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Title: Took my daewoo up Sutton Bank on Monday
Post by: Stemo on 07 May 2014, 10:56:12
Those GM 1.8 units have got no bottom end torque at all. It's a 25% gradient and my old, 1.6, Zafira would go up most of it quite happily in 3rd, but not the orlando. Rev the nuts out of it in 2nd, change up and..........nothing. ;D Down to second and stay in second.
Title: Re: Took my daewoo up Sutton Bank on Monday
Post by: Gaffers on 07 May 2014, 10:59:37
Either that or the Pedal/seat/steering wheel interface has increased in mass ::)
Title: Re: Took my daewoo up Sutton Bank on Monday
Post by: Stemo on 07 May 2014, 11:04:29
Either that or the Pedal/seat/steering wheel interface has increased in mass ::)
Listen, fatty, I'm 12.5 stone and have been since I was a yoof. ;D

The passenger seat occupant may have increased slightly in mass, I suppose. ::)
Title: Re: Took my daewoo up Sutton Bank on Monday
Post by: tigers_gonads on 07 May 2014, 11:20:34
Either that or the Pedal/seat/steering wheel interface has increased in mass ::)
Listen, fatty, I'm 12.5 stone and have been since I was a yoof. ;D

The passenger seat occupant may have increased slightly in mass, I suppose. ::)



What  :o

Each buttock  ;D ;D
Title: Re: Took my daewoo up Sutton Bank on Monday
Post by: Sir Tigger KC on 07 May 2014, 11:23:42
No each teste!  ;D
Title: Re: Took my daewoo up Sutton Bank on Monday
Post by: Stemo on 07 May 2014, 11:28:16
No each teste!  ;D
Flatterer  :-*
Title: Re: Took my daewoo up Sutton Bank on Monday
Post by: Rog on 07 May 2014, 11:30:57
Took Pushed my daewoo up Sutton Bank on Monday

Corrected for you  ;)
Title: Re: Took my daewoo up Sutton Bank on Monday
Post by: Gaffers on 07 May 2014, 11:40:17
No each teste!  ;D

More like each chin!
Title: Re: Took my daewoo up Sutton Bank on Monday
Post by: tunnie on 07 May 2014, 11:44:19
Orlando is a bit on the porky side too, compared to Zafira?
Title: Re: Took my daewoo up Sutton Bank on Monday
Post by: Marks DTM Calib on 07 May 2014, 12:50:24
Given the two engines are basicaly the same (with the 1.8 being a higher cc version but same block, head design etc, VVT, yada yada yada) it should be the same or better.....unless they screwed the gearing up and got the gap between second and third a bit long
Title: Re: Took my daewoo up Sutton Bank on Monday
Post by: Field Marshal Dr. Opti on 07 May 2014, 13:08:50
Those GM 1.8 units have got no bottom end torque at all. It's a 25% gradient and my old, 1.6, Zafira would go up most of it quite happily in 3rd, but not the orlando. Rev the nuts out of it in 2nd, change up and..........nothing. ;D Down to second and stay in second.

That's a 1 in 4 hill, the same as Porlock hill.......which means it's fooking steep. :y

It's little wonder that your 'arthritic' Daewoo had trouble. :)

My MV6 would have romped up . :y
Title: Re: Took my daewoo up Sutton Bank on Monday
Post by: scimmy_man on 07 May 2014, 13:14:01
I often see cars stuck on it,
the best one was 4 LARGE ladies pushing a micra up one was steering through the window, ;D
Title: Re: Took my daewoo up Sutton Bank on Monday
Post by: Stemo on 07 May 2014, 13:20:04
Given the two engines are basicaly the same (with the 1.8 being a higher cc version but same block, head design etc, VVT, yada yada yada) it should be the same or better.....unless they screwed the gearing up and got the gap between second and third a bit long
I'm not sure about the gear ratios but, as Tunnie says, the orlando 'feels' heavier. On the motorway, in 5th, it takes a while to get from 60 to 80.
Title: Re: Took my daewoo up Sutton Bank on Monday
Post by: Stemo on 07 May 2014, 13:22:41
Those GM 1.8 units have got no bottom end torque at all. It's a 25% gradient and my old, 1.6, Zafira would go up most of it quite happily in 3rd, but not the orlando. Rev the nuts out of it in 2nd, change up and..........nothing. ;D Down to second and stay in second.

