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Chat Area => General Discussion Area => Topic started by: Stemo on 29 April 2014, 13:24:41
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....are starting to get on my wick. Another idiot today with his racist Facebook posts. I was all for them not so long ago, but I'm starting to believe that they are a bunch of cranks. Farage used to come across as 'one of the lads' but he increasingly looks like a bumbling alcoholic.
They may win this round of European elections but, I reckon, they're starting to fall apart. Shame, really.
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I agree that some of their candidates leave a bit to be desired.
My brother is an activist for UKIP and he thought Geof Bloom was a great candidate! I thought Farage did the right thing getting rid of him.
What they are short of is talented bods singing from Farages hymn sheet. I bet even Farage doen't know the answer.
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The more the Daily Fail and others slang them off, the more popular they become. :y
Let's be honest they only say what the rest of us think and upset the PC brigade.
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The more the Daily Fail and others slang them off, the more popular they become. :y
Let's be honest they only say what the rest of us think and upset the PC brigade.
That may be Cleggy, but they won't get by on votes from like-minded people alone, they have to at least look as though they're playing the game. If not, we might as well vote BNP.
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The more the Daily Fail and others slang them off, the more popular they become. :y
Let's be honest they only say what the rest of us think and upset the PC brigade.
That may be Cleggy, but they won't get by on votes from like-minded people alone, they have to at least look as though they're playing the game. If not, we might as well vote BNP.
Whats the alternative , The Green Party ::) ;D
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I agree, their candidate selection leaves a lot to be desired and leaves them open to the bad press they are getting. They really do need to get an handle on this, their policies are sound on Europe and immigration, it's what the people whant.
The Lib Dems are an excuse for kiddie fiddlers and those of dubious sexual orientation, Labour's top dogs supported The Paedophile Information Exchange, as for the Conservative they just abuse power in every way imaginable. Funny how UKip are getting all the negative press.
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The tory lab lib have missed the point , people are fed up with none of them listening .. food banks have tripled but they refuse to acknowledge there is a problem >:( Personal debt is increasing , folks cant afford to pay their bills but still no one listens . Bankers are still getting big bonuses and the rich still avoiding paying taxes ... wonder why folk are looking for change ::)
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down boy :( :(
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In Italy, at the last election, a guy called Beppe Grillo got the most votes. He is/was a comedian who stood as a protest. No one ever thought he was capable of forming a government, but voted for him anyway because they had had enough of the mainstream politicians. I haven't heard of him since but he proved that, if you piss the electorate off enough, they will vote for anyone but you.
That was a general election, so UKIP should easily win a poxy European one.
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The more the Daily Fail and others slang them off, the more popular they become. :y
Let's be honest they only say what the rest of us think and upset the PC brigade.
That may be Cleggy, but they won't get by on votes from like-minded people alone, they have to at least look as though they're playing the game. If not, we might as well vote BNP.
Whats the alternative , The Green Party ::) ;D
Two words for that idea Mr Emd...
First word:
GET
:-X
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I'd probably vote for them (if I was registered) just to make the big two wake up a bit.
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The more the Daily Fail and others slang them off, the more popular they become. :y
Let's be honest they only say what the rest of us think and upset the PC brigade.
That may be Cleggy, but they won't get by on votes from like-minded people alone, they have to at least look as though they're playing the game. If not, we might as well vote BNP.
Whats the alternative , The Green Party ::) ;D
Two words for that idea Mr Emd...
First word:
GET
:-X
GET.......a life? No, that's three words.
GET........rid of your omega?
GET.........outta here?
Ah, I've got it. GET f&@£:d. That's not very nice, Al.
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I'd rather get oppsed than vote Green...
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I'd rather get oppsed than vote Green...
Yes. I read your Brighton report. How's the campaign going?
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I think I will start by sub contracting the waste collections... If the council ones weren't always on strike, they might be more productive, and if they hate their jobs so much then I am sure that they'll appreciate unemployment...
