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Title: Advice ,new omega . .how to
Post by: Big_Al on 25 January 2014, 21:24:37
how to get it home ?  :-\ :-\

hi all,
        advice needed on a possible purchase .    I am looking at the possibility of buying 2001 3.2 MV6.

Car is a private sale but is on sorn .  Am just waiting for a reply  if it has any MOT.  It is 40 miles away  from here .

Question is if I buy it , How best & most economically can I get it home legally?  or is a transporter the only way.

Insurance is not a problem ,can start a new policy or switch from my 2.6 MV6

any advice welcome     TIA    Al  :y :y

Title: Re: Advice ,new omega . .how to
Post by: kevinp58 on 25 January 2014, 21:27:35
If you book it in for a M.O.T and drive it back and straight to the station I think you should be ok.  :-\
Title: Re: Advice ,new omega . .how to
Post by: Big_Al on 25 January 2014, 21:38:07
If you book it in for a M.O.T and drive it back and straight to the station I think you should be ok.  :-\

Sounds like a plan  :y :y    and then tax it when it passes ?  but what if it don't ? :-\ :-\

No probs with booking it in for a test here in Southend .

Don't know much about this car as yet  . . . only seen pictures  . . looks quite nice  .  .and it is a bargain price .

Nice little project I thought

Title: Re: Advice ,new omega . .how to
Post by: kevinp58 on 25 January 2014, 21:40:07
If you book it in for a M.O.T and drive it back and straight to the station I think you should be ok.  :-\

Sounds like a plan  :y :y    and then tax it when it passes ?  but what if it don't ? :-\ :-\

No probs with booking it in for a test here in Southend .

Don't know much about this car as yet  . . . only seen pictures  . . looks quite nice  .  .and it is a bargain price .

Nice little project I thought







Then you are allowed to take it home and work on it or to a place it can be repaired for its M.O.T.  :y :y
Title: Re: Advice ,new omega . .how to
Post by: Big_Al on 25 January 2014, 21:46:37
no reply from private seller as yet  . . .but it is saturday night  :D :D :D :D

fingers crossed  . . .think i'll go for this  8) 8). .  well at least go and view it  ::) ::)

I  will check with the MOT man to see if he thinks it's legal to drive it back straight to his garage  for a test

 provided it is insured by me  :-\ :-\
Title: Re: Advice ,new omega . .how to
Post by: kevinp58 on 25 January 2014, 21:49:23
Yes you must have insurance.  :y But pretty sure you should be ok with the drive straight to the station.  :y
Title: Re: Advice ,new omega . .how to
Post by: Big_Al on 25 January 2014, 21:52:46
Yes you must have insurance.  :y But pretty sure you should be ok with the drive straight to the station. :y

thanks for your replies Kevin . . .   lets see if we get any more opinions  :y :y


oops !   probably should have put this in General Car Chat :-[ :-[
Title: Re: Advice ,new omega . .how to
Post by: zirk on 25 January 2014, 22:26:57
If its got Mot then I would risk it for no Tax,  if stoped there unlikely to take the car off you if you have just bought it, worst case if you get reported for no Tax, you will be responsible for the back tax since you owned the car, which in your case is about 40 mins.

If no Mot I would book it in twice in to seperate Garages, say one about 6 miles from the Seller and the other about an hour later up to 6 miles from you, that way your covered.

The Mot rule is its suposed to be local which 40 miles, isn't.
Title: Re: Advice ,new omega . .how to
Post by: kevinp58 on 25 January 2014, 22:30:05
If its got Mot then I would risk it for no Tax,  if stoped there unlikely to take the car off you if you have just bought it, worst case if you get reported for no Tax, you will be responsible for the back tax since you owned the car, which in your case about 40 mins.

If no Mot I would book it in twice in to seperate Garages, say one about 6 miles from the Seller and the other about an hour later up to 6 miles from you, that way your covered.

The Mot rule is its sopposed to be local which 40 miles, isn't.






But is local to Al  :y
Title: Re: Advice ,new omega . .how to
Post by: zirk on 25 January 2014, 22:38:33
If its got Mot then I would risk it for no Tax,  if stoped there unlikely to take the car off you if you have just bought it, worst case if you get reported for no Tax, you will be responsible for the back tax since you owned the car, which in your case about 40 mins.

