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Omega Help Area => Omega General Help => Topic started by: rac060804 on 26 January 2014, 18:01:31
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Hi all
Recently purchased a 2.2DTI with starting issues, anyway last night she stopped turning over and started clicking at me ;-) The battery needed charging which I did last night and on re fitting it this morning the clicking continues and she wont fire over.......
Is this the sign of a new starter motor?
Cheers
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Give starter a belt with a mallet.
Pop in gear (ign off) and push the car a few inches.
Let us know which one cures it
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Actually, first, turn headlights on, and try to start. Do headlights dim?
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Ive tried rocking her in first and second gear, no joy...........
Silly question, where is the start located??? ive not been under her, the rain has been something else
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Battery might be toast, if it's been charged over night and still not turning over :-\
Have you tried jump starting it from another car?
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Ive just been out to her, lights on and tried to fire her up..........clicking still there and the lights dim very very slightly.......hardly not at all
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Time to belt with a mallet then. Whilst there, ensure the connects and engine ground straps are in tact
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Silly question...........where is it? Can it be hit from above or is it a jack up job?
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Silly question...........where is it? Can it be hit from above or is it a jack up job?
I'll leave that for a 2.2DTi owner, as I've never owned one, and starters on Omegas are normally uber reliable, so never had cause to fumble around on other members' cars looking for starters...
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Same side as v6 :y
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And where would that be lol :y
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Driver side
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Can it be reached from above or does it need jacking up?
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No idea as the last 2.2 i did a starter on was a vectra b,and that was from underneath.
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If drivers side, can't see it being from above, as somebody has put a frakkin great turbo in the way ;D
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Starter solenoid dodgy ;)
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Give starter a belt with a mallet.
Pop in gear (ign off) and push the car a few inches.
Let us know which one cures it
Had a Cav SRi Auto years ago, that I purchased as my old Company Car and handed it over to Swimbo complete with a Club Hammer and instructions on what to do if and when the 'No Start Clicky Noise' happens.
She was parked outside Her Mums one day, and on leaving it wouldn't start. There was a BT Van parked in front of Her with a couple of Engineers drinking Tea and looking at her.
Armed with the Hammer, She lifting the Bonnet and proceeded to wack the f**k out of the Engine, the 2 BT Engineers just pissed themselves laughing and one of them said 'problem with the Car, Love', 'Nope' She replied and with that closed the Bonnet, jumped in, started it and drove off.
As she drove off, she gave them a little wave and she said the look on their faces was priceless. ;D
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Hi all
Got home tonight, grabbed a mallet and went out to the car.............before I wacked it (starter lol) I tried to fire her up again, but this time there was nothing !!! Not a click, not nothing.......
The instrument panel all lite up as normal, but that was all ;-( turn the key and nowt
Would fault start cause this? the no noise or anything?
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Are you sure your battery's not goosed? :-\
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Ive been out tonight to see if she will fire and the clicking has returned.........think I will try jumping her with my Frontera this weekend.
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Sounds like battery is problem,swap it with another 1 and try that.
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Hi all
Ok, so Ive tried to jump her off my Frontera, nothing, no clicking from the starter.........I can only hear a relay clicking.
ive been underneath her and tapped the starter, still nothing so I guess the next thing is to see if there is power going to the start, but is there an easy way to test it as Ive seen the heat shield over the turbo, then the bloody starter has a heat shield that looks like its secured to the engine under the turbo, making it not accessible.
Im sure there has got to be an easier way, but I hope you guys may know..
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Hi all
Ok, so Ive tried to jump her off my Frontera, nothing, no clicking from the starter.........I can only hear a relay clicking.
ive been underneath her and tapped the starter, still nothing so I guess the next thing is to see if there is power going to the start, but is there an easy way to test it as Ive seen the heat shield over the turbo, then the bloody starter has a heat shield that looks like its secured to the engine under the turbo, making it not accessible.
Im sure there has got to be an easier way, but I hope you guys may know..
You can only get to the starter from under the car as the heat shield is in the way I just changed my starter not long ago on my 2.2 dti there quite easy to do belongs the heat shield bolts come of nicely mine were rusted and just turned but once I sorted that was easy but most of it had to be dine from under car as the turbo is in the way. Im not sure if a muti meter would tell you if its getting power.
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Hi all
Ok, so Ive tried to jump her off my Frontera, nothing, no clicking from the starter.........I can only hear a relay clicking.
ive been underneath her and tapped the starter, still nothing so I guess the next thing is to see if there is power going to the start, but is there an easy way to test it as Ive seen the heat shield over the turbo, then the bloody starter has a heat shield that looks like its secured to the engine under the turbo, making it not accessible.
Im sure there has got to be an easier way, but I hope you guys may know..
You can only get to the starter from under the car as the heat shield is in the way I just changed my starter not long ago on my 2.2 dti there quite easy to do belongs the heat shield bolts come of nicely mine were rusted and just turned but once I sorted that was easy but most of it had to be dine from under car as the turbo is in the way. Im not sure if a muti meter would tell you if its getting power.
But sounds like starter I think I got mine from central auto suppliers from 86 pound but then there was a 30 pound sir charge
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Put a decent battery on it
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Morning all
Finally got to the leads on the starter.................there is constant power going to her on the thicker lead, then on the small lead on the starter, there is power going to it when the ignition is turned.........
Now this is where my knowledge isn't too good. Is this normal? Should I be getting power as described above?
Sorry for being thick
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Just put the brand new battery off my 2.2dti frontera onto the omega and Im getting the same condition............
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Morning all
Finally got to the leads on the starter.................there is constant power going to her on the thicker lead, then on the small lead on the starter, there is power going to it when the ignition is turned.........
Now this is where my knowledge isn't too good. Is this normal? Should I be getting power as described above?
Sorry for being thick
What you describe is normal... the solenoid is obviously goosed :y
With the car in NEUTRAL, key in position 2, short the two terminals on the motor... it should then start. :y Ideally, you don't want to be under it at the time, unless it's on ramps rather than axle stands...
Whether that frees it off or not depends on how dead the solenoid is, but the only way I could start my old auto Mk2 Granada was to do this everytime the solenoid froze...
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Hi Guys
Just wanted to pass by and say Thank you for the help/advise to all, I've sorted her.............turned out to be the starter motor u/s. new one fitted and she now turns over............
Time to get the ECU read for the codes.
Cheers once again
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Morning all
Finally got to the leads on the starter.................there is constant power going to her on the thicker lead, then on the small lead on the starter, there is power going to it when the ignition is turned.........
Now this is where my knowledge isn't too good. Is this normal? Should I be getting power as described above?
Sorry for being thick
What you describe is normal... the solenoid is obviously goosed :y
With the car in NEUTRAL, key in position 2, short the two terminals on the motor... it should then start. :y Ideally, you don't want to be under it at the time, unless it's on ramps rather than axle stands...
Whether that frees it off or not depends on how dead the solenoid is, but the only way I could start my old auto Mk2 Granada was to do this everytime the solenoid froze...
:y :y