Not sure yet on the main campaign focus though :-\
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I think I will start by sub contracting the waste collections... If the council ones weren't always on strike, they might be more productive, and if they hate their jobs so much then I am sure that they'll appreciate unemployment...
Not sure yet on the main campaign focus though :-\
Doesn't matter. UKIP just say 'Out of Europe' and they'll win. Bins should do it for you. The main thing is not to mention what you're gonna do, just say how crap the people in power are now.
Can't fail :y
Can I be deputy leader?
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If you must ::)
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If you must ::)
;D
Well......I have just written your manifesto. ;D
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Well there is that I suppose ::)
Was thinking that I might outlaw overnight on street parking of anything larger than a family car. Some roads look like caravan scrap yards. If the occupants feel hard done by, tough. They don't pay coucil tax, so why should the council reflect their interests. Could send the traffic wardens out to collect pitch fees at £30 per camper, per night.
And going back to bins... charge people a quid per kilo for general waste, but pay them 1p per kilo for recycling. Then sell the recycling material at 5p per kilo to the chinese.
If I keep saving Sodom and Gomorrahs council that much cash, we'll have West Pier rebuilt by August... another populist policy 8)
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Some of their candidates are not ideal and are also inexperienced on being in the limelight, where the media will pounce on anything where most of the media are anti-UKIP. The MSM are pro Con/Lib/Lab depending on the brand. The Daily Fail being a Conservative paper are running every smear story possible. Personally, I just ignore the stories and it just makes me more determined to vote UKIP.
IMO Lib and Lab, should never be put in charge of running a bath let alone a country, cast iron Dave is more slippery that an eel and less trustworthy than a snakeoil salesman, the greens are a bunch of lunatics, so that only leaves UKIP as the least worst party.
Cast Iron Dave yesterday was on about a referendum in 2017, just like the Lisbon treaty one he promised, which we are still waiting for; Fooled once, shame on you, fooled twice shame on me.
The more smear stories that are in the popular press, many started by the mainstream parties, the more determined I am to vote for UKIP and give the other parties a well deserved bloody nose.
UKIP are taking votes from both of the main parties in the north, where many would never vote Conservative, but are disillusioned with Labour, where they have abandoned their traditional blue collar supporters and are prepared to vote UKIP.
I expect all the main parties have already got teams working on their excuses for when the results are in. ;D ;D ;D
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Well there is that I suppose ::)
Was thinking that I might outlaw overnight on street parking of anything larger than a family car. Some roads look like caravan scrap yards. If the occupants feel hard done by, tough. They don't pay coucil tax, so why should the council reflect their interests. Could send the traffic wardens out to collect pitch fees at £30 per camper, per night.
And going back to bins... charge people a quid per kilo for general waste, but pay them 1p per kilo for recycling. Then sell the recycling material at 5p per kilo to the chinese.
If I keep saving Sodom and Gomorrahs council that much cash, we'll have West Pier rebuilt by August... another populist policy 8)
You're on a roll now, son ;D
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Some of their candidates are not ideal and are also inexperienced on being in the limelight, where the media will pounce on anything where most of the media are anti-UKIP. The MSM are pro Con/Lib/Lab depending on the brand. The Daily Fail being a Conservative paper are running every smear story possible. Personally, I just ignore the stories and it just makes me more determined to vote UKIP.
IMO Lib and Lab, should never be put in charge of running a bath let alone a country, cast iron Dave is more slippery that an eel and less trustworthy than a snakeoil salesman, the greens are a bunch of lunatics, so that only leaves UKIP as the least worst party.
Cast Iron Dave yesterday was on about a referendum in 2017, just like the Lisbon treaty one he promised, which we are still waiting for; Fooled once, shame on you, fooled twice shame on me.
The more smear stories that are in the popular press, many started by the mainstream parties, the more determined I am to vote for UKIP and give the other parties a well deserved bloody nose.