If no Mot I would book it in twice in to seperate Garages, say one about 6 miles from the Seller and the other about an hour later up to 6 miles from you, that way your covered.

The Mot rule is its sopposed to be local which 40 miles, isn't.






But is local to Al  :y
Yea, buts its not local to the seller, the Police and DVLA views are, has to be a Local Mot Station. Dont think you get away with driving 30 mile to Al's Local. Anyway Ive said what I would do.  :y
Title: Re: Advice ,new omega . .how to
Post by: hotel21 on 25 January 2014, 22:44:44
To paraphrase my first report checking sergeant as a trafPol,  think upon the circumstances of your purchase as the father of your recently deceased child having been struck by said new purchase.

Would you be happy with attempts to circumvent legality??

Hire a trailer and get a suitable tow vehicle.

If you drive it with the 'booked mot at home' excuse, how many test stations did you pass to get home?  How many would have deemed the car unroadworthy?

How many insurance company's would cleanse their hands of the matter quicker than a greasy whore on quadruple overtime on a busy Saturday night when it goes wrong??

Your call, but not on my conscience, thanks....
Title: Re: Advice ,new omega . .how to
Post by: biggriffin on 25 January 2014, 23:00:02
Take number plates of current omega, and put on the buyer  :y.  Not failed me yet,
anpr read the plates, no ping no problem. :y

another just legal tip from me :y
Title: Re: Advice ,new omega . .how to
Post by: Big_Al on 25 January 2014, 23:03:25
To paraphrase my first report checking sergeant as a trafPol,  think upon the circumstances of your purchase as the father of your recently deceased child having been struck by said new purchase.

Would you be happy with attempts to circumvent legality??

Hire a trailer and get a suitable tow vehicle.

If you drive it with the 'booked mot at home' excuse, how many test stations did you pass to get home?  How many would have deemed the car unroadworthy?

How many insurance company's would cleanse their hands of the matter quicker than a greasy whore on quadruple overtime on a busy Saturday night when it goes wrong??

Your call, but not on my conscience, thanks....

Only way really . . .    i'll go & have a look  . . then weigh up wether trailering it back is cost effective  :-\ :-\

thanks H21 :y
Title: Re: Advice ,new omega . .how to
Post by: Big_Al on 25 January 2014, 23:04:21
Take number plates of current omega, and put on the buyer  :y.  Not failed me yet,
anpr read the plates, no ping no problem. :y

another just legal tip from me :y

you sure BG  :o :o :o :o :o    ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Advice ,new omega . .how to
Post by: I_want_an_Omega on 25 January 2014, 23:05:04
Take number plates of current omega, and put on the buyer  :y.  Not failed me yet,
anpr read the plates, no ping no problem. :y

another just legal tip from me :y

Er, isn't than an ILLEGAL  tip then?
Title: Re: Advice ,new omega . .how to
Post by: Kevin Wood on 25 January 2014, 23:21:30
Take number plates of current omega, and put on the buyer  :y.  Not failed me yet,
anpr read the plates, no ping no problem. :y

another just legal tip from me :y

Er, isn't than an ILLEGAL  tip then?

Not half. :o Can't believe I just read that. Any idea how serious the gloving would be if you did get pulled over and the VIN checked? Not to mention the worst that could happen as H21 eludes. Just get someone to transport it or MOT it locally to the seller and get them to fix any issues before bringing it home.
Title: Re: Advice ,new omega . .how to
Post by: Andy B on 25 January 2014, 23:26:49
Take number plates of current omega, and put on the buyer  :y.  Not failed me yet,
anpr read the plates, no ping no problem. :y

another just legal tip from me :y

That little bit of advice is unbelievable ...... tongue in cheek or not. Not having the required paper work work is one thing, but fraudulently suggesting you do have is er ......... fraud. And I'm sure the fine/points you'd get for fraud would top trump those you'd get for not having the correct paper work in the first place.
Title: Re: Advice ,new omega . .how to
Post by: kevinp58 on 25 January 2014, 23:27:26
another way do you know anybody that has trade plates,  ;)
Title: Re: Advice ,new omega . .how to
Post by: hotel21 on 25 January 2014, 23:29:06
Take number plates of current omega, and put on the buyer  :y.  Not failed me yet,
anpr read the plates, no ping no problem. :y

another just legal tip from me :y

Are you for real?

Fraud as well as the assorted RTA offences?

