tyre storage,but the yard is really big and when they clear the dead cars etc I think that it would hold perhaps another six cars,I could'nt give exact dimensions but it's a very practical space and I guess to the right person who has that sort of money they would have a ready made business as my son's place is turning away so much servicing/mechanical work,I would say that you could live on what they turn away. :y
Title: Re: Oof premises.
Post by: 05omegav6 on 06 August 2013, 10:03:14
On mobile so not easy to link, but google Jubilee Estate, Foundry Lane Horsham. The unit we had was at the far endon the right hand side, £900 pcm :y
Title: Re: Oof premises.
Post by: 05omegav6 on 06 August 2013, 10:40:39
On mobile so not easy to link, but google Jubilee Estate, Foundry Lane Horsham. The unit we had was at the far endon the right hand side, £900 pcm :y
Just to add, it had four spaces outside and room inside for six cars. The ceiling was about 10ft iirc. Also had two toilets and an office
Title: Re: Oof premises.
Post by: bigegg on 06 August 2013, 11:17:19
I had a unit in Leeds, just off the M1/M621/M62 big enough for 3 cars (4 at a push), INCLUDING rates, electricity - 1ph and 3ph - and water.
Only parking for 2 cars outside tho - but plenty of room for extra cars on a weekend or outside yard.
For £800 a month.
*might* be still available.

Title: Re: Oof premises.
Post by: tunnie on 06 August 2013, 12:57:57
I've posted this before, its a garage where you can rent a lift or bay with tools for "self service"

http://www.pitstartgarage.com/self_service.html (http://www.pitstartgarage.com/self_service.html)

It's not too bad at £80 for the day, if we got a few of us there, be very cheap.

Looked through their site, cannot see anything relating to "meets" - Maybe if we hired all 4 bays they had it would be ok, or just 2  :-\

Might be worth a call, think this is a better option that one we have 24/7 which is going to cost a bomb
Title: Re: Oof premises.
Post by: taitinson on 06 August 2013, 13:46:44
I think you stand more chance of getting a group together and doing it, like mine up here ;)

Yes location is important. Like two mins from my house :y

somewhere inside the M60 would be good for me  :y :y
Border of Devon & Cornwall
would be good for me.............
and me too :y
Would work for me too  :y
Title: Re: Oof premises.
Post by: biggriffin on 06 August 2013, 14:49:29
a few years ago i thought about buying a single phase ramp and putting it on the drive,the only down side was the cost of the ramp, £1400+ so didn't do it,would have also sunk it down so would have been level with the drive.
 dont think I'd be allowed to to it now :'(
Title: Re: Oof premises.
Post by: omega3000 on 06 August 2013, 16:19:57
Kettering would be a great place for a big shed , plenty empty ones and easy access to A14/M1  :P

Noofer's  :)
Title: Re: Oof premises.
Post by: TheBoy on 06 August 2013, 21:38:37
Within farting distance of Tiffins is essential. Obviously.
Title: Re: Oof premises.
Post by: Kevin Wood on 06 August 2013, 22:22:15
Within farting distance of Tiffins is essential. Obviously.

In fairness, that's quite a long way on a bad day for some of us. ::)
Title: Re: Oof premises.
Post by: Andy B on 06 August 2013, 22:24:38
Within farting distance of Tiffins is essential. Obviously.

In fairness, that's quite a long way on a bad day for some of us. ::)

I was thinking of Jimbob .....  ;D ;D
Title: Re: Oof premises.
Post by: Kevin Wood on 06 August 2013, 22:25:33
Within farting distance of Tiffins is essential. Obviously.

In fairness, that's quite a long way on a bad day for some of us. ::)

I was thinking of Jimbob .....  ;D ;D

I can't lie... :-X
Title: Re: Oof premises.
Post by: tigers_gonads on 07 August 2013, 11:18:49
Can't see it working out if this had the OOF stamp on it.
Too many people scattered around the country so going on past bitch fights, I can only see this dividing this forum even more  :(
At the end of the day, what you southern members who met through this forum do is your business but if it had the OOF stamp on it, I can see it getting described as just another clique on here which I'm sure we all agree that we don't need that shite happening anymore.