UKIP are taking votes from both of the main parties in the north, where many would never vote Conservative, but are disillusioned with Labour, where they have abandoned their traditional blue collar supporters and are prepared to vote UKIP.
I expect all the main parties have already got teams working on their excuses for when the results are in. ;D ;D ;D
We need to give them a bloody nose in a general election, not just European.
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UKIP transport policy excerpt:
10.2 We believe that there needs to be a better balance of rights and responsibilities for pedal cyclists, with too much aggressive abuse of red lights, pedestrian crossings and a lack of basic safety and road courtesy.
10.6 UKIP would consult on the desirability of minimum third party liability insurance cover for cyclists - a simple annual flat rate registration ‘Cycledisc’, stuck to the bicycle frame, to cover damage to cars and others, which are currently unprotected. The Cycledisc should also carry clear identification details, which will help counter bicycle theft, and deter dangerous cyclist behaviour. We support provision of cycle parking at reasonable charges.
10.7 UKIP believes that basic cycle and safety training should be made mandatory, and be funded in schools or via local authorities. UKIP supports the campaign work of national cycling organisations.
10.9 Local authorities should be given additional powers to enforce a ‘cyclists dismount’ or ‘no cycling’ regulation where there are safety concerns – such as on busy roundabouts, junctions or bus lanes, or where the road would be too narrowed by cycle lanes and cause
unacceptable delays to traffic
Words fail me!
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Actually this sums it up:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CreCter7AS8 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CreCter7AS8)
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Why are "we" still expecting to see some sort of agreeable result out of these people? Like they give a flying one what anyone else thinks? Ukip are a bunch of snakes that have identified a route to power, same as all the other snakes across the board. Not hard, granted, but as with all politicians, they see an opportunity FOR THEMSELVES.
Why do "we" still think these people are worth the time of day?
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UKIP transport policy excerpt:
10.2 We believe that there needs to be a better balance of rights and responsibilities for pedal cyclists, with too much aggressive abuse of red lights, pedestrian crossings and a lack of basic safety and road courtesy.
10.6 UKIP would consult on the desirability of minimum third party liability insurance cover for cyclists - a simple annual flat rate registration ‘Cycledisc’, stuck to the bicycle frame, to cover damage to cars and others, which are currently unprotected. The Cycledisc should also carry clear identification details, which will help counter bicycle theft, and deter dangerous cyclist behaviour. We support provision of cycle parking at reasonable charges.
10.7 UKIP believes that basic cycle and safety training should be made mandatory, and be funded in schools or via local authorities. UKIP supports the campaign work of national cycling organisations.
10.9 Local authorities should be given additional powers to enforce a ‘cyclists dismount’ or ‘no cycling’ regulation where there are safety concerns – such as on busy roundabouts, junctions or bus lanes, or where the road would be too narrowed by cycle lanes and cause
unacceptable delays to traffic
Words fail me!
Yep, they can get rooted. :y
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The tory lab lib have missed the point , people are fed up with none of them listening .. food banks have tripled but they refuse to acknowledge there is a problem >:( Personal debt is increasing , folks cant afford to pay their bills but still no one listens . Bankers are still getting big bonuses and the rich still avoiding paying taxes ... wonder why folk are looking for change ::)
That is smack on :y
Lets be honest...UKIP will never form a government, Nigel Farage admits that. But as you suggest....the other main parties want the biggest kick up the jacksie that can be given. Despite UKIP having some plonkers in their midst, they will try to stop EU from dominating us.
Although you talk of their 'idiot' candidates, far be it idiots than expenses fiddlers, child molesters, and such that the other parties seem to consist of. (Not saying that UKIP may field a few)
The immoral amounts of money being poured into a dying regime is disgusting, while our national infrastructure cannot cope with housing, doctors, hospitals, railways, roads, etc, let alone mass immigration.
