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Title: And Droooooooooolllllll
Post by: Vamps on 28 November 2013, 22:39:42
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Vauxhall-Lotus-Carlton-3-6-L-Twin-Turbo-/141126872764?pt=Automobiles_UK&hash=item20dbd12ebc
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Post by: kevinp58 on 28 November 2013, 22:45:24
mmmmmmmmmmmm Sexaaaaaay :-* :-* :-* :-* :-*
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Post by: henryd on 28 November 2013, 23:03:21
beautiful,but 39 grand,phew :o
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Post by: plym ian on 28 November 2013, 23:33:54
Dear mr bank manager

This year I have been really good and I think need a nice £39000 loan.

Yours truly

Ian

Xxxx
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Post by: Sir Tigger KC on 28 November 2013, 23:45:26
I bet that lpg system from that shed of a Carlton estate in the other thread would drop right in that!!  :D  ;D
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Post by: Andy B on 28 November 2013, 23:50:42
I bet that lpg system from that shed of a Carlton estate in the other thread would drop right in that!!  :D  ;D

you should be shot in front of your family for even thinking of desecrating a motoring icon!  ::) ::) ::) ::) ;)
Title: Re: And Droooooooooolllllll
Post by: Vamps on 28 November 2013, 23:52:40
I bet that lpg system from that shed of a Carlton estate in the other thread would drop right in that!!  :D  ;D

you should be shot in front of your family for even thinking of desecrating a motoring icon!  ::) ::) ::) ::) ;)

 :D :D :y
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Post by: Sir Tigger KC on 28 November 2013, 23:59:35
OK OK I know....  :-[

Butchering that poor sad old estate would be a terrible thing.....  :'(  ;D
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Post by: Andy B on 29 November 2013, 00:00:10
Incidently (sp?) .......   recently-ish saw a comparative article in a motor magazine of a Lotus Carlton & an Insignia. Performance aside, the Insignia dwarfed the Carlton! Another example of how cars have grown over the years.
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Post by: Andy B on 29 November 2013, 00:03:20
OK OK I know....  :-[

Butchering that poor sad old estate would be a terrible thing.....  :'(  ;D

 ...... and I very nearly added a similar comment!  ;D ;D ;D ;D

The only Carlton estate I've ever driven had a 'business load' (black Carlton used as a 'private ambulance'  ???) .....
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Post by: albitz on 29 November 2013, 00:22:06
I would be asking for ;) all the plastics to be removed to inspect for tinworm before parting with almost £40k for it.
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Post by: Andy B on 29 November 2013, 00:32:43
I would be asking for ;) all the plastics to be removed to inspect for tinworm before parting with almost £40k for it.

GRP  ::)
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Post by: albitz on 29 November 2013, 00:36:14
Glass reinforced PLASTIC.  :P ::)
They tend to rot like hell underneath the grPLASTIC. :)
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Post by: Andy B on 29 November 2013, 00:41:00
Glass reinforced PLASTIC.  :P ::)
They tend to rot like hell underneath the grPLASTIC. :)

I believe they do ...... no first hand experience though. I did take one (H10TUS) on at the lights many years ago in my Senator (same-ish engine  ::) ::) ;D) he was a dot in the distance in second(s)  :o :o Caught him up at the next lights though  ;)


Maybe Malc can fill us in n the details  ;) ;)
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Post by: biggriffin on 29 November 2013, 05:27:37
That's  VXR8 estate money. Now which would i prefer. ???
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Post by: Dan282 on 29 November 2013, 06:32:08
You will never lose money on that! ;)
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Post by: cem_devecioglu on 29 November 2013, 09:29:44
I would be asking for ;) all the plastics to be removed to inspect for tinworm before parting with almost £40k for it.

yep..
 
 
£40K for an old banger.. no thanks..
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Post by: Entwood on 29 November 2013, 11:35:36
I would be asking for ;) all the plastics to be removed to inspect for tinworm before parting with almost £40k for it.

yep..
 
 
£40K for an old banger.. no thanks..

I'd happily pay £285,000 for an "old banger" if I had the money ....

Old Banger  (http://www.vintagerollsroycecars.com/car-details/1919-silver-ghost-with-alpine-eagle-specification-chassis_661.html)
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Post by: Andy B on 29 November 2013, 12:02:47
...

I'd happily pay £285,000 for an "old banger" if I had the money ....

Old Banger  (http://www.vintagerollsroycecars.com/car-details/1919-silver-ghost-with-alpine-eagle-specification-chassis_661.html)

If only ........
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Post by: Kevin Wood on 29 November 2013, 12:15:01
That's  VXR8 estate money. Now which would i prefer. ???

