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Title: What have I done with my nav disc?
Post by: chrisgixer on 21 October 2013, 21:16:42
In the spirit of TB's old "where have I put my bike keys" thread....


Wtf have I done with my Nav disc?  Looked in all the cd cases, it's not in the car, or the office and car related stuff. And no its not in the other garage either. :(

Haven't lent it out have I? No, didn't think so.

Its driving me mad, I know I put it somewhere safe, that I'd remember. Eejit! ;D
Title: Re: What have I done with my nav disc?
Post by: cam2502 on 21 October 2013, 21:37:30
It's in the last place you put it  ;D ;D
Title: Re: What have I done with my nav disc?
Post by: 05omegav6 on 21 October 2013, 21:58:49
Not in the HU or disc changer  :-\
Title: Re: What have I done with my nav disc?
Post by: chrisgixer on 21 October 2013, 22:12:37
Not in HU.

Could have sworn I put the nav disc in the cd case belonging to the cd that's now in the nav slot. I took the nav disc out because the HU kept ejecting it randomly. So clearly the HU is constantly reading the disc and wearing the laser. Not so a CD, so the CD stayed in.

Well I guess the nav laser is safe for a while longer. Until I find it. :-\
Title: Re: What have I done with my nav disc?
Post by: TheBoy on 22 October 2013, 20:03:44
One of mine is no rather good - when the unit loses its speed signal, it never updates its GPS location, as it (kinda rightly) assumes you no movio, so GPS must be borrox.
Title: Re: What have I done with my nav disc?
Post by: chrisgixer on 22 October 2013, 20:21:00
Tomtom keeps driving my up garden paths. Literally.

It's either motorways, or two/one wheel tracks. Or, it refuses to accept certain roads exist. Like the road by spindlesham mill between Readring (not a typo) and Reading.

I'm literally two minutes from my house before it re routes. Telling me to u-turn onto a 20min diversion to the same destination just round the corner. Poxy arsing thing.   >:(

Or, another one. Bracknell to Reading. 329 all the way right? Wrong. In Tomtoms world. No you have to turn off the m4jcn 10, go up to 11, come back through the Earley, back to winnersh and back on to the 329 there. Wtf?  ???
 Its like it doesn't know there's a bridge Accross the m4 at jcn 10.  ???

Stupid Dutch numpties!

Having said that, its easier to programme that than the ncdc, and I know where I'm going locally. Sometimes ::)

;D


There's a belting storm here btw. :o
Title: Re: What have I done with my nav disc?
Post by: TheBoy on 22 October 2013, 20:30:40
Now do you understand why mine was disposed off just as I came off the Aston Expressway?

Absolutely useless bloody things. But on the upside, does work when your ABS ECU doesn't ;D.
Title: Re: What have I done with my nav disc?
Post by: TheBoy on 22 October 2013, 20:31:36
Actually, thats a lie, it still doesn't work - invariably for the important last mile, I revert to my old BT training for finding customer premises...  ...drive around in ever decreasing circles...
Title: Re: What have I done with my nav disc?
Post by: chrisgixer on 22 October 2013, 22:11:44
It seems to be the Cross country bit it struggles with. Lanes and minor roads.

Built up areas are fine.
Title: Re: What have I done with my nav disc?
Post by: Andy B on 22 October 2013, 22:13:43
....


Wtf have I done with my Nav disc?   .....

 ::)
(http://www.az.co.uk/images/productimages/covers/9781843485148_6_c.jpg)
Title: Re: What have I done with my nav disc?
Post by: Vamps on 22 October 2013, 22:14:35
....


Wtf have I done with my Nav disc?   .....

 ::)
(http://www.az.co.uk/images/productimages/covers/9781843485148_6_c.jpg)

Nice one Andy............. :D :D :y
Title: Re: What have I done with my nav disc?
Post by: chrisgixer on 22 October 2013, 22:18:44
Yeah modern technology hasn't reached Bury the a North yet, has it? ;D
Title: Re: What have I done with my nav disc?
Post by: Andy B on 22 October 2013, 22:27:49
Yeah modern technology hasn't reached Bury the a North yet, has it? ;D

It must have ......... my TomTom directs me where I want it to without driving up local garden paths  ;) ;) ;)
Title: Re: What have I done with my nav disc?
Post by: chrisgixer on 22 October 2013, 22:36:28
Yeah modern technology hasn't reached Bury the a North yet, has it? ;D

It must have ......... my TomTom directs me where I want it to without driving up local garden paths  ;) ;) ;)

The last mile to Newent is a bit tricky, so fair do's. Bit excessive for one journey though. :P
Title: Re: What have I done with my nav disc?
Post by: Entwood on 22 October 2013, 22:36:51
What Map versions are you guys using ??