But, unfortunately, as has been intimated by some ....as soon as you open your mouth about immigration, you are classified rascist. This is absolutely not the case, which takes us in full circle to emd's post which states, (and I will shout)
THE MAIN PARTY'S WILL NOT LISTEN
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The tory lab lib have missed the point , people are fed up with none of them listening .. food banks have tripled but they refuse to acknowledge there is a problem >:( Personal debt is increasing , folks cant afford to pay their bills but still no one listens . Bankers are still getting big bonuses and the rich still avoiding paying taxes ... wonder why folk are looking for change ::)
That is smack on :y
Lets be honest...UKIP will never form a government, Nigel Farage admits that. But as you suggest....the other main parties want the biggest kick up the jacksie that can be given. Despite UKIP having some plonkers in their midst, they will try to stop EU from dominating us.
Although you talk of their 'idiot' candidates, far be it idiots than expenses fiddlers, child molesters, and such that the other parties seem to consist of. (Not saying that UKIP may field a few)
The immoral amounts of money being poured into a dying regime is disgusting, while our national infrastructure cannot cope with housing, doctors, hospitals, railways, roads, etc, let alone mass immigration.
But, unfortunately, as has been intimated by some ....as soon as you open your mouth about immigration, you are classified rascist. This is absolutely not the case, which takes us in full circle to emd's post which states, (and I will shout)
THE MAIN PARTY'S WILL NOT LISTEN
Quite agree.......... :( :(
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Why shouldn't cyclists obey the highway code and get insurance??? ???
Makes sense to me :y
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Why shouldn't cyclists obey the highway code and get insurance??? ???
Makes sense to me :y
How does a 7 year old get insurance? :-\
What makes the difference between someone only cycling off road in forests (so no highway rules) compared to a London commuter, also compared to a 5 year old girl riding down the Close she lives?
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Farage still won't put his money where his mouth is, and stand for Parliament.
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I agree with him not standing, far too risky and will take focus from the European elections. He has no relationship with Nottinghamshire better to put a local candidate and campaign like crazy.
I bet Camerloon is relieved. ;) ;D ;D
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Why shouldn't cyclists obey the highway code and get insurance??? ???
Makes sense to me :y
How does a 7 year old get insurance? :-\
What makes the difference between someone only cycling off road in forests (so no highway rules) compared to a London commuter, also compared to a 5 year old girl riding down the Close she lives?
The parents of said little girl are responsible for her actions so any liability insurance would be in their name until she is old enough :)
Going back many years, my lad who was about 7 years old at the time fell of his bike and the peddle took a nice 4 inch chunk out of the paint on a friends car door.
Nobody was happy about it but it was a accident so I repaired it myself out of my own pocket.
At the end of the day, people should be responsible for there actions but as it is at the moment, IF you catch them the only way you can get them to fork out for the damage is to take out a civil action though the court system to reclaim any moneys owed. or you could take them for a ride in the back of a van with a shovel, can of petrol and a bag of lime :-X
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.. but cycle parking at "reasonable rates"? ;D
The railings outside my favourite pub are quite reasonable already, thanks. :D
.. and dismounting at roundabouts and busy junctions?
Sorry - they are just pandering to the white van man / black cab driver "gor blimey! I pay my road tax. thinks he owns the effing road!" types, as with most of their policies.
He's right to concentrate in the european elections. If my tax money is going to be wasted sending people to Brussels then it might as well be someone who's going to administer a swift poke in the eye to the EU, but I think UKIP have got a lot to learn before they become palatable enough for domestic politics.
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Why shouldn't cyclists obey the highway code and get insurance??? ???
Makes sense to me :y
How does a 7 year old get insurance? :-\
What makes the difference between someone only cycling off road in forests (so no highway rules) compared to a London commuter, also compared to a 5 year old girl riding down the Close she lives?
Presumably when they do their cycling proficiency test they get a certificate... that could be used as a basis. Legally children are considered as below the age of responsibility, with the exception of serious crimes, so perhaps it is irrelevant before say 12/14...
A solution to insurance, or lack of generally, would be to incorporate a basic level of third party insurance in your driving licence. That way, if anyone has a licence, they would actually be insured. You would then be able to buy top up insurance to suit your needs.
