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Omega Help Area => Omega General Help => Topic started by: manolo on 21 August 2013, 08:50:18

Title: diff, repair or second hand?
Post by: manolo on 21 August 2013, 08:50:18
Hi,
I have a vibration at slow rotation of the wheels (first&second gear) in a curve when accelerating (opel omega 2.6v6)
whether it is better to repair the old dif or buy second hand???
is it problem to fix the old diff, what is changing and how?
http://www.partsbase.org/opel/omega-b-1994-2003-13-3-8-1-differential-case-rear-axle-with-limited-slip-differential/ (http://www.partsbase.org/opel/omega-b-1994-2003-13-3-8-1-differential-case-rear-axle-with-limited-slip-differential/)

thanks



Title: Re: diff, repair or second hand?
Post by: fregis on 21 August 2013, 09:03:55
a you sure gear fail? my mate Omega was also vibration acceleration, appears to blame rubber mounting. Or maybe propeler shaft holder
Title: Re: diff, repair or second hand?
Post by: manolo on 21 August 2013, 09:22:29
diferencial 100%
 :'(
Title: Re: diff, repair or second hand?
Post by: chrisgixer on 21 August 2013, 12:04:46
LSD's are difficult to find used, never mind get spares for. Yours should be a 4.22 gear ratio on the 2.6 I would think, which is rarer still.

Although, if its the slip plates that are at fault, 2woody on here may have some.
Title: Re: diff, repair or second hand?
Post by: omegod on 21 August 2013, 17:53:07
Got a standard 2.6 diff here but sense you may be some distance from me!
Title: Re: diff, repair or second hand?
Post by: 2woody on 22 August 2013, 21:11:20
a small shuddering is normal under the circumstances you describe.

In fact, it is one of the best ways to tell if the LSD is working properly.

Are you sure that you have LSD ?
Title: Re: diff, repair or second hand?
Post by: manolo on 23 August 2013, 10:18:07
on automotive hoist when turning one wheel other one is turning in the same direction = LSD diff
Title: Re: diff, repair or second hand?
Post by: 2woody on 23 August 2013, 23:35:56
that DOES NOT work.

best way to check - pop out a driveshaft and see if there's one or two diff pins

second best way to check - look for the option code on the VIN plate

third best way - try to start off with one rear wheel on some slippery stuff
Title: Re: diff, repair or second hand?
Post by: fregis on 24 August 2013, 08:42:32
Another way to find out whether there is, remove the shaft and see if is a cross
http://i.ebayimg.com/t/Vauxhall-Omega-lsd-diff-/00/s/MTIwMFgxNjAw/z/j~QAAOxymnFSEnIG/$(KGrHqFHJFIFILuBIKwoBSEnIFSupg~~60_12.JPG (http://i.ebayimg.com/t/Vauxhall-Omega-lsd-diff-/00/s/MTIwMFgxNjAw/z/j~QAAOxymnFSEnIG/$(KGrHqFHJFIFILuBIKwoBSEnIFSupg~~60_12.JPG)
Title: Re: diff, repair or second hand?
Post by: manolo on 29 August 2013, 15:38:02
I found several dif, which is the difference between 2.5, 3.0 and 2.5td diff
you I can put them instead? I have omega 2.6v6
Title: Re: diff, repair or second hand?
Post by: manolo on 02 September 2013, 10:42:01
I found a diff for the 2.6v6 with automatic gearbox
can I mount them instead of my  (manual 5 speed gearbox)?
Title: Re: diff, repair or second hand?
Post by: chrisgixer on 02 September 2013, 16:06:34
Here are the oe dif ratios
http://www.omegaowners.com/forum/index.php?topic=90453.0

2.6 manual is 3.90 as it has 5 gears

2.6 auto is 4.22 as it has 4 gears

...hopefully I've got that the right way round ;D

So, it will fit, but you will be changing gear quicker, as it revs slightly quicker, accelerates quicker, but will be slightly less economical and revs will sit slightly higher and be noisier at a constant speed on the motorway.


Here are the effects those different ratios will have.
http://www.omegaowners.com/forum/index.php?topic=90497.0
Title: Re: diff, repair or second hand?
Post by: 05omegav6 on 02 September 2013, 21:01:00
Handy set of graphs  :y
Title: Re: diff, repair or second hand?
Post by: manolo on 02 September 2013, 21:35:40
if  so I can mount dif from Y25DT 3,273 and get lazy car that can run over 170 miles/h?

http://www.opel-infos.de/getriebe/ha_diff.html (http://www.opel-infos.de/getriebe/ha_diff.html)
Title: Re: diff, repair or second hand?
Post by: chrisgixer on 02 September 2013, 22:03:03
if  so I can mount dif from Y25DT 3,273 and get lazy car that can run over 170 miles/h?

http://www.opel-infos.de/getriebe/ha_diff.html (http://www.opel-infos.de/getriebe/ha_diff.html)
No not really. It probably won't pull top speed with that gearing, or, it will certainly take a lot longer getting there.

But it will cirtainly be lazy. Very lazy.

Depends what you want from your cars I guess. The links should help you tune it how you want.

Google translate helps. ;)
Title: Re: diff, repair or second hand?
Post by: manolo on 04 September 2013, 07:50:14
It would be interesting to see the performance (acceleration) with 4.22 diff and Ultra Light Billet Steel Flywheel  :D
http://www.courtenaysport.co.uk/v6-tuning/info_21.html (http://www.courtenaysport.co.uk/v6-tuning/info_21.html)

(yes, google translate helps a lot  :y)
Title: Re: diff, repair or second hand?
Post by: manolo on 07 September 2013, 14:59:01
found manual for repar
http://vauxhall.workshop-manuals.com/omega-b/index.php?id=1570 (http://vauxhall.workshop-manuals.com/omega-b/index.php?id=1570)
Title: Re: diff, repair or second hand?
Post by: manolo on 08 September 2013, 09:28:37
where to buy shim outer ???  :-\

1.9
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2.0
8961490 408807

2.1
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