My Tom Tom Go700 (extremely ancient) is using the latest Western Europe 915 map and has none of the problems mentioned, it seems to avoid garden paths with some alacrity ..  :)
Title: Re: What have I done with my nav disc?
Post by: chrisgixer on 22 October 2013, 22:43:04
V1.12...? Does that help? :-\
Title: Re: What have I done with my nav disc?
Post by: Andy B on 22 October 2013, 22:45:14
Yeah modern technology hasn't reached Bury the a North yet, has it? ;D

It must have ......... my TomTom directs me where I want it to without driving up local garden paths  ;) ;) ;)

The last mile to Newent is a bit tricky, so fair do's. Bit excessive for one journey though. :P

I failed the first time going to Newent, but that was pre TomTom and using CARiN. Daz & CapnZok came to the town centre to guide me in ........ so to speak!  ???  :y
Title: Re: What have I done with my nav disc?
Post by: chrisgixer on 22 October 2013, 22:48:29
Map v895.4450 uk r of e
Title: Re: What have I done with my nav disc?
Post by: Entwood on 22 October 2013, 22:57:28
Map v895.4450 uk r of e

895 was last October, so not too far out-of-date, should work reasonably well.. :(
Title: Re: What have I done with my nav disc?
Post by: bigegg on 23 October 2013, 00:05:42
Not sure I'd ever trust a satnav where the *disc* gets lost  ;D
Title: Re: What have I done with my nav disc?
Post by: Vamps on 23 October 2013, 00:45:56
Not sure I'd ever trust a satnav where the *disc* gets lost  ;D

 ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D :y :y
Title: Re: What have I done with my nav disc?
Post by: chrisgixer on 23 October 2013, 06:45:05
Not sure I'd ever trust a satnav where the *disc* gets lost  ;D

 ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D :y :y

;D ;D :y
Title: Re: What have I done with my nav disc?
Post by: Kevin Wood on 23 October 2013, 09:51:52
For the job I expect of it, TomTom is fine for me, with the advantage that you can take it and all your favourites to any car and no messing about with CDs that get lost and readers with dodgy lasers.

Can't recall any time it has sent me up the garden path with recent maps and the GPS receivers are so good these days that there isn't a need for it to be built-in with speed signal input, etc.
Title: Re: What have I done with my nav disc?
Post by: Entwood on 23 October 2013, 09:58:54
For the job I expect of it, TomTom is fine for me, with the advantage that you can take it and all your favourites to any car and no messing about with CDs that get lost and readers with dodgy lasers.

Can't recall any time it has sent me up the garden path with recent maps and the GPS receivers are so good these days that there isn't a need for it to be built-in with speed signal input, etc.

Totally agree, plus it can easily be updated - both data (maps) and Operating System - via the internet at zero cost, and personal preferences, points of interest etc, can be added, which cannot be said for built-in CD driven devices.

:)
Title: Re: What have I done with my nav disc?
Post by: Lazydocker on 23 October 2013, 10:05:19
Bear in mind Chris uses TT for iPhone. Mind you, I use it and so do all of my lads and it is superb. Full live traffic and perfect directions 98% of the time :y
Title: Re: What have I done with my nav disc?
Post by: VXL V6 on 23 October 2013, 10:09:01
For the job I expect of it, TomTom is fine for me, with the advantage that you can take it and all your favourites to any car and no messing about with CDs that get lost and readers with dodgy lasers.

Can't recall any time it has sent me up the garden path with recent maps and the GPS receivers are so good these days that there isn't a need for it to be built-in with speed signal input, etc.

Totally agree, plus it can easily be updated - both data (maps) and Operating System - via the internet at zero cost, and personal preferences, points of interest etc, can be added, which cannot be said for built-in CD driven devices.

:)

Still prefer my NCDC, it works where my Tom Tom doesn't (Heat reflective windscreen) and as no modern Tom Tom's have an external antenna input I'm stuck with an ancient Go model!