If the licence was also an identity card, no reason why you couldn't add cycling proficiency/insurance to it as a minimum. This could be from 16 and replace the National Insurance card too...
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My understanding is that in Germany you have to have liability insurance for your children. This I think would make parent take a bit more interest what their children get up to in an evening, if they are risking losing their no claims bonus and a big hike in their premiums.
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My understanding is that in Germany you have to have liability insurance for your children. This I think would make parent take a bit more interest what their children get up to in an evening, if they are risking losing their no claims bonus and a big hike in their premiums.
Sadly, many of the parents of the most troublesome children here probably have no sense of financial responsibility or parental responsibility, so it wouldn't work. :-X
Besides, the fewer things in life that are subject to compulsory insurance, and hence compulsory interference and extortion from the insurance industry, the better, IMHO.
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Why shouldn't cyclists obey the highway code and get insurance??? ???
Makes sense to me :y
How does a 7 year old get insurance? :-\
What makes the difference between someone only cycling off road in forests (so no highway rules) compared to a London commuter, also compared to a 5 year old girl riding down the Close she lives?
Presumably when they do their cycling proficiency test they get a certificate... that could be used as a basis. Legally children are considered as below the age of responsibility, with the exception of serious crimes, so perhaps it is irrelevant before say 12/14...
A solution to insurance, or lack of generally, would be to incorporate a basic level of third party insurance in your driving licence. That way, if anyone has a licence, they would actually be insured. You would then be able to buy top up insurance to suit your needs.
If the licence was also an identity card, no reason why you couldn't add cycling proficiency/insurance to it as a minimum. This could be from 16 and replace the National Insurance card too...
Can't see that happening. It would be almost impossible to enforce, police have enough problems already. Look how many dont have car insurance. Those that complain about cyclists should actually try cycling. But they won't as I bet most are not physically able to, with passing out :-X
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The suggestion I made doesn't need extra enforcing ::)
Licence becomes ID card, which includes third party cover. Not driving or passing a test doesn't preclude you from having one. In fact if issued at 16, then you have to present a cycling proficiency certificate with the application, which must be submitted prior to 15years ten months. Then on your sixteenth birth day you receive your id card, complete with cycling licence. At 17 you add provisional driving to it and so on. Insurance could be paid as part of normal deductions, say £10 per week. This provides all legitimate road users third party insurance for ever. Anyone driving without a licence is automatically uninsured, but any third parties would be covered same as currently. If you want extra insurance cover, then you simply pay to top it up. Car tax gets added to fuel, say 10p per litre, that way everyone pays that, again no avoiding it.
Anyone found in the event of an accident not to have a valid ID card with appropriate entitlement, faces prosecution. Cards could be renewed every five years, and bans/convictions would require a new card to be issued. Simples :y
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The suggestion I made doesn't need extra enforcing ::)
Licence becomes ID card, which includes third party cover. Not driving or passing a test doesn't preclude you from having one. In fact if issued at 16, then you have to present a cycling proficiency certificate with the application, which must be submitted prior to 15years ten months. Then on your sixteenth birth day you receive your id card, complete with cycling licence. At 17 you add provisional driving to it and so on. Insurance could be paid as part of normal deductions, say £10 per week. This provides all legitimate road users third party insurance for ever. Anyone driving without a licence is automatically uninsured, but any third parties would be covered same as currently. If you want extra insurance cover, then you simply pay to top it up. Car tax gets added to fuel, say 10p per litre, that way everyone pays that, again no avoiding it.
Anyone found in the event of an accident not to have a valid ID card with appropriate entitlement, faces prosecution. Cards could be renewed every five years, and bans/convictions would require a new card to be issued. Simples :y
So something that improves your health, reduces obesity, reduces disease burden on the NHS etc has to obstructed by licences and red tape? Where do you stop? What about licences for pedestrians (who may run their key along the side your car)? Children on those little push things? Old people on zimmers? I mean they have wheels and could bump into a car or cause a scratch?