That's a 1 in 4 hill, the same as Porlock hill.......which means it's fooking steep. :y

It's little wonder that your 'arthritic' Daewoo had trouble. :)

My MV6 would have romped up . :y
What? All the way up? Without breaking down? Don't think so.  ;D
Title: Re: Took my daewoo up Sutton Bank on Monday
Post by: Varche on 07 May 2014, 13:29:52
Next time you are up there take your car up Rosedale Chimney. That is even steeper. I watched a bay Austin rally once there. They all made it!.
Title: Re: Took my daewoo up Sutton Bank on Monday
Post by: tunnie on 07 May 2014, 13:37:56
I often see cars stuck on it,
the best one was 4 LARGE ladies pushing a micra up one was steering through the window, ;D


 ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Took my daewoo up Sutton Bank on Monday
Post by: Field Marshal Dr. Opti on 07 May 2014, 13:47:02
I believe that Hardnott Pass in the Lake district has the steepest incline in the UK. :y

I in 3  in places, with plenty of bends.
Title: Re: Took my daewoo up Sutton Bank on Monday
Post by: Stemo on 07 May 2014, 15:59:41
Just had a look online and, as far as I can tell, the orlando is about 100 Kilos heavier than a Zafira.
Plus, we were three up and a dog and various bits in the back. Don't know if the published figures include a spare wheel and carrier, which are not standard, but I have fitted.
Title: Re: Took my daewoo up Sutton Bank on Monday
Post by: Field Marshal Dr. Opti on 07 May 2014, 16:34:20
Just had a look online and, as far as I can tell, the orlando is about 100 Kilos heavier than a Zafira.
Plus, we were three up and a dog and various bits in the back.
Don't know if the published figures include a spare wheel and carrier, which are not standard, but I have fitted.

That shouldn't make a significant difference, especially as you have another 200 cc to play with. As already said, the Orlando may have overly long gearing to help with economy (but not steep hills)

Are you sure that it's not running on three cylinders?....... ::) ::) ::) ::) :)

Title: Re: Took my daewoo up Sutton Bank on Monday
Post by: tunnie on 07 May 2014, 17:08:14
Just had a look online and, as far as I can tell, the orlando is about 100 Kilos heavier than a Zafira.
Plus, we were three up and a dog and various bits in the back. Don't know if the published figures include a spare wheel and carrier, which are not standard, but I have fitted.

It's surprising how much difference just 100kg's can make, my 2.2 is fine with just me in it, couple of passengers though and it's another story  :(
Title: Re: Took my daewoo up Sutton Bank on Monday
Post by: Field Marshal Dr. Opti on 07 May 2014, 17:31:06
Just had a look online and, as far as I can tell, the orlando is about 100 Kilos heavier than a Zafira.
Plus, we were three up and a dog and various bits in the back. Don't know if the published figures include a spare wheel and carrier, which are not standard, but I have fitted.

It's surprising how much difference just 100kg's can make, my 2.2 is fine with just me in it, couple of passengers though and it's another story  :(
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Glacial progress. ::) ::) :)
Title: Re: Took my daewoo up Sutton Bank on Monday
Post by: Varche on 07 May 2014, 18:04:12
I believe that Hardnott Pass in the Lake district has the steepest incline in the UK. :y

I in 3  in places, with plenty of bends.