The Laser issue can be fixed, I've done a few now!

I would still buy an up to date Tom Tom if I could buy a fixed active dock with external antenna connection.......

Title: Re: What have I done with my nav disc?
Post by: Kevin Wood on 23 October 2013, 11:52:58
I'm still using an old TomTom One. Put the latest maps and firmware on it and it's fine, and it has an antenna connector.

Oh, and I forgot to mention LPG POIs. Couldn't live without those.
Title: Re: What have I done with my nav disc?
Post by: chrisgixer on 23 October 2013, 12:11:03
Yes there's no adding poi's to ncdc navs, obviously.

And appologies. I should have said the Tomtom is iPhone based. Twice the trouble probably. ;)
Title: Re: What have I done with my nav disc?
Post by: aaronjb on 23 October 2013, 12:20:34
Something weird with your settings I think Chris .. my house to Reading Station, my phone (TomTom) takes me up the A329 all the way to the A4, into the middle of town (more or less), under the railway bridge and to the station North car park.. no detours needed.

Having said that my map version now is 915.5112, but I've been using it for at least a year or more without problems. Don't tend to use it now to find the station but did the first couple of times..

For a decent free alternative I've been using Waze recently, quite nice if you ignore the 'social' features.
Title: Re: What have I done with my nav disc?
Post by: TheBoy on 23 October 2013, 19:11:02
My issues with TT are the dreadful routes it picks, and the fact it is utterly hopeless in built up or wooded areas. In fact so hopeless, its a hinderence.

I actually still have an old iPAQ that runs an old version with fairly old maps, and because it has an external antenna, is a million times better than the all-in-one ones that everyone sticks to their windscreen. This remains my weapon of choice for when I have to use a non proper satnav. Routes presented still suck though.
Title: Re: What have I done with my nav disc?
Post by: TheBoy on 23 October 2013, 19:12:39
Oh, and I forgot to mention LPG POIs. Couldn't live without those.
Officially, the crApple versions of TT can't use any external POIs.

You found a good POI source? The Calor/Shell one isn't too bad, but not found anything more inclusive.
Title: Re: What have I done with my nav disc?
Post by: 05omegav6 on 23 October 2013, 19:17:59
Only have issues with my TT in trucks, as it isn't a truck dedicated one so doesn't show weight or height limits :'( a real pita if in unfamiliar territory as signage nowadays is woeful...
Title: Re: What have I done with my nav disc?
Post by: TheBoy on 23 October 2013, 19:32:56
Only have issues with my TT in trucks, as it isn't a truck dedicated one so doesn't show weight or height limits :'( a real pita if in unfamiliar territory as signage nowadays is woeful...
I thought they did (or used to), but bloody expensive, so drivers used consumer ones, and all the media went beserk over how poor satnavs were
Title: Re: What have I done with my nav disc?
Post by: 05omegav6 on 23 October 2013, 20:13:31
Only have issues with my TT in trucks, as it isn't a truck dedicated one so doesn't show weight or height limits :'( a real pita if in unfamiliar territory as signage nowadays is woeful...
I thought they did (or used to), but bloody expensive, so drivers used consumer ones, and all the media went beserk over how poor satnavs were
Still do £329 apparently  :y

 http://www.tomtom.com/en_gb/products/your-drive/truck-navigation/  (http://www.tomtom.com/en_gb/products/your-drive/truck-navigation/)
Title: Re: What have I done with my nav disc?
Post by: chrisgixer on 24 October 2013, 15:58:39
For the job I expect of it, TomTom is fine for me, with the advantage that you can take it and all your favourites to any car and no messing about with CDs that get lost and readers with dodgy lasers.

Can't recall any time it has sent me up the garden path with recent maps and the GPS receivers are so good these days that there isn't a need for it to be built-in with speed signal input, etc.

Totally agree, plus it can easily be updated - both data (maps) and Operating System - via the internet at zero cost, and personal preferences, points of interest etc, can be added, which cannot be said for built-in CD driven devices.

:)

Still prefer my NCDC, it works where my Tom Tom doesn't (Heat reflective windscreen) and as no modern Tom Tom's have an external antenna input I'm stuck with an ancient Go model!

The Laser issue can be fixed, I've done a few now!