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The tory lab lib have missed the point , people are fed up with none of them listening .. food banks have tripled but they refuse to acknowledge there is a problem >:( Personal debt is increasing , folks cant afford to pay their bills but still no one listens . Bankers are still getting big bonuses and the rich still avoiding paying taxes ... wonder why folk are looking for change ::)
That is smack on :y
Lets be honest...UKIP will never form a government, Nigel Farage admits that. But as you suggest....the other main parties want the biggest kick up the jacksie that can be given. Despite UKIP having some plonkers in their midst, they will try to stop EU from dominating us.
Although you talk of their 'idiot' candidates, far be it idiots than expenses fiddlers, child molesters, and such that the other parties seem to consist of. (Not saying that UKIP may field a few)
The immoral amounts of money being poured into a dying regime is disgusting, while our national infrastructure cannot cope with housing, doctors, hospitals, railways, roads, etc, let alone mass immigration.
But, unfortunately, as has been intimated by some ....as soon as you open your mouth about immigration, you are classified rascist. This is absolutely not the case, which takes us in full circle to emd's post which states, (and I will shout)
THE MAIN PARTY'S WILL NOT LISTEN
There are about a 180 constituencies where the immigrant diaspora outnumber the local population. Which politician will risk upsetting a fifth of the voting constituencies?
Certainly not one that is contesting an election.
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The suggestion I made doesn't need extra enforcing ::)
Licence becomes ID card, which includes third party cover. Not driving or passing a test doesn't preclude you from having one. In fact if issued at 16, then you have to present a cycling proficiency certificate with the application, which must be submitted prior to 15years ten months. Then on your sixteenth birth day you receive your id card, complete with cycling licence. At 17 you add provisional driving to it and so on. Insurance could be paid as part of normal deductions, say £10 per week. This provides all legitimate road users third party insurance for ever. Anyone driving without a licence is automatically uninsured, but any third parties would be covered same as currently. If you want extra insurance cover, then you simply pay to top it up. Car tax gets added to fuel, say 10p per litre, that way everyone pays that, again no avoiding it.
Anyone found in the event of an accident not to have a valid ID card with appropriate entitlement, faces prosecution. Cards could be renewed every five years, and bans/convictions would require a new card to be issued. Simples :y
So something that improves your health, reduces obesity, reduces disease burden on the NHS etc has to obstructed by licences and red tape? Where do you stop? What about licences for pedestrians (who may run their key along the side your car)? Children on those little push things? Old people on zimmers? I mean they have wheels and could bump into a car or cause a scratch?
Not extra red tape, rather a reordering of existing... central single point of insurance/id/driving licence/passport... no car tax. :y
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The suggestion I made doesn't need extra enforcing ::)
Licence becomes ID card, which includes third party cover. Not driving or passing a test doesn't preclude you from having one. In fact if issued at 16, then you have to present a cycling proficiency certificate with the application, which must be submitted prior to 15years ten months. Then on your sixteenth birth day you receive your id card, complete with cycling licence. At 17 you add provisional driving to it and so on. Insurance could be paid as part of normal deductions, say £10 per week. This provides all legitimate road users third party insurance for ever. Anyone driving without a licence is automatically uninsured, but any third parties would be covered same as currently. If you want extra insurance cover, then you simply pay to top it up. Car tax gets added to fuel, say 10p per litre, that way everyone pays that, again no avoiding it.
