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Title: Four-door coupe ?
Post by: Johnny English on 27 December 2013, 15:50:07
Peugeot 408 GT , I'm feeling a bit puzzled as the main speciality of all the coupes is the two-doors form... GT got four doors, is it still coupe though... ???

http://www.carsuk.net/peugeot-408-gt-coupe-planned-2016/ (http://www.carsuk.net/peugeot-408-gt-coupe-planned-2016/)
Title: Re: Four-door coupe ?
Post by: Andy B on 27 December 2013, 16:04:31
Peugeot 408 GT , I'm feeling a bit puzzled as the main speciality of all the coupes is the two-doors form... GT got four doors, is it still coupe though... ???

http://www.carsuk.net/peugeot-408-gt-coupe-planned-2016/ (http://www.carsuk.net/peugeot-408-gt-coupe-planned-2016/)

You're right of course .... a coupé is a two door car, but obviously those that name cars don't know that. One of the more notable 'coupés' of the past was the Rover P5 Coupé  ..... which was also a 4 door  ;)

http://www.motorbase.com/uploads/2007/05/24/fs_countryside1aart.jpg
Title: Re: Four-door coupe ?
Post by: Johnny English on 27 December 2013, 16:59:51
Peugeot 408 GT , I'm feeling a bit puzzled as the main speciality of all the coupes is the two-doors form... GT got four doors, is it still coupe though... ???

http://www.carsuk.net/peugeot-408-gt-coupe-planned-2016/ (http://www.carsuk.net/peugeot-408-gt-coupe-planned-2016/)

You're right of course .... a coupé is a two door car, but obviously those that name cars don't know that. One of the more notable 'coupés' of the past was the Rover P5 Coupé  ..... which was also a 4 door  ;)

http://www.motorbase.com/uploads/2007/05/24/fs_countryside1aart.jpg

Fantastic.Inimitable British design. :y
Title: Re: Four-door coupe ?
Post by: Andy B on 27 December 2013, 17:05:56
Peugeot 408 GT , I'm feeling a bit puzzled as the main speciality of all the coupes is the two-doors form... GT got four doors, is it still coupe though... ???

http://www.carsuk.net/peugeot-408-gt-coupe-planned-2016/ (http://www.carsuk.net/peugeot-408-gt-coupe-planned-2016/)

You're right of course .... a coupé is a two door car, but obviously those that name cars don't know that. One of the more notable 'coupés' of the past was the Rover P5 Coupé  ..... which was also a 4 door  ;)

http://www.motorbase.com/uploads/2007/05/24/fs_countryside1aart.jpg

Fantastic. Inimitable British design. :y

Excellent word!  :y
Title: Re: Four-door coupe ?
Post by: omega3000 on 27 December 2013, 17:14:27
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Rover P5 Coupé

Now thats a fine looking Coupe and built like a tank  :y
Title: Re: Four-door coupe ?
Post by: Andy B on 27 December 2013, 17:19:31
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Rover P5 Coupé

Now thats a fine looking Coupe and built like a tank  :y

but they rot in places that most cars don't have places  ;)  ;)  ;)
Title: Re: Four-door coupe ?
Post by: omega3000 on 27 December 2013, 17:41:02
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Rover P5 Coupé

Now thats a fine looking Coupe and built like a tank  :y

but they rot in places that most cars don't have places  ;)  ;)  ;)

There's one on the bay , been restored with all the rot chopped out  :) Like it better than P6 ..sorry symes  :-X
Title: Re: Four-door coupe ?
Post by: Andy B on 27 December 2013, 18:04:58
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Rover P5 Coupé

Now thats a fine looking Coupe and built like a tank  :y

but they rot in places that most cars don't have places  ;)  ;)  ;)

There's one on the bay , been restored with all the rot chopped out  :) Like it better than P6 ..sorry symes  :-X

This one? (http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/1969-ROVER-P5b-Coupe-3-5-Litre-V8-Automatic-/221339914415?pt=Automobiles_UK&hash=item3388e310af) Not cheap, but it seems to be the going price for a good one. And this one is even a nice colour inside, better than the ubiquitous tan that seems to be in many. Strange seeing a Coupe without the grey roof .... though it's probably due to the Webasto sun roof.
Did you know that the coachline on roof of the coupe was done by hand at the factory?  :o
Title: Re: Four-door coupe ?
Post by: omega3000 on 27 December 2013, 22:47:57
No this one (http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Rover-P5B-1968-3-5-Litre-V8-/111244510620?pt=Automobiles_UK&hash=item19e6b0859c)

 :y
Title: Re: Four-door coupe ?
Post by: Andy B on 28 December 2013, 01:06:40
No this one (http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Rover-P5B-1968-3-5-Litre-V8-/111244510620?pt=Automobiles_UK&hash=item19e6b0859c)

 :y

Although it's a P5, it's 'only' a saloon ...... not a coupé  ;)  ;)  They're both easily identified from each other, the saloon has a triangular-ish quarter light while the coupe has a parallelogram quarter light  ;) ;) ;) That makes mine top trump yours!  ;D ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Four-door coupe ?
Post by: Johnny English on 28 December 2013, 07:01:52
No this one (http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Rover-P5B-1968-3-5-Litre-V8-/111244510620?pt=Automobiles_UK&hash=item19e6b0859c)