I would still buy an up to date Tom Tom if I could buy a fixed active dock with external antenna connection.......



iPhone with a blu tooth GPS module?

What's involved with replacing the laser? Tricky?



Title: Re: What have I done with my nav disc?
Post by: Kevin Wood on 24 October 2013, 16:23:54
Oh, and I forgot to mention LPG POIs. Couldn't live without those.
Officially, the crApple versions of TT can't use any external POIs.

You found a good POI source? The Calor/Shell one isn't too bad, but not found anything more inclusive.

I downloaded one in a hurry recently, after rebuilding my TomTo and it's not too bad. Can't remember where it came from but will check. It has a lot of "off forecourt" places which may or may not be there, but good up-to-date info on the mainstream stations from what a 550 mile journey and a bit of local messing around has shown. Unless desperate, I tend to go for the POI names that are obviously mainstream (Shell / Morrisons, etc.).
Title: Re: What have I done with my nav disc?
Post by: chrisgixer on 24 October 2013, 16:37:04
Problem I've had with poi's is they include every single possible lpg related outlet. From farm shops to central heating installers, to old forecourts that no longer exist.

Barely 50% of use, ime. :(
Title: Re: What have I done with my nav disc?
Post by: TheBoy on 24 October 2013, 18:03:20
iPhone with a blu tooth GPS module?
Dream on ;D

What's involved with replacing the laser? Tricky?
For you? Impossible I'd say. Involves lektricity, so you're 'dangle berries'ed
Title: Re: What have I done with my nav disc?
Post by: VXL V6 on 24 October 2013, 18:26:31
What's involved with replacing the laser? Tricky?
For you? Impossible I'd say. Involves lektricity, so you're 'dangle berries'ed
I'm trying to keep a straight face but failing miserably
Title: Re: What have I done with my nav disc?
Post by: chrisgixer on 24 October 2013, 18:32:54
iPhone with a blu tooth GPS module?
Dream on ;D

What's involved with replacing the laser? Tricky?
For you? Impossible I'd say. Involves lektricity, so you're 'dangle berries'ed
Aye? ....h u removal, which you needed my help with the other day. ;D then I'm assuming a load of small screws and cases to reveal a mechanism, with a single electrical plug, and possibly some small cogs and springs that run off and hide just when you need them. No?
Title: Re: What have I done with my nav disc?
Post by: TheBoy on 24 October 2013, 18:56:24
iPhone with a blu tooth GPS module?
Dream on ;D

What's involved with replacing the laser? Tricky?
For you? Impossible I'd say. Involves lektricity, so you're 'dangle berries'ed
Aye? ....h u removal, which you needed my help with the other day. ;D then I'm assuming a load of small screws and cases to reveal a mechanism, with a single electrical plug, and possibly some small cogs and springs that run off and hide just when you need them. No?
I suspect I needed your tool. Works well, that does :y

No, don't attempt it yourself. Buy that Wood bloke a curry, and get him to do it. There are things you are good at, and things that you need to learn by watching someone else, as it has invisible pixies running around with electrons. No disrespect intended, hope none taken.

Its not quite unbolt, 1 connector, rebolt together anyway.
Title: Re: What have I done with my nav disc?
Post by: TheBoy on 24 October 2013, 18:58:20
Should add, happy to assist. One of the few jobs I do still have enough tools for ;D
Title: Re: What have I done with my nav disc?
Post by: chrisgixer on 24 October 2013, 19:27:06
Should add, happy to assist. One of the few jobs I do still have enough tools for ;D
Non taken at all. But slightly more info? Maybe? Prety please? :)
Title: Re: What have I done with my nav disc?
Post by: TheBoy on 24 October 2013, 19:34:11
Next one I do, I'll do a guide. Bullet's one needs doing soon, not too bad at moment, but hates hot days.
Title: Re: What have I done with my nav disc?
Post by: chrisgixer on 24 October 2013, 19:45:27
Ok Dad. :)
Title: Re: What have I done with my nav disc?
Post by: TheBoy on 24 October 2013, 19:51:29
Ok Dad. :)
I could guide you through the mech removal with eyes shut, but stripping mech, I couldn't do it from memory without one in front of me.
Title: Re: What have I done with my nav disc?
Post by: VXL V6 on 24 October 2013, 20:00:00
Ok Dad. :)
I could guide you through the mech removal with eyes shut, but stripping mech, I couldn't do it from memory without one in front of me.
Happy to help here  :y
Oh and no offense intended to Chris with earlier comment, just the terminology (un-word sensored) that made I laugh.
Title: Re: What have I done with my nav disc?
Post by: chrisgixer on 24 October 2013, 20:06:08
FFS. Not offended.  >:(