Both hold the claim to steepest hill at 1 in 3. What I like about Rosedale Chimney bank is it is just straight up. Not a lot of bends. Also it is less well known. I remember a motorist abandoning her car screaming as she ran off whilst attempting Hardnotts. I can see that road being one way one day.
Title: Re: Took my daewoo up Sutton Bank on Monday
Post by: YZ250 on 08 May 2014, 15:49:38
I believe that Hardnott Pass in the Lake district has the steepest incline in the UK. :y

I in 3  in places, with plenty of bends.

Both hold the claim to steepest hill at 1 in 3. What I like about Rosedale Chimney bank is it is just straight up. Not a lot of bends. Also it is less well known. I remember a motorist abandoning her car screaming as she ran off whilst attempting Hardnotts. I can see that road being one way one day.

When we go up Hardnott Pass, my wife loves it when a car comes the other way and you are right on the edge.......... not. I always make sure she is on the drop side so that she can admire the view. Isn't that thoughtful of me.  ;D ;D
Title: Re: Took my daewoo up Sutton Bank on Monday
Post by: Kevin Wood on 08 May 2014, 17:08:30
I believe that Hardnott Pass in the Lake district has the steepest incline in the UK. :y

I in 3  in places, with plenty of bends.


Both hold the claim to steepest hill at 1 in 3. What I like about Rosedale Chimney bank is it is just straight up. Not a lot of bends. Also it is less well known. I remember a motorist abandoning her car screaming as she ran off whilst attempting Hardnotts. I can see that road being one way one day.

I do hope so. It's only the prospect of meeting another nutter coming the other way that holds me back. 8)
Title: Re: Took my daewoo up Sutton Bank on Monday
Post by: Taxi_Driver on 08 May 2014, 17:46:12
Given the two engines are basicaly the same (with the 1.8 being a higher cc version but same block, head design etc, VVT, yada yada yada) it should be the same or better.....unless they screwed the gearing up and got the gap between second and third a bit long

That'll be the answer.....almost!

My guess is, the silly old duffer Steve was changing from 2nd to 5th in a 'senior' moment  ::) ;D ;D
Title: Re: Took my daewoo up Sutton Bank on Monday
Post by: Stemo on 08 May 2014, 17:48:02
Given the two engines are basicaly the same (with the 1.8 being a higher cc version but same block, head design etc, VVT, yada yada yada) it should be the same or better.....unless they screwed the gearing up and got the gap between second and third a bit long

That'll be the answer.....almost!

My guess is, the silly old duffer Steve was changing from 2nd to 5th in a 'senior' moment  ::) ;D ;D
My car has five gears?  :o
Title: Re: Took my daewoo up Sutton Bank on Monday
Post by: Vamps on 08 May 2014, 22:54:07
Given the two engines are basicaly the same (with the 1.8 being a higher cc version but same block, head design etc, VVT, yada yada yada) it should be the same or better.....unless they screwed the gearing up and got the gap between second and third a bit long

That'll be the answer.....almost!

My guess is, the silly old duffer Steve was changing from 2nd to 5th in a 'senior' moment  ::) ;D ;D
My car has five gears?  :o

So does mine, and it changes itself, unless I want to exercise my finger......... :D :D :D
Title: Re: Took my daewoo up Sutton Bank on Monday
Post by: 05omegav6 on 08 May 2014, 23:07:14
Likewise ;D
Title: Re: Took my daewoo up Sutton Bank on Monday
Post by: Vamps on 08 May 2014, 23:37:28
Likewise ;D

 :y :y
Title: Re: Took my daewoo up Sutton Bank on Monday
Post by: Rods2 on 09 May 2014, 20:37:30
A picture of STEMO's helpers getting the Daewoo Wheezebus to the top of the hill. ;D ;D ;D ;D

(http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2014/05/09/article-2624164-1DADC9E100000578-761_964x681.jpg)
Title: Re: Took my daewoo up Sutton Bank on Monday
Post by: Taxi_Driver on 10 May 2014, 18:31:03
Likewise ;D

Mines got 6 .....but then i have the driver involvement pack fitted   :y  ::)