Anyway, us well hard northerners know you southerner's are bit  soft but what's wrong with lying in a puddle like us lot  :-X ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Oof premises.
Post by: chrisgixer on 07 August 2013, 12:32:06
Can't see it working out if this had the OOF stamp on it.
Too many people scattered around the country so going on past bitch fights, I can only see this dividing this forum even more  :(
At the end of the day, what you southern members who met through this forum do is your business but if it had the OOF stamp on it, I can see it getting described as just another clique on here which I'm sure we all agree that we don't need that shite happening anymore.

Anyway, us well hard northerners know you southerner's are bit  soft but what's wrong with lying in a puddle like us lot  :-X ;D ;D ;D

Not sure what your on about there, but on the contrary I expect it be helpful and an advantage to all. Location though is obviously going to be impossible for a lot of members.
So on that basis I don't think it can work, as nobody is going to pay for a service they won't/can't use.

But stranger things have happened. Discussion costs nothing. :)
Title: Re: Oof premises.
Post by: Kevin Wood on 07 August 2013, 13:14:39
Sounds like the best solution would be a mobile workshop like my kit car group use for tour support. Mercedes 814 with a ramp inside able to hold a vehicle on the top "deck", so you can work underneath it. Fitted out with electrics, a workbench and tool cabinets, generator, compressor, etc. and a large side awning for extra fettling space.

Doing that with a 700 kg kit car is one thing, a 1700 kg Omega is a different matter. :o

It's still an expensive resource to maintain. We make it pay by a couple of members using it for commercial purposes when it's not required, and we also run several quite expensive tours per year for 50 odd cars, and include truck support in the total costs for the tourers. Added to accommodation, food, petrol, etc. it's not that significant, and we'd have left a lot of tourers behind over the years without it. K series head gasket change between last orders and breakfast, in a hotel car park in the back of beyond in Italy, anyone?
Title: Re: Oof premises.
Post by: aaronjb on 07 August 2013, 13:50:44
K series head gasket change between last orders and breakfast, in a hotel car park in the back of beyond in Italy, anyone?

A weekly occurrence for any K series owner, surely? ;D

Sounds like a fantastic resource to have on touring holidays, though!
Title: Re: Oof premises.
Post by: 05omegav6 on 07 August 2013, 15:16:40
I might know of a Volvo 18t rigid coming up for sale in the not too distant future... I might also know some one who can drive it ::)
Title: Re: Oof premises.
Post by: tigers_gonads on 07 August 2013, 16:20:11
Mmmmmm, might work if its going to be mobile  :-\

You thinking of starting up a mobile tyre and suspension fitting service Chris with cheep rates for members  :-X :-X ;D
Title: Re: Oof premises.
Post by: TheBoy on 07 August 2013, 19:25:17
A weekly occurrence for any K series owner, surely? ;D
Oi! Mine only failed once in 116k
Title: Re: Oof premises.
Post by: aaronjb on 07 August 2013, 20:44:08
A weekly occurrence for any K series owner, surely? ;D
Oi! Mine only failed once in 116k

That's a lot of miles in a week! ;)
Title: Re: Oof premises.
Post by: Lazydocker on 07 August 2013, 22:58:14
I might know of a Volvo 18t rigid coming up for sale in the not too distant future... I might also know some one who can drive it ::)
There's quite a few of us actually ;)
Title: Re: Oof premises.
Post by: Vamps on 07 August 2013, 23:33:31
I might know of a Volvo 18t rigid coming up for sale in the not too distant future... I might also know some one who can drive it ::)
There's quite a few of us actually ;)

Indeed there are........ ;) ;)
Title: Re: Oof premises.
Post by: Gaffers on 07 August 2013, 23:38:33
I might know of a Volvo 18t rigid coming up for sale in the not too distant future... I might also know some one who can drive it ::)
There's quite a few of us actually ;)

Indeed there are........ ;) ;)

Stick tracks on it and I can drive it too  ;D ;D
Title: Re: Oof premises.
Post by: Seth on 07 August 2013, 23:47:13
Sounds like the best solution would be a mobile workshop like my kit car group use for tour support. Mercedes 814 with a ramp inside able to hold a vehicle on the top "deck", so you can work underneath it. Fitted out with electrics, a workbench and tool cabinets, generator, compressor, etc. and a large side awning for extra fettling space.


anyone?