;D
Title: Re: What have I done with my nav disc?
Post by: chrisgixer on 24 October 2013, 20:07:21
Is there soldering or wiring involved?
Title: Re: What have I done with my nav disc?
Post by: VXL V6 on 24 October 2013, 20:09:13
Is there soldering or wiring involved?
Nope.
How urgent is this repair needed?
Title: Re: What have I done with my nav disc?
Post by: chrisgixer on 24 October 2013, 20:32:24
Is there soldering or wiring involved?
Nope.
How urgent is this repair needed?



Bah! I'll be fine then. :P

Not at all urgent. I can't find the disc ;D
Title: Re: What have I done with my nav disc?
Post by: TheBoy on 24 October 2013, 20:35:47
Is there soldering or wiring involved?
Nope.
How urgent is this repair needed?
The (only) one I did, sure I had to solder ribbon in place...  ...that said, I didn't supply the laser.

How bad is it, is it mostly working, so more of an annoyance (like the one in the bullet), or unusable?
Title: Re: What have I done with my nav disc?
Post by: biggriffin on 24 October 2013, 20:44:44
Only have issues with my TT in trucks, as it isn't a truck dedicated one so doesn't show weight or height limits :'( a real pita if in unfamiliar territory as signage nowadays is woeful...
a true professional driver uses a sat nav as an aid, input the route and then check on a road map then a street atlas for nearer the delivery point,also knowledge helps and now you have google maps to help as well.
Title: Re: What have I done with my nav disc?
Post by: MR MISTER on 24 October 2013, 20:56:27
Only have issues with my TT in trucks, as it isn't a truck dedicated one so doesn't show weight or height limits :'( a real pita if in unfamiliar territory as signage nowadays is woeful...
a true professional driver uses a sat nav as an aid, input the route and then check on a road map then a street atlas for nearer the delivery point,also knowledge helps and now you have google maps to help as well.
That told him. ;D
Title: Re: What have I done with my nav disc?
Post by: VXL V6 on 24 October 2013, 21:06:13
Is there soldering or wiring involved?
Nope.
How urgent is this repair needed?
The (only) one I did, sure I had to solder ribbon in place...  ...that said, I didn't supply the laser.

How bad is it, is it mostly working, so more of an annoyance (like the one in the bullet), or unusable?
Never had to do any soldering on the ones I've done.
Title: Re: What have I done with my nav disc?
Post by: chrisgixer on 24 October 2013, 21:09:35
Is there soldering or wiring involved?
Nope.
How urgent is this repair needed?
The (only) one I did, sure I had to solder ribbon in place...  ...that said, I didn't supply the laser.

How bad is it, is it mostly working, so more of an annoyance (like the one in the bullet), or unusable?
Is there soldering or wiring involved?
Nope.
How urgent is this repair needed?
The (only) one I did, sure I had to solder ribbon in place...  ...that said, I didn't supply the laser.

How bad is it, is it mostly working, so more of an annoyance (like the one in the bullet), or unusable?
Mine? Only issue. Apart from continually sending the me the wrong way down the m40 from the a43...? ;D

It spits the disc out occasionally. Fine otherwise.
Title: Re: What have I done with my nav disc?
Post by: 05omegav6 on 24 October 2013, 21:33:49
Only have issues with my TT in trucks, as it isn't a truck dedicated one so doesn't show weight or height limits :'( a real pita if in unfamiliar territory as signage nowadays is woeful...
a true professional driver uses a sat nav as an aid, input the route and then check on a road map then a street atlas for nearer the delivery point,also knowledge helps and now you have google maps to help as well.
;D Fine if your doing regular runs to regular places. Half the sites I get sent to don't technically exist ::)

Does also help if the signs for bridges etc are maintained ahead of the relevant bridge rather than at the bridge itself...

I generally only use it as an aide de memoir rather than the be all/end all. I don't call it 'The Idiot Box' for nothing ::)