Anyone found in the event of an accident not to have a valid ID card with appropriate entitlement, faces prosecution. Cards could be renewed every five years, and bans/convictions would require a new card to be issued. Simples :y
Membership applications for Taxi Al's New Communist Party should be sent to PO Box 666, Sussex and don't forget Comrades to include a 600 Ruble Postal Order! :y
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The suggestion I made doesn't need extra enforcing ::)
Licence becomes ID card, which includes third party cover. Not driving or passing a test doesn't preclude you from having one. In fact if issued at 16, then you have to present a cycling proficiency certificate with the application, which must be submitted prior to 15years ten months. Then on your sixteenth birth day you receive your id card, complete with cycling licence. At 17 you add provisional driving to it and so on. Insurance could be paid as part of normal deductions, say £10 per week. This provides all legitimate road users third party insurance for ever. Anyone driving without a licence is automatically uninsured, but any third parties would be covered same as currently. If you want extra insurance cover, then you simply pay to top it up. Car tax gets added to fuel, say 10p per litre, that way everyone pays that, again no avoiding it.
Anyone found in the event of an accident not to have a valid ID card with appropriate entitlement, faces prosecution. Cards could be renewed every five years, and bans/convictions would require a new card to be issued. Simples :y
So something that improves your health, reduces obesity, reduces disease burden on the NHS etc has to obstructed by licences and red tape? Where do you stop? What about licences for pedestrians (who may run their key along the side your car)? Children on those little push things? Old people on zimmers? I mean they have wheels and could bump into a car or cause a scratch?
Not extra red tape, rather a reordering of existing... central single point of insurance/id/driving licence/passport... no car tax. :y
And how many centuries would that take to sort out?
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Twas but a suggestion ::) based on this system...
http://www.icbc.com/ :y
Be sorted before the NHS ::)
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So something that improves your health, reduces obesity, reduces disease burden on the NHS etc has to obstructed by licences and red tape? Where do you stop? What about licences for pedestrians (who may run their key along the side your car)? Children on those little push things? Old people on zimmers? I mean they have wheels and could bump into a car or cause a scratch?
Something the like of which every recent government has been desperate to promote. :y Even if it was a great idea, I can't see it ever gaining any political traction.
It will turn every cyclist against them (a growing sector since Wiggins fever got all the mamils out on the street), 1% - the aforementioned "they don't pay road tax" band will be all for it and the other 99% of the populace won't be bothered or maybe won't even read that far into the manifesto. ::)
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Twas but a suggestion ::) based on this system...
Joking apart, a similar system operated in Western Australia in the 1990's when I was there, where your 'Rego' or what we'd call the car tax included basic 3rd party insurance. It was very reasonable too! :y
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Twas but a suggestion ::) based on this system...
http://www.icbc.com/ :y
Be sorted before the NHS ::)
The NHS won't be sorted. The political parties want it to fail. The recent reorganisation, fragmentation and decentralisation of budget all point in that direction. Then they will have a reason to privatise it. Which then means the second largest expense for the treasury has just disappeared. But if you expect the politicians to openly agree to this, then that is not going to happen.
I have said this before. If you want to have an idea of what is happening to the NHS currently; watch this link. The speakers views are quite neutral in wanting to simply protect her healthcare options.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OkTnCtg_Omk (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OkTnCtg_Omk)
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Bit of an aside but the thread heading applies.
http://s83.photobucket.com/user/hotel21/media/Mobile%20Uploads/image_zps7a276cd8.jpg.html?filters%5Buser%5D=16004062&filters%5Brecent%5D=1&sort=1&o=0
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That's a bit unfair, as I could name a few in the 'main party's' who have a checkered past.
Funny how that does not see the light of day....Peter Hain, Jack Straw, are two that quickly flipped to the brain :y
And...I recall plenty of slag thrown at our Boris....errrrrr is he UKIP. I seem to remember him being Tory ;)
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I will vote for the Punk :y great pictures, better he than Libdem kiddie fiddlers amd excusers or Labour sympathizers for PIE.
Funny how those stories are still being ignored by the BBC >:( >:(
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Bit of an aside but the thread heading applies.
http://s83.photobucket.com/user/hotel21/media/Mobile%20Uploads/image_zps7a276cd8.jpg.html?filters%5Buser%5D=16004062&filters%5Brecent%5D=1&sort=1&o=0
Has that not been proven to be a photoshop, already??