 :y

Although it's a P5, it's 'only' a saloon ...... not a coupé  ;)  ;)  They're both easily identified from each other, the saloon has a triangular-ish quarter light while the coupe has a parallelogram quarter light  ;) ;) ;) That makes mine top trump yours!  ;D ;D ;D ;D

So it's a coupé because she has a parallelogram quarter light... hm...is it new generation of car identifying?  ;D
Title: Re: Four-door coupe ?
Post by: Andy B on 28 December 2013, 09:00:50
No this one (http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Rover-P5B-1968-3-5-Litre-V8-/111244510620?pt=Automobiles_UK&hash=item19e6b0859c)

 :y

Although it's a P5, it's 'only' a saloon ...... not a coupé  ;)  ;)  They're both easily identified from each other, the saloon has a triangular-ish quarter light while the coupe has a parallelogram quarter light  ;) ;) ;) That makes mine top trump yours!  ;D ;D ;D ;D

So it's a coupé because she has a parallelogram quarter light... hm...is it new generation of car identifying?  ;D

No  ;), the roof line at the back is lower on the coupe than the saloon, but unless the two cars are next to one another, the difference isn't that obvious. The quarter light is the most easily identified difference. :y  :y

saloon
(http://i.ebayimg.com/t/Rover-P5-3500-V8-/00/s/OTYwWDEyODA=/z/GW8AAMXQWzNSj2dh/$_57.JPG)

Coupe
(http://www.aceclassiccars.com/ebay/rover42/image10.JPG)
Title: Re: Four-door coupe ?
Post by: Keith ABS on 28 December 2013, 09:34:22
  Some of them were two tone paited from the factory, an option, back then, so not a new idea Mr Citreon DS etc. My mate used to banger race them all the time as the front was so hard. Could be a bit tender on the rear. he finesed second in the world banger final DD at Wimbeldon back in 1983
Keith B
Title: Re: Four-door coupe ?
Post by: Andy B on 28 December 2013, 09:41:50
.... My mate used to banger race them all the time  ....

 :'(  :'(  :'(  :'(
Title: Re: Four-door coupe ?
Post by: cam2502 on 28 December 2013, 11:49:01
That fits nicely into Peugeots fugly family!
Title: Re: Four-door coupe ?
Post by: martin42 on 28 December 2013, 16:38:02
Mazda,bentley,audi mercedes do 4 door coupes and thats just a few of them  :y
Title: Re: Four-door coupe ?
Post by: Rods2 on 28 December 2013, 19:18:24
Coupe refers to the roofline, with iirc a fixed head coupe having a fixed metal roof and a drophead coupe having a cloth or removable roof.

Although most are two door, then can have four.
Title: Re: Four-door coupe ?
Post by: Andy B on 28 December 2013, 19:22:22
Coupe refers to the roofline, with iirc a fixed head coupe having a fixed metal roof and a drophead coupe having a cloth or removable roof.

Although most are two door, then can have four.

But originally a coupé is a two door ......  ;) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coup%C3%A9
Title: Re: Four-door coupe ?
Post by: Johnny English on 29 December 2013, 07:07:31
Coupe refers to the roofline, with iirc a fixed head coupe having a fixed metal roof and a drophead coupe having a cloth or removable roof.

Although most are two door, then can have four.

But originally a coupé is a two door ......  ;) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coup%C3%A9

Yep. That's why I consider quite interesting the evolution of car designing as up to the not too far past there weren't too many categories, manufacturers creating new ones day by day though. Nowdays if I saw a car I could not be sure of it was an off-road or a cross-over as at first glimpse the one looks like the other. As well as a four-door coupe and a saloon and it could be continued.
Title: Re: Four-door coupe ?
Post by: Andy B on 29 December 2013, 09:24:37
Coupe refers to the roofline, with iirc a fixed head coupe having a fixed metal roof and a drophead coupe having a cloth or removable roof.

Although most are two door, then can have four.

But originally a coupé is a two door ......  ;) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coup%C3%A9

Yep. That's why I consider quite interesting the evolution of car designing as up to the not too far past there weren't too many categories, manufacturers creating new ones day by day though. Nowdays if I saw a car I could not be sure of it was an off-road or a cross-over as at first glimpse the one looks like the other. As well as a four-door coupe and a saloon and it could be continued.

A two door car is considered to be nicer looking than a four door, hence manufacturers hiding rear door handles in the rear C pillar in an effort to hide the rear doors.  ;)
Title: Re: Four-door coupe ?
Post by: omega3000 on 29 December 2013, 11:45:32
Coupe refers to the roofline, with iirc a fixed head coupe having a fixed metal roof and a drophead coupe having a cloth or removable roof.

Although most are two door, then can have four.

But originally a coupé is a two door ......  ;) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coup%C3%A9

Yep. That's why I consider quite interesting the evolution of car designing as up to the not too far past there weren't too many categories, manufacturers creating new ones day by day though. Nowdays if I saw a car I could not be sure of it was an off-road or a cross-over as at first glimpse the one looks like the other. As well as a four-door coupe and a saloon and it could be continued.

A two door car is considered to be nicer looking than a four door, hence manufacturers hiding rear door handles in the rear C pillar in an effort to hide the rear doors.  ;)

 :y

.... My mate used to banger race them all the time  ....

 :'(  :'(  :'(  :'(

Yes tough old cars unless they were stoved in hard at the front  :D