Yep, from a driving and maintenance perspective, I'd take a standard LS V8 engined car over an aged, tuned-beyond-its'-original-spec straight 6 any day. I doubt there'd be much to choose performance wise anyway. The LC is a bit more of an icon, though. :-*
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Post by: LC0112G on 29 November 2013, 15:35:57
I've owned mine since October 1995. The tax rules had just changed on company cars, and my 2.0 GSi Chavalier (J880CYB IIRC) was at the end of it's lease period and coming up to 90K miles. Choice was something 'new' (like a £30K Omega Elite), or something 5 years old (like an LC), or keep the Chavaler on a peppercorn lease.

I should have kept the Chavalier AND bought something 5 years old. I let the Chav go for £1K ('kin idiot). Do I regret not buying the Elite (for £30K), and going for the 5 year old LC instead (for 24K)? Do I need to answer that question? Really? The (now) 18 year old omega would be worth what - probably depend how much fuel was in it! My LC isn't a good example, but it's possibly still worth £10-£15K, although it will never be for sale.

LC's do rust and rot. Rear wheel arches, rear doors, dog-leg door shuts, cills and rear bumper panels are the most prevalent. All these parts are standard carlton so can be replaced/repaired by a good body shop. Don't skip on it though - do it properly. There are mechanical pitfalls too and spare parts can be difficult, but after 18 years of owning one I'm now pretty good at fixining mine.

My Elite is a good car - a good motorway cruiser and the interior is a whole lot quieter and more sophisticated than the LC. But if you want to set your hair on fire every time you drive something, try an LC. Yes it's old, unsophisticated and noisy. But by god it puts a smile on your face on a twisty road. 

This car? It'll never sell for £39K. One that's had all the tin-rot cut out and properly replaced might be worth £25K. Perhaps £30K for a pristine example. An average example perhaps £15-£20K. Take off £5K for LHD and another £5K if non standard in any way (wheels, chipped etc)
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Post by: Shackeng on 29 November 2013, 16:56:50
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Vauxhall-Lotus-Carlton-3-6-L-Twin-Turbo-/141126872764?pt=Automobiles_UK&hash=item20dbd12ebc

Strange no engine shots included. ???
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Post by: dbug on 29 November 2013, 17:13:08
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Vauxhall-Lotus-Carlton-3-6-L-Twin-Turbo-/141126872764?pt=Automobiles_UK&hash=item20dbd12ebc

Strange no engine shots included. ???

Scroll down mate - 2 engine pics ;)
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Post by: 05omegav6 on 29 November 2013, 17:27:56
The £5k saving buys alot of tyres and petrol...

 http://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/201311280197784/sort/default/usedcars/model/vxr8/page/1/radius/1500/make/vauxhall/postcode/rh202dg/quicksearch/true/onesearchad/used%2Cnearlynew%2Cnew/price-from/500?logcode=p  (http://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/201311280197784/sort/default/usedcars/model/vxr8/page/1/radius/1500/make/vauxhall/postcode/rh202dg/quicksearch/true/onesearchad/used%2Cnearlynew%2Cnew/price-from/500?logcode=p)

Decisions, decisions...
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Post by: Webby the Bear on 29 November 2013, 18:03:13
Gorgeous!!!!! I want one
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Post by: kevinp58 on 29 November 2013, 18:03:25
The £5k saving buys alot of tyres and petrol...

 http://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/201311280197784/sort/default/usedcars/model/vxr8/page/1/radius/1500/make/vauxhall/postcode/rh202dg/quicksearch/true/onesearchad/used%2Cnearlynew%2Cnew/price-from/500?logcode=p  (http://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/201311280197784/sort/default/usedcars/model/vxr8/page/1/radius/1500/make/vauxhall/postcode/rh202dg/quicksearch/true/onesearchad/used%2Cnearlynew%2Cnew/price-from/500?logcode=p)

Decisions, decisions...







 Not sure about those wheels though.  :-\
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Post by: albitz on 29 November 2013, 18:33:32
Choice between VXR8 and an LC would be an easy one for me. LC all day long. VXR isn't even really a Vauxhall,and is a hideous looking carbuncle of a thing. LC is pure VX class and dripping with heritage.
My dream garage would contain 3 Vauxhalls. An LC, a fully restored Senator 24v and a Chevette HS for old time sake and a bit of weekend fun around the local lanes.

EDIT. There would be a fourth actually. Omegatoys old Omega GLS with LC running gear.
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Post by: omega3000 on 29 November 2013, 19:05:40
Choice between VXR8 and an LC would be an easy one for me. LC all day long. VXR isn't even really a Vauxhall,and is a hideous looking carbuncle of a thing. LC is pure VX class and dripping with heritage.
My dream garage would contain 3 Vauxhalls. An LC, a fully restored Senator 24v and a Chevette HS for old time sake and a bit of weekend fun around the local lanes.

