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Omega Help Area => Omega General Help => Topic started by: Webby the Bear on 04 November 2013, 21:33:44
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Whilst you fine fellows have been sitting indoors snuggling up with the wife in front of the fire, young Bear has been working on his Omega in the freezing cold! Haha I say freezing but it wasn't bad at all. I DIGRESS.
Firstly I trust it's usual for the car to sound like a bag of shite with the bagpipes out and ancillaries removed?
Ok so to locate this squeaking I stripped down the front stuff. as said i'd already run the car without the aux belt and the squeaking remained.
every time I removed a component I started the car until it went away..... as soon as I removed the aux belt tensioner it went away. ::) had problems with this previously. god knows how I'm going to get around that.
anyways, more important than that was when I gave the belt and pulleys the once over.... belt looks clean and dry although its quite far back on the cam sprockets. that normal???......
(http://i1226.photobucket.com/albums/ee402/webbybear1/sqeal1_zpsd474c2f2.jpg) (http://s1226.photobucket.com/user/webbybear1/media/sqeal1_zpsd474c2f2.jpg.html)
then looked at the tensioner and idlers :o :o :o :o :o :o theyre all appear to be leaking grease.... I trust this isn't normal??? :'(
(http://i1226.photobucket.com/albums/ee402/webbybear1/squeal2_zps6b6fbf1d.jpg) (http://s1226.photobucket.com/user/webbybear1/media/squeal2_zps6b6fbf1d.jpg.html)
(http://i1226.photobucket.com/albums/ee402/webbybear1/squeal3_zps1f7494c9.jpg) (http://s1226.photobucket.com/user/webbybear1/media/squeal3_zps1f7494c9.jpg.html)
(http://i1226.photobucket.com/albums/ee402/webbybear1/squeal5_zpsff16e9aa.jpg) (http://s1226.photobucket.com/user/webbybear1/media/squeal5_zpsff16e9aa.jpg.html)
new cambelt kit??????
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Where on earth did you buy that kit from :o
I'd be taking it straight back for a full refund, and buying from VX :-\
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Where on earth did you buy that kit from :o
I'd be taking it straight back for a full refund, and buying from VX :-\
That's a contitech kit >:( >:( >:( >:( >:(
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And thats the same kit that failed last time >:(
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And thats the same kit that failed last time >:(
Yep. The first time I simply assumed it was my cock-up and i'd done something wrong. Looks like this wouldn't last long at all!!!!!
This time i'm definitely looking for refund and whatever else I can get!!!
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Pattern parts shit and not lasting? Surely not ::)
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Yep, the bearings from new will be slightly over packed with grease, on first running they expel the excess, perfectly normal.
Nothing wrong there at all.
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Not seen grease leak from 2.2's tensioner :-\
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Not seen grease leak from 2.2's tensioner :-\
They do, and from the idlers.
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Not seen grease leak from 2.2's tensioner :-\
They do, and from the idlers.
Will have to pop cover off & have a look, certainly last kit came off showed no signs.
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No i havent either but then i always use genuine parts. :y
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Pattern parts shit and not lasting? Surely not ::)
To be fair to me I was under the impression that Contitech was a kit make that OOF recommended?
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Contitech are genuine parts.
But then I have probably seen and done more cambelts on Omegas than the sum of the people posted so far have ;D :y
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Always used Conti's never had a problem :-\
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Yep, the bearings from new will be slightly over packed with grease, on first running they expel the excess, perfectly normal.
Nothing wrong there at all.
Ok thanks Mark. ill button it back up then :y
Is it worth putting a bit of wd40 on the belt re the squeaking in case its to do with it ''settling in''? :)
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Pattern parts shit and not lasting? Surely not ::)
To be fair to me I was under the impression that Contitech was a kit make that OOF recommended?
Yeah, I was taking pish ;D
That and gates are the kits, personally I still get mine from GM as the dealer was so close and handy.
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Pattern parts shit and not lasting? Surely not ::)
To be fair to me I was under the impression that Contitech was a kit make that OOF recommended?
Yeah, I was taking pish ;D
That and gates are the kits, personally I still get mine from GM as the dealer was so close and handy.
I thought there was a big cost difference from the dealer? Anyway, it's good to know it's ok. Heart was in my arse for a minute ;D
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Normal webby. Every kit I change that's done a few miles has had lots of grease signs :y
I've fitted countless conti kits...
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Cheers James :y
Reading on another Omega thread....
http://www.omegaowners.com/forum/index.php?topic=85364.0
....it's noted that this exact thing including the squeaking has happened to this dude.
The squeaking down to the paint of the letters printed being thick ??? WD40 cleared this.....
What do we think girls??? :)
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Pattern parts shit and not lasting? Surely not ::)
To be fair to me I was under the impression that Contitech was a kit make that OOF recommended?
Yeah, I was taking pish ;D
That and gates are the kits, personally I still get mine from GM as the dealer was so close and handy.
I thought there was a big cost difference from the dealer? Anyway, it's good to know it's ok. Heart was in my arse for a minute ;D
Been almost 3 years since I got one, things have changed. V6 water pumps used to be cheap at dealer. Not sure where I will go next, due one early next year on 2.2 going by miles
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I wouldn't be spraying wd40 onto a cam belt. Wd40 is only a water displacement and won't add any value, Cambelt is a dry environment ..