Once upon a time I used to look forward the wee cases like that that dropped into my lap. Without the tears and grief of death...... ::)
Title: Re: Advice ,new omega . .how to
Post by: Andy B on 25 January 2014, 23:30:44
another way do you know anybody that has trade plates,  ;)


or put his hand in his pocket for a recovery firm to recover  it for him  ;) Far cheaper - in the longrun & legal...er to pay some one  :y
Title: Re: Advice ,new omega . .how to
Post by: hotel21 on 25 January 2014, 23:31:44
As for trade plates. They cover VEL and only that. Not insurance. Not MOT. Not road worthiness. Nowt other than road tax.

Hire a trailer.

Or a recovery company.

Title: Re: Advice ,new omega . .how to
Post by: Andy B on 25 January 2014, 23:34:18
Take number plates of current omega, and put on the buyer  :y.  Not failed me yet,
anpr read the plates, no ping no problem. :y

another just legal tip from me :y

Are you for real?

Fraud as well as the assorted RTA offences?

Once upon a time I used to look forward the wee cases like that that dropped into my lap. Without the tears and grief of death...... ::)

Actually he's not on his own. My Dad recently had a car for sale .... spares or repair. A prospective buyer from miles away down 'darn sarf' suggested exactly the same thing to get the afore mentioned car back home ...... my dad sold it to some one else.  :-X
Title: Re: Advice ,new omega . .how to
Post by: 05omegav6 on 25 January 2014, 23:36:19
Might actually have an MoT... so could be a moot point :-\
Title: Re: Advice ,new omega . .how to
Post by: hotel21 on 25 January 2014, 23:41:02
Might actually have an MoT... so could be a moot point :-\

Moot in what way?  It's got a ticket?

Still needs shifted though.....
Title: Re: Advice ,new omega . .how to
Post by: 05omegav6 on 25 January 2014, 23:47:23
Al goes to see the car, it transpires it has an MoT insurance is a phonecall away, and taxing can be done at local post office where car is currently, everyone happy :y

The seller might even tax it at cost, assuming it's insured currently...

No MoT then looking at a trailer or similar as suggested :y Unless seller agrees to put it through MoT as a sale condition... how the car gets home then depends on result of said test :y
Title: Re: Advice ,new omega . .how to
Post by: Big_Al on 25 January 2014, 23:47:40
Might actually have an MoT... so could be a moot point :-\

Still no response from seller  . . . so don't know about MOT   . . .but nothing mentioned in ad

Texted earlier tonight   & no response . . . . but   will ring number tomorrow .

I had the same problem a couple of years back when I needed to get a 2.5 from Northants to Southend  . . .Cost of

transporting puts the car in the "not such a good deal " bracket . :'( :'(

But whatever happens  . .won't be "swapping" plates  " :P :P

Title: Re: Advice ,new omega . .how to
Post by: zirk on 26 January 2014, 00:09:44
another way do you know anybody that has trade plates,  ;)
Trade Plates only cover Road Tax Licence (even then only under certain circumstances), if booked in for an Mot you cannot use Trade Plates for the purpose of No Tax to and from an Mot Station. you have to abide by the normal Rules and drive the Vehicle on its own plates.

As said before, if its a no Tax issue, and for 40 miles I would probably take the chance, as long as as the Vehicle is going to to be Taxed shortly afterwards for that period, probably wont hear any more about by post. Ive had to do it a few times as a Trader where Ive picked up a Vehicle that was on Disability Tax and can only be re taxed by Post or a DVLA Centre visit.

As for no Mot, yea, its a risky one, as Hotel21 says, potential uninsured Vehicle, if local, and Local for me would be 6 miles max, possibly up to to 10 miles if you live in the sticks, even then I would be paranoid about making sure everything is as legit as possible, ie carrying my Traders Policy, having roof of purchase, signed and time and date stamped and making sure the index plate was booked in for an Mot, even then I would only do this if I was sure the Vehicle was it in fit condition to drive and worthy of an Mot Test.

Having said all that, the Law states you can can legally drive an Untaxed Vehicle without an Mot, to and from a Local MOT Station as long as there is valid Insurance in place. There are no official distance or mileage guidelines as to what is local, but DLVA guidelines recommend it must be a direct route or maybe via a Petrol Station and the Vehicle cannot be on the road for more than 1 Hour each way in Total.