Yeah ... me ... actually ...  :o

I've been given first shout on this:

(https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/43954633/IMG_0703.JPG)

... when it becomes available just after Newent ... as it just so happens! ;)

And it has the added bonuses of being sleeper-cabbed with the 6-cylinder lump, as opposed to the later 4-cylinder 'EcoPower' DBW motor. :y
Title: Re: Oof premises.
Post by: 05omegav6 on 08 August 2013, 00:43:03
I might know of a Volvo 18t rigid coming up for sale in the not too distant future... I might also know some one who can drive it ::)
There's quite a few of us actually ;)
I know that :-*

Spent the day pondering the potential of this...

(http://i1277.photobucket.com/albums/y486/05omegav6/DSC_0121_zpsa4c7ef40.jpg)

 ::)
Title: Re: Oof premises.
Post by: chrisgixer on 08 August 2013, 00:47:05
Oh yes, I knew there was something I'd forgotten.  :-[


Can that second level be made into a lift?
Title: Re: Oof premises.
Post by: 05omegav6 on 08 August 2013, 01:02:19
Not without some major surgery :-\ but nothing to say the rear panel can't be replaced with a deep tail lift :y
Title: Re: Oof premises.
Post by: chrisgixer on 08 August 2013, 01:06:06
Not without some major surgery :-\ but nothing to say the rear panel can't be replaced with a deep tail lift :y

Ah, and cut the middle out, ramp style? :)


...although a post type lift is better for suspension work, but then again that doesn't stop wim, with there axle jack that rolls along to lift the wheels. :y

Correction, to lift the car up to clear the wheels. :)
Title: Re: Oof premises.
Post by: cnj on 08 August 2013, 05:46:42
looking at the trailer and chris's comment about lift, I used to work for a livestock haulier who used parkhouse bodies on the trucks, the upper deck was lifted by cables attached to a hydraulic ram, so my thought is why with all the various engineering skills that we have on here could it not be possible to convert such a thing !!
Title: Re: Oof premises.
Post by: Kevin Wood on 08 August 2013, 08:42:09
A weekly occurrence for any K series owner, surely? ;D
Oi! Mine only failed once in 116k

Now people are building them properly it's a rarity, even on the 8-9K RPM examples that are tuned silly.
Title: Re: Oof premises.
Post by: aaronjb on 08 August 2013, 09:20:11
What you want is one like this: http://bookatrack.com/-PG?atoner&2181&17676&640&.jpg

Deep tail lift, cars go on the upper deck, workshop below, built in generator.. heck it even has a kitchen sink (no, really!)..

Although come to think of it, you couldn't really work on the cars on the upper deck. D'oh.
Title: Re: Oof premises.
Post by: 05omegav6 on 08 August 2013, 19:35:40
looking at the trailer and chris's comment about lift, I used to work for a livestock haulier who used parkhouse bodies on the trucks, the upper deck was lifted by cables attached to a hydraulic ram, so my thought is why with all the various engineering skills that we have on here could it not be possible to convert such a thing !!
As it stands, that trailer has two centreline pillars which pass through the top deck and support the roof. The top deck is welded to those supports, creating a rigid structure. There are ways of getting a car onto the top deck, but as Aaron has observed you could never work on it up there ::)

There are different types of double deck trailers which have a floating floor, but they have limitations to the weight of the top deck and also restricted width due to the lift mechanism :-\

The taillift that Aaron linked to is the kind of thing I had in mind, with the central third removed, allowing easy and height adjustable access to the chassis :y

All food for thought though :y