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Don't put wd40 anywhere near it, its only any use as a quick diag tool
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Always used Conti kits - this as said is normal.
Agreed keep WD40 away from cam belt ;)
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ok thanks boys. so this squeaking...... if its the paint of the markings i trust theres nowt i can do about this? :-\
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It is too dark to see in this photo, is the belt in contact with the backplate? (http://i1226.photobucket.com/albums/ee402/webbybear1/sqeal1_zpsd474c2f2.jpg)
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Yeah sorry for poor quality but I only got my old Nokia and it was dark ;D
the belt doesn't APPEAR to be touching it and its also clear (just) of the rear cam cover bolts.
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ps as mentioned.... i trust the car should sound lke a tractor without the bagpipes and stuff?
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Been almost 3 years since I got one, things have changed. V6 water pumps used to be cheap at dealer. Not sure where I will go next, due one early next year on 2.2 going by miles
Buy an SKF Aux Belt kit for a V6 and you'll get a complete tensioner assembly and a water pump in the box :y
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ps as mentioned.... i trust the car should sound lke a tractor without the bagpipes and stuff?
Yes. :y
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ps as mentioned.... i trust the car should sound lke a tractor without the bagpipes and stuff?
Yes. :y
That's really good to know as it sounded like Ralf did when he was 5 teeth out :o ;D
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ps one final thing to note. one of the reasons I whipped this belt cover off in such a hurry was (in addition to the squeaking) a smell of burning when I sniffed down the scuttle of my latest journey in her. the smell was EXACTLY like the smoking cambelt that saw me, martin and steve stranded in oxford :-[
obviously it was nowhere near as bad but it was noticeable when I shoved my head round the scuttle when the engine had been running for about an hour.
ANYWAY one thing I forgot to mention (in all the ''oh shite my tensioner's loosing grease'' commotion) was that just before I removed the belt cover there was a piece if old shredded belt hanging down ??? then when I got the belt cover off there was a bit of a ''gathering'' of shredded belt parts round under the crank sprocket.
how weird is that! I gave everything a really good clean to get rid of this shite before I put it back together so where did this come from lol its definitely not the new belt but where were those pieces hiding :o
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one final thing (sorry I know i'm annoying)
heres day time pics of the belt on the sprockets (although still shite quality - note to self, buy better camera). I trust this is normal... the belt to be quite far back on the cam sprockets and the belt to be as far back on the idlers as they'll go....tried to get a piece of paper down the back to make sure there was some space but I couldn't get the paper to bend down at the back. very tricky. was just trying to validate that it wasn't touching the rear cover. I am fairly confident i'm worrying about nothing but its nice to know that I've covered every avenue :)
(http://i1226.photobucket.com/albums/ee402/webbybear1/tod1_zps86fc8b4c.jpg) (http://s1226.photobucket.com/user/webbybear1/media/tod1_zps86fc8b4c.jpg.html)
(http://i1226.photobucket.com/albums/ee402/webbybear1/tod2_zps8ab2757d.jpg) (http://s1226.photobucket.com/user/webbybear1/media/tod2_zps8ab2757d.jpg.html)
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Clearly you failed to remove all the biits of shredded belt.
I have heard a slight squeek where the belt makes slight contact with the cover on add occasions, normaly slackening the cover botls and re-positioning it slightly sorts it
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Clearly you failed to remove all the biits of shredded belt.
I have heard a slight squeek where the belt makes slight contact with the cover on add occasions, normaly slackening the cover botls and re-positioning it slightly sorts it
thanks mark. :)
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ps one final thing to note. one of the reasons I whipped this belt cover off in such a hurry was (in addition to the squeaking) a smell of burning when I sniffed down the scuttle of my latest journey in her. the smell was EXACTLY like the smoking cambelt that saw me, martin and steve stranded in oxford :-[
obviously it was nowhere near as bad but it was noticeable when I shoved my head round the scuttle when the engine had been running for about an hour.
ANYWAY one thing I forgot to mention (in all the ''oh shite my tensioner's loosing grease'' commotion) was that just before I removed the belt cover there was a piece if old shredded belt hanging down ??? then when I got the belt cover off there was a bit of a ''gathering'' of shredded belt parts round under the crank sprocket.
how weird is that! I gave everything a really good clean to get rid of this shite before I put it back together so where did this come from lol its definitely not the new belt but where were those pieces hiding :o
Probably the source of your burning smell ;)
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ps one final thing to note. one of the reasons I whipped this belt cover off in such a hurry was (in addition to the squeaking) a smell of burning when I sniffed down the scuttle of my latest journey in her. the smell was EXACTLY like the smoking cambelt that saw me, martin and steve stranded in oxford :-[
obviously it was nowhere near as bad but it was noticeable when I shoved my head round the scuttle when the engine had been running for about an hour.
ANYWAY one thing I forgot to mention (in all the ''oh shite my tensioner's loosing grease'' commotion) was that just before I removed the belt cover there was a piece if old shredded belt hanging down ??? then when I got the belt cover off there was a bit of a ''gathering'' of shredded belt parts round under the crank sprocket.
how weird is that! I gave everything a really good clean to get rid of this shite before I put it back together so where did this come from lol its definitely not the new belt but where were those pieces hiding :o
Probably the source of your burning smell ;)
Hopefully it wasnt from the new belt. im going to rotate the engine several times and double check the belt for piece of mind. certainly havent seen any problems with it so far. :)