As for Al, I'm sure he already knows that Southend in Essex is a well known ANPR Monitored Ready Town, so he's knowledge will be his guide.  :y
 
Title: Re: Advice ,new omega . .how to
Post by: zirk on 26 January 2014, 00:28:41
? Double posted I think, so deleted.  :-\
Title: Re: Advice ,new omega . .how to
Post by: biggriffin on 26 January 2014, 07:59:33
Take number plates of current omega, and put on the buyer  :y.  Not failed me yet,
anpr read the plates, no ping no problem. :y

another just legal tip from me :y

blimey, anybody would have thought i had suggested using pattern cam cover gaskets and the tunnster,is on line :)
Title: Re: Advice ,new omega . .how to
Post by: Taxi_Driver on 26 January 2014, 08:44:26
Do you know a local backstreet garage with a breakdown truck??

My local one charges £2/mile.....so you'd be looking at £80 at those prices....
Title: Re: Advice ,new omega . .how to
Post by: plym ian on 26 January 2014, 08:48:00
Join RAC for a month tell them cam belts snapped and get them to tow it home for you :y

Title: Re: Advice ,new omega . .how to
Post by: swordfish on 26 January 2014, 08:59:34
Join RAC for a month tell them cam belts snapped and get them to tow it home for you :y
   they wont move a car thats got no mot or tax , the only way is to hire a trailer and recover with a big enough car or pay a transport company     try this                http://www.shiply.com/courier-auction/?gclid=CMTaibTXlbUCFcjKtAodyEgATg
Title: Re: Advice ,new omega . .how to
Post by: plym ian on 26 January 2014, 09:39:03
Join RAC for a month tell them cam belts snapped and get them to tow it home for you :y
   they wont move a car thats got no mot or tax , the only way is to hire a trailer and recover with a big enough car or pay a transport company     try this                http://www.shiply.com/courier-auction/?gclid=CMTaibTXlbUCFcjKtAodyEgATg
Didn't know that sorry :(
Title: Re: Advice ,new omega . .how to
Post by: Keith ABS on 26 January 2014, 11:03:44
  One or two people on ABS use Shiply. they find them very good
keith B
Title: Re: Advice ,new omega . .how to
Post by: Kate on 26 January 2014, 11:36:51
  One or two people on ABS use Shiply. they find them very good
keith B

Yes I've used Shiply lots of times. You get lots of quotes for the job and pick the best based on price and transport provider feedback.

Fully legal! :y

Good luck with it. :-*
Title: Re: Advice ,new omega . .how to
Post by: dbug on 26 January 2014, 17:35:17
Might actually have an MoT... so could be a moot point :-\

Still no response from seller  . . . so don't know about MOT   . . .but nothing mentioned in ad

Texted earlier tonight   & no response . . . . but   will ring number tomorrow .

I had the same problem a couple of years back when I needed to get a 2.5 from Northants to Southend  . . .Cost of

transporting puts the car in the "not such a good deal " bracket . :'( :'(

But whatever happens  . .won't be "swapping" plates  " :P :P

Still got the two "planks" if you need them Al ;D ;D ;)
Title: Re: Advice ,new omega . .how to
Post by: Bigron on 26 January 2014, 18:07:48
Do you have AA/RAC/Green Flag membership? Register the car with them as change of vehicle and see if they will recover it home for you. You may need to incorporate a "fault" that they would be unable to repair at the roadside......

Ron.
Title: Re: Advice ,new omega . .how to
Post by: TheBoy on 26 January 2014, 18:13:58
Do you have AA/RAC/Green Flag membership? Register the car with them as change of vehicle and see if they will recover it home for you. You may need to incorporate a "fault" that they would be unable to repair at the roadside......

Ron.
Often not covered, as not road legal. Its an easy check for them now
Title: Re: Advice ,new omega . .how to
Post by: Webby the Bear on 26 January 2014, 18:22:44
Take number plates of current omega, and put on the buyer  :y.  Not failed me yet,
anpr read the plates, no ping no problem. :y

another just legal tip from me :y

You're not related to a lad who goes to my College are you, BG? When quizzed on ''how will the de-catting straight through exhaust pipe affect it's MOT''? His reply was ''not a problem...I always get a dodgy MOT''.

Now, I know for a fact that if I did this I'd be caught immediately. Murphy's Law. Hence why I always do things by the book.