EDIT. There would be a fourth actually. Omegatoys old Omega GLS with LC running gear.

Is that still for sale  ::)
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Post by: albitz on 29 November 2013, 19:13:50
Afaik it sits unused on a driveway in Cambridge.  :y.................if I had the funds, it wouldn't be. :)
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Post by: omega3000 on 29 November 2013, 19:21:04
Afaik it sits unused on a driveway in Cambridge.  :y.................if I had the funds, it wouldn't be. :)

Yep , i remember seeing the picture a while back  :y
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Post by: Sir Tigger KC on 29 November 2013, 21:37:23
I'm gonna get howled at now, but I think that VXR8 looks like a very expensive Chav Chariot!!  :-X  ;D
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Post by: omega3000 on 29 November 2013, 22:25:21
I'm gonna get howled at now, but I think that VXR8 looks like a very expensive Chav Chariot!!  :-X  ;D


                                                    (http://i827.photobucket.com/albums/zz200/pepper2010_bucket/bth_smiley-hiding-hole.gif)
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Post by: Sir Tigger KC on 29 November 2013, 22:51:02
I'm gonna get howled at now, but I think that VXR8 looks like a very expensive Chav Chariot!!  :-X  ;D


                                                    (http://i827.photobucket.com/albums/zz200/pepper2010_bucket/bth_smiley-hiding-hole.gif)

Missed!!! Shuda gone to Specsavers!  :P  ;D ;D ;D
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Post by: 05omegav6 on 29 November 2013, 23:40:31
Agreed, the wheels could be alot better, but that is probably the best colour for that car 8)
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Post by: omega3000 on 30 November 2013, 06:57:57
Agreed, the wheels could be alot better, but that is probably the best colour for that car 8)

Only ever seen them in black  ??? Seen red or white GSI's  :-\
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Post by: Andy B on 30 November 2013, 09:00:10
Agreed, the wheels could be alot better, but that is probably the best colour for that car 8)

Only ever seen them in black  ??? Seen red or white GSI's  :-\

That's not the LC you're talking about is it? All Lotus Carltons were Imperial Green  ;)
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Post by: Field Marshal Dr. Opti on 30 November 2013, 10:39:52
I'm gonna get howled at now, but I think that VXR8 looks like a very expensive Chav Chariot!!  :-X  ;D

I agree, Sir Tig........ and way overpriced for a Vauxhall.

Sub £25,000 it makes sense.

Anything above that and it does not.
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Post by: Field Marshal Dr. Opti on 30 November 2013, 10:40:38
Agreed, the wheels could be alot better, but that is probably the best colour for that car 8)

Only ever seen them in black  ??? Seen red or white GSI's  :-\

That's not the LC you're talking about is it? All Lotus Carltons were Imperial Green  ;)


Yep..... :y
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Post by: Sir Tigger KC on 30 November 2013, 11:21:02
I'm gonna get howled at now, but I think that VXR8 looks like a very expensive Chav Chariot!!  :-X  ;D

I agree, Sir Tig........ and way overpriced for a Vauxhall.

Sub £25,000 it makes sense.

Anything above that and it does not.

For that sort of money I'd rather buy a good second hand Bentley Continental or Aston Martin.  :y

I guess there's no accounting for taste though.....  :-\ :-\ :-\  ;D ;D ;D
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Post by: 05omegav6 on 30 November 2013, 11:25:51
Taste you say...

I'm sure it tastes like chicken ::)
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Post by: Field Marshal Dr. Opti on 30 November 2013, 14:09:09
I'm gonna get howled at now, but I think that VXR8 looks like a very expensive Chav Chariot!!  :-X  ;D

I agree, Sir Tig........ and way overpriced for a Vauxhall.

Sub £25,000 it makes sense.

Anything above that and it does not.

For that sort of money I'd rather buy a good second hand Bentley Continental or Aston Martin.  :y

I guess there's no accounting for taste though.....  :-\ :-\ :-\  ;D ;D ;D


Ah...... I see........Your almost limitless wealth is starting to filter through, Sir Tig.  :)
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Post by: omega3000 on 30 November 2013, 16:07:09
Agreed, the wheels could be alot better, but that is probably the best colour for that car 8)

Only ever seen them in black  ??? Seen red or white GSI's  :-\

That's not the LC you're talking about is it? All Lotus Carltons were Imperial Green  ;)

Ah my eyes  ::) ;)